Update! Removed CoinAd from the rotator as it is no longer a faucet but a paid-to-click program. |
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Latest update from me. Still no contact but one of the rigs appears to be back up now. Based on the charts it was down for 14 hours this time.
Edit: also want to point out that according to the logs he was on the forums last night and today...
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Thanks, weisoq! I think I can visualize this. So, is your place in line determined alphabetically? If that's the case, maybe I'd have done better by choosing Aardvark for a username LOL.
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No. The lines are cut at a place which changes each round, furthermore at each even round number they are also reversed. From the getCutLines function in account.py: https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/account.pydef getCutLines(cutLines, suffixNumber):
"""
The lines are cut at a different part of the list, so that a developer whose key starts with 1A does not get more on average over multiple rounds than a developer whose key starts with 1Z. This is done by cutting the list at an index which is the golden ratio times the round number, then modulo is used to keep it within the list bounds. It also reverses the list at every even round number, in case cutting is not enough to average pay over multiple rounds.
"""
rotation = (float(suffixNumber) * globalGoldenRatio) % 1.0
rotationIndex = int(math.floor(rotation * float(len(cutLines))))
if suffixNumber % 2 == 0:
cutLines.reverse()
cutLines = cutLines[rotationIndex :] + cutLines[: rotationIndex]
return cutLines
Ahh, just to clarify, was my statement on each line representing a single block correct, being that, for example, if your address is 5th in line you would be getting paid on the 5th block? |
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Payment is made as blocks are generated, so that means that if, for example there were 10 payees on the receiver list for round 24 with an equal number of shares...on block 96,000 45,000dvc are paid out to payee 1 (50,000 x 0.9 because 10% goes to miners), on block 96,001 45k dvc are paid out to payee 2 etc until it reaches payee 10, then after that goes back to payee 1 etc etc, so that means payment is in gradual increments of 45k dvc, the number of which in reality will depend on any person's share and the total number of shares (it's not always 45,000 - depends whether whole or half shares but principle is the same). When you receive newly generated blocks, they have to 'mature' by receiving 120 confirmations (bascially acquire enough confirmations to make sure they're legit). You won't have to wait too long and yes it is quite exciting when you get them.
Thanks, weisoq! I think I can visualize this. So, is your place in line determined alphabetically? If that's the case, maybe I'd have done better by choosing Aardvark for a username LOL. Not that place in line ultimately matters--call it first time jitters  Read the receiver file I linked; it's all randomly generated. Ex. if you have 10 shares, there are like 1.3k lines so you may be at 3, 193, 438, 590, etc. |
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On another note... It is July 3rd and we have hit block 96,000. What should I expect in terms of payments for Devtome Round 24? I'm curious how this all works on the payment end, and admittedly a bit excited too  EDIT: I understand how payments are figured out. When will I see them in my wallet? Payment is made as blocks are generated, so that means that if, for example there were 10 payees on the receiver list for round 24 with an equal number of shares...on block 96,000 45,000dvc are paid out to payee 1 (50,000 x 0.9 because 10% goes to miners), on block 96,001 45k dvc are paid out to payee 2 etc until it reaches payee 10, then after that goes back to payee 1 etc etc, so that means payment is in gradual increments of 45k dvc, the number of which in reality will depend on any person's share and the total number of shares (it's not always 45,000 - depends whether whole or half shares but principle is the same). When you receive newly generated blocks, they have to 'mature' by receiving 120 confirmations (bascially acquire enough confirmations to make sure they're legit). You won't have to wait too long and yes it is quite exciting when you get them. To add on, download this file: http://devtome.com/files/receiver_24.csvThat shows the order in which shares are paid. So if your address shows up in row 18 and 37, you would be paid in block 96009 and 96038 (as the rows technically start with #10). The number of times you will find your address in the file depends on how many shares you earned. |
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Ah yes, the "Someone should do something about that!" conundrum. Remember: you and I are BOTH "someone". There's no central authority here, so it's only up to generic Joes like you and I. It's not up to the forum admins, GoDaddy, Google, etc., to get the ball rolling on this. /deep breath Clicky, clicky. http://www.stopfraud.gov/report.html#computerFilling this report form out now. You and I are both "someone", and we're going to do something about this. This forum thread will be the single point of contact as far as my report is concerned. Basically, "read from about page 5 onward". Normally I would be all over this, but I am already in the midst of multiple projects and a lawsuit of my own. My time is pretty much filled up to the point where I can not be the person to keep up with making sure everything is going as it should. I will still do what I can to help, but I can definitely not be the leader in this and we need someone that can lead it, otherwise it's going to be hectic and any law enforcement that may otherwise get involved will become overwhelmed and we'll still get nowhere. |
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Want to bring your attention to something else in case someone gets the law involved. Here are two things you can follow up on:
Their Google Analytics code: UA-40041908-1
Their Google Recaptcha API ID: 6LcLld8SAAAAAC7T6UPrpT2z039dg27xy3ROW6Nr
I am sure that somewhere they screwed up and forgot to completely conceal their identity, and these two may be where it was. Google should be able to supply law enforcement with all applicable information for those accounts (or that account if they are linked) including the IP's and other pertinent details.
Definitely worth a try.
awesome find, yes. it0s hard ever for cyber criminal to hide every every every trace. so if we wind a hole in their strategy, we must go that way to retrieve this SOB. i think a scam for over 200.000 $ placed in all the world, should be sufficient to make the authorities moving. but at this point, who of the people being scammed is moving, e.g. from the forum, to contact authorities ? we need to contact first google with these datas? please clarify the situation, because going on we understand the scam is every day bigger, and the moves to do to catch the SOB are everyday most difficult to follow all. we have to have a strategy defined and all clear for that purpose. If we contact Google ourselves, we will get nowhere. They can not release data to us; they can only release it to law enforcement, and even then it requires a subpoena. Along with this, law enforcement would not (in most circumstances) be able to release the data to us. We would basically have to trust (and push) them to do their job and handle this. We really need a single point of contact for this that can compile all the known data and start pushing this forward. |
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official clients and import them in to Ufasoft? Will they all be merged in to one (meaning that both BTC's will be merged and both LTC's will) or will they show up as separate entities?
Yes, they will be merged. That means UfasoftCoin will show SUM of all imported BTC money as single item. Got ya. Is there any way to export them back individually after, or would it all be held in a single wallet from that point forward? |
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I have a question too... using import/export wallet we can import/export to the official Coinname-QT, right? If so, what happens if, say we have the BTC and LTC wallets in our Ufasoft client, and then we export our keys from the official clients and import them in to Ufasoft? Will they all be merged in to one (meaning that both BTC's will be merged and both LTC's will) or will they show up as separate entities?
I am asking because I have three separate BTC clients on three different PC's and if possible I'd like to be able to run all three inside Ufasoft but as separate entities (ex. the listing would show BTC, BTC, BTC). Is this how it would work, or is it different?
I was going to test it out and see but I'm scared of screwing something up, :p.
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Is it possible to release those for the other coins as well? I think the most preferable way would be, if possible (depending on your bandwidth allowance) doing automatic uploads like every week or so for each coin so that as new users jump on they can download everything right then and there and get it done. |
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Ranlo
This is awesome, so thanks! Even if I don't win, I love what you're doing.
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Why bringing up that old crap?  The site is still operating and advertising, perhaps the better question is 'why aren't you still talking about it?' Yeah, it's sad that people get sucked in to this. Of course if you even think about it for a minute it's pretty obvious that it's a scam designed to benefit the first people who jumped in and screw over the rest. |
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Want to bring your attention to something else in case someone gets the law involved. Here are two things you can follow up on:
Their Google Analytics code: UA-40041908-1
Their Google Recaptcha API ID: 6LcLld8SAAAAAC7T6UPrpT2z039dg27xy3ROW6Nr
I am sure that somewhere they screwed up and forgot to completely conceal their identity, and these two may be where it was. Google should be able to supply law enforcement with all applicable information for those accounts (or that account if they are linked) including the IP's and other pertinent details.
Definitely worth a try.
Awesome find. That could be the info Google needs to track him/her/them down. Can anyone confirm that the accounts listed (and archived, in my previous posts) would only be in control of this guy in the Litecoin network? That would assign a hard dollar value on this information and would give the appropriate companies the motivation and rationale to find this information... At least with my information, I can confirm that the analytics would be his. I can't fathom why anyone would be using someone else's code on their site since only the owner of the Google account gets the benefits. It'd be like using someone else's advertising blocks on your page, :p. |
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Armed robbery
there's an idea What if he has no arms? Sounds a little insensitive not to consider that possibility... |
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Want to bring your attention to something else in case someone gets the law involved. Here are two things you can follow up on:
Their Google Analytics code: UA-40041908-1
Their Google Recaptcha API ID: 6LcLld8SAAAAAC7T6UPrpT2z039dg27xy3ROW6Nr
I am sure that somewhere they screwed up and forgot to completely conceal their identity, and these two may be where it was. Google should be able to supply law enforcement with all applicable information for those accounts (or that account if they are linked) including the IP's and other pertinent details.
Definitely worth a try.
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As an update, my last contact attempts were at 6 AM CST and 5:30 PM CST. Neither of them has been responded to and it is 9:30 PM CST.
I also just checked the pool I am on and found that the rig is off again and has been for who knows how long.
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My own review up to this point is still kind of iffy. I purchased two rigs back a week and a half ago, which were said to arrive on Wednesday (for him to host). One of them had problems with it, so its hash rate was diminished a bit, but it was put online on Thursday as promised (technically it was stated that it would be online on Wednesday but when he got it he said it would be until Thursday. One day isn't so bad so I figured it'd be alright). I was then given the information for logging in to it and everything was good on that part (aside from the issue with one of the cards). It was also insinuated that the second rig would be finished getting set up on the same day, and then he would work on figuring out what is wrong with the first one. The second rig, as far as I know, is still (almost a week later) not online. Since last Thursday, the one rig has hashed around 48 hours or so total, due to being taken offline for multiple days. Zif said that he is dealing with heating issues and so had to take all the rigs offline and move them to another room while he tries to deal with that. Sadly, during this entire period he has been pretty hard to get a hold of. I usually wait 36 hours before sending him another ping to try and see what is going on with this, and even so it can still be many hours before he gets back to me (I ping via cell phone and email). What makes issues worse than this for me is that he states the following: 06/28/13 - "Only getting hotter this week..need to fix this issue now" 06/28/13 - "yea..sorry..I will have it all locked down this weekend I promise...right now its been alot of other crap..havent got to sit wdown with it...once i have 2nd unit up i will go back and fix 1. probably just a bad setting. The heat is horrible...its 90 degrees inside hosting room. Lemme deal with this. should not be to long." 06/29/13 - says he is still dealing with the heating problems and will update me "tonight" -- never did so I had to get a hold of him the next day 06/30/13 - still no contact 07/01/13 - "Yes...still having heat issues..and im really sorry. Its frustrating. I did take Sunday off to be with my kids and family. I am up and at em this morning and will have issues resolved by tonight." (so much for 24/7 monitoring and service?) 07/02/13 - Messages sent starting at the 36 hour mark and still have not heard anything back via cell or email. What irritates me about this is that I thought before he started running the service he had everything locked down. I have so far lost a week of my hashing power, decreasing the ROI by a lot in the process (as I had spent days planning out everything prior to making the decision to purchase). Not only am I left in the dust still, pretty much, but it is hard to even figure out what is going on or when it will truly be fixed. At this point I am full of regret of even jumping in on this. It seemed like a great idea when I did the research, talked to him and jumped on it, but sadly this is not looking so great. As a business owner myself, I make it a priority to: 1) Fulfill my obligations to my customers 2) Follow through with timelines I give out 3) Stay in contact consistently I have never "taken a day off" when I had something to get finished. If I promised something would be finished on Saturday night, and it happened to not be finished that night, I would be up until I passed out working on it, and the first thing I would do Sunday is continue at it until I got it resolved. There is no way I would leave my customers in the dark because I decided to take a break; that is nothing but showing a lack of care. I seriously hope some of you have had better luck with this. |
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Ouch, this is looking even worse now. Just went to check out their Twitter page again (twitter.com/litecoinwallet) and it was removed sometime in the last day. It has been completely deleted.
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You brought up how many LTC he has, but who is to say that the numbers we are looking at aren't from depositors' funds? And in the large pools, that could be an exchange or something as well. |
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