Oh,  so I'm the first one around here to be doing that? These are rough parts around here in case you hadn't noticed. I sure did back when I endorsed HF.

Seems people can dish it out but can't take it back.


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I'm not a HF rep.

What I'm doing is no different than what you were doing criticizing in my thread.

Clearly they are having the same performance issues in the hosting center you all are having at home.

Deer frozen.

Yes he is a shill.

So what's he gonna do about this mess?

Well, certainly don't do that.  It's just money after all, right? 

But, hey, Bitcoinorama claims he's all about ethics. I'm sure he'd understand your dilemma and get you a refund, right?

Being the businessmen that they are, with Bitcoinorama yapping at their tails, I can assure you they will make all of you assume all the losses.

Yeah where is that idiot Bitcoinorama when you need him?

Imo, this is a multi - pronged problem. Not only was the packaging inadequate but more importantly we have a design problem. going from 8 to 4 VRM was a mistake.  Double the phases means half the current, means smoother power, means more stability for over clocking, means less heat, means less blowing up.  I doubt it's just firmware.

Any company that is in the position that KNC finds itself is like a deer caught in your headlights.

They don't know what to do because the floor has just fallen out from underneath  them and now they will be just fighting to survive.

You'll be lucky to get any units by the end of October.

Don't forget the MPP which will multiply your hashing power by 5x after 3 months if you're not getting the full ROI.  Beat that.

Not to mention a much more efficient chip, ie, lower power consumption.

Didn't you get the memo?

Housing Centre burnt down 

also please note that the whole lot of Cointerra threads (4 at last count) have disappeared from the front page of the Custom Hardware section.

they haven't posted a thing in 2 wks.  i think something is wrong.

no, it was totally expected from a couple of business guys who don't know jack about engineering an asic but instead just emphasize getting a product out "on time" while taking unlimited orders in any form of payment they could get their hands on.

this is why i went with HF who has an engineering team within the company on the front end while working with a top notch physical design team in the same office on the back end in Uniquify.  i strongly doubt HF will have the same level of problems that KNC is so aptly demonstrating. 

if i'm wrong, i'll gladly eat my words but i highly doubt it from what i know from the inside.

no one knows exactly for sure but i'm still hoping for last week October.

to be even clearer, ckolivas is slated to get one of the first BJ's to actively work on and update.  only after i get my Order #1, Batch #1 though.  

it'll come preinstalled with cgminer which ckolivas has already seen and will be working on.

none of that seems like fun to me.

it's really too bad you guys are having to go thru all this trial and error to make up for what KNC should've taken care of.

in HF's case, they hired the water cooling company itself to do heat simulations using all the Babyjet parts except for the actual chip itself.  they used a heating element to put out 250 W of nominal heat production to make sure the cooler could handle that first.  then they took the wattage up to 350 W of heat to make sure the cooler could handle that amount at what is meant to be an overclocked situation.  no problems according to the results from the water cooling company.  they may have even taken it higher but don't quote me on that.  i won't bother to tell you what hashing rate that took the chip up to b/c HF doesn't want to overpromise but it would knock your socks off.

or, you can just buy a HashFast.

bwahaha!

water cooling anyone?

does anyone know who KNC chose to do their packaging and assembling?