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8181  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30000 GH] BTC Guild - PPS/PPLNS with TxFees, Stratum+Vardiff ASIC Tested on: June 01, 2013, 10:03:51 PM
just got asicminer blade,is there any way can mining in btcguild with my blade?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=205369.msg2332148#msg2332148
8182  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Russia, Bitfury ASIC! on: June 01, 2013, 10:00:54 PM
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Refunds(correctred): refunds are only eccepted if you bought a whole asic device for 3250$, and will be payed within 30 days, in bitcoins, you will receive the amount of bitcoins you payed.

That's risky for you and the buyer if price shifts, probably better to fix to fiat via exchange price.
8183  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICs are Over priced on: June 01, 2013, 09:49:48 PM
Then stop complaining. I had £12 in my bank account. Was bored, started my own £1M company at 13. Do something about it other than complain. In either case, why do we have to hear the QQ?


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Paying for college: 15UhE4x7d1hD2o2YKCcdddzuhymsTKdeuz

Ah internet...

4 years of engineering and a 2 year MBA at Harvard/MIT = big bucks. Your attempt at logic was a good try though.

In other news, ASICs are retardedly priced right now, but I blame the bitcoin community more than the manufacturers. ASICMiner is a perfect example, they publicly announced that pricing would be based on the auction results, and more or less true to their word, they were. The first batch auctioned for ~75BTC (more than a blade will probably ever make in its lifetime), Second batch went for 66 or so (see above). Third batch was priced-in at 50BTC and sold out the same day I believe? With a backlog of 140orders on top of their offering.

The third batch may or may not break-even or produce a tiny amount of profit, yet demand for them is so high it is as though they were batch 1 avalons (the price people are paying for a blade is roughly equivalent to what people are paying for batch 2 in-hand avalons, so don't try to say "oh but they ship now!").

So again, the community is at fault, too much capital, not enough sense. C'est la vie.

Have to say it for the 3000th time. Even at 150m difficulty in a year, blades still ROI in 16-20 weeks depending on batch. Remember when it was QQ Avalon B2s overpriced, then QQQQ Avalon B3s rip off?

Being bemused by your self-aggrandizing and likely fabricated statements is not an "attempt at logic". I do hope "Harvard/MIT" are a little more selective in their candidates (or perhaps they are revamping their courses in logic, be it electrical, mathematical, or philosophical), but perhaps not.

150M in a year at what rate, linear? I'm sure a "Harvard MBA" like yourself can think outside linear growth.

I didn't say linear did I. But in either case, we really don't know what will happen after Sept-Oct when the Avalon DIYs come online. Any new releases, if any, could be on any process, any price, by anyone. Multinationals might have their own ASICs developed and deployed in private by then. Bitcoin price could be $30,000 and makes it profitable to mine on phones.

Who knows, its all an estimation.
8184  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICs are Over priced on: June 01, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
Then stop complaining. I had £12 in my bank account. Was bored, started my own £1M company at 13. Do something about it other than complain. In either case, why do we have to hear the QQ?


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Paying for college: 15UhE4x7d1hD2o2YKCcdddzuhymsTKdeuz

Ah internet...

4 years of engineering and a 2 year MBA at Harvard/MIT = big bucks. Your attempt at logic was a good try though.

In other news, ASICs are retardedly priced right now, but I blame the bitcoin community more than the manufacturers. ASICMiner is a perfect example, they publicly announced that pricing would be based on the auction results, and more or less true to their word, they were. The first batch auctioned for ~75BTC (more than a blade will probably ever make in its lifetime), Second batch went for 66 or so (see above). Third batch was priced-in at 50BTC and sold out the same day I believe? With a backlog of 140orders on top of their offering.

The third batch may or may not break-even or produce a tiny amount of profit, yet demand for them is so high it is as though they were batch 1 avalons (the price people are paying for a blade is roughly equivalent to what people are paying for batch 2 in-hand avalons, so don't try to say "oh but they ship now!").

So again, the community is at fault, too much capital, not enough sense. C'est la vie.

Have to say it for the 3000th time. Even at 150m difficulty in a year, blades still ROI in 16-20 weeks depending on batch. Remember when it was QQ Avalon B2s overpriced, then QQQQ Avalon B3s rip off?
8185  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: best place to sell? on: June 01, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
I'm looking at taking a few units so PM me, UK based. I think we have it pretty good over here, easy to sue for debts or fraud, good policing etc.
8186  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICs are Over priced on: June 01, 2013, 08:55:07 PM
What are you shitting. An erupter blade is 13 GH for 50btc delivered globally within 3 days. ROI is 120-180 days depending on when you bought.

That is a good return, but compare the price to the Avalon units and 50BTC for 12GH/s is fairly pricey. On the other hand, the erupter blades are actually available.
The erupter blades will make money, but not everyone has $8K to drop on a single piece of hashing equipment.

The difference is Avalon was an unknown seller, had no significant proof of concept, and there was a cheaper alternative in BFL that appeared way more reputable. Still, delivery "in the future". ASICMiner is proven, has 30,000 of the same product mining themselves, is publicly traded and has items in hand.

Risk = reward, its no secret


$1,500.00 for 68 Gh/s

should've had faith in Yifu

If I'd head of bitcoins I would have put $8-10k in when they were around $6. Very surprised I didn't hear of it as at the time I was heavily in the hardware business.

Nothing at all in my post suggested centralization.  ASICs are already in the hands of hundreds if not thousands of people.  How do you figure anything close to centralization is going on right now?

Together, ASICMiner and BTCGuild could attempt a 51% attack. Presuming of course that there is some hash power on BTCGuild that is discrete from ASICMiner.
The ASICMiner deployment alone controls over 20% of the network.

....no, just no. That's like saying "OMG IF EVERYONE IN BITCOIN JOINED TOGETHER THEY COULD 51%". Use common sense please.
8187  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICs are Over priced on: June 01, 2013, 06:35:25 PM
What are you shitting. An erupter blade is 13 GH for 50btc delivered globally within 3 days. ROI is 120-180 days depending on when you bought.

first batch went for at least 75 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178275.0
second batch went for at least 50BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189248.0
third batch was price fixed @ 50 BTC so you could order all blades right away , some did start with 10 blades order they sold out when I knew about the batch. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201753.0


and with all do respect, we are just discussing a subject here, there is no need to get angry and aggressive. keep it nice and smooth .

Angry and aggressive? You were just plain wrong while qq'ing about a topic no one cares about.
8188  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICs are Over priced on: June 01, 2013, 06:34:31 PM
What are you shitting. An erupter blade is 13 GH for 50btc delivered globally within 3 days. ROI is 120-180 days depending on when you bought.

True but not all of us have $7000-$9000 laying around to be invested in a bleeding edge might be technology.

Then bitcoin is not your game. Speculate to accumulate, spectate to procrastinate.
8189  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICs are Over priced on: June 01, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
What are you shitting. An erupter blade is 13 GH for 50btc delivered globally within 3 days. ROI is 120-180 days depending on when you bought.
8190  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitfury-Metabank ASIC 120 Gh/s (my intermediary services) on: June 01, 2013, 11:14:22 AM
Do you guarantee delivery of a product or full refund? If not, you're breaking a hell of a lot of laws.
8191  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Comprehensive ASICMiner Blade Setup on: June 01, 2013, 10:14:13 AM
where is the this documentation?thanks

You need to download, install and then run it with the help flag.

https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy
    How do I start? Can you explain? Proxy by default on slush. Many say eg.:
- BTC Guild the raw command will be : mining_proxy_1.2.0.exe -o stratum.btcguild.com -p 3333
- 50BTC the raw command will be :     mining_proxy_1.2.0.exe -o pool.50btc.com -p 3333.
   But how, where, what?

Move the mining_proxy.exe into a folder called "Stratum Proxy" in your program files x86. Create a text file on the desktop. Enter the following and then save it as a .bat.

cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Stratum Proxy
mining_proxy.exe -o eu-stratum.btcguild.com -p 3333

It will then open cmd and start the proxy with the custom settings. You can also set it to be silent (in the background) or to be a windows service.
so if i want to connect 50btc.com i should use below command
cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Stratum Proxy
mining_proxy.exe -o pool.50btc.com -p 3333
but it does not work....something wrong?
Port is 8332
8192  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Possible reason for Avalon batch 2 extended delay on: June 01, 2013, 10:12:51 AM
20 seconds of work on an open case, HOLY SHIT THATS 3.5 HOURS MUST MEAN MONTH LONG DELAY
8193  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] My BFL's have shipped! Jalapenos in hand (soon) BNIB SEALED. on: June 01, 2013, 09:45:01 AM
Don't start the opening bid at the price its worth *sigh*
8194  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Comprehensive ASICMiner Blade Setup on: May 31, 2013, 08:05:44 PM
Created my 6th mounting system. Most of the parts didn't arrive so had to ghetto mod. Only single rail at the top [was going to do 2], all the corners are actually tee's xD No cable ties of the right side so shit load of wire ties.


Awesome Dogie.. good one..looks good.
may be a little cable management will increase the air flow and ventilation i guess.!

Otherwise looks good.! So do you have any fan or airflow for the switch and fan controller.. piling them together on top of the PSU might get them little ehated up.

Also what is the temps that you are getting on the power modules.
The power module on one of my blade is hotter as compared to the other blade.. The same board has one "X" as well.
Probably i should test the volts of the power lane.

Anyway, am getting the stuff that i ordered for my mounting case today.. probably will post the pics over the weekend.

Trust me, that is cable managed. If you look from above there is a core of cabling surrounding the upper bar, and nothing outside the profile of the fan blocks.



Switch has none but is cold, doesnt need any. The larger fan controller might get a fan if I can be bothered, the tiny heatsinks inside are dissipating a decent amount of heat. I have 3x140mm fans I was going to use to help draw the heat up, just testing without at the moment.

What's interesting is the bottom push fans are ramming alot of the heat down. I've adjusted the top pull fans up to see how it affects things.
8195  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Comprehensive ASICMiner Blade Setup on: May 31, 2013, 07:18:04 PM
Created my 6th mounting system. Most of the parts didn't arrive so had to ghetto mod. Only single rail at the top [was going to do 2], all the corners are actually tee's xD No cable ties of the right side so shit load of wire ties.




4 fans per blade, bottom two in push, top two in pull.

Blades mounted vertically so heatsink naturally convects


12 fan controller


Another 8 fan controllers and an 8 port network switch
Only 3 connections required - mains power for the PSU, mains power for the network switch and a single ethernet cable to router.

Window sill mountage

Stealth mode engaged [aka cleaner invisibility cloak]

Printing monies
8196  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Comprehensive ASICMiner Blade Setup on: May 31, 2013, 06:59:23 PM
where is the this documentation?thanks

You need to download, install and then run it with the help flag.

https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy
     How do I start? Can you explain? Proxy by default on slush. Many say eg.:
- BTC Guild the raw command will be : mining_proxy_1.2.0.exe -o stratum.btcguild.com -p 3333
- 50BTC the raw command will be :     mining_proxy_1.2.0.exe -o pool.50btc.com -p 3333.
   But how, where, what?

Move the mining_proxy.exe into a folder called "Stratum Proxy" in your program files x86. Create a text file on the desktop. Enter the following and then save it as a .bat.

cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Stratum Proxy
mining_proxy.exe -o eu-stratum.btcguild.com -p 3333

It will then open cmd and start the proxy with the custom settings. You can also set it to be silent (in the background) or to be a windows service.
8197  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Comprehensive ASICMiner Blade Setup on: May 31, 2013, 11:28:24 AM
Found my 3rd block. Would be 280% my pool earnings :/
How long it was from the 1st block found and how much hashing power do you use in solo?

Found a block with 26GH within a week, then another with 52 after another 3 weeks. Final one after another week. I was mining on pool though, so I earn't nothing.
Too bad Sad Which pool you're mining at?

Started Slush but it was being strange. Pool luck was at like 70% consistently for over a week, which statistically is pretty unlikely. They kept saying there was no problem but I left anyway. BTCGuild gives slightly higher hash rates due to EU servers and better graphing/idle notification.
8198  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Comprehensive ASICMiner Blade Setup on: May 31, 2013, 10:45:50 AM
Found my 3rd block. Would be 280% my pool earnings :/
How long it was from the 1st block found and how much hashing power do you use in solo?

Found a block with 26GH within a week, then another with 52 after another 3 weeks. Final one after another week. I was mining on pool though, so I earn't nothing.
8199  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: PCI-E 6+2 Pin with 2 Molex Connectors Adaptor New Design + Powered Risers! on: May 31, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
Put it in the right category, my god.
8200  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Comprehensive ASICMiner Blade Setup on: May 31, 2013, 04:23:43 AM
Found my 3rd block. Would be 280% my pool earnings :/
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