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8321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 PUMP GROUP THAT PUMP COINS TO THE MOON🌙 🌙🌙 on: November 26, 2017, 05:22:08 PM
how much price youre service ?
or youre sevrice is free, how youre pump system work ?

Our PUMP is free. In fact, we reward you with BTC if you promoted and hyped the coin well all over internet.

Join us now!!! https://t.me/ProMoonPump

Stop this scam. I've joined a group exactly like this one a couple months back, my guess is you are the same people.

They hold a "vote", rig em, so they can prebuy, and then they dump on the people which are their ""customers"".

They reward the users that have drawn the most people in their discord with like 10-15 seconds of time to buy in before the rest of the cattle can.

The "we hype it up on social media", is total bullshit.

If this was actually true, they wouldn't even need you guys at all.
It's so obvious that this story doesn't add up, yet so many people keep participating in them. come on.
I agree with you that pump group are scamming schemes (at least, for the most part), but I guess you can't say these are the same people that made you lose money, if you don't have any proofs.
OP, keep in ming that people on this forum don't usually tolerate pump groups and if you want to sound different from all others, I guess you must have a real strategy, nice advirtisement, your own website perhaps, oh, and call yourself not a pump group but somehow more sophisticated and official. Surely I suggest all this only by giving you the benefit of the doubt which is that you don't want to get rich by making other members of your pump groups lose their money.
What lacks also is the proof that it was actually your group pumping the coins listed in the original message. Can you provide smth like that?
8322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Electroneum on: November 26, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
Hey guys,

Do you think Electroneum will go to moon if hackerone finally finish their tests ?

Thanks!

What do you think will happen when they will finally let people use their ICO coins?  Do you think when they will return peoples property they are holding price will raise or fall?
Why are you saying they are holding someone's property? Electroneum is traded on cryptopia, so people can sell the coins if they want, right? Or perhaps I'm missing something here? Anyway, I think that if they do hold smth and then it will be released then surely people are likely to sell. However, I think the project is very attractive long-term, so I would keep the coins for another year and see what happens then. Mobile mining requires time to prove it's working properly. We just have to be patient on this one and I believe the team is capable of leading electroneum to success.
8323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: If you had to go all in the next 3 days, what coin would you choose? on: November 26, 2017, 05:01:15 PM
This is a no brainer, definitely Bitcoin.

Bitcoin just crossed $9000 mark and you can expect media from all over the world will cover this news in the upcoming week.

If 0.01% of readers decide to take a shot an invest into it, market cap would rise in terms of billions, and due to limited supply, so would your investment.

Let's wait until wednesday and see if I was right.  Wink

I second that. BTC is on the run. Media is reporting worldwide about bitcoin gained 1000%.

Most people will now step in, so BTC is very bullish.
Altcoins are more risky / volatile at the moment. Jump on the BTC train... wait till the bullrun is over (HODL, it will be a long time run) then buy back into altcoins that dipped and gain more profit.

But now, I for myself put all my portfolio into 100% BTC.
This is not a good recommendation. Going all in in BTC would cost you some money. Besides, Alts are bullish at the moment too. Diversification is the best strategy here.
I thought the idea was to go all-in in one coin. Any all-in will cost you money, so I don't think btc is a lot different from other coins in that. Yet, if it was a choice for the next 3 days, I wouldn't choose bitcoin. It's growing rapidly in terms of marketcap but the percentage of growth is not that high. I guess I would go for monero, because the coin is nice and it is -5% now. As bitcoin gold is in minus but #5, I guess it might be a good candidate for short-term success as well.
8324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bonpay [ICO] Live ICO : Global Solution for Financial Freedom on: November 26, 2017, 04:50:36 PM
I am based on the table, already explained the comparison of its products. With the team's commitment to change and eliminate these obstacles can make the crypto community benefit from this project. Correct?
I suppose you are right. They want to make cryptocurrencies really worth the prices. People mostly consider cryptos as investment options. If they did the same with fiat it would have already lead to crisis. Cryptocurrencies don't make a lot of sense without being used on daily basis. As bonpay wants to make it possible to use the currency as payment, not only as investment, I think it has big chances of becoming very popular, for it is really what other projects mostly don't have. What is missing is the more information on the team. Bonpay, could you add the team main members on your official website? I think it is what a lot of people are looking at when they get acquainted with a new project.
8325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH it's almost $500 on: November 25, 2017, 05:45:02 PM
I bought Ethereum for about $ 200 and got a position. Now I have made a very good money with this rise but I still don't think about selling it. I expect that the Ethereum price will rise to $ 600 in a short time.
I don't think so. Ethereum is not this kind of coin that grows in price a lot and fast, you know. Especially if we recall all the problems it has with security. I would stay away from ethereum. It is not able to ensure the safety of funds. You can wake up and realize your eth is not there anytime. Remember parity eth frozen? Still no decision. We don't even know if those 150 million dollars will be returned to their owners, because it is likely that a hard fork is needed for that! We have to be very attentive if we choose to deal with eth nowadays.
8326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you invested $10 in every ico in 2017 on: November 25, 2017, 05:33:33 PM
That is not possible to happen because ICOs have certain rules and regulations. They have minimum buy limits which needs to be filled in order to buy their tokens. One has to be ultra rich in order to invest in every ICO because there are hundreds of ICOs launching every months.
They say 90% of the ICOs turn out to be scam and in that case you would lose 90% of your investments Undecided Investing in ICO is risky and that is why we must do a research on the project before investing in it.
Yeah, when Enjin coin was getting released, they had $1k! min investment into the project. and I don't think this is an exception. That is why a more interesting question would be as follows: if you invested 10$ in top-5 coins on coinmarketcap one year ago, for instance. You would get about 110$ for bitcoin, 450$ for eth, 175$ for litecoin, 30$ for ripple, 230$ for monero. Now, this shows that investing in altcoins might actually be a lot easier than we think of it.
8327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Waves Price Soon on: November 25, 2017, 05:23:25 PM
Waves is and always will be a solid project no matter what. I think it's the time to see waves prices increase over 10$ but only after the bitcoin bull run is finally over. But don't forget waves guys , it will make you happy one day.
Yeah, as btc is growing, its dominance increases and suppresses altcoin market. Even very good projects can't get proper attention in this situation. I think now is a very bad time for alts and especially new ico releases, because no matter how much better the new projects are in comparison with bitcoin, people keep investing in it and, as they do that, it actually becomes more profitable to do nothing and hold btc instead of keeping track on good projects and deciding what is the best investment.
8328  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are heading $9,000 next week? on: November 25, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
It's pretty safe to say that the $9000 level will be broken before the end of the next week, to be somewhat on the safe side. It could even happen today or tomorrow, but I always prefer to take a wide time frame for my predictions. Interesting will be whether or not we get the much waited for correction between $9000-$10,000 this year. It makes sense to a certain extent, but if we look at the time we're in, it also makes sense for the market to rush up further. It's impossible to get hold of this market and to properly say anything of value, because this market does what it does regardless of the general opinion. I will take some profits as soon as the market hits $9500 in order to anticipate on a potential correction.
Sure! Come to think of it: as btc is not $8500, it needs to go up less than 10% to reach 9 thousand dollars. This won't even look like a big change, actually. But, on the other hand, what about the price correction phenomenon? Is not the current price too high and it needs to be adjusted to the real offer?
Even you are saying about the correction but just suppose it will happen when btc reaches $9500, not $9k. I guess this rapid growth of price is not actually something we should fell great about, for the dump always comes after the pump.
8329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin vs bitcoin on: November 24, 2017, 10:30:06 AM
On your own opinion which of the two  is the best to invest in. Bitcoin is more famous than altcoin and im not that familiar about altcoin. Want to learn more about altcoin from you guys.thanks in advance
Haha, very funny question. Maybe you mean this altcoin https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/altcoin-alt/ ? Then i recommend invest to bitcoin , not this altcoin.
Funny indeed  Cheesy. Talking seriously, though, this one looks like not a bad choice for daily trading. It has regular price drops and pumps.. But yeah, the trading volume is too small even for that.
Well, op, if you meant bitcoin and the realm of other coins then  you have to decide first whether you want a min risk option with chances to have some profit with time or you want to get more risky but, in case you win, truly get high profit. If you choose the first optin then invest in bitcoin, whereas for the second one you then have to decide whether you want to trade (daily) or make an investment (just buy the coin and wait till its price grows). For trading choose a coin which has solid trading volume (from about $500k) and daily cycles of small drops and pumps. For an investment do some research and choose a coin that looks perspective to you. Good luck!
8330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best ICOs? on: November 24, 2017, 10:19:04 AM
Chose the one who have real project, never felt to ICO that guarante you 100% profit quickly today so many ICOs but they just ponzi scheme ico and gonna take your money and leave you with an empty pocket
That is why I believe that the safest way to invest in an ico is to wait till the initial token distribution is over and the coin is listed on first exchanges. The price is usually still low, it might even get lowert than when coins were 'initially offered' and, if the exchange is not a total scam, even if you buy the coins and the price drops - you can still sell them and recover some of your invested money, which you won't be able to do if a coin never gets listed on any exchange.
8331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you know about hard-fork? on: November 24, 2017, 10:08:15 AM
Just read some articles about ICO instead hard-fork. But its not enough info
The way I understood it (and I may be mistaken)

When a change to the block chain is needed/wanted, developers do a hardfork. 

Why?  Because the chain resides in many places and cannot be changed simultaneously and instantly.
How?  By making a full copy of the original, then applying the change(s) to the new one.

There are times when the whole community is in agreement (ideal situation) and the fork will just abandon the old and continue with the new/updated version.

IF there is division and both have enough support then both coins from the fork will continue. Usually, owners of the original coin will also receive a 1:1 qty of the new coin.

Hope this helps a bit.
I think you are mostly right. Examples of hard fork are 2 eth forks and 1 bitcoin fork (a long time ago with no split). Generally, when the chain splits in 2 it is a bad situation, because assets split as well and that results in both versions having price drops in comparison with the original version.
Thre is also a soft work way to make changes (some upgrades) on the original chain, which is less risky. Bitcoin segwit was a soft fork, I guess.
8332  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Bearish] Keep bitcoin away from the real economy, says billionaire on: November 24, 2017, 09:57:17 AM
actually what he said make a sense,
but it will affect the entire economy ? i doubt that it will.
Bitcoin has not prove its usability wholly because there're a lot of problems that we will face when people starting to adopt it in their real life.
for example the transaction and the fees itself,
what make it so special compared to other is its usability,but if the hype continue while nothing change i believe it'll be bad for Bitcoin itself in the future.
also CME listing is a bad move for Bitcoin right now but at the same time,
it's the trigger for people to know about it.
everything is like double edge sword for Bitcoin,they have their own advantage and disadvantage.
Well, I think it can affect global economy. Assume bitcoin is highly adopted by people who don't really care about it as a currency and solely consider it as a good investment. One day the price reaches something outrageous like $50k and people start selling evenrything, because they believe that this price is the best btc can do and the potential sums in fiat satisfy them a lot. So, the hell lot of btc is sold for local fiat. Next these people, having a lot of unexpected by governments money suddenly can afford to buy houses, cars etc. This results in devalvation of local currencies, thus leading the the world crisis.
8333  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Going Mainstream: Really Critical for Bitcoin? on: November 24, 2017, 09:47:26 AM
It could be a good thing, but I think it needs time. If Bitcoin is rushed into the mainstream world without being fully developed people will be conned into using BCH instead. When a good project is rushed to deliver that is when mistakes are made.
I agree that it has to be adopted gradually, but not because otherwise bch will win. If people who barely can pronounce the word 'cryptocurrency' start buying bitcoin 'just in case', the price will rapidly go up with no actual demand for it. Such big steps and major investments in bitcoin can make it crash and those saying it's a bubble be right. I think that we can't objectively say whether btc is a bubble or is not. It is us, btc users and investors, who decide whether it is really worth all that money. And for us not to make it explode we must actually use it, at least in gambling or trading, instead of just holding sums and waiting for the day to sell everything.
8334  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: bittrex, best token to buy on: November 23, 2017, 08:38:48 PM
Bittrex is a one of the most big crupto currency trading site. We have a so many coin in this trading site but we have a more then 20 coin in my bittrex account. Now a days many coin came in to bittrex but all coin is not a best . Those coin is my best coin where we make a good profit as like waves . We make big money with a waves coin so no waves is a best coin
I have seen a video with a guy explaining how to trade funfair daily on bittrex with the use of stocks. I guess this is a nice feature they have out there and maybe funfair is not bad daily. You are saying waves is nice.. Well, I don't believe in it long-term and as the current price seems fair to me, I don't think it is a good option. I hold some ripple on bittrex and hope for it to grow as it signed a contract with a huge partner recently.
Bittrex is nice and easy to use, but it requires identification for getting coins out the exchange and it is a bit annoying.
8335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Congratulations to ETHERIUM reaching all time high on: November 23, 2017, 08:24:06 PM
As you misspelled the name of the coin I thought at first that you're not talking about eth, but mentioning some newly created coin.
Ethereum was very revolutionary in comparison with bitcoin and I think it was obvious it will rise a lot. And it did! Later there began to appear problems with coins. Bitcoin had this block size thing. The transactions still proceed rather long and they are very expensive (I once got 7$ as a regular fee to send about 170 dollars). Eth has another problem: security. As it is a very flexible platform offering many opportunities to users, there are.. holes in the code and so a lot of people lose thir money held in eth. I think that this will not allow eth to grow up to $1k until the problems are solved.
8336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why not buy RISE? I earn 1,000USD a month as passive income on: November 23, 2017, 07:03:04 PM
OP, you are saying that you get $1k passive income per month. This surely sounds great but what was your initial investment into this pool/your monthly costs there? Did you already return the money you spent? For how long have you been doing that? Oh, I see now that it is a pos coin. So, how many of this coins do you proove having for getting such high income?
I think rise doesn't have this main idea that makes it special. I doesn't matter a lot if it provides income, though.
8337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH has shown its greatest growth on: November 23, 2017, 06:51:09 PM
I believe Dash going up the same day we had this bch 150% up thing. Bitcoin cash, as we know, was pumped by Koreans for their own reasons which are not very clear. Dash is also among the coins which they like and trade a lot. So, just when bch started going down rather rapidly, they took over Dash and pumped it about 30% up or so. Reasonable explanations of such things seem not to exist at all, but the coin truly is not so bad.
8338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: electroneum will it beat bitcoin..? on: November 23, 2017, 06:38:42 PM
I think electroneum price will rise, maybe like in the next 1-2 years. The team behind it is doing a very good job and keep inovating it. 1$ per electroneum is very possible I think.  But yeah I believe there is no altcoin at the moment that capable to beat bitcoin.. At least not for now and not anytime soon.
I agree that electroneum has a solid team and good ideas behind the project, but for now they obviously have some problems with this mobile mining thing as number of coins is not defined and the price has been going down since the release. Maybe it will get to 1$ some time later but I guess bitcoin will go up a lot too then, so electroneum will still not surpass, but perhaps we'll see it in the top 10 if the game attracts enough people.
8339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Gold, Hold o sell them? on: November 22, 2017, 10:00:05 PM
Do you think that Bitcoin Gold has a long term future as the BCH style or, on the contrary, it is best to sell them and forget them?
Thank you

I advice to sell and forget.  This project claimed to give individuals good opportunities on mining, as bitcoin is now profitable for mining farms. Some people say that for now it is profitable to mine it. I don't know about that, but undefined number of coins and problems with determining the official airdrop providing btg (it's a story from the past) are not saying anything in favor of the coin. Bch is supported by South Koreans as well as by some believers in original Nakamoto's plans for bitcoin. BTG is a vague and risky project. It's a bit down in price. Just wait for it to go a bit up and sell.
8340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Whats the best ico to new person on: November 22, 2017, 08:04:12 PM
Dear members

Please vote to just clarify whats the best ico to start the crypto future. I already invest some ico, from the ico profits i need to reinvest thats why asking

In the above mentioned the pool. I would like to choose the utrust.
In the month of September and October Utrust is in the list of top three new launced ICO which is best to invest dude.
Then you can invest in the ICO which is I am part of it (propthereum) dude. They have the partnership with the multiple bitcoin investor groups and sites.

Whatever the ICO you gonna choose but read their white paper and blog to understand about the project stability in future.


Yes , i normally read the whitepaper. Some are technical but i read. Sometime i give to someone to translate me.. Utrust not support to some countries.anyway you are ledgendery so i thanks for you to guide us
Don't look at the member status on this forum much. People can be mistaken as well as just not very competent in questions of icos and altcoins. Rank is given for activity only. I am not saying that xIIImaL advice is bad, though.
Nevertheless, I think that you really should rely on yourself only in such questions. I prefer not to invest in icos at all, for they may end up badly and you'll just lose the money. I think it's better to buy the coins which are already listed on exchanges. At least this way you can always sell what you have for something and that minimizes your risks.
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