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821  Economy / Speculation / Re: this is the drop i have been waiting for on: February 03, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
still dropping.....whats the bottom?

it went

5x down in 2013 so ? 20k ---> 4K?
I guess we will have to wait and see when we get to reach the bottom.
For now, it seems we still have some long steady downtrend to keep going. Things may be different from 2013 though as we are not having the same scenarios in play.

I still have the feelings that if bitcoin really end up going below $8000, it is going to be adjudged weak and I really hope we have the string whales in place to prevent something like this from happening. Like I said, let's see how long this bear ride keeps going.
822  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin capital fleeing to Ethereum? on: February 03, 2018, 12:45:58 PM
I have to agree with you regarding avoiding ethereum before. Initially, it was too complicated for me. But then, it all started with the airdrop hype. Everybody is having their airdrop in eth platform. So I tried. Anyway, there's no harm in trying, right? And guess what, I earned a lot from those eth tokens. So I'm not complaining. Grin There are a lot of advantages in eth platform that's maybe why a lot are utilizing now their services.

Ethereum is increasing in value because just like you said more company is using smart contract base on Ethereum.

But the probability of Ethereum to surpass Bitcoin is highly unlikely to happen, a lot of user is trading their Bitcoin for Ethereum now because it looks like the price is increasing, But that is only temporarily we can see some sell in high and will lead Ethereum to the stable price and chances are Bitcoin capital will remain.

P.S But I really doubt that Ethereum will not surpass Bitcoin a lot of company are now using the technology of ETH.
Well, they are pretty close in market capitalization, so based on that, I would not say there is no possibility of it. We really need some news right now to cause bitcoin to gain some momentum. Ethereum is a good project that has given birth to similar good ones, no doubt !

However, the move in the market now to me, is more like whales trying to pull stunts to cause an uptrend in the market for Ethereum, get some pretty good profit from the trend just before bitcoin gets on the recovery mode. Just my thoughts though. Also, I see right now as the good time to invest in alts.
823  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin, how far it can go! on: February 03, 2018, 12:05:08 PM
In 2018, we are having a lot of issues relating to cryptocurrencies and most of these issues are regulations and governments trying to centralized Bitcoin by establishing control over it.
I am thinking if Bitcoin can actually fight on as we can see from the pricing of recent that Bitcoin has been dropping and it is finding it difficult to recover. How far can Bitcoin go? Has governments using the tools' of regulation to control Bitcoin pricing working for them? Your opinion will be appreciated and if you make a good view about what is happening you will get merit from me. Thanks.

I don't agree. Governments are not trying to control it, they are trying to put regulation in to protect consumers. It just makes sense to implement basic controls so that things that are illegal (insider trading, washing trades etc) are not replayed against unsuspecting consumers. It's not regulation that is controlling the pricing, it's players with too much control on the system: Ver, Bitmain, USDT etc.

How far will Bitcoin go? On the way down, I think we are all in for a surprise. On the way up, once the dentists with too much money have dumped and the panic is over then I think Bitcoin will recover like it always does and the sky is the limit.
Simple! And I do not see why people are really not getting that. Crypto market is getting big and people expect government to keep shut when we will end up seeing those who will be using it for criminal activities, those who may be trying to use the process to evade tax and so on and so forth. Anyone who wants that should better go to a country where there is no governmental system.

If exchanges are not regulated, a lot of crazy activities will be going on that may even end up giving the crypto market a negative name, so it is better we have it now than later.
824  Economy / Marketplace / Re: The most stable coin" USDT" ,have the possibility of collapse?? on: February 03, 2018, 10:28:32 AM
The most stable coin ,have the possibility of collapse?

This question Troubled me for long time,Thanks for answer Smiley

USDT is currently experiencing a scandal, and its future will collapse. Investors will now invest in BTC, ETH as well as cryptos in the top 10. The USDT collapse is also understandable because of the stability of the cryptos, while the remaining cryptos are falling unstable, USDT only fluctuates at the rate of $ 1.

usdt is not an investment vehicle. you don't "invest" in usdt. it's impossible for usdt to collapse unless the exchanges (or usd itself) collapses in which usdt is no more riskier than any other coins.
even if the so called scandal is true, and there isn't actually a single dollar in the bank, the value of usdt to usd will remain unaffected.
The only thing in which most of the investors are actually interested is that which help them in making of more amount of money. There are investments like that of gold which were once considered as the best way of investing your money but since they have got the stable market value, none of the investor invested his money into it. Same is the case when it comes to that of USDT. People will lose their interest in USDT as it is getting stable market value.

it can be collapsed because the coin is not backed with anything and you can create as much as you want, which is against the rules of finance and cause inflation in long term.
But when more people are ready to hold, I guess there will be less possibilities for this coin to get collapsed. Still, there cannot be anything to be done when more people prefer not to hold.
825  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Hacking is the Big Problem on: February 03, 2018, 07:25:15 AM
If the computers are poorly managed, they are vulnerable to attacks even by amateur hackers. As the technology advances, hackers are also become more high tech and sophisticated, and they are hard to control unless stronger measures is pursued against them.
There are some effective to avoid being hacked by strengthening your passwords, fortifying your devices with 2fa and always look out for any malicious links or activities like phising sites.
Hacking is actually one of the biggest threat not only to the ones who are there in the world of digital currencies but also to the ones who are there on the internet one way or the other. The only thing which can keep you secure from hackers is to keep your systems up to date. Do not leave your systems open for everyone to use and try to study well before doing any kind of thing on internet.

I am using 2 computers. One for my usual activities and another one specially meant for wallets and crypto staking related. I do access web wallets from that computer alone. Also I am running latest antivirus.
826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you watch the price of your altcoin everyday? on: February 03, 2018, 06:25:39 AM
I seldom watched or check my coins price because it only depressed me when i saw how it getting low everyday ,it feels sucks but the best way i can do is to hold it and never tempted to sell my coins. I'm still waiting for the right time my coins to rise again..
It should not depress you as such sort of behavior is common in crypto coins. I don’t know what exactly you are holding, but selling out during the dip is not an option. However, if I had the knowledge of your holding, I could have been more specific in my suggestion. If it is a famous altcoins, you should keep it. Otherwise, sell it out because there are cases of failures in crypto currencies also.
827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Its over guys on: February 03, 2018, 05:52:34 AM
its not over, even if they ban crypto in india i think its not at all, people will make a way Smiley and India is not the one who control the price of crypto. why panic, you should put some on dip like this Smiley
Really ? Since when has India become that important in the world of technology ? Sorry but it is still not a developed country or a big market controller like China so why paying this much attention on it banning bitcoin. India can curse bitcoin or all other crypto currencies for all I care. Nothing new for bitcoin anyways. I heard that it is planning to launch its own digital currency with the name of Lakshmi.
828  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin Volatility A Bad Thing? on: February 03, 2018, 04:31:09 AM
If you know how to use it, volatility allows very big gains; of course you need to be very experienced and with good reserves of money: in these days nothing is predictable, and in any moment you can suffer big losses.
Of course, even big gains.
I know that most people are worried because Bitcoin’s price rate has been falling heavily recently. But this is not something to be worried about, except if you’re a newbie, as for the old members, it’s already a normal thing and is something we have been experiencing for a long time cause it had been happening. If you already made loss, I will advise you not to withdraw the money invested, keep and very soon your patience will start paying off. Even before this dip, maybe people has already predicted that price will fall and take a correction, and they also said it will rise back, so there’s nothing to be worried about.
829  Economy / Economics / Re: Inheriting Cryptos on: February 03, 2018, 04:15:37 AM
If coins are irrevocably lost that actually increases the
value of all the coins that are still in circulation. You could even view dying with your coins
as a contribution to the cause of your fellow Bitcoin holders.

There are estimations that more than 4-5 million Bitcoin are effectively lost or
unaccessible, which would imply that the actual available supply of Bitcoin is
effectively only 16M BTC instead of 21M BTC if all coins will be mined in the future.

Besides, I think that it is inevitable that methods will emerge that allow you
to safely pass on your cryptocurrency holdings to your children or your loved ones.
You are right in the case of lost coins increasing the price rate of Bitcoin,  that’s absolutely right. But as for a way to inherit Bitcoin?  That will be impossible,  and if there happens to be a way for doing that,  criminals might see it as an opportunity to steal more from people. People should just write down every information about their wallet and store it somewhere safe.

Should there not be a mechanism allowing the inheritance of coins which have not be transferred during life to ones loved one? If someone is to pass and not provide the access to their wallets these coins are forever lost.
If you trust any member of your family,  maybe you should let them know about your business you're doing in Bitcoin and also let them have access to it,  if you are very sure that they can be trusted with such information. That's why I do like a business that is being done by a group of people,  cause if anyone of them passes, and the others can be trusted,  then they will give everything that belongs to the late member to the family member that should inherit them.
830  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading strategies on: February 02, 2018, 06:47:07 PM
Study techinical analysis if your serious to learn efficient trading. Otherwise, hold some coin for a very long time.

For my opinion TA not working on cryptocurrency market.
Technical Analysis do work for some crypto-currencies too according to me. There are a lot of coins which are engaged with some technical work or some personality and the price varies on their activity so a perfect TA can be studied in such case and can be proved to be profitable. rest of the crypto-currency markets depend upon the demand and supply factor and the price growth is changes by the increasing demand in the circulation. Also I would prefer to hold coins for long term as holding each coin for long term can give us good profits in the future as the price for each coin will surely grow in the future.
831  Economy / Economics / Re: Another Good news about bitcoin on: February 02, 2018, 11:03:59 AM
Why do you have put your bitcoin in a bank. It will defeat the purpose of decentralization. Now, you have your wallet wherein you all have the control on what to do with it. You don't have to go to that bank and pay transaction fees again. That bank is made to cash in on cryptocurrency.
The funniest part about life is that people have the best at their disposal and they still keep looking for something they really do not need. We are all running away from the bank/exchanges and then someone is still very happy putting their bitcoin in a so called bitcoin bank as they are so calling it. This is an old project though, and I am not even sure how they are faring now but as long as my wallet is doing the job for me which I know it will forever do, then I have no business with any bitcoin bank. Moreover, why call it a bank when you can just use exchange, there are so many of them already and we all know how leaving your asset in an exchange sucks.
832  Economy / Economics / Re: 99% of the people still think that fiat money are better than crypto on: February 02, 2018, 09:21:36 AM
Fiat money can be used in all places in a country, bitcoin cant be used everywhere, that is the one that making fiat money more efficient, but if you want to do transaction to another country then the best way without converting is through crypto, crypto offered a new way of payment and it is so easy to used, if bitcoin can be spend everywhere I think people will used crypto for payment
Fiat is better than cryptocurrency, it is the real money we make use of, and is widely accepted, not just everywhere, but by everyone. They can be used offline and online, and you can use them to buy whatever you need. When you buy Bitcoin, you make use of fiat, so that means that that is much better. Bitcoin is good, but you can’t compare it with fiat cause it’s an digital asset for the purpose of investment.
I don’t know why some people keep posting this…it makes no sense at all, and piss me off a lot. How can you be expecting everyone in the world to be making use of cryptocurrencies ?

Just because they have access to the internet doesn’t mean they should be using Bitcoin. Some people are doctors, and they are much busy than you can ever be, so you shouldn’t expect them to use the slightest chance they have for Bitcoin, while they have other reasons for being online. Everybody can’t be traders.
833  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrencies aren't anonymous anymore on: February 02, 2018, 08:25:38 AM
What a clickbait title ! Anonymity is not leaving Bitcoin ! You can still buy your bitcoins with cash and get covered without any problem ! Only sale is monitored on South Korean exchanges, which represent, let me remind you, a very minor part of the world volume.
And some exchanges that implemented the KYC compliance policy, title is a self-explanatory that cryptocurrency is no anonymous yet the Op stated some facts from a country who pulled off some exchanges to support the thread, it is not the coins itself who are not anonymous, you can still perform transactions not just in bitcoin but on any other coins as long as it is not requiring some information anonymously, some multi-platform web wallets and local exchanges already implemented this compliance in order to eliminate abuses.
Even bitcoin itself is pseudo anonymous and obviously, you can still stay anonymous as long as you want to. Like you said, what OP is getting wrong is that this is not about cryptocurrencies but about exchanges.

If government is going to be doing any regulation, that balls down on exchanges and as long as anyone feel they can stay out of exchange, spend their crypto without converting to fiat, which at least for now, unless you are purchasing something from a crypto enthusiast, it is impossible to do. So with that, I guess we are bound to exchanges and regulations.
834  Economy / Economics / Re: Taxes and crypto. on: February 02, 2018, 07:41:37 AM
I don't mind paying taxes for the government. The only problem I see is that I don't know where my taxes are going. In my country, there are too much corruption and the taxes are already high (around 30%). That's why I dig my hands on crypto to stay away from the prying eyes of the government. But with all the regulations around crypto around the world, it will be just a matter of time before everyone of us started to pay taxes with our crypto earnings, specially converting it to fiat. If I know that the money that I'm paying is going to be for let say health care or education. But if its just going to the wallet of corrupt politicians, I would rather hold my bitcoins for a long time.
I can see how much everyone is pouring out their bitterness here. It is crazy isn't it ?

How the regular people are the ones doing the chunk of the job, paying taxes with nothing being given back to them and then now when we found a way to rub back their shit on them, they want us to pay capital gain tax on the crypto I have worked for ?

They can stick their fiat in the butts, I do not care. I am going to be holding and believing that one day, I can easily just tell fiat system to go screw itself.
835  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you trade? on: January 31, 2018, 02:37:14 PM
How do you trade? Do you still follow the buy low and sell high? Are you still looking on the charts to predict the future value of the coin? Or Do you just use your instinct and trade base on the volume?  Some people are still panicking if their coins go dip and just sell it before they lose greater sum of money. People whose enemy is their own emotions. For me I am studying the charts of the coins which has a high potential to pump even though I'm not sure if it woll really pump. If not, I'm just holding it until it does. I am controlling my emotions and think calmly so that I can resuce the mistakes that I may done with my decisions. How about you?
These days the price varies not much and also the price is not much up these days so I have some small profits but trading for short terms and buying and selling my coins daily. Yes, even now I follow the buy low and sell high as it is the basic mototivation behind trading. Each individual involved with trading follows the same and goes profitable for the future. Holding the coins is yet that effective and gives good profit.

Patience matters a lot into trading as panic sell can really cause a huge loss. I usually set a daily target for me to sell the coins for now as it really gives me effective profits daily. I just sell my coins at a good price when they are high and again purchase the coin once the price is back to normal and hold the coin to sell at a good pump again.
836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Financial freedom, is it possible in 1-2 years? on: January 30, 2018, 03:45:27 PM
I wouldn't recommend anyone to quit their day job to become a crypto trader with 200 dollars, it's crazy and the chances of failure are just too big.
Trading is something you could easily do on the side, after your work or in the weekends.
Yes, it is always better to have two different income stream so keeping trading as a part-time after regular job must be the right choice for the any crypto user. There could be many exceptions but I'm talking of the point of myself and based on my schedule and my time availability.

Once you have started earning consistently, then maybe you can start thinking of making it your full time employment.
But making consistent performance with trading will be too hard because even professional traders also making losses with their trading time to time. But, having a day job will be having no risk compared to depending only on our trading performances. So, I'm not suggesting anyone to go for full-time trading at any circumstance.
837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The END is NEAR! on: January 24, 2018, 03:24:18 PM
Yeah, Amazon supporting crypto would definitely bring awareness to masses, but I think it won`t happen this February, they will wait for crypto to be regulated. Also, right now Bitcoin isn`t suitable for payments, unless Lightning happens in February (no chance until next year). Catchy title for this thread, almost like click biting online news  Cheesy
Yes, whenever big companies deciding to start adopting crypto currency payments then we can expect big leap for crypto currency market levels. But that could not be an end for cheaper crypto currencies because these markets are highly known for fluctuations hence anything may happen in near future for getting us another opportunity to buy for cheaper prices. In the past we have seen these so many times, so why not we cannot expect another one after Amazon kind of market giants start accepting cryptocurrencies.

At the same time, now we cannot expect to buy bitcoin for $5000 or even for $9000. Similarly after big changes into price levels we cannot expect altcoins for cheaper prices. Those big changes may happen at any time like when some government legalizing crypto currencies or market giants accepting crypto currencies.
838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Relationships! on: January 20, 2018, 02:12:24 PM
you don't blame gambling for people's addiction. Each has his own decision making and whether you'll be addiced or not will mostly be up to you. I can understand if some religion doesn't allow gambling ever since, but a person has to be responsible for the results of his actions.
All human actions are based on their own preferences given that he is 18+ aged. Because only after that age he is capable of thinking in multiple ways and to foresee what are the consequence he may face for his actions. Gambling must be one of the action and it should be done only based on personal preferences and should not be due to some other suggestions/compulsion.

I am always playing gambling in a manner it should not affect any of my relationship. Because I value my relationships more than anything else hence I will not let gambling to affect it. Still, in some unfortunate situations gambling impacted my relationship but those were the situations which helped me to understand the real dangers of gambling.
839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler's mindset! on: January 20, 2018, 01:47:37 PM
I have tried to think what goes through my mind when ever I am trying to place a bet. I think something strange do happen to me and that is I always have this thinking that what if I lose, how am I going to feel! I have never want to lose in my mind I want to win always but I think this is impossible. Gamblers here did you always want to win all your bet? If you win all how will the gambling company makes profits?

Simple. You won't win all and you'll lose. There's no other option here. It's foolish to start gambling and expecting to win all the time. All gamblers should be aware that they can lose money more than they can win so its best not to put up your expectations that much when you gamble
When a person is getting start with gambling, he will be having more belief to make his fortune from gambling.
With that kind of mindset, we cannot expect a gambler to avoid getting into gambling. Their expectation is the driving force there and that force usually getting them into disasters other than fulfilling their expectation.

Only when gamblers are thinking maturely and avoiding gambling or making use of gambling only for the purpose of getting pleasure then their mindset will help them to find the actual use of gambling.
840  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin versus other offline currencies on: January 20, 2018, 01:01:06 PM
Unlike traditional cash, the supply of bitcoins is not controlled by any central government. Instead, an algorithm developed by the founders of bitcoin (or later, more founders) determines how many bitcoins are produced each year and adds them to the world economy. Unlike fiat money, the supply of fiat money is determined by the central bank's decision to print. Bitcoin is a currency based on algorithmic supply rules.
There are number of things which are far better in bitcoin compared to that of other regular currency. The first and the most common thing is that none of the regular currency is having this much of worth as we can see in case of bitcoin. Moreover, none of the regular currency can help you in making this much of money by simply holding that currency as you can get while holding your bitcoins.
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