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821  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 1166 interpret log to find power being used on: January 18, 2022, 11:45:11 PM
Please use the code format icon # to make that a lot easier on the eyes...
That said, no miner made gives us a readout of actual power used. They do give us logs of voltage applied to the chips but do not have current sensing. Without a way to sense (and know) the current being pulled, voltage is literally only 1/2 of the equation used to calculate power.
822  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: First time/Small miner reference for getting started. on: January 18, 2022, 08:20:30 PM
Can someone tell me where I can find complete information about mining, thanks
For a start -- the opening post of this thread should point you in the right directions....
823  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: How do custom firmware collect their fees. on: January 18, 2022, 02:09:30 AM
It's easy enough to remove the fees from all these illegal firmware.
The people who release them are really not that smart.
Of course I'm certainly not gonna support a bunch of criminals and help people use their firmware ...
So how does one redirect the dev fee. I'm actually using this firmware. I got a really crappy mine, I bought it second hand. Send to bitmain for repair, they scrapped it. I but I used a custom firmware and it sometimes works. So I can at least get some $, but I honestly need all I can get to stay alive
Re-directing or outright blocking the devfee address is not the hard part: the fact that the miner is also looking for those (sucessfull) connections and will stop mining when it no longer gets the correct responses when it tries to switch to the dev pool. In short, it is a software based license key dongle.
824  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Need to know the location of algorithm in CGMiner it's running from on: January 16, 2022, 08:42:36 PM
The clean open source code is freely available from 2 github sites ran by the 2 original major developers of it, -ck and Kano with Kano's being the most up to date as -ck locked his site long ago. Download it and do your own search for it.
If you are any sort of decent programmer that will be no problem, if you are still learning then consider it as a learning exercise.
825  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: January 16, 2022, 04:07:41 PM
Ever hear of PM?
You posted in a public area so one should expect replies from the public...  Roll Eyes
826  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Need to know the location of algorithm in CGMiner it's running from on: January 16, 2022, 03:58:15 PM
....
You CANNOT mine BTC using anything other than an ASIC-based miner.
Period.
Perhaps try reading some of the pinned messages here - mainly point 3 - to avoid posting such ludicrous questions...
827  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: January 15, 2022, 06:50:49 PM
I'll look into solo working with 0.21 when I get to doing that - give it a little while Smiley
But no, it's far from ideal to use a version of bitcoin prior to 0.21, since when taproot activates next month, you must be running 0.21 or later.
Hi Kano, could you give us an update?
Not done yet.
Working on pool code.
Hi Kano, two month now, any update for the fix of cgminer?
Nearly 3  month now, and no answer.
If you don't want to finish your work, say so.
@Sidehack: I will not buy a product anymore wich is not able to fullfill the BASIC task, mining on your own wallet.
Then you will not be buying any BTC miners from anyone. It ain't cgminer (or the various ripped off versions of it) that is 'broken' and needs 'fixing'. It is Core that broke solo mining and as Kano already pointed out, it's far from ideal to use a version of bitcoin prior to 0.21, since when taproot activates next month, you must be running 0.21 or later.

Considering that unless you have excellent connections to the other mining nodes on the internet it is a HORRIBLE idea to mine to your own node with a high risk of finding a block and then you losing every orphan race to better connected sites, there is no pressing need for cgminer to be patched to allow doing it.
828  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Hash board power connector? on: January 15, 2022, 06:27:22 PM
Evidently these are 6Pin ATX connectors. Found some on eBay and be here in a few days. The L3++ running fine on 3 boards once I disabled the Reboot on low hash rate.
OC
No, odds are they the ubiquitous PCIe connectors. There is no such thing as an 'ATX' connector.

That said, odds are ones from ebay or other grey-market sites are crap. As long as you do not unplug/plug them more that a couple time they should be fine but will wear out after just a few mating cycles. It is far better to get power components from reputable distributors such as DigiKey, Allied, Mouser, etc. where you can choose the type and quality you want.
829  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: avalon 1246 help please on: January 15, 2022, 03:45:19 AM
Good to know Cheesy
Merit given for keeping us in the loop!
830  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: January 15, 2022, 03:33:52 AM
<snip
As Spock would say "Interesting".

So if I read that right, if PD is divorced from the master/slave (by supplying power from say a barrel connector) one could use the 4 wire USB 3.0 master/slave data protocol & achieve a higher data rate than USB 2.0. That would also allow for higher PD than 100W. Effectively limited only by the current handling of the barrel connector.

This makes sense as many USB 3.0 to SATAIII adapters have external wall warts to supply power to the SATA power port.

Did I glean that correctly?
Or am I all FUBAR & in need to re-read that reference.
Pup
[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
It would NOT change what PD can deliver. Same as with the USB charging specs the power delivery voltage is a wired negotiation between the master and slave(s) where there is a set of resistances presented by the slave device across the power wires when you plug it in. Something like either 10k, 4k or 2k as I recall. The master sees that and sets voltage output - up to 26vdc -  and current limits accordingly. The regulators in the slaves of course need to be able to handle that so if no initial handshake resistance is seen by the master the port limits output to the standard 5vdc @ 1A.

That out of the way, a USB-C PD port can both deliver power and handle data -- it's just that data has to come from/go to a different master (for data) device port. In the case of say a laptop using a powered USB-C hub with a PD port that is sized to power the laptop (up to 100w) the hub is the master for PD while the port on the laptop is the master for all data xfrs. The one cable between the laptop and powered hub handles both power to the laptop as well as data to/from it and the hub then splits off or passes through the (data only) to whatever is plugged into its data or display ports.
831  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Awesomeminer software on: January 15, 2022, 02:51:31 AM
Their thread is here Since it is not just a miner monitor and is also heavily designed for altcoin algo/type switching, discussions about it are in the Altcoin area of the Forum and not here which is a Bitcoin-only area.
That said, it's very very good for monitoring and controlling miners. I've ran my farm with it for years. Cheesy
832  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2022 Diff thread. on: January 15, 2022, 02:14:11 AM
Old powerplants that have been put out of business since the new environmental movement as they couldn't find clients anymore, everyone wanting green energy. But the US has a lot of cheap coal, a lot of mines that lack the infrastructure and logistics for exports and that can supply only the nearby power plant. That's the case of Marathon cheap power in Montana, same as this ~2.5c
Add gas flaring, add some gas powerplants, one-two smelters, wouldn't be surprised if more manage under 5c rates.

EIA says 128GW of installed power and 473Twh production, so there might be some more plants left that can be turned on, and that's just Texas.
If all this is not just assumptions but even half-real, we're ... Roll Eyes
Good summary of the situation here in the US though it should be said that a good part of the 'new found' power in Texas and other states is coming from natural gas powered plants that were normally used as peak/reserve plants. In the past 2-3 years it has finally occurred to the operators that they can put that reserve capacity to work mining crypto whenever the plant is not being called on to do what it was designed for. Even with gas turbines it takes a fair bit of time to ramp up from the normally low baseline output to whatever max capacity the plant can produce. Technically the power plants are 'losing' money when the plants are idling.

Having the ability to keep the plants running much closer to full capacity while reaping large profits from mining farms is a win-win for all involved. The plants run at much higher efficiencies and because there is usually a fairly short run between the power plants and the farms, very low infra cost to deliver the power. The one catch is to have the needed agreements in place so when needed, mining loads can be shed so the plant can fulfill its design purpose: provide power to the grid when required. Once grid loads subside the miners restart. The various Texas power utilities did that last year with the farms located there and in fact paid the farms a fair % of lost revenues during the power outages for them to stay off line until the Public Needs were fully covered.

That peak loads plant located in upstate NY that made headlines for 'heating up the lake' last year is another example though in their case the mine is actually located on the plants property and is directly ran by the power company so there is no paying someone else to throttle back when needed. For them it's now part of normal operations balancing capacity to grid load. Their now being able to redirect 10's to 100's of MW within minutes by switching miners off and then later back on vs well over an hour slowly ramping up the power sources and generators then the same to bring them back down to idle status is a Godsend.

As for coal-fired plants still being viable despite the carbon emissions... Thank 'Inconvenient Truth' Al Gore for that. He and his family advisors are the ones who came up with the idea of carbon credits: the buying and selling of industrial carbon footprints and offsets to them. That and that alone is why there is a lot less hue and cry about coal plants in the US vs other countries. Coal fired plants here per legal definitions and standards of accounting can have a relatively 'low' total footprint because they are paying for others to Go Green. The carbon footprint reductions other companies are 'saving' is subtracted from what the high emission industries produce when said industries purchase carbon credits. Yes there is a gov regulated market for that in the US. Normally high carbon footprint industries still have to reduce actual emissions as much as is economically feasible but being able to buy their way out certainly helps the accounting...

To bring us back on track with the main topic Wink the end result of all the 'new found' cheap power in the US means that should be an interesting year for Diff as more and more farms start up here with new equipment coming online.
833  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining Difficulty when you Started vs. Mining Difficulty Now on: January 14, 2022, 12:37:02 AM
Is it always more profitable for the average individual to mine ETH with a mining rig rather than BTC?
Wrong area of the Forum to discuss that.  Use the General or Altcoin areas. This area is for Bitcoin Mining using hardware only.

Back to the topic, the 1st block I was paid for at Kano pool was on 2014-Oct-26 21:15 with a Diff of 35,985,640,265.08 . At the time I was running 574.09GHs.
To-date I've found 10 for the pool Cheesy
834  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining Difficulty when you Started vs. Mining Difficulty Now on: January 13, 2022, 09:50:54 PM
is it all pool mining now  ,my friend
Oh? There are 2 folks that were running Solo who each hit a block in the past 3 days that will strongly disagree with your statement. Granted it is highly unlikely there will be a repeat of that anytime soon but nonetheless it is all just a matter of Luck. Also do not forget that regardless how massive a pool is, it is still just 1 miner in the pool that finds a block. It could be a faily low 2-3 THs or it could be a TOL 110THs miner but it still just 1 piece of hardware.
835  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Wallet Mining on: January 13, 2022, 09:44:13 PM
I think this is a scam,because there's no website that do free mining and earn  cryptocurrency,so beware of scammers.
There is no 'I think' about this. It IS a SCAM! Period.
836  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: mining Asic Vs Mining Rig on: January 12, 2022, 09:28:28 PM
Read the pinned msg at the top of this area, mainly point-3
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3. Mining BITCOIN is done exclusively with dedicated BITCOIN mining hardware based on ASICs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application-specific_integrated_circuit . You CAN NOT meaningfully mine bitcoin today with CPU, GPU or even FPGAs. Bitcoin difficulty adapts to match the amount of mining done on the network and has reached levels trillions of times too high to mine meaningfully with PCs, laptops, tablets, phones, webpages, javascript, GPUs, and even generalised SHA hardware. You will not find software in this section to help you mine bitcoin in this absurdly inefficient manner in this subforum. It would cost you thousands of dollars in electricity per year to earn only a few cents in bitcoin. Even if you combined all the computers in the world, including all known supercomputer, you would not even approach 0.1% of the bitcoin hashrate today. Any discussion outside of ASIC related mining, except in the interests of academia, will be moved to the altcoin mining section. There isn't any point attempting to mine bitcoin with CPU or GPU even in the interests of learning as it shares almost nothing with how bitcoin is mined with ASICs and will not teach you anything.
The main point is that CPU/GPU's are generalized hardware designed to do many different things. Being programmable means that there are many different operations going on moving data between various registers and buffer locations when processing data and all of which consume many clock cycles for each hash operation.

as their name clearly states Application Specific Integrated Circuits are hard-wired to do 1 thing and 1 thing only. In our case they crunch sha256. A single ASIC chip contains several thousand cores (the Bitfury chips in the Apollo each have 4096 cores) with each one working on different nonce value and spit out results every clock cycle in pipelined operations. Add to that the fact that most modern miners each contain several hundred of said ASIC's and there is just no possible comparison in computational density and power efficiency.
837  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Issue That I Can't Wrap My Head Around on: January 12, 2022, 01:47:59 AM
Instead of block rewards, miners will mostly rely on transaction fees.

This is when I believe we run into a problem. This is because historically humans have a strong distaste for fees especially with simple actions on the Internet. If we want Bitcoin to become a global currency that is used for primarily every transaction, having fees is an easy way to deter new people from adopting Bitcoin as their main currency.

Where this kind of assumptions come from? Did you make any bitcoin transaction ever?
Even now people pay transaction fees. Last 4 blocks came with 0.15, 0.08, 0.03 or 0.1 BTC for the miners from fees. When the network is more crowded, the fees increase greatly.
So.. one error in the logic is about the fees. People do pay fees already for the transactions and bitcoin didn't stop existing.

Even more, although you don't seem to know, but you also pay transaction fees in the fiat world, when you pay with your card. Just nobody cares to tell you that the merchant included that into the price you see for the product/service you buy and he's paying that fee to Visa/Mastercard (or keeps the difference if you pay with fiat).<snip>
re folks paying fees and specifically, ccard fees - at least in the US, the one place where it is obvious how much of a fee you pay for the convenience of using a credit/debit card vs paying cash is buying gas. Most gas stations charge (and are required to advertise it on their signs) around 10-cents more per gallon vs paying cash. In my area that is currently about a 3.25% fee for the 'convenience' of using a card. A lot of small stores and restaurants will have a minimum you owe to use a card and often give a few % discount when paying cash.
838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining with oculus quest ? on: January 10, 2022, 09:50:57 PM
Read the 'friendly' pinned msgs at the top of this area.... Mainly point-3
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3. Mining BITCOIN is done exclusively with dedicated BITCOIN mining hardware based on ASICs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application-specific_integrated_circuit . You CAN NOT meaningfully mine bitcoin today with CPU, GPU or even FPGAs. Bitcoin difficulty adapts to match the amount of mining done on the network and has reached levels trillions of times too high to mine meaningfully with PCs, laptops, tablets, phones, webpages, javascript, GPUs, and even generalised SHA hardware. You will not find software in this section to help you mine bitcoin in this absurdly inefficient manner in this subforum. It would cost you thousands of dollars in electricity per year to earn only a few cents in bitcoin. Even if you combined all the computers in the world, including all known supercomputer, you would not even approach 0.1% of the bitcoin hashrate today. Any discussion outside of ASIC related mining, except in the interests of academia, will be moved to the altcoin mining section. There isn't any point attempting to mine bitcoin with CPU or GPU even in the interests of learning as it shares almost nothing with how bitcoin is mined with ASICs and will not teach you anything.
Maybe it *could* work with some crapcoins but they have their own area for talking about them.
839  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Power factor correction needed for ASIC, yay or nay? on: January 10, 2022, 02:48:43 PM
These days virtually all miner PSU's have active PFC and will not need external caps to keep the utility company happy.
Now if you are running a lot of motors or very old switchmode power supplies that do not have active PFC then you may need to look at that. As for the big florescent lights -- maybe, though I'd think that if PFC was needed for them it would have been done when the place was built.
840  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: problem with test fixture s9 hashboard on: January 09, 2022, 06:45:07 PM
Bought what test fixture, and from who. There are a few different ones out there...
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