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8341  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: September 29, 2016, 02:29:32 PM
I plan to keep accumulating, and sometimes trading. I also invest when I see a good opportunity, with real potential to bring good returns.
Trading wont give us good assurance in life there are times that we gonna lose money from trading and also in investment people are too greed in wealth where they gonna use there money for gambling and bad illegal activities there are no assurance that you gonna get your investments.

But at least trading is not the one who takes all of your money from you.
Because when you lose in trading, you just lose part of your total capital.
And there are a lot of opportunities in altcoins.

As we all know  all investment do have risk  on  lossing your money and   as  an investor you should  be already aware on that since  in the beggining when you intend to  invest your money. These losses cant be avoided  since  its already part  on an investment. THe most  important thing  we should do  is  on how we  would able to grow our investments.
8342  Other / Off-topic / Re: how bitcoin is popular in your country ? on: September 29, 2016, 02:26:49 PM
In my country, has not been widely used in daily activity. And many of them who know and have btc spend for invest in hyip or ponzi scam.
it's bad some people still trust hyip and the problem they are invest using bitcoin so when they get scam will tell to anyone "bitcoin is scam".

yeah, problem from the people using, not from bitcoin.

Yes, some people  use this terms  against bitcoin if they  are lost on gambling or any investment or being scammed by someone then they hate  bitcoin and  call it a scam which somehow  give negative  reputation on bitcoin thats why some people would hear about that would  definitely refuse bitcoin. Here in my country bitcoins adoption is increasing.
8343  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Starting a Signature-Ad Campaign on: September 29, 2016, 02:18:28 PM
As others said you dont need the permission to  launch a  signature campaigns  as long  you have all the  things that are commonly needed  on  a campaigns (signature,avatar, escrowed funds, campaign manager, rules of the said campaign)  same as other said  you  just to go  services section and   announce  it  when the  sigcamp is ready. Goodluck.
8344  Other / Off-topic / Re: In 20 years, what would you like to do with your bitcoin? on: September 28, 2016, 02:42:10 PM
In 20 years I would like to get rich with the bitcoin and make a lot of profit with it, I also hope to spend my bitcoin in real life.

If you have lots of bitcoins, lets say  you hold a thousand of bitcoin for sure you would be rich in the future but well  we cant  still guarantee though since we dont know what would be the price in near future.  Thats why its  important for us to save even more bitcoin as of  today  to be beneficial on the long run,
8345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If no one spends bitcoin what might happen? on: September 28, 2016, 02:40:54 PM
In my own  view  if we  assume  it that it would happen on the  current state which  no one would already spent his bitcoin holdings or shall we say  all of us holds our bitcoin on our wallets then it would not  make  the price move since there  no active  event happening  on bitcoins price which is the most important thing    for  able to bitcoin to rise its price.
8346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 28, 2016, 02:29:29 PM
Gambling. Is It Wrong?
Sometimes
Sometimes?
There gamling not some wrong to do, this just game. But anythings looking be wrongs when people do it for wrong ways Smiley
So there like back again to yourself to did all.
Gambling is just a game for me that's youre right because gambling is never wrong for me when we are having fun of it in other people it might looks very wrong because were just wasting our money in the illegal ways money is not easy to get and its not a magic.
A matured person would never call gambling as wrong because they understand that gambling is risky by nature that you need to risk your money to enjoy, what is the most important is whenever you lose you will not think of losing but instead the fun you get in gambling.
Hope even the matured one will never called it wrong some matured are playing gambling for just to waste time not money , and some rich man are really playing gambling for fun they understand already the risk and the nature of that they doing.

Agree. Gambling is for matured one! Not for childish one! That games is for big / adults! Some rich playing gambling just for entertainment and wasting their money in that games! We can say that it is wrong if yyou cant stop playing on it and you have a lot of loans, debts and you borrows someones money.


I don't think so that someone is playing gambling just for wasting money, you can say that these people are addicted to gambling and do gambling on daily basis. But you cannot say that they play gambling  for wasting their money and get entertainment. Everyone play gambling for making more and more money or bitcoins.

Even if they are not intending to waste their money  but they are doing the right thing on lossing  it and  it cant be avoided since they are playing gambling which is designed  to lose all your money. Well there are times that may we won  but  on a little percentage chance only.
8347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: September 28, 2016, 02:25:45 PM
Anything that involves money and expects something in return can be considered as gambling. Even if its not literally money as long as you are expecting something in return out from something that is at stake that can be counted as gambling.

i do not agree with the fact that anything that involves money and expects something in return can be considered gambling in banking terms we can call it an investment and there are many types of safe investments out their, sports betting is in fact gambling as you are not sure about the outcome.

i think maybe gambling is a games with money involve and this is including sportsbetting or betting on sport because if sport that will have money involve is same as gambling, and this is just what in my mind.

For sure  sportbetting is  included  on gambling since you are risking  money to win  money  just  predicting  on the result of the said game. There no question asked, sportbetting is also a gamble  because  of the involvement of  money and as we all know  gambling  is all about winning or lossing which is  present  on sportsbetting.
8348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: September 28, 2016, 02:20:41 PM
Gambling never make me cry this week because i never tried gambling this past week and i love it because i can control my self not to play gambling with the day i lose i don't want to lose more bitcoin because of gambling and i don't have not enough bitcoin so far i want to earn and earn,

Good for  you that you could already  control yourself  on playing bitcoin which you could  somehow avoid  of being getting wrecked on the end. Just  continue  that behavior and aims and for sure you would save  decent amounts of bitcoin on the future  and  remember dont  try to play  gambling  even once.
8349  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it possible to buy bitcoins by paypal? on: September 28, 2016, 02:19:11 PM
As I know, you can buy bitcoin by paypal on e-pincard's website but I don't know how good is this website. Also don't you try to search in google while opening thread?

I hope my post will help you and everyone, who is interested in it.

There is many sites out there, how can we know which one is trustworthy? I think here is not question just about who is selling bitcoins for PayPal, its also important that seller is also protected! Like I sad "The buyer of bitcoins can always perform a chargeback", and with so many PayPal scammers I`m more on side of a seller here.
That is one of the main reasons I don`t have PayPal, and I don`t do any business with it. I found a good guy on localbitcoins for selling my bitcoins, and if I decide to buy it I will go with that way, it`s much more reliable.

True, paypal to bitcoin and bitcoin to paypal does have some issues previously which the  buyers who uses paypal  charge back and scam those sellers of bitcoin thats why  its hard  for sometime to trust regarding with these transactions.  But  we could possibly buy bitcoin on some  services as of now.
8350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 28, 2016, 02:15:57 PM
to gambling in a smart way is we must have experienced with gambling, we must have big capital for learn and speculation if loss

If we have good experience in particular game like poker or in sports matches than there is some chance to survive, all of other games are just based on our luck so that I think there is no previous experience required to play on casino, big capital doesn't give us guarantee to keep us in win win situation.

Agree,  having  big  capital would  not  give us a guarantee that we could make easy wins  in gambling in fact it would  definitely loss all of your  capital in no time  if you are  bad luck enough. Smart way  would  be the times that you  win  decent profit and  you  suddenly stop and dont play again then its a  benefit at all.
8351  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling disease on: September 28, 2016, 02:13:43 PM
As i read many people who gambling with btc.
they looking for easy way to gain btc or even to become rich.
but some people just wasting their btc,
have some guts and confident that they will win big and bigger,
but ended with lost everything they have.
why people always trying to gambling ?
investing can be a good way to gain more but it need time.

is gambling become disease or illness that cant be cured from people mind?
Gambling is disease or illness because it will make people addicted if you can see there are lots of people are now playing gambling and lossing lots of money people try to make profit in gambling but for me it is not good when you are playing gambling and lossing money.

It really never a good thing if you are lossing frequently in gambling and it's totally awful since it can brought us to danger if we decided to still do it eventhough our wallet is drained and we've excessed to our budget in gambling, and i don't see any point that gambling really help since that tantrums is destructable for those people who's easily to get hook with it, and it could turn them into a mess if they will pursue to do so.

The main thought here is that  gambling  on excessive times would  never  do a great thing for us  but would make  more disaster on  our  lifes.  If we intend to play gambling we  must know  on how to control our selves  and we must be aware on our actions so that we dont get easily addicted  into it.
8352  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: September 28, 2016, 02:10:59 PM
Setting up auto buy and sell is good its because you can actually do buy/sell without monitoring but their are bad instance that will happen since you dont really do some monitoring on the coin you wish to trade like missing the higher pumps and you buyed at deeply dump so thats why its better really to monitor since you are risking your money their if you still continue to do that practices, and if you dont have time to monitor well dont do tradings or else you will be sorry for your money out there if the coin you buy are scam.

Auto sell and auto buys would  somehow give us convenience especially when we do trading  since we cant  keep monitoring on our trades anytime and every minute but   the disadvantages is that you would  really miss some times that the price would  be very  low or   would be  to its peak.
8353  Other / Off-topic / Re: When is it useful to borrow bitcoin? on: September 28, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
It is never useful to borrow money in the end you make a loss cause borrowing money costs money so imo it's only worth it when you can turn that borrowed money into even more money.
But you have to be sure cause if you lose the money your screwed cause you have to pay it back still.

Supposed to be the reason to borrow is like that, if we would use it to earn more as a fund for out project, but sometimes others borrow bitcoin just because they want to.. Also, when we borrow, we should be capable to pay since it is not given as free, so collateral is a great stake, so even if you run, the deal is still not screwed and the borrowed money is still paid.

If we  give a strong collateral  for sure no one would  intend to run after all unless if hes crazy enough to do that thing. Its better  to  pay  the debt rather than to run because  if you  build a bad reputation  at first you would  really have a hard time  on making a loan  again next time.
8354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is see the new pump is building up, $660 in 2 weeks on: September 28, 2016, 02:05:45 PM
Nice observation though and  somehow a good  prediction  on bitcoin price that  it would  rise  up on $660 on this year. Well  its good   to reach  that price though but it would be more goo d  if  it surpass even more  on that price point. Well,  we just wait  and see on the  price on year end.
8355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin rate is stable since june 2016 on: September 28, 2016, 01:56:11 PM
I think that the bitcoin rate is stable since June 2016, because nothing exciting has really happened so far and therefore, there is may not be a cause for the big whales to either dump or buy bitcoins.
its really harder now to place position because of this current movement since june im still hoping that it will jumped up to 800 to 1k before this year end.

Agree, its  quite hard to make such  positions  now  especially when  we are trading  with bitcoin but i believe these  times are  the best moment to buy even more bitcoin since i have  the feeling that it would  rise up on the end of 2016. Well  i cant guarantee since  bitcoins  price is  too unpredictable.
8356  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: September 28, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
Why sell every bitcoin if you can keep the other half for further selling or maybe you want to keep them if the price is going to rise you will, only get more from that you know.

Selling all bitcoin as of now on the price of bitcoin would  not be  an ideal thing  since the price isnt  as  high   enough to gain profits. As you said we could  keep  our coins even a little longer if you intend  to sell some then  its better than  selling it all.  Selling would be also big  help the bitcoin ecosystem which  the bitcoin would circulate in order for bitcoin would  grow.
8357  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 28, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
This is going to be very different from person to person. If a person works in a low paying job ant he finds about bitcoin and manages to get work full time on  a crypto project which pays him better, then it makes sense for him to quit his old job and get into the cryto project. On the other hand, if the crypto project which he plans to work doesn't pays him well, then he shouldn't be quitting his day job.
that's true , who the hell want to leave a good paying work for something uncertain?
bitcoin job are suited for a freelancer ,
unless there is a clear job like maintain a mining farm ,
or creating an altcoin project etc ,
you are worth to quit and do that project .

I was guilty of it. I quit my job for bitcoin endeavor like 3-4 months ago. My return after quitting my day job was not even a quarter of my Monthly income. Good thing that I am now working with my clients again and have learned a very valuable lesson to not leave your post when you are not sure enough to where you are going to be.
really? you did it already for serious?
i just wondering what bitcoin job you did that time?
sounds like crazy indeed if you do it for something uncertain job / project ,
you may can consider to quit if you are offered to work on a company like coinbase or similar companies.
Left the real job and possible the biggest source of income, that bring you safety isnt a wise step to do, im sorry you had to learn it on the hard way, developers are able to earn well doing small jobs, but i do believe they keep into their main work, soo they get a extra source into bitcoin, even earning a big ammount with bitcoins i wouldnt left my job, as it will affect in when i wanna retire later.
if you have a passion on something like computer stuff , coding etc ,
i guess it will be worth for you to leave the main job and move to bitcoin job ,
as long as it is have a better paycheck and allowance if there ,
why not you do it?

You are right, even  on myself  if  i posses those skills i would really  leave my daily job since the real opportunity and money is here  on online world you could able to  earn  more money  compared on your daily job. There are  lots of projects  here which really suits  on that skills. but if you dont have skills then its better to stay  on your regular  job.
8358  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin replaces the money? Could happen? on: September 28, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
in present time it is not possible that bitcoin can replace fiat currency because all most all the people of the world are using fiat currency for buying and selling.

Yeah because that is about the adoption of bitcoin and we can see that people are still lack of knowledge about bitcoin. But I guess this is going to happen in the future as many people wants to have convenient transactions and doesn't want to bring cash to their wallets. And the medium for having that is by using bitcoins in the future.
But according to my bitcoin will not be able to replace the money because it was highly unlikely. Bitcoin is a digital currency, and will evolve as digital currency. To be able to make money bitcoin should be adopted by a government and should have a form that can be used directly to make it easier.

And if bitcoin gets in the hands of governments of each country then no doubt they will make it like the money we are using right now, taxes and other things would apply on bitcoins too and then there would be no use of bitcoin replacing the real money.

Yes you are right but i don't think so that bitcoin replace money because fiat is accepted everywhere in the world while bitcoin is accepted only in some stores and in some countries, even some countries have no knowledge about bitcoin. And if it will happen then it will take a very very long time.

Agree, its impossible for bitcoin to replace  fiat since  its dependent  to fiat regarding to its value and even how bitcoin would  be succesful in near future its impossible for it to replace fiat anytime soon. You are correct  paper currency is been used all over the world  and  bitcoin  is just some countries though.
8359  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is earning bitcoin Boring? on: September 28, 2016, 01:42:28 PM
no matter the way for me if i earn small amount of btc for long period is very boring
but if i earn big for short period is very very fun Grin
Yes, all of people thinks is like you, but there are not fast ways for get bitcoin big amount of bitcoins for short period, everything needs hard work, be patient until we get big amount of bitcoins.

The problem is the people think bitcoin is easy money, they think that bitcoin will make they rich, Bitcoin is just a currency... Your work will determine how much you will earn.

Thats the main problem of  some  people  which they think that  bitcoin could  make them rich and  they could able  to obtain  it easily . As you said theres  no easy money here and you would need time and  hard work  to attain it just  like on  physical world  on how we  work hard  just  to get a salary..
8360  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Bitcoin designed to last forever? on: September 28, 2016, 01:38:24 PM
I dont think allot of people will stay for the rest of their lifes into the bitcoin because one day he will drop down that much and rebuild all of it again so that makes very many people sad.

The bitcoin price is volatile. But as long as it is under good development, the price will rise in the long term.
of course it is volatile because it depends only on people and nothing else and i think it is a really good thing

Its volatile because there are lots of  people who uses it thats why  its  keeps moving its price and thats a normal thing for bitcoin. In fact bitcoin was created  for many reasons it may not last forever but we could somehow assure that it would last for a long time as long there are people who still uses and  buy it.
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