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8161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much time you have spent gambling? on: October 08, 2016, 08:46:28 AM
i used to gamble for longer periods of time back when i have started it and i was only gambling dice and that ways because in dice you can easily start the autobet with martingale strategy and then go do other stuff while the system makes the bets for you.

This is  normal when you are playing automated bets  and we cant really count it off hence we are doing other things while  we are  playing   dice on auto mode. FOr me  im doing the same thing  sometimes if  i got bored i do usually play dice or bustabit   to relieve  stress out but i do it sometimes.
8162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What I love about Bitcoin on: October 08, 2016, 08:43:43 AM
I agree with the most part of OP topic. I think that Bitcoin is indeed stable and having really promising potential , and it is as well safe to use. But unluckily we still need to use banks right now and mostly we still need to convert out btc to fiat for the most billing purposes
you are right bitcoins is really stable right now in my opinion and i really like that to be honest
For me i like the way that more people can earn lot of money without more requirement like a real job, stable price is not good for the traders like me we love the fluctuation of the price because we can get more profit on that.

You are right, bitcoin does give us  a  chance  to earn  money especially to those people  who dont have a  job  and as  a trade moving  prices of bitcoin would be a very good thing to make profits  in every  move even though there are times  we suffer losses but  we could  surely  back it up.
8163  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many Millions of People Use Bitcoin? on: October 08, 2016, 08:42:02 AM
it's quite impossible to figure out the exact number of people using bitcoin because 1 guy usage many wallet and also 1 wallet have 100s of address so there is no scope of finding the real number of people using bitcoin. what we can do is we can take a survey and ask each person whether they use bitcoin. although this is not going to happen in reality because it would cost huge amount and there no use of doing this. bit still we can guess that bar about 2 million people usage bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

A good place to start would be the exchanges and the online wallet sites.  I tried this once for just one site and it is near impossible.  You can only give the estimate and no exact value.

It would be very  impossible to calculate on how many  bitcoin users as of today. Even  if you do surveys  it would   need time and  money and  still be useless and  even  you  start  into exchanges  and  online wallet, its still useless. and  how  you gonna  count those  people do  have desktop wallets and  hard drive and  paper wallet? Its too impossible  to count off.
8164  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: October 08, 2016, 08:38:59 AM
I would prefer to invest my bitcoin into good ICOs and hold them for a significant period of time and the consider to sell them for bitcoin once they give me good returns. I will try to convert bitcoin to fiat only if I badly need cash. Otherwise it's a long term investment for me. No price limit given

I think you should sell them when its allowing you to make profits instead of holding too long as you never know whether price will be higher or lower in future and if price falls then you can buy them again.

This is  what  i am  doing regarding  to other altcoins which  i sold them  to a certain pricepoint when i saw that  im already profitable with it and as you said we could  buy again if the   price would  down and   wait again for the  pump  to make  profits. Just repeat  the cycle and you could make  money with it.

@topic  i would sell all my bitcoin when it reaches $100k per btc. lol
8165  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: October 07, 2016, 01:59:21 PM
That is possible if you are rich to have a big capital to start with in trading, but if you are going to start to trade in small amount it will take a long time to achieve it. also trading is risky so there is no definite time to say how or when you can have 1000 btc.
1000 btc seems  impossible even if you do trading with  big amounts or bankroll. Its quite  achievable  when you  have  good investments  you could possibly  earn or reach it but in trading  it maybe possible   but it would  took long  time for sure same as others said.
8166  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: October 07, 2016, 01:56:49 PM
When trading What Matters More Skills or Luck?
According To Me Skills Are More Role In Trading As Compare to Luck Because You Can't Do Trading With Only Luck, Its Important that You Have Skills Of Trading Without The Skills Of Trading You Can't Trade Anything Because Trading is a Mindset Game.....

Both would be  needed  for me when  we do trading  because   even if you have   skills but  luck isnt their  and the  price would   go to opposite way then for sure you would  experience lose trades.  Experience and knowledge  are needed  but luck  would still need  to  in able  to be  succesful on trading career.
8167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: October 07, 2016, 01:52:18 PM
I like gambling in real life much more. Only good thing about online gambling is that you can gambling while in home, but it is much better to gamble in real casino
well thats the real fun if you are playing just to filled up your excitement playing at the real casino adds actual joy for you, but if you are in a process of hiding your dark side online bet using btc would be the good choice though.

yeah i agree that real gambling like playing in a casino is really fun.  The reason is that there is social aspect in there which our system look for, more people to share the entertainment more enjoyable it is.  While this thing is  missing in online gambling though with bitcoin, it meets your need to be anonymous while playing casino games.

yes, I agree in real gambling we will get more fun and entertainment. But in real gambling, we need more investment. Otherwise, it's not possible to enjoy all games. In online gambling, if you have little capital also no problem you can able to play all games with a low bet. So I like online gambling.

Well i think the capital you'll need is not that different for both online and actual gambling. And you can also enjoy gambling in the company of friends online. It's that when you go to an actual casino there's this some kind of a festive ambiance and you can socialize with people face to face and it's a good experience.

In terms of  betting  and  ways  of  gambling  and  kinds of games , online and  offline  are still the same as you said  the  quite difference  between two which you could able to face to face  personally with co-gamblers  when you play offline which is somehow  gives good  mood to  us regarding  on  our social aspects.
8168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: October 07, 2016, 01:48:54 PM
I can call myself lucky because I made profit many times in dice in particular games or sessions whatever we call them. I am not talking as whole statistics. I say dice is game of luck and isn't designed to make profit from it. It is more like an alternative of having fun. Most people win but don't succeed to reach to take withdraw as they keep playing until bust all.

Actually dice game is easy and also it is easy to win. In dice i can say that luck is with us.
I know most of the time luck cooperate with us in gambling, but our greedy is not with us and before using our amount of winning we lose it. That's why we can say that our loses is increasing from our winning amount.

True, easiest  gambling of  all is  playing dice game for me. And   dice  games do rely  fully on  luck and doesnt require any skills and  experience. You are  right greediness  is the most common thing thats  why we suffer huge losses  on the end  because  we  are intending   to play even more  and  aiming always or profits.
8169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: we should talk something useful,here on: October 07, 2016, 01:45:23 PM
what I want to talk is how to make the gamble fair enough.

as far as I know there a lots of dice site , and they can be proveble fair.

and any other examples of new type of games ( gambles)?

All dice sites would claim that they  using  provably fair system and  all other gambling games. What are you  really trying to ask?  As you said  you already  knew  other  examples  types of  games . Quite confused  in here , im really trying to understand your  queries Cheesy
8170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Did I do wrong or right ? on: October 07, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
i think it is up to you, if it was really needed for you and you think that you have taken a right decision then ok no problem but you should invest the amount in some profitable activity and not to waste it.

Its not actually a waste when you  bought  something which is  beneficial to you and there nothing to  regret because  bitcoins price  is moving and   its normal when 1 day  it would  change  since  yesterdays price. Having  investments  would be   very good  because  you could  able to make profits with  your  investments.
8171  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price will be fail to bottom line ? on: October 07, 2016, 01:33:24 PM
growing pain is part of growing, so in future bitcoin price will be fail to super bottom price then rise again ?
what do you think about it ?
If Bitcoin would fail to the bottom then it is over with Bitcoin and I would accept that fact but I do not think that it is going to happen anytime soon now.
I have seen no signs of Bitcoin going to fail so I am not going to believe it.

Everything has its own ending  and bitcoin could possibly drop its rice to the  bottom line and that event would surely come but  we  dont know when it would happen. Same as yours i dont think  that bitcoin would  fail to the  bottom  anytime soon.  As long bitcoin is been used  it would  hard  for it to fail.
8172  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: October 07, 2016, 01:30:43 PM
It means i think that you will never die.Lol, as i dont believe bitcoin is ever gonna reach that price in any point of time in future.Its way too much expecting out of it and it dont see it happen realistically.I can only happen in dreams.

Well op is going to be immortal at all so this is a condition and contract he made to someone that is going to give him life long.

But this is really no direction to think about it, even though we are hoping that for this to happen in the future that 1 bitcoin will be equivalent to $50,000

This is a dream come true to us if this happens, but this is the end for op.  Cheesy

lol, for sure  he's immortal on that time because  its  impossible for bitcoin to  rise  its price like that seems to unrealistic  to expect this event. As you said  it would be  a dream come  true but still  its better a  prediction or speculation compared to other threads which claim if bitcoin would  increase to $1m/btc.lol
8173  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: October 07, 2016, 01:27:00 PM
Well definitely it's worth it. The fact that we're all still here means we are in many ways reaping bitcoin benefits. Simply posting makes me earn a couple of btcs what more once i've mastered trading. Also there are a lot of ways you can earn like write ups and blogging so bitcoin is very much worth it.
Signature campaign cannot give you a good future in bitcoin world if you will just rely it solely, you should also learn how to grow your earnings and you can do that by investing and even trading if you are good on it. Be resourceful as for sure you will find the best method that will fit for you.

Everyone should actually know that signature campaigns are not a full source of income for anyone as the payments from them are limited, but as it is free bitcoins then it is really worth earning, because bitcoin is worth a lot to us so if we can earn some of it by just posting then why should we leave the chance?
But signature campaigns are giving some opportunity to have bitcoins, so that we will find the real worth of bitcoin. Without using how people will start value bitcoin. That is the reason we are having signature campaigns and other similar kind of earning opportunities. Once, people start using bitcoin they will find out the real worth of bitcoin for sure.
We do know signatures wont stay forever, but as long the manager and owner getting good results the signature will keep, and looks like in the general the results are enought to keep the signatures running for a big period. Bitcoin earnings and investments are allowing me to manage my financial that is currently a mess, soo with the earnings i collect from projects and the signature im taking control over finances again.
The thing is when one signature campaign stop there are new that will come in, the real reason why signature campaign are increasing in numbers is because the economy of bitcoin is very progressive and more people are coming in, they need our help to help them advertise their business.

Agree, if theres a signature campaign would end  there would  surely replace a new  one  because they can see this  forum  have good traffic and   best  way to promote your  business or  sites which you could get  many  potential  customers or player.  They would  surely put  funds  regarding on marketing  their  sites/invesments.
As long as you are a very hard working person you will not lose any job here, there are many ways to earn online and part of that is signature campaign. Although the reward is not that big but if you are good in savings you can accumulate a good amount and you can use that to start trading.

Correct there are really lots of things  and  jobs here in this  forum which  you could  potentially make  or earn bitcoin  in any way, as you said  signature campaigns  is one  of them and you are right even though it gives somehow  small amount  but  its better to save   up those earning for future investments. Thats  why we are here because  bitcoin is worthy  for us.
8174  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: October 07, 2016, 01:23:29 PM
Gold is used from the people as gifts, church requires a ring of gold, i dont know why such thing keeps happening over the years, anyway if bitcoin were material we would see it being send as gift as well, but the fact its digital doesnt matter it can be donated with wallet and password. Besides the gifts i dont see any interest into gold, for other side bitcoin is something that make me addicted since i learned a bit about it.
That's why it's precious and people love to use this as gift to show their love an appreciation to a certain person, while on the other hand there are those investors and business minded who understands this, the demand is great so that means when you invest you have a great chance to make profit.

Gold investment is  trully a good  investments  especially on long terms because  you could able to gain profit  with it but not all people could  able to  make  investments with it  because  its  quite expensive compared to bitcoin and we cant really compare a precious metal to a digital currency.
8175  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has anyone ever lost bitcoins before? on: October 07, 2016, 01:20:31 PM
Yes here's a victim of scammers. In greedy I had invested bitcoin in hashocean and v they ran away after 1 and half month. I think i had invested in late april and they had probably run way in mid June. I think they were fearing of bitcoin halving unfortunately nothing changes happened in bitcoin rate even after halving. But why they ran away with my money.

They ran away with people's money because their target of scamming people was achieved and that was their main intention and most of the people have lost their money in those scams.

As expected   on cloudmining  sites  which are totally ponzi would definitely  goes scam in the long run. As he  said  their intention is to collect sufficient amount of bitcoin from their  investors and when they achieve the decent amount  then they would  run away for sure. Sad to say im included to those  people  being scammed by hashocean before
8176  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: October 07, 2016, 01:16:50 PM
I don't spend my bitcoin on real life because for one there are no stores here in real life that accept them or a very few which I didn't see yet.
And two my goal is saving as much bitcoin as I can so spending them wouldn't be a good way to do so.

Spending may not be good for you but its really important  for the better future of bitcoin as if no one will spend them then its price will never go higher in future.

True, holding bitcoin  for long  terms  would  not  be a good idea and  would  give negative impact to bitcoin because   it would  not help the  bitcoin ecosystem for it to grow further more on  the  future. Its  okay to save and  hold  some coins  but  its better  to get some  partition of  it to be spend.
8177  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you doing with Bitcoin? on: October 07, 2016, 01:15:29 PM
I am doing nothing with them only earning and holding them for future as I believe that price will be much higher in future and if I sell them at that time then it will bring good profits for me.

I hope I can do that too. I am saving just for the week then withdraw it for bills payment and things that needed to be bought. I got a day job but it is not enough for the month.
Good luck saving.

How i wish too that i could able to save up  all  my bitcoin earnings  but sadly same as yours  i need to  cash out them  and exchange them to fiat for my daily needs and expenses ,i do also have a job  but   the salary is not enough  thats why i actively spend all my bitcoins  which is  somehow  a very  big help for me.
8178  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: October 07, 2016, 01:05:57 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
In My Opinion Its Better to Save Money First and Then Invest it in Various Projects To Make Some Profit From the Money You Have Saved.....
And According To me If We Only Save Money We Can't Grow But If We Invest Money So We Can Grow And Also Our Money Grow....
I think both saving and investing can be done together.Its not neccessary that we can only do one thing at a time either saving or investement.
We should plan our earnings in such a way that some portion of it goes for savings and some portion should be used for expenses and investements.
It can be done of course but if you are just starting to do it you need to have a savings first, it is good if you will not borrow to money for your investment and we should follow and procedural way to achieve our goal, in such way we can learn alone the way and we can train ourselves.

Having savings would be the good thing hence you could do  future  investments with it and you are right  it not good to borrow money to someone  for your  investment  which is  actually a dumb thing to do but there are people  who do these  kind  of  ways just to be profitable and they dont mind to pay for interest. If you want  profits  then  we should invest  our money.
8179  Other / Off-topic / Re: Save you Bitcoin for your (grand) child / children? on: October 07, 2016, 01:03:28 PM
Saving for a very long time for another person might be risky cause if that person isn't even born yet and you still have to wait 18 years after they are born then bitcoin might be already dead.
Unless you manage it for them ofcourse then it's a good option to do cause you could sell if needed.

It would be  risky  since we dont  know  what would be  the track or development of  bitcoin  in running  years  to come and you were right  if bitcoin would be dead that  time  then  you r hard earned and saved  bitcoin would  be  useless and  cant be used by your future  grandsons and children.
8180  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2016, The Year of Bitcoin? on: October 07, 2016, 01:00:31 PM
2016 was calm after the Halving hype, and then Bitfinex happened. Defenitely not the year of bitcoin. But maybe we will see something big happen at the start of next year or late this year.
But this 2016 was given us big profit since the start of 2016 the price is below $400 and now gives us additional 40% increase of the price we can say that bitcoin is great this year and we are hoping that next year would be more income coming to us.

For you it might be 40% but there are a lot people that managed to more than double their money within a year due to the peak that we have experienced back in June of this year. This year has been fantastic for those that managed to make a good profit. Perhaps that when SW gets activated, and more clear information about the roll out of LN, that the price will take another jump in 2017. Patience is what we need.
Well, in overall we have already an increase of a 100% for this year alone, so you were able to buy the cheapest price this year for sure you have already doubled your money easily, so with that progress, it is just fair and right to call 2016 the year of bitcoin.

Nothing comes easily in Bitcoin. But for me it definitely was a fantastic year, so yes, in that aspect it was indeed my "The Year Of Bitcoin".

Its still quite a  good year  to bitcoin  because  this year  has the even of halving  which  the price of bitcoin somewhat  increase from $400+ mark to $600 which is  good   to see  on this  year  so we  could somehow assume that 2017 would be also a good year  but still it wont guarantee us because we dont know the future.
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