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8221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: November 16, 2021, 05:14:14 AM

15 over 60 k all of Nov

and only 2 left in the 53k range.

Go BTC Go


we stumbled just a bit after closing need to bounce back
8222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2021, 04:28:35 AM
Buy some dip it is tasty
8223  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2021, 01:25:18 AM
got me some dip
8224  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin mining hosting on: November 15, 2021, 10:03:27 PM
rule of thumb

a 10k grid tied solar array gives

10/6= 1.67 kwatts 24 hours a day

if a really good area for sun

10/5 = 2.0 kwatts 24 hours a day.

so if grid tied 10kwatt averages 1.67 to 2 kwatts

and if battery less.

really good panels are around 400 watts

low grade panels are 200 watts.

many homes have 5000 to 10000 watt setups.

they can not do a s19 miner as they do not have enough power.
8225  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor on: November 15, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
some solid numbers right now over 300 ph

Bitcoin Merge Mining Pool
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Stratum Host   mmpool.org   Stratum Port   3333 or 3334
Hashrate (Th/s)   309794.87   Round Duration   106:52:44   Round Shares   7,057,441,969,372   Round CDF   26.75%


Estimated Payout (top 20 submitters)
Rank   Id   DGM Estimate   Shares   Rate (MHash/s)
1   06ae84f6   4.40217015   7,030,818,487,547   248,389,105,194
2   67076efc   0.01279391   9,392,554,892   11,205,754,469
3   1b7093a2   0.05391262   4,571,682,317   9,125,469
4   c932f3ed   0.03045129   2,512,844,355   12,691,338
5   2d0ba29d   0.05131785   2,029,520,071   0
6   29501a4c   0.02998109   836,790,320   0
7   b0d22e5b   0.03167198   836,143,437   0
8   aa58b1b1   0.00239825   831,164,432   0
9   03045cf3   0.00023720   781,182,711   0
10   71602a00   0.03437857   557,916,552   0
11   7c9016f6   0.02969008   273,990,477   0
12   6dae381a   0.00002687   42,917,257   229,620
13   56af4bde   0.00000146   4,166,253   101,409
14   203ea097   0.00002641   1,341,824   16,798
15   551334d4   0.00023697   923,058   10,072
16   3b2803f9   0.00000134   224,821   2,400
17   936b84f0   0.00000000   131,070   0
18   9ebd83be   0.00000000   96   0
8226  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2021, 05:31:46 PM
It will not go to zero.

But It could be much like aluminum which dropped  over 95% in price once mining and smelting it was done cheaply.

Not practically saying that gold investments would fall to zero as many people still prefer it but if you calculate the returns like it was at the same price 10 years ago also and it has not gained anything but given diminishing returns to the holders.

If you $1800 worth of gold is still $1800 if we take 10 years time period [which is huge] then practically it's already zero with inflation index.



People seems to enjoy their gold holdings over these years and show off with expensive jewellery and brag about them are not having vision to see bitcoin future.The rich investors are not moving towards gold and that's why we don't see major price pumps as they already know which is best

Bitcoin -  (+68000% up in 13 years)
Gold    -  continuously diminishing returns

What will you prefer? That's what big whales are doing now and other who are not aware about it will regret as bank lockers and gold is not going to double or even higher your initial investments.This is what i am explaining to all but those who will or understand it have secured future.

Well comparing it to btc is not the same as comparing it to to usd. But I get your point.

if you go back to 1975 gold was 160 usd

Now it is 1800 usd

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1975?amount=1
dollars from 1975 to now are  5.14 to 1


so gold clearly bested the $

as 1800/160 = 11.25 to 1


and the dollar is 5.14 to 1

BTC crushes those numbers

the first day btc was at a dollar was 2011 feb 9


https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Bitcoin_history#Bitcoin_in_2010


so it is up 65,000 to 1 in the last 10 years and 9 months.
8227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 15, 2021, 02:29:33 PM
202 days is pretty good!.

Ill be interested to see if you get that motherboard to hash all 8 slots with no problems, I have only 1 rig running 5 cards.

 (main problem is not having 5 cards of the same type to run in a rig).



Yeah I will test with 7 and 8

I am pretty sure it will do 8 with simplemining os.

My fear is all the power runs in the slots which is why I may restrict to 7 cards

I will use plywood drill a few holes in the plywood  and these spacers

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071DF6ST4?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-ypp-rep_ypp_rep_k0_1_15&crid=3UVVXW61BE1JA&sprefix=plastic+spacers

This will help cool off the mobo

I will mount a few of these fans

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-co-9050050-ww-case-fan/p/N82E16835181205?

the key is the have the fan set to blow air above and under the mobo.


F    >>_______________ >>>>
A    >>
N

This would keep mobo pcb cool and the cards
8228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 15, 2021, 02:11:08 PM
41 hash, 70 watts, no power connectors, tiny, a little more than half the price of a 3090 (3 cards for same hash rate) and no limiting?



Sounds amazing.

Yeah We really hope it lives up to the you tube videos.

I grabbed these boards.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/384476890212?


and these psu's

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-white-series-rm850x-white-cp-9020188-na-850w/p/N82E16817139247?


So 7 x 70 = 490 watts a rig and 40 more you go to 540 watts

build cost me 7 x 560 =

  3920  gpus
+ 160  board
+ 118 psu
 + 20. ram

4218 and say 22 for wood and screws.

4240

does 288 hash
burns 540 watts my power cost in house is 1.69 a day. it earns 23 a day net of  21 or so.

21 x 202 = 4242

202 day pay off.
8229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2021, 01:52:59 PM
This is the situation of gold diggers seeing bitcoin slowly taking over silver now as they know soon it's their turn to flip the market towards Bitcoin.One of them is well known who is orthodox and doesn't match his modern son thinking and the name is Peter Schiff



His son is all in gold and he might be thinking now it's good and can turn his statements anytime like others and consider gold as waste of time .

Quote
When Bitcoin will take over gold it would be worth $475k

We are heading towards it and if you are on gold side congratulations you just have reverse growth on your investment and keep going until you reach zero.


It will not go to zero.

But It could be much like aluminum which dropped  over 95% in price once mining and smelting it was done cheaply.

Gold may very well suffer the same fate due to asteroid mining.

If gold can be moved to the moon and safely lowered to earth or if  real moon base with bigly space can be built gold will become more like real special copper.

Gold is the best metal to work with electrical  gear. If common if would be used over copper. Far far far more resistant to corrosion.

While this sounds like Sci-fi it is a possibility that it happens in under 30 years which plummets the value of gold bigly but not to zero.

 My only wish was that I was 24 not 64 as I would love to see the world in about 70 years time from now.
I really think gold does not have a long term storage of value such as it does now.
8230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: November 15, 2021, 01:09:16 PM
14 over 60 k all of Nov

and only 3 left in the 53k range.

Go BTC
8231  Economy / Economics / Re: Credit cards | A scam or a tool? on: November 15, 2021, 01:04:07 PM
What's your thought about credit cards? Do you consider them a banking fraud, just to trick you to spend money you don't have, or a useful tool if used correctly? Do you have one yourself? In my case, as a student, I was issued a university card, which features a low yearly fee but also a considerably low credit limit. However, I often use it to pay bills in interest free installments (Car insurance for instance) and my gas expenses, which provide a decent cashback (I'll fill up my car once or twice a year for free).

On the other hand, there are quite a few shops here that also offer interest free installments, that way, I was able to purchase a bicycle for my girlfriend, when the budget was quite limited.

The trick on credit cards is to use them wisely, not spending more than you can afford, always pay in time, otherwise you'll get a huge interest on your balance, while at the same time, you're building a credit score.

What's your take on this? Are you against credit card usage?

Credit cards are a tool.  They can be used foolishly or wisely.

I have  charged well over 1 million  in cc charges.  I have paid under 500 in interest and fees and I have collected over 10,000 in cc bonus points.

Granted I am older 64 and have had the time to do this. But you are younger and can do the same thing.
8232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: If you had $1M USD to setup mining op & sell first contract before 12/31? on: November 15, 2021, 12:59:09 PM
TRUE STORY from California, USA.

I have a $1M+ short term capital gain (not from crypto) and I would like to (quickly!) put it all into crypto mining business.

I have extensive IT / unix / server experience and I've dabbled a little bit in crypto (very small... coinbase account, bought $1k worth of various, very small).

What would you do if you needed to spend 1 million (primarily on equipment) before christmas??  Huh

I can't imagine buying and deploying (300) RTX 3090's before 12/31 with cooling and power for that massivity solved.

I can't use my garage becase theirs no way I can have enough power setup before 12/31? (only 100A to home).

I used to use colo facilties for dedicated server hosting, but I wouldn't imagine server colo datacenters are are friendly to power/cooling requirements?

How many amps are we talking? Maybe I could quickly rent a warehouse with enough power?. Smiley

What would you guys do??

California power costs too much to mine.

You need a different location .
8233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2021, 02:34:09 AM
Thie is getting way beyond popcorn level.
Interesting times.

Thanks, good to know. Question: Did you guys do the Astra Zenica vaccine there, or Sinovax, or Sputnik? Curious to see how those stack against good ole Moderna 5G tech.

This would be funny if it wasn't sad (about 5G crap).
In my home state of TX, it is "damn the torpedoes".
No mask mandate, no vaccine mandate, no req to wear mask at businesses and the work place.
It is more freedom, though, which I respect (in comparison with all those dictatorial mandates in some other countries). We shall see.
Would I have preferred students in masks for the time being? Maybe, but most of them do this on their own (without a req).
At least, no one yells at you for wearing (or not wearing) a mask anywhere, which is a plus, I suppose.

Either way we are all going to die one day sooner or later.

But I really hope I at least get to see BTC get to 70k so I can stop feeling guilty about guarantying it back in may 2021.

In the meantime a coin that does not go sideways seems pretty close to exactly  that.  64k diff of 25 in april and now 66 k with a diff of 22.9 in Nov.  So last seven months if you cherry-pick april to nov sideways it is.

hey JJG do you think June seven month from now we are at 70k and a diff of 28?

I don’t.😊
8234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: HARD TO FIND STATS FOR FOLKS WHO DON"T NEED EFFICENCY>!! on: November 14, 2021, 08:39:28 PM
I have been interested in getting into mining but have been kept at bay by the usual overhead costs and also my lack of technical knowledge.

Because i also only use wifi i decided to go with FUTUREBIT and the moonlander2 devices at first just to get my feet wet.
Well, so far the returns have been decent and i think i can actually make a profit after a few years.

i also ordered one of his APOLLO BTC miners. the full rig. im thinking of adding on a hashboard but then i decided to come here and finally get this question answered.

What is the strongest miner for the cheapest price COMPLETELY DISREGARDING EFFICENCY.

As, someone who DOES NOT pay for their electricity i don't necessarily need the device to get the most bang for its buck as far as power consumption, i only need it to have very high hashrate relative to its UPFRONT cost.

Obviously, as futurebit seems to be marketed for its ability to deliver decent hashrate with minimal electricity consumption, it would seem to be the OPPOSITE of what im looking for but its wifi compatability and simplicity to use made it appealing nonetheless.


With about 4 grand left in Dry powder(fiat), i want to see how much Hash power i can get thats is
A)wifi compatible
B)Scrypt or SHa256
C)tech-illiterate friendly.

On the off chance that JSTEPH reads this, could you theorectically make a super powered and cheap to produce miner if the need to make it "efficent" was removed?
perhaps a unit aimed at folks who are fortunate enough to get free power?

S9's
are the way to go.
8235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 14, 2021, 06:22:54 PM
Have an issue with one of the miner dude rigs.

I will need to check on it won't boot.

Been too busy.

We are waiting on 38 rtx a2000 cards.


Note the link below is not my source

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1664767-REG/pny_technologies_vcnrtxa2000_pb_rtx_a2000_graphic_card.html


I paid about 100 less than B+H wants.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK-s1HhbK20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzTgrR1ug4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh6QE08m5QQ

hope they do 41mh at 70 watts
8236  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if $70k was Bitcoin ATH for the year? on: November 14, 2021, 06:13:43 PM
Will you be satisfied if 2021  ends with an ATH of $70k for Bitcoin. Will it make you more richer or it wouldn't add any value to your intial capital.
Will you regret you joined the trend late or  would you be glad you bought when the  market did a retracement? Or you are still staring at Bitcoin with some sentiment

Your question was wrong.

Should have been what if we do not top 70k in 2021 would you be okay with it?

For me no I truly want to see it reach 70k this year.

I predicted 70k in May.

Back in April 2021 we are yet to get there so I personally blame myself for that and until we reach 70k I will remain on the hook.
8237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How about ecash (XEC) 15 Nov upgrade? on: November 14, 2021, 05:09:35 PM
Hi All:
May i know do you think this coin?
Scam?
Or next 10 to 15 year will same with bitcoin?
https://ripplecoinnews.com/ecash-xec-price-prediction-is-ecash-a-good-investment/

I have six million of them plan to mine about 20 million of them.

Than hodl them.
8238  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Air conditioning and miners on: November 14, 2021, 05:03:58 PM
Well I read the Amazon link to the 10000 btu ac.

It has an exhaust duct.

So it will dump hot air out of the duct.

So to the op would you be able to use the provided duct and send the hot air out of the room?

If you can vent the duct on that portable ac out of the room where would it go?

If it goes into a second room that room will be very hot and humid.

If the duct can exit the building you would get it to work.

But your post said no venting so I would say it will not work.
8239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2021, 02:06:41 PM
100k in the next few weeks would represent gigantic volatility and probably be damaging, I could only imagine it comes alongside some great market upset in some area and its probably not beneficial to move so fast.  I dont think we are in that much of a rush for it happen that abruptly.

Quote
USD = 0.000016BTC

main market trader posted this on twitter, funny but true  Grin


Well mostly true.

top 1% own 27% as of oct 2021

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-08/top-1-earners-hold-more-wealth-than-the-u-s-middle-class
8240  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 14, 2021, 02:01:59 PM
I am interested in other folk's plans in regards to expanding or otherwise existing.

I'm also curious what large mining companies that have orders with late 2022 or even 2023 delivery are thinking knowing that they will buy less efficient (by quite a large margin) gear 6 months after the release of this XP Vista wonder machine  Cheesy.

I think a lot will depend on the price of the coin and profitability rate by the time the pre-orders start flying around, the small guys I think will most likely avoid it, in my case at least I'm limited by the amount of power I can burn a month, I might get away in spring and summer since there are no cereals grinders or pellets running 24/7 like now but what do I do, sell these and replace with more efficient, pay extra and wait for another a very! stressful period of looking how many days are left till you're even? And there is the risk, what if those are a flop and as reliable as the 17 series?

With cheap power even the S19s haven't managed to push the S9 out of mining yet, it's incredibly hard for me to picture S19j getting close to unprofitable at even at 10 cents and at the same time poeple making a killing with the XP version, the maths simple isn't there, or at least for me it isn't.



Well our problem is too much power not being used.

and of course really over priced gear.

We went from 115kwatts to 300kwatts and can go to 800kwatts

but the price of gear to add 500kwatts worth of is stupid high.

say 500/3 = 167 new s19 xp could be added at a cost god knows what.  pretend 10000 x 167 = 1,670,000 with august delivery.

The long wait for that much gear makes for stupid high risk.

Or buy a few s19j now direct from bitmain at 12000 + 3000 = 15000 each for 104th 104th is 52th for me that is about 20 a day or 15000/20 = 750 days to break even which is a hard buy for me.

I did see some whatsminers with better prices.

But frankly there are no true deals on BTC asics.


Which is why I have become lopsided to gpus.
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