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8261  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Doubling Bitcoin? on: October 02, 2016, 07:41:47 AM
My previous bitcoin doubling site was coince but now that site is to scam they had changed their policies and minimum investment is $500 which is very high and we can't afford to loss that huge amount. So only thing I could suggest is that you can join a trading site for small trading with experiment with various coins as the price keeps fluctuating and there is chances to earn profit from trading. Other than trading there is no safe way to double you bitcoin.

ya i been lost my money in site double coin and ends scam, since then i never believe double coin, and i switched trading

Majority of users have lost their coins in doubling and ponzi sites hoping that they will their coins in quick time, but unfortunately that never happened which resulted in loss to all of them.
Well, some people really falls for the trap of the scammers but we should not let them stop our dreams to make money in bitcoin, instead we should learn from our mistakes and invest on a more legitimate investment not again in HYIP and PONZI Schemes.

We do  fall of these scams sometimes especially  when we are still a newbie  back then because we dont have  enough knowledge  regarding  on this things and were fooled  by the high returns that  they promise thats why we fall on this  this schemes. You are right we do learn from our mistakes though.
8262  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do you convince people to use Bitcoin? on: October 01, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
i just explain them what is bitcoin and how we can earn or spend them i am just following the same pattern of bitcoin's offical site. i know many peoples are dumb and stupid and passes many comments to save the reputation of their dear banks
Yeah same here that i explain it well and i show them that bitcoin is money and how to earn bitcoin. so that if they join here in our forum they can learn more about bitcoin and they can offer this bitcoin to other people.. or friends..

We should make sure that we keep things simple at primary stage and don't complicate things, we can bring them to this forum and show them how are earning from signature campaign.
The thing is if a person you are teaching has no idea with the online transaction, it would not be easy for them to understand about bitcoin it is an online thing, in addition there are still people in this world who does not even know what is computer or don't have an idea about internet.

You have a point,  convincing people about  bitcoin would  be hard  especially to those people  who lack knowledge  especially on online stuffs as same as you said. If  you would try to explain about bitcoin to them for sure they  would  be confuse since they  dont even  now  how internet works.

There are people  who didnt even  know  how to use  smartphones and even computers and  even they dont  know how  to surf the  net as of these  high tech days and thats reality thats why  its a big  problem  for full adoption  on bitcoin throughout the world.
8263  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'd like to get some bitcoins. Is now a good time to do so? on: October 01, 2016, 03:44:52 PM
Now is a very good time to do so bitcoins price is very low relatively compared to it's potential cause right now it's at 600$
I am a true believer that bitcoin can reach atleast 5k per coin so as you see it's still a very good time to buy bitcoins.
I have no doubt that bitcoin can reach 5k, but the question is when? Personally I think it will take a long time probably something between 10 and 20 years.

Your question is depended on your struggle for bitcoin, If you will support and promote bitcoin in your community in your area then it will get more demand and the price wll start to increase while if you do not care for that to promote and just storing and waiting then it will take longer time.
Promotion has already been done here by majority of the members like we are promoting a certain gambling sites that uses bitcoin and even those people who are in facebook who keep promoting HYIP that uses bitcoin as an investment, so I think we should just leave it to them to promote and we will just invest.
But the problem promoting hyip investment many people got lost and ended fear to use btc again . There is many ways to promote btc but hyip investment is not good part of it.

Hyips are just garbage  which they are total scams and   a really waste of money and  it shouldnt  be  recommended  to anyone.  Getting bitcoin is possible through faucets  but they give too little amounts only , signature campaign would be the best way if you dont have any technical skills. This time  to get bitcoins is not bad since bitcoins is just starting up to rise.
8264  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why very little campaign for newbie? on: October 01, 2016, 03:39:28 PM
newbies are easily reachable and this makes them worthless so users in that rank have more chances to spam or scam in the forum and the main reason is that their signature space do not allows links to be added thats why campaingns will not get profit from them
Though few tend to spam, there are many who really follow the rules and regulations of the signature campaign they have joined in. This is the reason for many new upcoming signature campaigns to give newbies a change to post and earn. This chance really encourages the newbies to come up with quality posts and adhere to the rules and regulations of the campaigns in future. They are well prepared for the future endeavors. 

Yes i agree with you  not all newbies   are spammers, they have been all generalized as  spammers because  most of them doing the spam and affect those newbies  whos serious  on building  up on their  accounts thats  why  signature campaigns   do  limit  on  newbie rank  on their participants.
8265  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How signature campaign actually works? on: October 01, 2016, 03:37:31 PM
Basically the signature campaigns here works by paying some members to advertise them , so members post daily and get paid if they dont spam threads.
Yes it is true basically the signature campaings here works by just posting everyday and if his going to do this then he should difinitely apply now and know the difference and his the one go who gonna figuring out
And it is not easy to be part of a good signature campaign because you need to have a good writing and you are always on topic, they called that constructive posting, and if you do not have that, don't bother applying because you will only be denied.

Thats the  most  important thing when you intend to join on a signature campaign  is that you would make sure that your post  quality would be good and  you should  not  make spammy post  and  must be relevant to the topic always. Signature campaigns  manager are strict  implying  this  kind  of rules.
8266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins worth buying on: October 01, 2016, 03:34:05 PM
Lisk seems interesting, and I actually see a bit of orders on Poloniex and Yobit.
I may actually pick up a couple coins now that you mention it.

I'll have to do some reading to see if this is a coin that is actually worth long-term investment.
I agree that LISK is good for long term investment, we have seen the market is really good and so far it performs progressively, we just need more time before it will start to pump again like we have seen in the past, I think the volume is really good and it even beat waves for the value now.

No doubt Lisk has all the essential quality of a good altcoin. Definitely worth investing!

Lisk is good but for me  the  potential alt coins would  be ETH, ETC and XMR (MONERO) they are already rising  up the same   on bitcoin it was before thats  why  i put up some investments on this alts which  would somehow gives profits  on the  long run. Well i cant be sure of it but somehow theres a possibility.
8267  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 01, 2016, 03:32:14 PM
i put my money 25% into bitcoin and save my bitcoin for long time as long term investment because i know that bitcoin price will be more going rise up because there is a lot of people are buying bitcoin in huge amount for the future they surely know that bitcoin will going to high its price sooner.
10% is my limit in putting and investment in bitcoin, I love to have a conventional approach when it comes to a more risky investment which is bitcoin, maybe I will increase a little in the future but that depends on the market situation.

Same here , im doing the same situation as yours  i already put up  10% on  my money on bitcoin  because that percentage  is  already enough   and  i have  high hopes for bitcoin to rise up in the future and  make some  profits but still we dont know  whats the exact thing  would  happen in upcoming years.
8268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 01, 2016, 03:30:32 PM

Not true when you have a target to stop after hit your winnings target and when you are closer with your winnings target it will make you a hurry to achieve it and sometimes you will get a defeat because you are not careful.
If I were in that situation, I would rather stop than to achieve that target because I am satisfy of what I have won, I just play for fun and that is my bonus for what I enter, and that is gambling that is really risky, but if you see gambling as a simple game, it will always fine for you to play.

Having a target amount  would somehow  an disadvantage for some gamblers because  we all know  results would be different anytime , there are times that we  might reach it  because we  able to sustain on long run  but  some   you already lost   all of your money  and didnt still achieve your target amount.
8269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 01, 2016, 03:25:04 PM
Gambling is risky game of money from which most people lose and just a few wins. Gambling too is addictive and fun especially when you're winning and that's why most people can't get away from gambling once they get in it.
In gambling you only win from the start then you lose whenever you win a certain amount.
i think it is not a sickness , it is attraction of bitcoin to earn without hardwork . when we win the bet then we think that no one can fail our idea but when we loss then everything comes opposite to our condition so i think it is only addiction of earning bitcoin .

Not only on bitcoin but  also on  fiat which you could   think that   youwould really make  money  on doing  gambling,  it really does   but only on the beggining but when you do it for  long runs for sure you would  lose your money and  gambling is designed that way. Sickness would  be considered  when you are already got addicted to it.
8270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who really uses bitcoin? on: October 01, 2016, 03:23:13 PM
It's very difficult to answer this question.
We don't have any statistic or research about it, so we can't talk about gender, nationality, age etc.
I think that Bitcoin uses open minded people, who are not afraid to try something new, people ready to change and adapt etc.
Bitcoin is basically way of life and way of thinking, not just some ''virtual currency.''
I'm glad that I'm here Smiley



I agree with you that bitcoin is for open minded people and those who were not afraid to try something new.  I was so afraid before to try bitcoin.  Scams are everywhere on online world.  And trying it opens an opportunity for me to have something to earn.  I have enjoyed earning and investing it.  It was really hard at first but it so worth a try.

We have the same feeling too when i first encounter with bitcoin because  i thought that it would be another scam online  thats  why  i make deep research about bitcoin and  somehow  interest me  to give it a try then my decision was right   and  it worth to  earn bitcoin  as of  now.
8271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 01, 2016, 03:20:26 PM
As long as you play for fun and not to obtain profits then gabling should not make you cry, bet only what you can afford to lose and you will be fine at the end.
I agree, if we see gamble as an entertainment I don't think you will cry if you lose some of your money. I think gambling should not treat as a source of income. Because if you do and use all your money in your pocket then lose that should be a problem.

That's what happened to me once. I thought of a team to win and went all in, but then, just one minute remaining and a goal struck, I lost.  Cry
That money was needed for my child's tuition fees that I promised him I will pay that week and learnt a lesson that I should never treat it as a source of income, but rather an extra one.
Thats a sad  situation  which  you really lose the money  intended  for   the tuition  of  your child and thats a lesson learned  that we  must  not rely fully on gambling because    it does matter  on luck all the time since we dont know what would be the result on the end of the game.
8272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 01, 2016, 03:17:49 PM
Look for other activities and focus to the bustle. If you can not adjust your focus, you will not be able to stop gambling.
Other activity can really help you stay away in gambling or forget about gambling. Some other stuff like sports or travel or even bond with family is really good for you to stay away in gambling.

Agree, make yourself busy on other things would surely help you out  to quit gambling because youre mind is focused on other things and would not able to  think about on playing  again  and be sure to avoid  as  much as you can on things that are related  to it because temptations are there.
8273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: October 01, 2016, 03:16:31 PM
gambling to kid under 10 year old is not good
but is very bad, this brain not good learn gambling to kid
Yeah its not good for kids. me personally when i was a kid i also gamble with my playmates i thought its fine, my parents were both working so i can do what i want everyday. later on i realized its not good for minors and i dont want my kids to be like that too.
Yeah gambling for kids really should'nt be allowed since kids are easily addicted on things to what they do unlike adults that can be addicted too they can get away hard to it but kids can get away harder.

Gambling  for kids would not be advisable at all and  it should not be tolerated to engage them  on this kind of things because  on their minor ages they would  definitely be a gambling addict which is  really not good its better to  focus on their studies to be  a succesful person  someday in the future.
8274  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 01, 2016, 03:15:08 PM
If you urgently need money tedious to sell liquid assets. If not, you should try to earn. If this does not work, then take the debt. But this is an emergency

Earning wont work in that case because if you are in desperate need of money you would probably not have enough time to work and earn that much money in that time, so the only possible way would be taking a debt, because if you haven't saved anything for your future that is the only thing you can do in an emergency.

True, in  urgent  times you would  not  have  enough time to work just to produce money since  you could not able to produce it on time and  you would surely wait for  monthly salary as others said you would really  make a debt  to someone  because its the last resort to do  when you are desperate for money.
8275  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: October 01, 2016, 03:11:47 PM
Are people going to turn to bitcoin when everything around them falls to shit?
I think they go for the historical and gold drives up faster than you can say "grandma that hurt's"!
Gold translates better on a day to day as opposed to telling some one they just need to wait on downloading that blockchain and then giving them bitcoin in exchange.



Gold is indeed still the safe haven place where people like to store their money in times of crisis and other bad economical situations, but Bitcoin is perfectly capable of doing exactly the same. Both (where I personally prefer Bitcoin) are fantastic store of value tools, I just hope people will realize this too, and not only look at Gold.

Gold is more secure in compared to bitcoin because its more stable in terms of value because the price of gold stays stable for a longer time than bitcoin, while bitcoin is better in terms of profits as the price of it keeps growing with the time which can generate profits to the investors in a shorter time than gold.

In terms of  profits and  short trades we could  make more on  bitcoin  compared to gold  but   you could somehow assure  huge profits on gold on long terms same also in bitcoin. If you do have  enough money to invest both then it would be  the  best idea to have both since  they  have  the potential  to make you more money  in upcoming years.
8276  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 01, 2016, 03:09:50 PM
it's depending about what you want, if you want to "stable growing" i perefered to choose gold, but for simple invest, easy to use, easy to sell i prefered bitcoin for invest my money
Me too , for stable investment and low risk IMO you can choose gold . But for long-investment you can choose bitcoin Instead.
Use both of them is good , where you can have secondary investment if the former is lose or the price's hits the ground.

i believe that for both long term and short term investments you can choose both of these commodities.

but of cource it is always a lot better to choose both of them at the same time not only one. you can buy both bitcoin and also gold to diversify and maximise your profit potential.
Choosing both is already considered a great opportunity, but with out limited resources we cannot always just choose the two, we have to select only one that is based on the amount of capital we have and I believe majority of the investors can afford to invest with bitcoin rather than gold.

That is true. It is easier to invest on bitcoin because it can be purchased in small amounts. And also, we can get paid in bitcoin with services we render. While gold needs larger capital to start investing in it. But I think it is safer to invest in gold.

Gold is always safer investment to make, and the best thing about bitcoin is that you don't  need to invest money in it, you can also earn it in many ways, in that way you can have both of them for future.

Thats the advantage of bitcoin into gold since you could able to earn it  without investing any money unlike on gold investment you would really need huge amounts  to have it unlike bitcoin that you could able to  buy on small amounts and keep it  for future but as we all know bitcoin is just a currency and  gold  is a precious metal, we should not compare them.
8277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: October 01, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
Do you think that people hate bitcoins why?
Are you hate bitcoins or like it.........
But my answer is I LIKE BITCOIN.

No they actually don't hate bitcoins, most of people actually love bitcoins, if they would hate it there wouldn't be so many shops that accepts bitcoins yet they accept them

There are not many shops that accepts bitcoins and even if there are shops there is no concern with hating it as not all hate bitcoins, people who are using them will surely spend them if they find places to.

Shops are just  part of adoption on bitcoins existence and  it wouldnt matter at all  that would  make  people   hate  bitcoin because  they cant use bitcoin actively on those shops but as others said   shops do accept bitcoin is  not yet available all over the world  but there are some  shops on  developed countries. I cant see anything   for bitcoin  to be hated by someone.
8278  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: October 01, 2016, 03:02:25 PM
If i see the reality than nothing is happened as you said, I am not saying you are wrong, that is your thread and i respect it and also your thinking. But in my opinion, I don't think that fiat currency will be die now and ever, Crypto currency can be ended, but fiat currency always remain in the world.

Yes, no matter whats the motive on creating  crypto  it would really not affect fiat after all ,as we can see on bitcoin it may  have benefits regarding on doing private  transactions which is somehow a good thing  for some people  but   replacing  fiat completely would  be a different story and  it would  really happen.
8279  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many btc do you have? on: October 01, 2016, 02:59:31 PM
What is a good amount to have? Is there some kind of club if you own a certain amount?  Like the 21 btc club or some shit? What is average, and big pimpin?

I never go lower than 21, is that good or bad?

I own 22.5 BTC. Is that good enough?
You now own just over one-millionth of the total supply of Bitcoin ever, if you think that's an achievement for yourself then that's good for you.

I personally can't imagine ever having 22.5BTC, so I would say that yeah, you are good. There will only ever be, at most, 1 million people that will hold more Bitcoin than you, and that would be if it was distributed equally.

My goodness 22.5BTC was a big amount and good savings that can be considerate. I can say dude that you are one of the successful bitcoin enthusiast here in bitcoin world. I only got 0.8BTC for a couple of months since I joined here this year only.

If you really own that big amount may i know if what  certain wallets are you using well you don't have to be specific all i want to know if you are using online wallet or a desktop wallet. If you are using online wallet i supposed that it was on blockchain?

you wont know  since he would not intend to tell  where those funds are being stored. 22btc is  already decent and you could   make already some  investments with that amount. Earning even 1 btc as of today  is soo damn hard and  not easy you would really make  do hard workd in able to attain it.
8280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: October 01, 2016, 02:55:47 PM
Not at the current state. People are still dependent on banks to have access to paper money, because there are few places where you can get this through Bitcoin ATMs. In addition, there are few places where you can spend Bitcoin directly.

So, what do you think more easily?
Places start to accept Bitcoin or a new altcoin made by banks?
Think about that! Bitcoin will never got this market...

An altcoin made by a bank wont be able to get as much success as bitcoin has got, because a bank would only be promote its coin into a single country because they cannot be international but every country has their own banks, but bitcoin is popular in all the world or it will be, so a coin made by a bank wont be able to compete with bitcoin.

Altcoin made  by bank would be  still useless  since people would  definitely  consider bitcoin as  the main crypto and   each country has its own bank  and  if they intend to  do  altcoins for their country  it would be still useless same as you said. They cannot compete with bitcoin for sure. Bitcoin cant make  banks disappear.
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