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821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AAA] AltSheets AltFolio Asset (preANN = asset research, designing details) on: March 22, 2015, 01:38:03 PM
Thanks for your interest!

please explain how to buy this asset on Hz assets exchange,..
You can not - yet.

what your account id
I will contact you as soon as I launch this.

Right now, I am in the preparation phase,
I am still studying all the other assets,
to find the best possible, educated decisions
for my own assets.

Preliminary ...
... description: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=981128.msg10775284#msg10775284
... goals: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=981128.msg10777540#msg10777540
... dividends: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=981128.msg10824423#msg10824423

Soon I will launch!

Until then: Why not try the software itself.

822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: AltFolio - price-updated (from 8 exchanges & CMC) ALTcoin PortFOLIO Overview on: March 22, 2015, 01:20:02 PM
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823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: HZ/NXT assetparser.py on: March 21, 2015, 09:53:03 PM
for sharing on facebook

- picture of full resolution - preview table : https://www.facebook.com/altsheets/posts/1562574097331485

- picture of tweet: https://www.facebook.com/altsheets/posts/1562573010664927
824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AAA] AltSheets AltFolio Asset - assetparser.py preview on: March 21, 2015, 09:44:20 PM
assetparser.py
Make sure you have all the available information  before  you invest into an asset.

I have created an assetparser.py to analyze the existing asset markets on HZ and NXT.
It is intended to help me to analyze the situation better when creating my own asset.


The first results are out there, in form of a teaser table. May this information be useful for your trading!


retweet please: https://twitter.com/altsheets/status/579393281290829824 Thx ;-)
825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: AltFolio - price-updated (from 8 exchanges & CMC) ALTcoin PortFOLIO Overview on: March 21, 2015, 09:42:08 PM
assetparser.py
Make sure you have all the available information  before  you invest into an asset.

I have created an assetparser.py to analyze the existing asset markets on HZ and NXT.
It is intended to help me to analyze the situation better when creating my own asset.


The first results are out there, in form of a teaser table. May this information be useful for your trading!


retweet please: https://twitter.com/altsheets/status/579393281290829824 Thx ;-)
826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: HZ/NXT assetparser.py on: March 21, 2015, 09:39:19 PM


retweet please: https://twitter.com/altsheets/status/579393281290829824 Thx ;-)
827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: HZ/NXT assetparser.py on: March 21, 2015, 08:02:36 PM
assetparser.py
Make sure you have all the available information  before  you invest into an asset.

column explanations

____________________________
IDNever trust only an asset “name” - the name needs not be unique;
only the ID assures you are trading in the right market!
number of tradessimple count of trades since the asset was born, until today.
Sum of Trades (HZ)sum (price*amount) over all those trades = total HZ volume since asset was born.total volume of all HZ asset trades is ~1/8 billion HZ
Sum of Trades (#assets)sum (amount) over all trades.
weighted mean price (HZ/asset)traded HZ total / traded assets total number = mean price
(with large trades counting more than small trades).
Oldest pricefirst ever recorded price (i.e. could be the IPO price).
Newest pricelast ever recorded price (this is close to what you have to pay per asset now).
MaxPrice / oldestPriceMaximum factor of what initial buyer could have gained
(if he had sold at the price maximum = luckiest).
oldestPrice / MinPriceMaximum factor of what an initial buyer could have lost
(if he had sold at the price minimum = unluckiest).
Sum of Trades, BTC approx.(*)Assuming constant 0.00000120 BTC/HZ
(which is a pretty good assumption over the whole time, but definitely not correct).
total volume of all HZ asset trades is ~150 BTC
Sum of Trades, USD approx.(*)Assuming constant 300 USD/BTC
(which is a pretty good assumption over the whole time, but definitely not correct).
total volume of all HZ asset trades more than 40,000 US-$
828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: March 21, 2015, 07:59:52 PM
how much volume do asset market have? anyones know?

So what other HZ assets are available besides NHZsphere (discontinued I guess) NHZdoge, and HZE?
I have an answer for you:


(this is just a preview of a few columns ... I have harvested more valuable information ...)

For more info about this, see my new thread 998804 "assetparser.py"

HTH
:-)


829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / HZ/NXT: assetparser.py >40 columns per asset | shareholders.py inner circle PM on: March 21, 2015, 07:54:02 PM

shareholders.py "inner circle PM"
This brand new tool is interesting for every Asset issuer: Connect better with your shareholders - send an encrypted message with a personalized password to a closed web area.
A new tool to reach out to my 17 shareholders, to celebrate the 1 month birthday of AAssetHZ. See the program output, or homepage

assetparser.py
Make sure you have all the available information  before  you invest into an asset.

preview 2015 March 21st:

I am parsing the HZ & NXT blockchains to find out more about all traded assets.

  • The above is just a preview. There are more columns, and rows.
  • And similiar information for Nxt - where I could find out more (because of the newer API)!

I can sell you the full information, or even the python script that generates the information.

Contact me with your offer.


And/Or:
N.B.: Put this under my "GiveBack-license v02" --> http://altsheets.ddns.net/give = feel free to donate


IMPORTANT ADDENDUM: Automatically generated data, with no human intervention, censoring, etc. What is on the blockchain, got reported. Do not perceive as recommendations to buy or to sell, etc. - Always do your own research before you buy anything. A BLACKLIST (#22) was suggested - but even that will not be able to always protect you.
830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: March 21, 2015, 04:10:47 PM
Does HZ keep all the historical order data, anyways?
...
I am asking because to access that historical order data is my workaround to get the 'seller' of a trade.
...
Storing all derived objects in the database was introduced with NXT 1.3.x
Current HZ is based on NXT 1.2.9
Thanks a lot. That had made me hope that in HZ -other than in Nxt- the historical order data might still be accessible. But it's not? I don't know how to continue from here, with the old version. My WORKAROUND sounded feasible, until I realized that relevant historical data is also disappeared from HZ. Let me show you...

When downloading the first 20 assets, there are 324 trades, with 135 unique orders.

Only 11 orders make no problems, examples:

http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=10655238247608520102 timestamp=7821230 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=16959519049444729662
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=14027245553053047036 timestamp=17561202 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=7917523547410995253
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=14027245553053047036 timestamp=29083199 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=13410371402375493233
...
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=6902084659337863977 timestamp=23450541 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=892259609315602338
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=6902084659337863977 timestamp=23554531 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=892259609315602338

= in the form (getTrades request --> timestamp of the problematic trade --> getAskOrder request)


but 124 orders (used in 291 trades) cannot be found - examples:

http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=11612505588273826616 timestamp=11416126 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=1423320669884458932
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=11612505588273826616 timestamp=11921573 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=1423320669884458932
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=13033239985357258960 timestamp=11922098 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=8495635304104656779
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=14027245553053047036 timestamp=16663451 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=12723782891583851504
...
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=9793548316182050576 timestamp=14490672 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=9819437091123559436
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=9793548316182050576 timestamp=14757232 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=9819437091123559436

all resulting in {"errorDescription":"Unknown order","errorCode":5}

What to do?

TLDR; Why do I do this?
The v1.2.9 "getTrade" does not mention the "seller" (like the v1.4.16 does, with every trade),
so I download the "askOrder" that is mentioned in the trade,
by "getAskOrder", because that contains "account"
- and thus the "seller".

Or is there another strategy?

Thx!
831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: March 20, 2015, 11:54:04 PM
Does HZ keep all the historical order data, anyways?

Or is the
           nhz.trimDerivedTables=false
also an option in HZ ?


... like the
          nxt.trimDerivedTables=false
is supposed to make the historical order data reappear?

I am asking because to access that historical order data is my workaround to get the 'sender' of a trade.
And I cannot find a nhz.trimDerivedTables in conf/nhz-default.properties

832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: March 20, 2015, 09:17:37 PM
Update on next client update: We are just finishing up the last GUI bug fixes and the update will be released.
Cool. Looking forward to that!

Perhaps it is still time for a last-second improvement?
I suggest a small GUI change that might help some newbs - because it improves the intuitive approach.

When starting a new NHZ account, what to do?

For a while I was a bit confused. This is what I originally did ... to get a new NHZ account:

(1) I invent my own password (*), and put it into "Your Horizon Passphrase",
(2) then press "click here to create a new horizon account"

(3) I write down the generated passphrase (##)
(4) I paste (##) into "IN ORDER TO BE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SAVED IT,..."

When
(5) I log out, and log back in, using (##) - then all is cool, I come back to the same NHZ address.

But when
(6) I log out, and log back in, using my own password (*), I end up with a completely different NHZ-... address.

Hmmm ... Why? What is my password (*) good for then?



(7) After a while then, I realized, that my Step (1) above was completely ignored
when I pressed the "click here to create a new horizon account".
*slap*my*forehead*with*my*hand* :-)


--> IMHO: The button "click here to create a new horizon account"
does not belong near to that "Your Horizon Passphrase" / "remember passphrase during session"
- and especially not together into a bright layout box.

Because now the layout suggests a causal connection.

I would also recommend the same for NXT  (place the button elsewhere) - but it's less likely to be misunderstood as they have not also put a suggestive bright box around those two unrelated functions.


Idea: Place the "new horizon account" button somewhere else.

?Perhaps above the logo, perhaps at the top right of the page?


833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: AltFolio - price-updated (from 8 exchanges & CMC) ALTcoin PortFOLIO Overview on: March 20, 2015, 08:55:57 PM
On diaspora now (diasp.eu pod): https://diasp.eu/people/84e1e620b16d01321e8f5404a6b20780

834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: March 20, 2015, 06:31:15 PM
Anything else?

Yes.

http://localhost:7776/test --> click javadoc --> HTTP ERROR: 404 Problem accessing /doc/nhz/http/.... Reason:  Not Found

835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: March 20, 2015, 06:17:50 PM
A seller has an asset and asks for a price with an AskOrder.
A buyer wants to buy an asset and bid a price with a BidOrder.
If a sale occurs then the asset of the seller is transferred to the buyer.
Thanks a lot for clearing that up. Then I can try to implement my question now.

All your guesses are correct, except:
Or is that called the Bid?
*Hahaha* I love your style.

836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: AltFolio - price-updated (from 8 exchanges & CMC) ALTcoin PortFOLIO Overview on: March 20, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
The BitcoinGarden twitter invited me to BitcoinGarden.tk to present my product there.

... and tweeted about it, which is causing quite some retweets. Very happy!

(TODO: Screenshot)
837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: March 20, 2015, 12:35:12 AM
... Until your upgrade ... I need to build my own workaround, to find the "sender" of a trade.


I guess the only way to find out would be while reading all trades, then also reading all mentioned ASK orders, right?
(Do I understand correctly? the AskOrder is published by the 'sender' of the ASSET? So the original ASSET owner was the one who put the AskOrder, and when the trade happens he gets HZ and gives away some of his ASSET? Or is that called the Bid?)

{"trades": [{
...
          "askOrder":    "ASK",
          "bidOrder":     "BID"
...}]}

Here is an example with only 6 trades: http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=14524494726253439285
and -as far as I understand it- all assets in those 6 trades originate from the same askOrder:

askOrder: "13535374938540622495"

Now I can get http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=13535374938540622495

{
quantityQNT: "99999974"
priceNQT: "10000000"
accountRS: "NHZ-Y3AL-KLCC-UWLQ-4VCCS"
asset: "14524494726253439285"
type: "ask"
account: "3182175271062013202"
order: "13535374938540622495"
height: 156318
}

and find the 'sender' as 'account' here?

The "sender" of this transaction was "3182175271062013202" - right?


Thanks a million!

And sorry that I have to ask so many questions. But I think what I am building will be useful not only for myself ... and I want to be sure to make few mistakes.

 Wink





838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HZ] Horizon Long + Fair Distribution|Decentralized Asset Exchange on: March 20, 2015, 12:34:16 AM
What is the best way to list all transfers of an asset?
[...]
Currently there is no better way. Next major release will include new API call 'GetAssetTransfers'.
Ah, alright. Thanks a lot! Good to know, that I then did the right thing ;-) I am starting to understand the system, I guess - at least from the outside of this (quite amazing) API interface.
Is there an ETA for the next major release?
We don't give exact dates.
I understand that.

It's been worked on.
Nice!

And I am curious: Will HZ jump all the way to the current NXT version (from 1.2.9 to 1.4.16), or will the HZ fork go down a different path?

If you choose the first path, then this hope is answered implicitly:

Please include the new 'getTrades' function because the answer contains 'sender'.
In the old HZ that is not part of the answer ...

839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: AltSheets AltFolio - tweet 05 on: March 19, 2015, 06:21:09 PM


Please retweet: https://twitter.com/altsheets/status/578620265376190464 Thx ;-)
840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: AltSheets AltFolio - dev update on: March 19, 2015, 05:50:44 PM
DEV UPDATE

Just an update on some of the activities outside this "AltFolio Software" thread 978804:



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