I am wondering if it would be possible to run an SP-20 with a single CX-750 with lowered voltage settings any thoughts what the settings would be or if it's feasible?
Easily. I run two SP20s off of a single EVGA 1300G2 and get around 1.2GH/s each from them. .63 volts to start .661 max units 1/3 160W max units 2/4 180W max Auto fan well, it means that you are using up to 1360W on a 1300W PSU (or 1455-1496W at the wall). This is probably OK, but I try to keep my power below 1420-1440W (on one 110-120V/15A circuit), also running two on one circuit. |
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they look much better then mine do. I will switch the one using the seasonic.
is your tmp the celsius reading 9c to 14 c?
yes temps are C. as you can see, some of the sp20 perform much better then others as I let the software find the best hash for the voltage allowed in. yes, i also find similar technique beneficial, especially if you also include auto fan. |
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You must be extremely young.
Almost every company/technology listed held a domineering lead in their respective fields for a good amount of time.
Google? LOL. If your frame of reference is that short sighted, then I'll just assume you're 12 years old and think Apple were the pioneers of the cellular world lol.
Altavista, Lycos, and Geocities were all front runners in the internet search engine biz in the mid to late 90's, long before Google stormed onto the scene.
And you know why the only 2 examples you gave are still around and going strong? Because they constantly evolve with the people and create new technologies to appease ever changing user needs. Bitcoin doesn't do that. It's protocol has evolved very little if any over the course of it's life. It does not grow with the population...it just hopes that the population adapts to it.
The bitcoin protocol is the first. And thus the most primitive of it's kind. It offers no real-world advantages compared to its successors with exception to the fact that companies are investing in it strictly because of this premise. But that is far from a guarantee of sustenance...since things move extremely quickly in the technological world, and what is here one day can just as easily be gone tomorrow and replaced by something 'better.'
After all, the same argument bitcoiners make about its benefits vs. fiat, are the same arguments that could be made for altcoin2.0 vs bitcoin.
TCP/IP is still around. basically, all i am saying is-show me a real contender-and you might be proven right. Right now bitcoin is supported by ~300PH of computing power plus there are ten, maybe hundred times more people working on bitcoin vs alts. Nothing else comes close, but my eyes are open. |
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As negative yields stretch further and further out no one knows what will happen. It's unchartered territory.
If SHTF in traditional main st asset classes it could dwarf 08 because there's more debt, more tbtf and no more bullets in the chamber. I have to think in this situation, gold, btc, no debt and hard assets are winners.
yes, when something is unprecedented, we don't know where it is going. For example: if 5 year bonds have negative yield, then short term bonds are likely to have negative yields as well. if short term bonds or notes have negative yield, then money market have to be either subsidized (it could be costly) or also have negative yield. if money market has negative yield, people will take money out as cash as zero (the proverbial mattress) is a better return. I say that if FED is smart, they will try to reignite animal spirits by concentrating on one asset class. Stocks look tired, so the options are gold plus other PM and bitcoin. Bitcoin can be made much more liquid then gold due to it's properties, so my hope would be that they will decide to move bitcoin. However, they might just take no action and be frozen in the headlights of the incoming deflation train. Newsflash: The feds (aka jp morgan) already owns 60% of the world's gold derivatives. It's the modern day hunt brothers scenario, but with much bigger and greedier hands. It's not like they're just suddenly looking to invest. They control the market...and you best believe if shtf the first thing to see an astronomical rise are good ol' tried and tested precious metals. There's a reason why they abandoned the gold standard. Because at the end of the day when all the dust clears, they want to be the only ones holding the loot and having the population on their knees. Bitcoin now and never will be in their sights. If they were really interested in the bitcoin protocol, they'll just create their own coin lol. They have no need for the outdated original bitcoin system. To many people get stuck into the old-world mentality that just because bitcoin was the first and most lucrative of its kind, that it will automatically be the only one standing in x amount of years. But when you really look at it, that couldn't be further from the truth. There are a ton of other alts that are far more superior both in terms of security/anonymity/and transfer times than the original dated protocol. Here's a small golden list of a few other companies/inventions that used to hold the crown early into groundbreaking technologies: Cyrix, AOL, Netscape, Atari, Palm Pilots, Altavista, Lycos, Geocities, Motorola...etc etcWell, AAPL and MSFT are both standing pretty good after ~40 years at ~1tril in market cap between them. Try to dislodge GOOG with a new search engine-it's very unlikely. Your examples do not really hold water as none of these mentioned had managed to hold on to a dominant market share for a long time. Bitcoin has >90% market share for more than 5 years already. Show me something that suddenly gains >50% market share and I might agree with you |
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That sounds about right. According to organofcorti's blog, our average time to find a block over the last 3 weeks (Jan 04-24 inclusive) is 1.2x, 1.2x and 1.42x the expected value, which is 78.5%. It's been a bad start to the year.
Thank you for pointing me to that. What is interesting to note is that recently all major evaluated pools ran into bad luck. Looking back around one year, we see how bad luck and good luck pools were par - which is what one would expect. Today, all of the pools are significantly unlucky (over 1.2). How probable it can be that a set of pools worth 50PH are unlucky - individually and as a set? Variance aside, there has been a monotonic down-trend in the luck over the past year - unless I knew better I'd suspect either a systematic error in how the statistics are collected or something very fishy is going on. I'll try to get some feedback on that from organofcorti before starting conspiracy. Which leaves 1.87 % of withholding hashing power for the pool lifetime assuming it is a long enough time frame (which I think it is)
Thanks man (or should I say: bash-guru  ), that was exactly what I was looking for. Kudos for instead of asking for CSV data, extract it from the website (small fix: your command for the last 3000 has a typo). Your results show exactly what I suspected my feelings are cheating me: while the all-time average seems ok, the luck is monotonically getting worse. Compare any series of the last N blocks to the previous one to see what I mean. Must be missing something... yes, nobody complained repeatedly when it was going up and down, but since december, it is going either down or stays normal (there is no UP). there are many periods of underreporting, but very few (if any) of outperforming. |
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I am guessing that replacing the stock fan voids the warranty. I wonder if that was planned- that by using a fan that users would obviously replace, would reduce warranty claims. Or is the warranty still in effect?
Strato
How on earth can Bitmain prove that you switched the stock fan for a fan which produces less noise. Please tell? It was just a question. Perhaps some people cut the connector off the stock fan to hard wire a new fan that came with bare leads. The question I think is relevant. Strato yeah, there was a picture of these somehwere  |
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SOLD.For sale SP20 that was used for about a week.
$285 $300 plus shipping (paid in BTC)
One out of four loops does not hash, so it is hashing at 3/4 of regular machine and uses 3/4 of power.
SPT cannot fix it by software adjustments.
I can ship it anywhere as long as you pay for shipping.
Naturally, the easiest is to sell to someone in US because shipping by ground is cheap (~$15).
I run it underclocked at 930-935 GH/553W (at the wall)/fan~25, but it can run at 1150-1200GH if you use more power (I like to run mine underclocked).
If you are technically adept, you might be able to fix the fourth loop (maybe there is a cable disconnect), but I make no guarantees and sell it as 3/4 of Sp20.
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It was a while back (babylon 5)...i kind of liked Farscape a bit more.
And Firefly never seen that one, but Serenity was good (it seems to have the same characters/actors). Really liked Serenity. Will watch Firefly and Farscape on a netflix binge@ dogie I will go to survey monkey and check it out i am familiar with that (binge that is), watched all breaking bad in a week or two. |
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It was a while back (babylon 5)...i kind of liked Farscape a bit more.
And Firefly never seen that one, but Serenity was good (it seems to have the same characters/actors). |
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It was a while back (babylon 5)...i kind of liked Farscape a bit more, but B5 was cool as well.
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As negative yields stretch further and further out no one knows what will happen. It's unchartered territory.
If SHTF in traditional main st asset classes it could dwarf 08 because there's more debt, more tbtf and no more bullets in the chamber. I have to think in this situation, gold, btc, no debt and hard assets are winners.
yes, when something is unprecedented, we don't know where it is going. For example: if 5 year bonds have negative yield, then short term bonds are likely to have negative yields as well. if short term bonds or notes have negative yield, then money market have to be either subsidized (it could be costly) or also have negative yield. if money market has negative yield, people will take money out as cash as zero (the proverbial mattress) is a better return. I say that if FED is smart, they will try to reignite animal spirits by concentrating on one asset class. Stocks look tired, so the options are gold plus other PM and bitcoin. Bitcoin can be made much more liquid then gold due to it's properties, so my hope would be that they will decide to move bitcoin. However, they might just take no action and be frozen in the headlights of the incoming deflation train. |
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I voted when poll was here, so did the data transferred to google or we shall vote there again?
Google poll requires login with google credentials, not btctalk-this is kind of defeats the purpose.
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Big thanks to Guy for the help with my small issue. As always, SPT is the best in post sales support.
You know where to vote i already did even beforehand |
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Big thanks to Guy and the team for the help with my small issue. As always, SPT is the best in post sales support.
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First-bitcoin (as it was the most speculative asset)
Second-oil and other commodities
Third-stocks (just started to happen)
Fourth-bonds and real estate (again)-maybe the last, once we are done with deflation.
German 5 year bonds were at negative yields last week, so something has to give.
Hopefully, bitcoin would be the first one to recover, but i don't hope for it too much.
Lol first to recover? Are you seriously comparing a new speculative payment method to fundamental necessity markets? Oil and housing markets will always eventually recover because...humans need houses and gasoline and power. Nobody 'needs' bitcoin to sustain life. You're better off just speculating that BTC will go to the moon 'just because.' if you think that there is a "need" for IBM to be $152, let me tell you -there is no such need. It could be at $50 just as well. In fact, SP500 would function just as fine at 1000 as it is at 2000. There is no "need" for an apartment to be at 15 mil in London. It could be just 1 million, right? The levels that you see are historical in that they have a historical reason to be where they are now, but it does not mean that the asset prices cannot be 50% lower or even 80% lower. So, remind me-what is the "intrinsic" price of oil-is it $100, $80, $45 or $30? As far as bitcoin is concerned-I think that it will recover first, but i have no idea where it will bottom. In fact, if i was at the FED, i would started pumping bitcoin as much as i could as it is the only high velocity asset class with low liquidity (easy to pump) and rising bitcoin might reignite the animal spirits in a market that is just about to either fall asleep or have a coronary. The stock market will always exist. So not sure where you were going with the IBM narrative. I was referring to stocks in general as a basic fundamental of the global economy. The stock market will always exist. Same with apartments. Where did I say anything about particular prices of housing units? The housing market in general is a necessary component of the global economy as well and will never go away. Are you seriously trying to argue that the stock or housing market will one day vanish into thin air? I shouldn't have to hold your hand when explaining intrinsic value. When everything goes south, you can still live in a house. It has value as shelter from outside elements and being...a homeless ass bum. They will always retain value and demand because they are essentials. You CAN NOT say the same about bitcoin. It is not a fundamental component to sustaining life, as it's simply one of other countless alternatives to fiat payments. If bitcoin collapses...you cannot do shit with a 'bitcoin.' It can go to $0. All you have are just a few arbitrary bytes of data on your harddrive, no different than a txt file or email. I suppose if a die hard bitcoiner really wants to get philosophical, they can find sentimental value in a worthless bitcoin should the situation ever arise. That's pretty adorable. Initially i was just arguing about an order in which markets seem to decline, nothing else-it was you who brought up, in my opinion, erroneous notion that there is much of intrinsic value in markets. My point is that this value exist (it is not zero), but it is much, much smaller that you can gather by looking at the current asset prices. How much smaller-it seems that we are about to find out, and by this I mean the next 5-10 years, not tomorrow. Case in point: Nikkei at 39000 in 1989, then Nikkei at 7600 in 2009 (lost 80% in 20 years). |
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First-bitcoin (as it was the most speculative asset)
Second-oil and other commodities
Third-stocks (just started to happen)
Fourth-bonds and real estate (again)-maybe the last, once we are done with deflation.
German 5 year bonds were at negative yields last week, so something has to give.
Hopefully, bitcoin would be the first one to recover, but i don't hope for it too much.
Lol first to recover? Are you seriously comparing a new speculative payment method to fundamental necessity markets? Oil and housing markets will always eventually recover because...humans need houses and gasoline and power. Nobody 'needs' bitcoin to sustain life. You're better off just speculating that BTC will go to the moon 'just because.' if you think that there is a "need" for IBM to be $152, let me tell you -there is no such need. It could be at $50 just as well. In fact, SP500 would function just as fine at 1000 as it is at 2000. There is no "need" for an apartment to be at 15 mil in London. It could be just 1 million, right? The levels that you see are historical in that they have a historical reason to be where they are now, but it does not mean that the asset prices cannot be 50% lower or even 80% lower. So, remind me-what is the "intrinsic" price of oil-is it $100, $80, $45 or $30? As far as bitcoin is concerned-I think that it will recover first, but i have no idea where it will bottom. In fact, if i was at the FED, i would started pumping bitcoin as much as i could as it is the only high velocity asset class with low liquidity (easy to pump) and rising bitcoin might reignite the animal spirits in a market that is just about to either fall asleep or have a coronary. |
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First-bitcoin (as it was the most speculative asset)
Second-oil and other commodities
Third-stocks (just started to happen)
Fourth-bonds and real estate (again)-maybe the last, once we are done with deflation.
German 5 year bonds were at negative yields last week, so something has to give.
Hopefully, bitcoin would be the first one to recover, but i don't hope for it too much.
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Fishy? More Fishy that the coverage claiming that Cypriots were transferring money into bitcoin while their money was LOCKED into banks? I don't think so. I'd rather say bad reporting.
So glad someone else realizes this. All of 2013 was complete manipulation with attribution to glorified news stories and unethical trading bots. Bitcoin's true value should not be more than $40-50 right now. If the rumors are true, Mark K literally ruined Bitcoin. Yes, I forgot about the Cyprus Crisis... they claimed that the first bubble in 2013 was caused by that... what a fucking nonsense, and yes Bitcoin price is so over inflated. try to mine one-you will see how 'easy' it is. |
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Guys! Back on topic please!!!  We're here to discuss black box, underperforming trading algorithms with stupid names, not nematode registration. "nematode registration"... *snort* don't you curse nematodes. They are an important genetics model organism (C. elegans), from which much was learned about aging, development, etc... |
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