Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
The SatoshiDice answer was there just to be funny. Discounting it, only <10% said no, so it looks like people want a payout. <10% as no is a very low number seeing as anyone can vote. People who aren't invested would have more reason for saying no. I think we want our BTC  So am I correct that it will be calculated by taking the final/current investor holdings spreadsheet, adding up the total, and then finding each investor's % of the total. Then multiplying that % by the 430-440 BTC and paying them out the result? Okay it seems like we will do a payout  For anyone unhappy with this contact me and I am sure we can reach some sort of compromise. To the rest a payout will be done today or tomorrow, It will indeed be done by calculating each investors total % of the fund and then paying out a proportionate amount to the 430 BTC. //DeaDTerra Have the coins been sent? Thanks! They have yet to be sent as I reached the withdraw limit on MtGox, so I will have to wait 24 hours to take out the BTC that's left. Payout should be today though. //DeaDTerra |
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Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
The SatoshiDice answer was there just to be funny. Discounting it, only <10% said no, so it looks like people want a payout. <10% as no is a very low number seeing as anyone can vote. People who aren't invested would have more reason for saying no. I think we want our BTC So am I correct that it will be calculated by taking the final/current investor holdings spreadsheet, adding up the total, and then finding each investor's % of the total. Then multiplying that % by the 430-440 BTC and paying them out the result? Okay it seems like we will do a payout For anyone unhappy with this contact me and I am sure we can reach some sort of compromise. To the rest a payout will be done today or tomorrow, It will indeed be done by calculating each investors total % of the fund and then paying out a proportionate amount to the 430 BTC. //DeaDTerra |
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I am absolutely against putting our money into SatoshiDice.
DeadTerra, when you will do first payouts? Since I invested into this fund couple of months ago, I haven't seen even single bitcoin coming back to me.
I am as well. We are deciding in that right now, We have about 430-440 Bitcoins that could be paid out if a majority of the investors wants to go that way. //DeaDTerra |
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DeadTerra,
When are you going to follow through on your promise to release the scammer (Ziggi/Crazy) passport and ID scans?
For what reason has that action been delayed thus far?
This information has already been released, please do you research before you open you mouth thanks //DeaDTerra I re-read this entire thread and did not see that information. Since you made the promise in this thread, shouldn't you also follow through here as well? Or is a snotty put-down all us investors who you ripped off deserve now? A simple search on the forums will give you the answer, or check my post history. Give respect and you will get respect, you have been rude and ignorant before. I have never ripped anyone off, I have never broken a contract or a promise. //DeaDTerra |
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Jag är fortfarande intresserad av att köpa Bitcoins, antingen via Bank överföring eller via Kontanter.
//DeaDTerra
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Prices has been updated //DeaDTerra |
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I personally feel like a dice roll is a stupid idea tbh.
One could argue GLBSE is a stupid idea, tbh. Indeed, one could even argue it is a more stupid act then rolling a dice as the odds are unknown hence it can have even worse risk to profit ratio. //DeaDTerra |
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If there is a payout, how will you know whom to pay how much?!
Also, which game on Satoshi's Dice should actually be played?
All payment will be done proportionally to the total amount in the fund. I have complete records off all the investors //DeaDTerra |
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I think that keystroke's poll is very entertaining, but this isn't just a poll for GBF investors, any bitcointalk forum members can vote.
The result must not be taken as any kind of indication of the wishes of GBF investors.
Of course those with either no, or very small, investment find the prospect of a roll of the dice appealing.
I would prefer a payout, but a part of me thinks the Satoshi dice option is probably more appropriate given the increasingly farcical nature of this fund.
from Wikipedia:
"a farce is a comedy which aims at entertaining the audience by means of unlikely, extravagant, and improbable situations, disguise and mistaken identity, verbal humor of varying degrees of sophistication, which may include word play, and a fast-paced plot whose speed usually increases, culminating in an ending which often involves an elaborate chase scene. Farces are often highly incomprehensible plot-wise (due to the large number of plot twists and random events that often occur), but viewers are encouraged not to try to follow the plot in order to avoid becoming confused and overwhelmed. "
That's true, I did not take that into consideration when the statement was made. I will take it into consideration when the final decision is made but not as an absolute fact. I personally feel like a dice roll is a stupid idea tbh. Payout it probably what I will end up doing, as I feel that people have waited long enough and as this wait seem to be even longer a small payout is the least I can do. Indeed, This is getting quite ridiculous. //DeaDTerra |
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Please only vote if you are a holder of Gamma Fund. Thanks!
(This is an informal poll, DT will be making the final decision but as of yet no criteria has been decided to determine when we are going to be paid and I am trying to move things along.)
I will honor the polls results, If a majority of the investors wants me to pay out now, I will payout the liquidated amount proportionally. //DeaDTerra But it's not only investors that can vote here... Hm that's true, hence we can't assume that only investors vote. Non the less a decision has to be made so I will take this poll into account. //DeaDTerra |
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HUGE thank you to SatoshiDice for their donation of 402.33 BTC to the Bitcoin Foundation. Cheers!
Agreed, thanks Erik! That's a impressive amount for only one days profits Good job!, we should have this Bitcoin Friday more often ^^ //DeaDTerra |
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Please only vote if you are a holder of Gamma Fund. Thanks!
(This is an informal poll, DT will be making the final decision but as of yet no criteria has been decided to determine when we are going to be paid and I am trying to move things along.)
I will honor the polls results, If a majority of the investors wants me to pay out now, I will payout the liquidated amount proportionally. //DeaDTerra |
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I'm very much in favour of paying out what little there is now.
The 450 or so left now would give everyone back around 6% of their "investment".
That's better than nothing when this unpredictable bot eats it or something.
Then I think any other money should be paid out as soon as it's recovered.
Can we please get some opinions in here and put an end to this sad farce?
Agreed, I would like to be paid out ASAP. My friend who is has a decent sum invested agreed with me - he is busy with school or would post here as well. I can probably get him to email DT directly. (Writing him now so he can confirm this through a private email) Since so many people are quiet -- is there anyone who really wants us to keep waiting more months and months? Aside from the one guy who wants to bet it all on Satoshi Dice - I would rather do that honestly than keep waiting Although I am sure he said it tongue in cheek ;P Then again, who knows! Edit: I added a poll here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124180.0I will honor whatever the poll results will be. //DeaDTerra |
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DeadTerra,
When are you going to follow through on your promise to release the scammer (Ziggi/Crazy) passport and ID scans?
For what reason has that action been delayed thus far?
This information has already been released, please do you research before you open you mouth thanks //DeaDTerra |
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Sigh. My monies...
I got an idea. How about we put it all on Satoshi Dice. Just one bet. I'm in if everyone else is in.
That sounds like a very bad idea as the odds are against us gaining on such a bet, that's gambling and it's a gamble when the odds are not even in your favor  I will do my best to find,claim and liquidate the asset that we have left, unfortunately this process will be a lot slower then originally thought due to the massive delays with GLBSE. //DeaDTerra |
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Any word on this? It has now been 42 days since the fund was closed. Have those 400 coins made a profit or are they in limbo? I would like for them to be paid out. Does anyone object?
I have yet to hear a clear opinions if you guys wish to have the coins paid out. Another alternative is to pay out 50% and keep 50% in the bot? That would be the best compromise according to me. //DeaDTerra I think we could form a clear opinion if we had some info on current profits coming from the bot. If there's no money to be made in arbitrage right now then the coins might as well be paid out. Approximately 5 Bitcoins has been made since we started investing in the bots. 5 Bitcoins for about two weeks of 400 BTC investment. I also want to add that the bot performance changes dramatically depending on several factors of the market, hence it's very hard to make a general assumption for the profit of the bot. Right now I have 423,97 Bitcoins amd 347$ that belongs to the fund. //DeaDTerra |
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Just to clarify, I was genuinely an idiot and for some reason was mixed up about where I put my bitcoins. I wasn't drawing any comparisons, and I am glad that you're going to act to get what coins you can back to us.
haha it's fine Well at the moment things is starting to look a bit dire, James has not responded to anyone for several days ( from what I can patch together by the forum posts), which is making me a bit nervous if we are ever going to see the light of the GLBSE documents. //DeaDTerra Wow! Unbelievable! It would still be nice to divide those 400 coins up though. Everyone's vote should not be equal, the votes should be based on the percent of the fund they hold Hope all is well in Sweden! Cancel that I just talked to James! He had run out of credits on his phone ^^ that's why he couldn't call me. I didn't learn that much but my update can be found here: Disclaimer, I am not here to fight about anything, I am not here to tell you what's wrong or what's right or get into any argument. I am done with that. I am here to share what I have been told by Nefario. If you want to listen, listen if not, I won't force you.
This is the situation described to me by Nefario.
Right now about 50% of the double payments has been sent back.
The script for the payout is still broken and James is working to fix it, so that it doesn't send any more double spendings and so that it takes the double spendings into account.
Nefario, is suggesting that if the double spendings are not returned then your account info will not be included in the asset information/list until the payment is sent back.
He could not give me a ETA but it seems like once the script for the payment is fully function, the rest of the payments should follow shortly.
note:(I am not sure of the actual system of asset claim, if it will be a code system similar to the one Goat was given or if it will be a list of information)
I will answer any questions that I feel like and I will ignore the rest.
//DeaDTerra
Once we decide to pay out the payouts will indeed be proportional, as for the voting it seems like a majority isn't really following this thread so closely. So I decided to wait until the general opinion was clearer. All is good in Sweden, a bit sleep deprived from the travel home but otherwise I am all good thanks for asking. //DeaDTerra Any word on this? It has now been 42 days since the fund was closed. Have those 400 coins made a profit or are they in limbo? I would like for them to be paid out. Does anyone object? I have yet to hear a clear opinions if you guys wish to have the coins paid out. Another alternative is to pay out 50% and keep 50% in the bot? That would be the best compromise according to me. //DeaDTerra |
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Here are the October numbers:
Income statement for Oct, 2012
Production (in BTC) +630.091
Sale of equip. -
Expenses -184.50
Dividends paid -150.00 (held in trust)
Net income 295.591
Any contact with Nefario? (DeaDTerra has his phone number available to asset issuers) several e-mails. No phone contact attempted yet. I am not going to waste my time until I hear from other operators that Nefario is providing something to anyone. The contact I have had with him is pretty minimum and he hasn't given out any new information. He can't give me a ETA or much of a progress report. //DeaDTerra |
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I don't think I will be able to make it as it crashes with my plans to go to DreamHack ^^
//DeaDTerra
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