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841  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: August 11, 2017, 10:48:24 AM
Hello,

Our Dev team along with Booming Games are working hard to resolve the issue as soon as possible.
No one is getting ripped off, we are noting down all the FJ usernames who have reported the crash.
Currently, we are discussing disabling Booming Games until the issue has been resolved. If it can not be resolved today, Booming Games will be unavailable until we have the fix.
Kindly, accept our apologies, this was something none of the sides noticed until players started to report.
We will update you by the end of the day.

Thank you for your patience and understanding, everyone.

Edit: Will get back to your affiliates/poker room questions after the mentioned issue with Booming Games has been resolved Smiley

Im assuming the Booming Games 75% deposit bonus wont be removed/expire until after these issues are resolved?

No, it won't, we are working on it.
Until then Booming Games are unavailable.


Wow. So instead of honoring the following games I got free spins on with different bet amount:

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You guys are doing:



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This is just plain and simply defrauding your users.

I had several free games as listed above and here:
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Santas Kiss .3MBTC
Legend of Qu Yuan .6MBTC bet free spins
Booming Gold .2MBTC free spins
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Which obviously is at least 60 free games at different bet amounts that would obviously have a decent chance to pay something out + I still have 0.02984750 bonus balance 12% wagered

And you find it fair to just simply RESET the bonus balance to the original amount being 0.0388575 BTC + either :

20% extra balance totaling .046629

OR

25 free spins on a short list of the worse games for Pragmatic play which are most likely at the lowest bet amount


And you find that to be fair?

Wow. There you go guys. They claimed we would be getting the free games/bonus we won on Booming Games + would be getting compensation for their bait.

Instead they offer something worse, such a great honest company  Angry



Basically this is how it works based off of their resolution.

If you play and LOSE - they simply keep your bitcoin.
However, if you play and hit the bonus which potentially puts you in the WIN column
They can simply disconnect the game's servers, reset the casino management console, and claim software error and refund your handful of bets from that specific session.

If you LOSE you LOSE.
If you WIN oops software error so REFUNDED
This is an excellent business model!!
If you were ensuring that the house wins... every time! 
Then it's really not even gambling because it's not risking your bitcoin.
It's simply giving it away. FortuneJack Bitcoin Charity Fund.
Have too much bitcoin? Great bc FJ has current promo.
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But don't worry. After we take all your coins.
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Sorry about the trouble you are facing with FJ right now but they've had issues before and none in my knowledge is ever unresolved though, some may have taken sometime.

I know waiting can be frustrating sometimes, but I would say to be a little bit more patient in this case. Hopefully they will compensate you with this trouble.(Natalie always do this). Cheesy

I agree, that is how things roll in Fortune Jack. They are one of the top casinos and they have never had issues with scams or not paying their players.
If there are problems with the site or games in it, for sure Fortune Jack's support team would likely help you with your issues.
842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know if a gambling site is scam or not? on: August 11, 2017, 10:45:31 AM
I wonder how you do your research if a gambling site is scam or not?
You can search on Google sites on what gambling sites are just a scam. And if you really wanted to play then try to bet small amount that you can just afford to lose. And don't believe on a huge free bets.

Most of the time that is what I do. Whenever I see a new gambling site either through ads or through the forum, I try a quick google search before I even try to deposit.
Usually I get redirected back tot he forum and sometimes I find them in gambling site reviews. I prefer to look at real user experience than gambling site reviews,
since most of those are in it to promote their affiliate links or they are paid to advertise.
843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I've been banned from every decent UK bookmaker - Where next? on: August 11, 2017, 10:17:24 AM
I don't think you can get banned from playing if you just winning legitimately. Likely OP has been doing something bad that would result in his bans.
I am not sure why he mentioned trading, I think it is no where near sports gambling or even gambling in general.
844  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bet on WWE on: August 11, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
www.anybet.eu has WWE betting with bitcoin
Seriously? That site will get wiped. Wiped fast!
Continuously this thread has been criticized that these games are rigged or scripted.
But these sites just keeps on trying to be stupid to offer these kinds of bets.
845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: August 10, 2017, 05:55:36 PM
I just gambled with my own money with small bankroll. Gambling on sidelines between time and with aim looking for profit. There is no problem in my life can solve using gambling.
"looking for profit" is totally the worse thing you could do. And I think this is a gambling excuse we do so that we can gamble.
We tell ourselves that, "I'm gambling because I can profit." The truth of the matter is, gambling is the business of the casinos.
They are the ones that should profit, not gamblers. Don't you guys think about how casino are still alive all this time, if the
gamblers can win against them?
846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: August 10, 2017, 05:48:33 PM
Well i use my earnings now for personal purposes because i want to get some business with my money soon and i want to earn not only on bitcoin i dont rely on gambling because when i get too attached from it maybe i will lose everything so i discipline my self to avoid playing too much.

I could judge that you are good gamble, because as you mention it is only good gamble said that. I always play gambling in a discipline way, then if i got lose, it is affordable lose. But out of discipline always give me too much lose. Then i feel better to quit gambling. But now gambling suit me, and now i am saving with my winning money. But if you save you winning for some business then hope in future your dream will come true.

Didn't understand what you just said. But seems like you want to say that discipline is a good way of limiting losses.
Yeah it is, since you can just also limit the amount of money you are willing to lose and know when to withdraw.
Just deposit a small amount and withdraw if you get your desired amount of winnings, that's how you play
847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do? on: August 10, 2017, 05:38:48 PM
if i facing similar situations just like you said then i would go all in for next bets because it's already deep so rely on my luck would be my last options although very often the results are not according to my thought but this is gambling and i do realize that


At that point usually there is really little left to gamble with, so why not just go crazy with it right? Usually the last balance will not be enough to get back what you lost
especially if you want to do it slowly like how you gambled the rest of your money. That is why, it is nice to just try your luck by doing an all in bet with a crazy low chance.
848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: August 10, 2017, 04:36:44 PM
I have never won any big some of money in gambling so I haven't bought anything big as my winnings were always small and limited so whatever I win either I invest in trading or else continue to gamble with the won money.
You should reward yourself with the money you earn in playing gambling even its not to big .By continuing in playing you will only give a a chance to lose your money instead of enjoying your profit. I much prefer what you said to invest it in trading.

I agree that trading is a good place to invest and whatever you win you should put in trading from where you can earn regular income in terms of profits as gambling again and again with won money will not always give you positive results.
You are not actually investing in trading, you are gambling instead and doing day trading is a good definition of gambling as you are waiting for the best timing to sell your asset higher than the amount you spend in buying it.

However, in gambling the success does not come all the time or even most of the time so it's just fair to reward ourself by maybe spending it all having fun.

How can you say that I am gambling with my money if I am investing in trading? I invest in trading only after doing a research and never invest in any coin blindly and if I am depending only on luck to make profits in trading then you can say that I am gambling with my money.

I don't think a lot of people are doing large amount of trading without first making preparations. Perhaps some buy or sell with tips from outside but still, i don't think anyone would be foolish enough to trade blindly. You have the same chance there as playing dice if that's how you do it.
That is true, a trader must be well equipped before he starts trading. There is no second chance at trading nor in gambling. So, the problem with trading is that you really need to know what you are doing to profit from it. Without knowing anything in trading that would just result to playing dice in an exchange.
849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Open AI Gambling Bot/Discussion on: August 10, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
So Recently Elon Musk announced the Open AI as we know, If you don't know about "Open AI" just google it, It is basically a bot which learns from visual input and becomes a master at doing whatever it is trained on(Given enought time), It can master any Atari game and can even predict stock prices by given it the proper data, so i was wondering what if somebody trains it on Poker or Dice game? It will be the perfect player, far better than the human and could probably make websites go bankrupt, as there is no defeating to an AI. From what i am seeing the future will be AI's Playing against each other. The person who will have a better AI player will win the most bets, Let me know what do you think about it.


Also If anybody in their spare time can train it on Poker or a simple Head Tail game, Do share your results it will be interesting to see.

It seems you are still a newbie at gambling to even think like this. Gambling can never be learned by an AI, even if it does it cannot counteract the effects of randomness. Can an AI predict the future? If it can then it would win the dice games. If there was a fixed strategy in gambling, then there would have been super rich people from just gambling and all the casinos will go down.
850  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: August 10, 2017, 04:10:31 PM
Go back and look at most of my posts on this thread. This casino has been nothing but problems after problems. They really do not care about its players...
Problems can arise in any casino and in gambling platforms like FJ which is handling thousands of player at a time with games from lots of third party softwares, it is quite common to have problems. Also they care about their players and they try to fix all those issue on time, they have already responded to recent issue here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.msg20707412#msg20707412

If you had problems here again and again, why do you still play here? I don't think I've encountered and problems here and I think the customer service of Fortune Jack has been the most friendliest and professional people I've talked to. They reply in seconds and they don't go away till they have a solution for you.
851  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: August 10, 2017, 04:02:41 PM
Bitcoin is an investment for me so I choose to save it for future purposes and don't want to spend even a small amount of it at a moment as I believe that bitcoin can go even beyond $10k price in future and that would be the time to spend my bitcoins.

I agree, it is actually just a matter of time. So I would advice anyone to just simply invest more into bitcoins and wait till that time. It will happen and it will be a glorious day for everybody that holds bitcoins. Right now, I really think bitcoins are still undervalued and it will still go up till even $100,000 in the future. As there is only a fix amount of it, the supply can never fill the demand.
852  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do you sell your bitcoin or convert to usd? on: August 10, 2017, 03:52:53 PM
do you sell your bitcoin or convert to usd?

I am not sure what's the question is about. You are asking if
1. I sell my bitcoins?

or

2. I convert to usd?

Those two questions are kinda the same. So I don't know what you're asking really.

Or maybe this is just the question of "Do you sell your bitcoins for USD?" perhaps?
853  Economy / Economics / Re: stable currency on: August 10, 2017, 02:46:57 PM
i was just wondering
how much more time BTC needs to become a little more stable?
in past 24 hours BTC exchange rate have increased 19.1%

i am not really sure why it went down on the first place
but i am happy that they are UP now
& i am still wondering what make the price increase :/


to be honest i dont know much about the tech.
all i know is the rate is decided by the trading ratio & volume...

and according to news 2 largest dark web market(alphabay & hasana) have been shutdown by feds
& i think that most of the BTC transaction come from dark web......
so closing of those market should decrease the trade volume
and it should affect the price......
so down it mean that exchange rate will decrease again??
Its very hard for bitcoin to become a stable currency.Bitcoin is a decentralized currency uncontrolled by any central body unlike fiat currencies which are controlled by governments.So,bitcoin price either increases or decreases with increase or decrease in demand for bitcoins.So,volatility is its nature.
If we are looking about the stable crypto and we can use tether, but the volatility just like a rule in crypto, because there is no party that controlled the market. I mean it's about the double coincidence.
Bitcoin just like a nature form of the demand and supply.
It seems to me that these races may not be natural. It's more like a game of whales. Nobody knows how many bitcoins they hold. They can easily manipulate prices on the market. The more bitcoins will be in the hands of ordinary users, the more stable the currency.

I agree though that will happen in time. They will not hold those coins forever. There would come a time that they need to cash out some of their bitcoins and that would stabilize the price as it could now be distributed. Bitcoins does not behave like normal currency, it is like stocks. There is a majority stock holder, that is why its prices goes up and drop when that majority stock holder dumps too.
854  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-08-07]Bitcoin Price: Oops, BTC Did it Again! on: August 09, 2017, 06:57:03 PM
A few days ago bitcoin prices dumped to about $1,800. I should have bought at that price, I would have profit almost double if I did.
Sometimes I just pussy out even if I know it was already the right time to buy and the right time to sell. It's just really scary to think about.
855  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Purchases on: August 09, 2017, 06:35:27 PM
Generally no. There is really no website or list that would enumerate all the shops, services, etc. that are accepting bitcoins right now.
It is like saying, which sites accept paypal or cash? That would be extremely hard to list and would be just a waste of time.
If you need something for bitcoins just do a quick search on google.
856  Economy / Economics / Re: CNBC hosts are worried about BTC being x3 oz of gold on: August 08, 2017, 10:26:30 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2017/08/07/bitcoin-hits-all-time-high.html?play=1

This is a must see. It's fun to see these clueless guys at "this bitcoin thing" going so high. They said they are worried because now BTC is worth 3 times an oz of gold. If only they knew this is only the beginning.

I think it will take for BTC to reach $10,000 for them to accept the new Bitcoin reality, it's then when all of these rich boomers will be getting into BTC and the price will go parabolic.

They actually don't know what they are talking about. XD

Well generally there are more gold oz than there would be 1 bitcoin. Bitcoins have a set number of 21,000,000 bitcoins and gold has not been determined if how much we can mine but it would definitely be more than 21,000,000 oz of gold that has already been mined.
857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Scammed 16 coins taken on: August 08, 2017, 10:12:00 PM
So I fucked up big time. I bought 16 bitcoins back in 2011 and have had them stored all these years. When the bch split happened I got online and was searching for how to claim them, I followed a tutorial video, it has since been removed, and like a complete idiot I gave my recovery phrase to the website blockchain-bitcoininvestment.info. Believe me I now know how stupid that was. They drained me immediately. All my funds were sent to this address 1Be7Ej9WA8ioDuqrRKCaGcCBM6Uu3Mci53. I am aware that there really isnt anything that can be done. I just hope others dont make the same mistake I did, It seriously sucks. Be careful out there one fucking mistake can have some really shitty results

I would just like to say, good job. That was the best thing you ever did. What I always say whenever I am on the internet is

"Trust nobody!"

There are 4 more scammers after every legit person. That's for sure. Scammers are lazy as mofos that just try to steal from people.
And because there are more lazy people compared to those that work hard, we see more scammers.
858  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Question on: August 08, 2017, 09:40:02 PM
In theory it will make a difference. I haven't tried this but what I think is that it will result to another output.

So in your example,

1bdbdbasbfdff213213, 0.1
1bdbdbasbfdff213213, 0.05

this will result in an additional output. Which means more fees for the sender if you use a dynamic fees.

Not to mention this would add another input when the address "1bdbdbasbfdff213213" sends a transaction using both the 0.1 and 0.5 coins.
If there is really no good reason why you want to do this, I suggest just don't do it. It just makes it more complicated for everybody including you.
859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about the other crypto currencies that exist? on: August 08, 2017, 09:09:37 PM
Believing it it or not there makes no difference. What matters is if they have something to offer that cannot be offered by other cryptocurrencies.
If only one believes in the coin then there is no point. If there would be a lot of people that are convinced that the altcoin is worth something because
it has some sort of real life use, then that would make that altcoin worth something;.
860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 04, 2017, 08:18:47 AM
    Well it could also be good for you if you set limitations to what you are currently doing and even more importantly in gambling. We already know that gamblin is way too risky, so as for prevention, you must better have some limits like the doctors keep on saying prevention is better than cure. It is also applicable in different aspects.
True better to limit you self also to avoid lossing too much from gambling i dont mind the fun as long as i earned there i withdraw my profit and never played for a week  it can also cure you im agree because once you already limit and discipline your self then it can be done ao much things

Expecting profits is still a bad habit everybody should break. Gambling is not a for profit activity for us gamblers. Profiting in gambling is for the operators of the gambling sites. Statistically, they will win over the gamblers in the long run. So don't ever expect that. Given that fact, it is best to just set limits. Since you know you will lose everything then that means you will should just limit your exposure.
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