It was sad to see the bad end. I had a chat with icopress. It was about the Ledger devices. While I don't trust Ledger anymore, I don't trust Betnomi too now. Since these Ledger devices were coming through Betnomi who had a long plan to scam forum members, who knows they could alter the devices too. So if anyone have a ledger device from Betnomi, I would say use it cautiously.

Trusdice is just doing a cross marketing. Many people don't like it but it's understandable, in marketing a business needs to take every opportunity they have.

Consistency is what you need. You missed one or two rounds, don't give up. I had roller coaster ride in the last Premier League pool. I think I started from top10 in few rounds then I was not even in top40. Then improved and continued in top15 for few rounds before seeing myself not even in top30. Nothing was working for me, even I missed few games to pick. Almost was giving up. But some members were insisting and suggesting to continue. At the end I think I finished 12th. Own 0.005 btc. It's not the coin I won, it's about the ride I had.

Don't give up even if you see you are out of the competition. Consistency will bring something for you.

From Premier League pool experience I know there will be people who will join even after ending of one or two rounds. But PL pool could be different. I think worldwide PL has the highest popularity and reach. So, no wonder we can have 40 to 50 members in PL very easily but in other leagues having 20 is harder.

I really hope we will have many members and the sponsors will feel happy to sponsor again next year.

You could chose Liverpool. All anti City fans are welcome in Liverpool. 😉

Someone who have good knowledge about clubs and their activities in the management can make good money from side bets. There are always people to disagree and if you are in the right side then you win it. Two seasons ago, I think I lost two side bets. I decided not to argue with some of these guys anymore LOL

A no deposit bonus is killer in both way.
It's good when the system have good anti-fraud detecting system in placed.
It's bad when it become out of control. There are people who create bots and continue creating accounts to claim the bonus. I hope that's not the case for them because their customer support will verify the authenticity to check if the person is a Betnomi victim.

Too late, they are long gone LOL
The story of Betnomi.com (Exit Scam) : This is something fresh for you to study.

By the way, don't cry later if the ledger wallet steal your crypto, who knows may be Betnomi created a backdoor in that device and when you will store something they will steal it. Are you not aware of Ledger recent update 😉?

Can you please create flag against all the accounts that are belong to Betnomi. I will request OP to collect all the flags and accounts' URLs then add it on the main thread body. It will help all of us to support the flags and leave negative feedback.

No, I don't believe you. LOL
First in CL and 8th in PL.  You are next level that I have seen so far. Hopefully not anymore [LOL again]

The last time I was counting it was 10, now I see one more added. Good job. Come one people, join!
Good luck for the new project. We can expect another new signature campaign from cro2?

Acknowledging the PM you sent me with superbru link.

The bitcoin message was signed from a very known address.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264620.msg54926472#msg54926472


Feel free to verify The finger print that was signed by the bitcoin address above.
https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?search=50D97A35B67286DFB91DDF3D63B152DEFEC7283D&fingerprint=on&op=index


You can send an encrypted message using the public key you see on the server. I will decrypt it for you which will eventually verify the legitimacy.

I am glad you asked for it [even when it was there already].

Nice to meet you too satscraper. I like your username by the way. Continue scrapping those sats however you can.

Who is next to encrypt me something?

Correct. I hope they don't struggle anymore now

When the negative was left at that time if you read the feedback then you will see there were lack of taking care of the accusations, not providing convincing explanations, denying payments. Even when they were asked they were repeating inconvincing/unrelated response.

Let's see an example:

So when you are requested to collaborate to clear an accusation but in response you continue response like this which do not have any evidence to support you, how many times you think you will feel ok [!] everything is good?

The reason I removed the negative feedback is because from holydarkness collections on his last post I see the accusations are reducing, it looks like they are solving accusations. If it was left the same like it was before when the feedback was given then you would not see I changed the mind. Your vouch worked to remove any other doubts too that was still left.

The feedback seemed wrongful to you because you saw evidence [I trust that they indeed showed you evidence] but it was not wrongful to everyone else [public domain] of us because there were nothing that were shown to us, nothing given to us to feel comfortable that Rollbit is in the right road.

Anyway, I think you are giving too much to them. Rollbit really needs to improve their forum relation, it's not something you can fix for them. Just because spending money in advertising does not mean anything about them will be overlooked. This time you took the matter in your hand. Would you do the same next time too or even 3rd time? I don't think it will be a good idea. So ask them to improve. If they don't then don't trust but verify will become obvious otherwise.

Don't misunderstand me, I am on your side. I assume you are aware of Betnomi right now. Imagine [keep it in imagination only] if any such thing happen with Rollbit tomorrow or in the very near future, don't you think you will be questioned before anyone else? Don't give too much to one project. You have many projects to take care and forum needs members like you.

Nice to have our first successful submission. Great job. I liked the confusion of the gender thinggi 😂. Let's keep it that way.

Considering the difficulty from some members including you, I generated a new key and OP is updated with the new one. I hope, now you will have your due entertainment.

Previous, which is invalid once this will be posted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159946.msg58518519#msg58518519
Reason, key was not in use.

New key information.

Signed with staked bitcoin address:


Pubic key can be downloaded from the fingerprint however just in case below can be useful too.

No question. I believe you. My speculation was wrong. We are good. Coincidental timing between two feedback [F**k I removed it even before making the last post] accepted.

But wrongful negative tag? You sure it was wrongfully given. Even after my TED report? You are not able to see a case against Rollbit or any company where you are working like the way I will see. I have no interest [receive personal benefit] where you have benefits.

Your TED talk report was read very carefully and I have no problem trusting your opinion on any matter. You earned it from the years of dedication from the profession.

But in this specific matter please help me to believe that you were not asked by your employer to do something about it. I can not know what talk you had in between you and your employer but I can speculate, I could be totally wrong in my speculation.

I was closely following some of the cases against Rollbit at that time, I think in a few occasions I PMed their PR and requested to resolve things, I was just helping them to clean the accusations. I know when a business invest in the forum, it benefits the forum ecosystem, it helps bitcointalk forum to grow and become stronger. So when I find any negative vibration against any establish business, I always try to give them benefit of the doubt and try to keep them out of dart as much as I can but when something become too obvious and looks too odd which become hard to convince myself then I do things that I don't want to do. The forum is first after all.

My speculation, you saw the negative feedback I left, you were not completely sure what to do. On the other hand, you needed to make things easier too. So your immediate action was to leave a feedback of your experience with Rollbit over the years of relationship you had.

I don't disagree with the feedback you left, sure you are working for them for long two years, without having a good relationship with them, you could not continue the campaign. So your feedback is absolutely correct. But what absolutely wrong about this feedback was, it came just after a feedback that was left there to make others aware that Rollbit is not taking proper care of the accusations coming against them, they deny the payment, don't even give a good explanation. It happened in several occasions if I remember correctly or I would not even think about leaving the negative feedback.



Thank you. You are always helpful with information and update. I must give another benefit of doubt since I see there are not many new cases are made against Rollbit.

JollyGood, I am thinking of a promotion to collect all the good talks you give about me whenever you have a chance and reward some btc to the collectors. May be you start a reverse engineering tactic to empty my wallet. 15,555 posts [huge, huge contribution, unbelievable, If 1 Ratimov = 1000 Bitcoingirl then it looks like 1 JollyGood = 1200 Bitcoingirl. I am nobody and PROVED] made so far. You understand what I mean? This will be your chance to make me homeless.

@theymos, can I change my nick to Mr. Nobody please 🙄

Removed the bitcoin signed message. Finger print placed out of the quote. Hopefully the confusion is not there anymore.

The public key is good. I think no one should have a problem if he is trying properly.

So nice responses with supporting tools and information are already posted. Good job. When is the first encrypted message I am going to receive?

Sadly we are dealing with some completely newbies who don't have any idea how this flag system works or even how to create one.

@Stayzor, answering you in this post, not in the PM because let's help someone else too who doesn't know how to do the same.

You want to create a flag against the account betnomi
[1.] You will need to create a topic [scam accusation topic] where you will provide as many evidence as you can and describe your case. Scam accusation guideline https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0
[2.] Go to betnomi trust page.
Profile ---------------> Trust : You are here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2532772
Scroll down and look for a link text called "add a flag" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=2532772
[3.] Everything else are self explaining.

If you find me not responding you quickly, you can just leave your questions for everyone. Many will show you how to do a flag properly.

Not sure why ltcrstrbrt is not active or did he really abandoned his account but it seems he was defending himself. I had to refresh my mind and gave a quick read of some of the posts. It seems like even though he is a legendary account he does not have enough knowledge of how merit works. We can not blame a person for it if they are not active in the forum, very occationally if they are logging in, checking whatever they want and logging out. It seems I left my statement there too.

What odd is that these excited forum police gang are too quick to conclude anything based on few set up experiences they only experienced in their small life like [a.] someone exchange merit to someone oddly = They are alt, they traded merit [b.] someone wrote something similar to others, once twice, thrice = they are alt [c.] someone they don't like to argue with = make his feedback page their personal note [d.] someone posted someone else address = they both owned by one person and more one or two scripted logics. These police will interrogate, harass you, disrespect you until you are completely silent and lost everything. They are doing it constantly and forum is losing many members for them. So anything coming from them should be double checked, triple checked, before taking the accusation seriously. They just love it to see another forum member gone down.

I guess we have no way to know or at least I have any interest to know anything about him. If i am interested to hear anything from anyone then it's the accuser loginsam45 .