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821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 05, 2017, 07:23:10 AM
In gambling we just know about two things
These are
Win or lose
But the question is when you do betting
You always lose
Not always, sometimes you win  Smiley

You do realize about it but why we still go through on betting place?!!!
I like to gamble. I like to take chance and try to win some money without hard work  Grin

Apologoze if my topic have already exist it just about my interesting about your opinion about my experiences
Well, i think you have good opinion, my overall stats are negative. But still i will take my chance and try to beat casino  Grin
Hahaha have a good luck ! Cause when u decided to still have a willing to beating casino, i am sure you are a man whose have a large fund
Dont be late to take a bet
822  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][TKS]TOKES Platform ICO | Blazing the Blockchain |CannabisRevolution.us on: February 05, 2017, 03:06:12 AM
itu yang bounty signature campaign yang walletnya ijo udah dikirim apa yang di terima ya gan,kok ngga semua wallet ijo
Kayanya bukan udah di kirim deh tapi kayanya itu cuman buat siapa yang udah mengkonfirmasi address 2x berturut'' dan posting di official thread bounty nya, tapi tau sih lagi ya.
wah bagus juga nih tokes sebagai tanda maaf Tokes kasih rewards tambahan Cheesy moga lumayan aja harganya dan bisa panen yg ikutan bountynya
Lah jadi harus kirim PM atau pos address waves lagi ? punya saya semua udah ok gak ada masalah di list
gak tahu lebih jelas nya sih om, nah akun bunsin saya sendiri kirim address baru sekali udah ijo tau juga sih kenapa, pas liat stetment dari manager tokes nya, nah di sebutin nama yang harus kirim ulang address nama saya gak ada disitu ya brrti bisa di katakan aman aja
823  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]Matchpool -Membuat manusia terhubung on: February 05, 2017, 02:49:23 AM
Ico ini dimulai bulan maret ya gan? tapi kampanye signature campaignya udah dimulai dari sekarang??semoga ico ini sukses dah
Ya, dilaksanakan di akhir bulan dan berlangsung 4 minggu tapi tanggal pastinya belum di umumkan, prediksiku sih akan diumunkan di awal bulan maret. Untuk sig camp udah di mulai dari 2 mingguan yang lalu.
yang jelas valentine ini target market utamanya di paris gan
Jadi nanti di paris ada evennya matchpool dan realese alpha versinya
Info dpet langsung dari co founder y
mantap nih infonya , jadi nanti matchpool akan punya market sendiri ?
klo market sendiri belum gan , cuma di paris aja target awalnya
Mungkin next akan d kembangkan
Jadi di paris itu seperti pengujian Alpha version nya, ato apa bisa di katakan seperti event''/promosi gitu dan sekaligus memperkenalkan platform mereka di hari kasih sayang Grin
Hari Valentine sendiri di tanggal 14 feb ICO mulai di maret berrati mereka pake budget pribadi neh buat promo'' nya entar di paris
bener gk sih maaf ya kalo salah Grin
bener gan pake budget sendiri , malah ada reward 1 btc untuk peserta yg beruntung di even y nanti
Wow om tau banget yak, pasti aktif tanya tanya di slack channel ya om.... Ya kalau memang niat bikin project harus gini promosi pake budget sendiri biar banyak peminant nya.
di slack gg terlalu gan , cuma langsung chat aja telegram sama yonatan co-founder ya  Grin , iseng2 aja nanya sapa tau bisa jadi buat update an isi blog hehe
Iya keren om iqbal26
Wah mantap ya, mudah-mudahan berjalan lancar entar pas pengujian Alpha version nya dan bisa menarik investors untuk berinvestasi, cuman bisa mantau di thread ini msalahnya gak join telegram ataupun slack Cheesy makasih ya info'' nya om iqbal26
824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: February 04, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
The cause of a gambling problem is the individual's failure to control the compulsive behavior. As a result, any type of gambling (racing, bingo, card games, dice games, lottery, slots and sports betting) can become problematic, as can an alcoholic can get drunk on any type of alcohol.
yes we are blaming gambling for being wrong but in fact gambling is not wrong but the way we play gambling is wrong. gambling is not to invest all your money in one time and lose it , you need to play it with strategy, if you have no strategy for gambling and you are playing it in a wrong way then in such situation gambling is not responsible but you are responsible because you are playing it in wrong way.
Yes i agree to what you are saying but gambling isn't build in a way what you are saying. And i agree that a strategy is required before gambling, but i think another most important thing required is a goal that after how much amount we should cashout the money we invested. If a person successfully follows he won't lose in gambling.
He wont lose on gambling?I dont think soo if there are profitable gamblers then they are rare and most of them are losses and thats the reality on gambling but i do agree on what you have said that we should really set a goal or qouta on an amount so that if we already reached that luckily then we should know how to stop.
Well that's not what i meant all i was trying to say is that a person should have a goal or a strategy if he wants to gamble for the purpose of making money. I normally don't use any sort of strategy because i gamble for entertainment only. And yeah i also agree with you that maybe 1-2 out of every 10 gamblers are making profit.
Gambling is simple you dont have to say that this is some kind alcohol or drug or anyothers else which direct to addiction cause you know the means of gambling and of course you have to ready when you'll a bunch of lost or purchase the right moment to be the lucky one
825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contract Platform | Crowdsale March 2017 on: February 04, 2017, 03:00:25 PM
Iconomi made 4x after their release, why don't Qtum make same or even more? Qtum is clearly better than Iconomi, Chronobank and other similar ICO's. Qtum's competition will be against Ethereum. Qtum is offering similar smart contract system but with better ideas. We don't hassle with POW, we go directly with POS.

Here is the important bit of my research. Vitalik is invested in QTUM. We all know that Ethereum is not going to switch to POS ever. QTUM has made their platform compatible with Ethereum's present smart contracts and dapps. So I speculate that a great migration to QTUM will occur simply because it might be more stable, faster and more scalable. The migration will include Vitalik. He will leave Ethereum and declare it a community project.
If i have speculate according to the explanation on Q n A session which told us that qtum already gave the white paper or dealing with vitalik it self i would'nt say that vitalik would leave ethereum because he is the founder of ETH it self and already stand beside Qtum what's into my mine that in the condition vitalik would make an a good dealing which purpose for each project to get a large of profit same like addresing the place of each project

If Vitalik have invested in Qtum it's very good signal to buy that token. Every coin in which Vitalik "invests" will have very good pump  Cheesy . Remember other examples, guys.
If u say vitalik would investing to Qtum i would say that you still unclearly know about what actually qtum and eth plane due the white paper
826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 04, 2017, 02:34:36 PM
There's always hope that you can make it big. If you have been gambling for a while, I'm sure you've had that one long run of good fortune which has close to unbelievable but then u did something stupid to lose it all. We just try to get that run again and hopefully you won't need it up. Only to find out you've had that great run again and you've messed it up again Cry . So this always keeps you interested in gambling and you think you will reach that crazy run again and this time actually do good with it.
Nope for me I haven't won anything till now from gambling.  But yeah I agree with you most of the people gamble to win big but that in other words is greed. The best way to not lose anything in gambling is that you should gamble or gamble the money yoy can afford to lose.

Well you win i think not once or twice you win but you dont notice but we could say that some of the gamblers win bigger than us. Peoples greed is their biggest problem thats why they loose pretty much. As my self though i lost i do play because of the entertainment that it gives to me
This true there are really gamblers that do win big amounts because they do bet huge amounts too that's why.Greediness is really part of human nature and we cant really avoid that thing specially when we are talking about money greed will surely come out that's why we should know how to control it.
Well that's the biggest problem gamblers are facing they don't control and end up losing high. I am pretty sure they would have some sort of strategy or goal but i still thin they end up breaking that also. As the lessons i have learned or seen from other people i think the best way of not getting addicted to gambling is to not get into gambling in the first place.
No i thnk there is other way that you can prevent your self to stay and addicted in gambling.. just gamble what you can afford to lose . and i think many gamblers here are actually can control their self if they are lose they can stop and enough for their entertainment..
People who are targeting profit those people who are losing a lot until they are want to recover all his loses..
Well well lets say that we do have our main opinion which decide by ourselves
Because as i see according to my experiences when we do as newbie will get a large of profit because in everyday they are collecting a little by little it just about the time when their changing their idea to be someone whose bet everything
827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 04, 2017, 02:27:10 PM
I'm sure it was experienced by all gamblers and was reasonable. I also sometimes experience it but I did not become an addiction that makes a loss. But why do I say that reasonable? Because everyone is playing gambling win or lose will certainly be encouraged to continue playing. If someone wins surely will continue bet to increase win, and if someone lost would definitely bet again to restore lost. So that's what makes us still gamble when you lose.
Reasonable !!! Did you ever imagine that reasonable as you meant same like put everything your own or never bet anymore (take a risk)
There's always hope that you can make it big. If you have been gambling for a while, I'm sure you've had that one long run of good fortune which has close to unbelievable but then u did something stupid to lose it all. We just try to get that run again and hopefully you won't need it up. Only to find out you've had that great run again and you've messed it up again Cry . So this always keeps you interested in gambling and you think you will reach that crazy run again and this time actually do good with it.
Nope for me I haven't won anything till now from gambling.  But yeah I agree with you most of the people gamble to win big but that in other words is greed. The best way to not lose anything in gambling is that you should gamble or gamble the money yoy can afford to lose.

Well you win i think not once or twice you win but you dont notice but we could say that some of the gamblers win bigger than us. Peoples greed is their biggest problem thats why they loose pretty much. As my self though i lost i do play because of the entertainment that it gives to me
Entertainment just like you say is it same like your lucky first touch? Cause that's why i wonder about will it happen again same like the first time i'd try to place a bets
828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] eGaaS: Electronic Government as a Service on: February 04, 2017, 04:26:55 AM
already a member in mercatox then I would like to vote egaas in mercatox because in case i need to sell my egaas, already a long time in wallet lol but as i see only 12 vote so far still need collect a lot of vote for listing, hope there will be a volunteer.
829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves CAT | $1.1m raised | Roll-out Q1 2017 on: February 04, 2017, 03:58:08 AM
LOL you are real? DEV Supported Liqui Scammers.... oh no  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Liqui is legit exchange don't know why people hate them. I personally don't have any issue with them so if INCNT will get listed on it than it should be nice.

Investors do not trust the new exchanges.What does matter is Poloniex and Bittrex it all.
but it doesn't matter i guess, basically the reason is because that a new exchanges, i think that it is common, people are doubt about a new exchanges, but no harm in trying a new exchange while they can be trusted Cheesy
830  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]Matchpool -Membuat manusia terhubung on: February 04, 2017, 02:51:11 AM
Ico ini dimulai bulan maret ya gan? tapi kampanye signature campaignya udah dimulai dari sekarang??semoga ico ini sukses dah
Ya, dilaksanakan di akhir bulan dan berlangsung 4 minggu tapi tanggal pastinya belum di umumkan, prediksiku sih akan diumunkan di awal bulan maret. Untuk sig camp udah di mulai dari 2 mingguan yang lalu.
yang jelas valentine ini target market utamanya di paris gan
Jadi nanti di paris ada evennya matchpool dan realese alpha versinya
Info dpet langsung dari co founder y
mantap nih infonya , jadi nanti matchpool akan punya market sendiri ?
klo market sendiri belum gan , cuma di paris aja target awalnya
Mungkin next akan d kembangkan
Jadi di paris itu seperti pengujian Alpha version nya, ato apa bisa di katakan seperti event''/promosi gitu dan sekaligus memperkenalkan platform mereka di hari kasih sayang Grin
Hari Valentine sendiri di tanggal 14 feb ICO mulai di maret berrati mereka pake budget pribadi neh buat promo'' nya entar di paris
bener gk sih maaf ya kalo salah Grin
831  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][TKS]TOKES Platform ICO | Blazing the Blockchain |CannabisRevolution.us on: February 04, 2017, 02:31:19 AM
itu yang bounty signature campaign yang walletnya ijo udah dikirim apa yang di terima ya gan,kok ngga semua wallet ijo
Kayanya bukan udah di kirim deh tapi kayanya itu cuman buat siapa yang udah mengkonfirmasi address 2x berturut'' dan posting di official thread bounty nya, tapi tau sih lagi ya.
wah bagus juga nih tokes sebagai tanda maaf Tokes kasih rewards tambahan Cheesy moga lumayan aja harganya dan bisa panen yg ikutan bountynya
832  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]Ascendancy: Aplikasi Modul rangka kerja terdesentralisasi-IPO: 27 Jan 2017 on: February 03, 2017, 01:42:34 AM
Apakah karena IPOnya ini terlalu mahal ya sehingga masih sedikit jumlah investasi di IPO saat ini
baru 4 btc totalnya sedangkan sudah hampir semingguan IPOnya berjalan

IPO/ICO coin lain yang lebih mahal banyak gan yang lebih dari 0.0001 btc pun banyak yang dibawahnya banyak juga mungkin bukan karena harganya entah hal apa yang buat para investor gak tertarik buat invest mungkin kurang gencar promonya ketutup oleh IPO/ICO lain yang lebih booming dan populer
yg paling mahal augmentors , tapi dalam 2 hari bisa dapet 500 BTC.
tergantung media promosi dan keunikan ico itu sendiri untuk memancing para investor Smiley
nah iya om iqbal26 pada dasar nya kenapa banyak yang inves mereka melihat dari project itu sendiri, project itu legit gak, yg saya lihat Ascendancy kurang ya peminat nya, tau deh kenapa alasannya, kalo mahal mah kayanya bukan alsan deh, kalo seandainya project nya bagus pasti bakal rame juga investors nya biarpun mahal Grin
833  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO berbasis POS SmartContractPlatform-QAFeb1st Patrick/Earlz/Bo on: February 03, 2017, 01:07:54 AM
wanjirr keren ada 3 situs buat crowdsale nya bakal seru neh kayanya eh ngomong'' nama stus exchanges yang dari cina apa ? , gak ikutan nyimak ke slack jadi gak tau, kalo boleh tau ada info'' penting apa aja lagi om barnes13 ?

Here you go, tolong di koreksi jika saya salah tangkap informasi dari Q&A di slack tadi.  Smiley

  • Crowdsale token Qtum di mulai dari tanggal 1 Maret
  • Pembelian token bisa menggunakan BTC dan ETH (Untuk alt coin masih dibelum di tentukan)
  • Terdapat 100 million Qtum token
  • Inflasi harga token pertahun sekitar 1%
  • Test net dan publikasi source code pada bulan Juni atau Juli
  • Crowdsale tokennya bukan di Poloniex dan OKcoin
Belum di tentukan/diumumkan exchangenya apa aja, tapi mereka bilang kalau Poloniex tidak mau lagi untuk ngehost ICO (maaf kalau salah), di tunggu aja ya gan, karena saya ga bisa sepenuhnya ikut sesi tanya jawab karena ada ditempat pekerjaan, dan pusing juga lihat chat yang cepet dan terkadang ada yang nanya ke urusan pribadi Smiley.
Hanya di chat itu team Qtum bilang kalau Patrick Dai sudah sangat lama mempersiapkan proyek ini, jadi bisa dibilang proyek ini cukup matang dipersiapkan.
Nah iya gak apa om terima kasih banyak neh info'' nya om falala69 and barnes13 nah dapat point yang bagus neh.
Di lihat dari Patrick Dai bahwa dia sudah mempersiapkan proyek ini sejak lama berarrti kesimpulan nya ini project memang sangat serious, iya sih bisa di bilang lewat campaign'' yang sudah ada, mreka keluarin banyak dana untuk promosi, sedangkan ICO nya masih jauh,semoga jeger dah neh Qtum, kita tunggu gimana kelanjutannya dan info'' selanjutnya juga Cheesy
834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 02, 2017, 02:25:16 PM
In gambling we just know about two things
These are
Win or lose
But the question is when you do betting
You always lose
You do realize about it but why we still go through on betting place?!!!
Apologoze if my topic have already exist it just about my interesting about your opinion about my experiences
from some of the articles I read why most people still gamble though always lose because when someone gamble their bodies will produce endorphins. endorphins are the body's natural opiate, serves to relieve stress and increase feelings of pleasure. this is why the effects of addiction on gambling although it always lose
Wow i love it ! Endorphin ? Isn't it?
I just realize it
So that is what we mean as satisfication or addiction dengue !
Thanks dude
Speaking on this situations theres only two things comes through my mind regarding why people still comeback on playing gambling even they are losing already too much money. 1. Gambling addiction- doesnt matter if they lose money as long they want to play to satisfy their cravings. 2. Hoping and Chasing Losses- this thing usually happen on most gamblers.
I agree about it!
But i wonder with the main idea of yours which said that the gambler will still play as long as they want to play!
How if they were losing all they have?
How they can still play !
835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 02, 2017, 02:13:28 PM
In gambling we just know about two things
These are
Win or lose
But the question is when you do betting
You always lose
You do realize about it but why we still go through on betting place?!!!
Apologoze if my topic have already exist it just about my interesting about your opinion about my experiences
It is called an addicted. Gambling is have the same thing like drugs. It is an addiction for those who play with it.
Every gambler know this is not good, but the one that makes each gambler to others is control. How you can control your addiction, how you can manage your lose, how is your responsibility of it.
Why do have to say that gambling is same like drug? And also i believe that every gambler when we play we have no idea about manage, plane, what our purpose in gamble if we play we just looking for win or take back the bit lose until reach the drawing result or win even a little till we are really tired in play
836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 02, 2017, 01:43:47 PM
when you do betting You always lose
why we still go through on betting place?!!!

that is an excellent question and there is a very simple answer for it:
you are addicted to gambling, and you have not yet figured it out.
which is why unless you hit rock bottom, and lose all your money you wouldn't be quitting gambling.

p.s. by "you" i mean someone who can not give it up and continues betting despite alway losing money.
I do believe about what you mean it same like the player whose never wake up from their dream until they realize that when they wake up they already lose all they have! Aren't i?!!!

Its the human nature , greed. I don't want to get involved into gambling for this exact reason because once you start and you get excited you will sooner or later finish by losing everything because of the greed. Often , when people lose , they want to take another shoot until they get addicted but the thing is that even If they win , they won't stop but they rather continue until they are finished.
That is what exactly what i mean!
Did someone has their limit in gambling? Will you say yes? Because even you've already win a large of bet but you'll still stay on the place that you believe bring your lucky charm Smiley

Because of the eagerness to win that big amount. Who else doesn't like to win big? That kind of people are still doing gambling even they already know that chances of losing is more than chances of winning.

And there are people who already win big but still continue to do their gambling activity because they want to feel again the essence of winning big and hoping it will repeat.
Hahaha i love it ! How do you call them? Ambitious ?
Then according to your idea even i including of these player ? So what you guys think that i have to do?
837  Economy / Gambling discussion / delete please on: February 02, 2017, 01:06:05 PM
delete please
838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 02, 2017, 12:55:47 PM
Many people have plenty reason to keep it going one of these are
Because many of us got a strike lose and also still curious about their lucky charm while hope one day they'll got their bright day
So good luck
839  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO berbasis POS SmartContractPlatform-QAFeb1st Patrick/Earlz/Bo on: February 02, 2017, 06:41:10 AM
Saya bertanya di sesi tanya jawab di Qtum slack channel mengenai exchange yang akan ngehost crowdsale Qtum, jawaban dari Patrick Dai selaku Cofounder Qtum adalah:
Quote
"We will have 3 exchanges support the crowdsale+1 crowdfunding platform+ Qtum official website, so you can choose one of these 5 to participate"
Jadi crowdsale akan di ada di 3 exchange 1 crowdfunding platform dan 1 lagi di Qtum official jadi yang kurang nyaman dengan exchange dari china bisa pilih Qtum official.
wanjirr keren ada 3 situs buat crowdsale nya bakal seru neh kayanya eh ngomong'' nama stus exchanges yang dari cina apa ? , gak ikutan nyimak ke slack jadi gak tau, kalo boleh tau ada info'' penting apa aja lagi om barnes13 ?
840  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: February 02, 2017, 03:34:23 AM
So as of this moment, I'm only earning bitcoin through a signature campaign here on bitcointalk forum.
How are you earning bitcoin?
I also earnings from the signature campaign, I think most people are to do but for me not only that, I also earning Bitcoin from faucets not much but because of this quite helpful for the long run at least, there are many ways to earning Bitcoin of this forum but you must has capability for sure Wink
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