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841  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way... on: May 02, 2013, 12:10:06 AM
PHP isn't very good for scaling, every request is a totally separate action and it doesn't look like they're using caching. What PHP is good for is small stuff because it's quick and easy to understand.

BTW, disabling diagnostic errors on public-facing sites is COMPSCI101 stuff. If this happened on a webapp I'd worked on I would be fired on the spot.

I agree... someone is going to get ... schooled ... tomorrow.  I'm very displeased at the moment.
842  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs just sent me an update e-mail! on: May 02, 2013, 12:08:43 AM
Your order status should say processing I believe.
843  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs just sent me an update e-mail! on: May 01, 2013, 11:59:43 PM
The "Some text here" appears to be a javascript error on older browsers, I believe.

I have no idea where this ridiculous rumor about a broken wafer got started.  One of the trolls making stuff up again, I'd wager.


I think Jody said she dropped her Nilla Wafer in her Milk and then it just took off from their...

Probably a #@$#@ chicken in the wires.  CHICKS IN THE WIRE MAN!  CHICK IN THE WIRE!
844  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs just sent me an update e-mail! on: May 01, 2013, 11:41:52 PM
Hmm, not sure where it's being generated from then.  I'm not sure how to trigger it locally here.
845  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs just sent me an update e-mail! on: May 01, 2013, 11:32:33 PM
The "Some text here" appears to be a javascript error on older browsers, I believe.

I have no idea where this ridiculous rumor about a broken wafer got started.  One of the trolls making stuff up again, I'd wager.
846  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs just sent me an update e-mail! on: May 01, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
Account server is overloaded at the moment.  I would wait awhile before trying again... you have plenty of time, it's not like your orders will be canceled today or anything.
847  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: May 01, 2013, 07:49:34 PM
The current generation of hardware doesn't really any other uses, unless you have another alt coin or application that does double round SHA256. 

848  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Wafer Broke? on: May 01, 2013, 07:37:19 PM
Agreed to a certain extent. But still, common sense if nothing else tells you to treat people who have given you, or may give you money, with some respect.

Respect is earned and not bought, if someone behaves like an idiot I expect them to be treated like an idiot independent of the size of their wallet.

This is pretty much the long and short of it.  If you actually go back in my post history and look at the people who approach me in a rational, honest way, they get the same in response.  Approach with an irrational, trollish way, spouting lies and BS... well, you get what you deserve.  Take k9quaint and PL as prime examples.  Every post they make for the most part contains at least one lie or falsehood, doctored up to support their flawed positions and irrational hatered of BFL, so they get the same in return.  In contrast, take any post that has a mature tone and rational content, and you'll see my responses are equally rational and helpful.  The problem is, Bitcointalk has very little of the latter and is comprised almost entirely of the former.

849  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Wafer Broke? on: May 01, 2013, 04:19:07 PM
Not sure about any BFL Wafers breaking, but judging from Josh's behavior on the forums lately, I think his mind may be breaking.

Can anyone over there at BFL try to slip some lithium or anti-psychotics in his drinks, please ?

It is just absolutely mind-boggling how his leash-holders allow him to continue like he does in public. Has developed this split-personality complex that Inaba/BFL_Josh-Zerlan are two different personalities !

I mean name calling ? Is he still in grade school ? This is the public face of Butterfly Labs ?

For shame !

EDIT: Speak of waffles, perhaps we should send Josh a Blue Waffle ?
I don't think it's fair to characterize using a different voice in different contexts as "psychotic."  Do you speak to your boss the exact same way as you speak to your close friends?  No, you use different filters in different contexts.  He's on record as saying that Inaba is Josh speaking as Josh (unfiltered), and BFL_Josh is Josh speaking as the BFL rep.

Whether that's a good idea is debatable, but hardly "psychotic."

I can understand people being upset with BFL, but the level of willful distortion lately on the part of detractors is off the charts.  If you want to criticize someone effectively, you need to keep a modicum of credibility for yourself.

Different voice is right.

I had not given it much thought, but now that you bring it up I don't know. Josh doesn't seem to have any empathy towards anyone who might have an issue with BFL. Quite the opposite actually. He is persistently hostile, and from our point of view very manipulative. According to the stats, psychopaths make up as much as 1% of the population so it is not out of the realm of possibility that Josh could be one.

Manic depressive disorder would also explain his outbursts. He seems to disappear for lengthy periods, only to burst onto the scene calling people liars and trolls but seldom addressing the underlying issues. He does not seem rational or have any patience.


Except, you're the one obsessing about BFL and me personally, heh.  You might want to check yourself Smiley


Problem is Josh, i am one of your customers, for example. And your company has one goal: Making money.

And the way you act in the forum might have brought me to a point of saying NO WAY IN HELL AM I ORDERING FROM THEM.
Actually, the behaviour makes me feel I should ask paypal and you guys to refund me and buy avalon chips instead.

Now I don't know if you have stake or just salary in the company. But whatever it is, someone is getting hurt if you show this image that pisses people off. It does not matter if you don't care, customers do. I have coached many professionals and this kind of issue is a classic derailer. And it is the derailer that if not fixed, in my experience has led to somewhere between 70-80% getting fired.

If you have stake, you are probably burning your own preorder money right now by behaving like this. People are always watching.

The problem is, for everyone one of you that says NO WAY IN HELL there are three others that are refreshed by the fact that I don't cater to whiny customers, so the point is really moot. 

If you don't like it, don't order.  Vote with your wallet.
850  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Received BFL Jalapeņo Today! on: May 01, 2013, 04:15:35 PM
Yep, to be classified as a BFL shill on Bitcointalk, you must:

a) Be rational
b) Be able to evaluate what you read without rage and bias
c) Post according to your evaluation
d) Not be mentally unbalanced

That's the only requirements to be a BFL shill.

851  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Received BFL Jalapeņo Today! on: May 01, 2013, 04:12:53 PM
Garsh!  I wonder why we've been delayed?  It couldn't be because there was a problem, could there?  Garsh!  

The level of stupidity displayed by Syke and the crew is absolutely astounding.  I mean, even a child can understand problem + delay = things not working.  Seriously, what mental breakdown is required for someone to be so oblivious as to not understand the basic fundamental principal of cause and effect?  I find it difficult to believe someone can be so incredibly stupid and still be able to use a computer.  So that leaves willful trolling... which pretty much explains Syke and the rest.

And that, folks, is why Syke, PuertoLibre, k9quaint, et al are complete wastes of humanity.  They are the ones that wreck this forum for everyone else and prevent any sort of sane, rational, mature discourse.


852  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Wafer Broke? on: May 01, 2013, 04:07:33 PM
Not sure about any BFL Wafers breaking, but judging from Josh's behavior on the forums lately, I think his mind may be breaking.

Can anyone over there at BFL try to slip some lithium or anti-psychotics in his drinks, please ?

It is just absolutely mind-boggling how his leash-holders allow him to continue like he does in public. Has developed this split-personality complex that Inaba/BFL_Josh-Zerlan are two different personalities !

I mean name calling ? Is he still in grade school ? This is the public face of Butterfly Labs ?

For shame !

EDIT: Speak of waffles, perhaps we should send Josh a Blue Waffle ?
I don't think it's fair to characterize using a different voice in different contexts as "psychotic."  Do you speak to your boss the exact same way as you speak to your close friends?  No, you use different filters in different contexts.  He's on record as saying that Inaba is Josh speaking as Josh (unfiltered), and BFL_Josh is Josh speaking as the BFL rep.

Whether that's a good idea is debatable, but hardly "psychotic."

I can understand people being upset with BFL, but the level of willful distortion lately on the part of detractors is off the charts.  If you want to criticize someone effectively, you need to keep a modicum of credibility for yourself.

Different voice is right.

I had not given it much thought, but now that you bring it up I don't know. Josh doesn't seem to have any empathy towards anyone who might have an issue with BFL. Quite the opposite actually. He is persistently hostile, and from our point of view very manipulative. According to the stats, psychopaths make up as much as 1% of the population so it is not out of the realm of possibility that Josh could be one.

Manic depressive disorder would also explain his outbursts. He seems to disappear for lengthy periods, only to burst onto the scene calling people liars and trolls but seldom addressing the underlying issues. He does not seem rational or have any patience.


Except, you're the one obsessing about BFL and me personally, heh.  You might want to check yourself Smiley
853  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Received BFL Jalapeņo Today! on: May 01, 2013, 04:23:34 AM
k9quaint, you, once again, are apparently too dense to understand the difference between being wrong and "misrepresentation."  Since you're unable to even differentiate between two very simple words, we really don't have much to discuss.  I recommend trying to learn basic English before trying to debate me.  You're pathetic it at.

But lets look at the BFL clown crew:  Tom is a scammer, no surprise there.  BitcoinINV, another scammer... no surprise there. CreativeX is still around trolling, as is Syke. Cedivad and Abracadabra have a BFL order now, shocker.  ElectricMusic has stopped? He drops in to troll now and again, but I've had him on ignore for a long time.  Abracadabra... yep BFL order.  That leaves SolarSilver.

Let's tally:

9 BFL clown crew total.
2 Scammers
2 BFL converts
4 Trolls still trollin' hard
1 MIA (SolarSilver)

So yeah... 44% still trolling, 22% BFL, 22% scammers and 11% Other. Gonna go with: k9quaint: FAIL
854  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order? on: May 01, 2013, 04:11:47 AM
But there's a flaw in your plan bassclef (and PuertoRetard, Smoothie and Frizz) ... I settled up with Runeks more than a week ago.  Awww, too bad.  Guess you guys really are dumbasses.  Here's what I propose, you three idiots get a scammer tag for posting verifiable false information for the past several days, trying to scam people into believing that BFL is a scam, when in truth, you folks are just lying sacks of shit.

855  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order? on: May 01, 2013, 01:14:37 AM
if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates.

How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't.

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

...
BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.
Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today.  (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today.  Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you.  I can't quite put my finger on why...




are you still debating this silly point?? is this the only argument you can win?


That and every other debate I enter into.  Disagree?  Post evidence.  Tired of people like you who make wild claims but are unable to back up their claims.  Thanks for playing though.
856  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Received BFL Jalapeņo Today! on: May 01, 2013, 01:12:19 AM
BFL has been caught in so many misrepresentations to date, all of which has been documented to death on this forum.
People claim there is no evidence of "intent". While defending their specs they made claims about the state of their chips and performance measurements of units that supposedly existed. Given what we know now, those claims could not possibly have been merely in error.

Except... that's not really true.  Not terribly surprising coming from you, but none the less.  Trolls like you like to trot this out but to date, not a single one has been able to produce any evidence to back up this claim.  Meanwhile, in reality-land, I have provided numerous links and evidence to the contrary.  It's funny how you make these claims but never once back up your statements, but you keep at it, hoping someone will believe your BS.

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The reason why so many of these threads appear is because of people like you. You refuse to read the evidence presented in past threads, so we have to rehash the same stuff over and over again. Then Josh and his Sockpuppet show appears and starts yelling about trolls and calling everyone names.

Ahh the wonderful sockpuppet defense.  For the record, BFL has exactly zero sockpuppet accounts.  Just like poor little Bryan Micon and his claims of a massive BFL Bot army downvoting his ridiculous little Reddit rants, it's just impossible for people like you, who have a tenuous grasp on reality at best, to believe that rational people actually evaluate the situation and the facts in a coherent manner and come to the logical conclusion.  Your little warped sense of reality doesn't really hold up to any sort of thorough or really even a cursory investigation.  It's why this particular subforum on Bitcointalk is the ass end of the internet - so many lies and deceit perpetrated by people with agendas, unbalanced sense of reality or just plain crazy, most rational people stay far, far away from it.  

There's a little handful of you trolls who troll every BFL thread.  I wouldn't even be posting here if there was moderation weeding out your useless little diatribes, but since there's none, here I am, arguing with idiots. Smiley  It's like a hobby at this point.  One I could certainly leave behind and be glad to be rid of it, let me tell you.  Maybe one day we'll get some real moderation here and Bitcointalk can become a place where rational adults can have discourse again, but not until people like PL, Syke, k9quaint, etc are all perma-banned.

857  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order? on: May 01, 2013, 01:01:33 AM
if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?

I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates.

How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't.

Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance.  It's called "Vote with your wallet."  Look it up.

...
BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.
Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago.

Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today.  (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/)  

So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today.  Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you.  I can't quite put my finger on why...


858  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order? on: April 30, 2013, 10:56:11 PM
So much fail in the above post, I don't even know where to start.

I have an idea Tehfiend, if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?
859  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order? on: April 30, 2013, 08:14:26 PM
So you post the image of the hashrate as if it supports your opinion. However, even taking the most conservative number on that chart, 486 TH/s, a BFL single would still earn between .4 and .5 BTC a day.  That's $70 a day, or $2100 per month.  A 1 month 100% ROI at 486 TH network hashrate.  If the network hashrate is anything LESS than 486 TH, your 100% ROI timeframe drops dramatically.

Yes... once again, only in the bitcoin world is a 1 month 100% ROI cause for panic and bitching, heh.

Unless the price of BTC in late July / early August (the date of the 486TH hash rate) is $14. Then it would take considerably longer than 1 month to earn your money back. And the hash rate does not stop growing at 484TH (as your analysis presumed). You are looking at more like 18 months to earn your money back.

Please cite your math for 18 months.  

Fine, lets double the hashrate to 972 TH, that's .25 BTC a day, or $35 USD, or $1050.  Oh no, 2.5 month 100% ROI!  Stop the train!  Holy crap!

All of this assumes you START with a difficulty of 972 TH. The fact that we would be starting with 1/100th of that or thereabouts means your 2.5 months is reduced drastically.



860  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order? on: April 30, 2013, 08:05:31 PM
I understand it just fine, you don't seem to understand basic math.  Show your work or you're just making crap up.  

There's plenty of projections that show a positive ROI even at 100x difficulty and beyond.  I have yet to see a single credible projection that doesn't show a positive ROI at some point within 2 - 3 years with all the worst case scenarios coming into play at the same time .

I trust Organofcorti's calculations far more than I trust your speculation.


Based on past history an April order will be likely delivered in 2014, when difficulty will be very high. Sorry, I'm basing this assumption on facts: continuous delays, huge backlog, etc. Organofcorti's calculations arrive only to July this year, and still you can see below how he forecasted a x10 increase in just three months. If that trends continues.... Well, good luck with having a ROI at 1,000x.

Another fact is that you are not guaranteeing any delivery date. That's a huge risk in mining business, because as you acknowledged if you don't get your mining unit early enough so you can recoup your costs in the very first weeks, you won't ROI at all. And BTW, if you trust organofcorti's calculations you should know he wrote literally:

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Notice that the BFL Single SC at $2500 / 50 Ghps (currently 19.2 btc / 50 Ghps, or 0.38 btc / Ghps) is quite profitable, right up to the end of May. It would need about twenty days mining to pay for itself, and once the 0.38btc / Ghps threshold is reached will return 200% of the purchase cost within the next seventy days. Based on this estimate, if I could be guaranteed delivery by the end of May I'd purchase a BFL Single SC.

Source: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com.es/2013/04/915-fair-price-for-asic-miner.html

But, the point is you cannot guarantee delivery by the end of May - true? Maybe to him, to try to get some nice publicity, but not for the rest of us.

I am a BFL customer too, so I'm not enjoying this situation.





So you post the image of the hashrate as if it supports your opinion. However, even taking the most conservative number on that chart, 486 TH/s, a BFL single would still earn between .4 and .5 BTC a day.  That's $70 a day, or $2100 per month.  A 1 month 100% ROI at 486 TH network hashrate.  If the network hashrate is anything LESS than 486 TH, your 100% ROI timeframe drops dramatically.

Yes... once again, only in the bitcoin world is a 1 month 100% ROI cause for panic and bitching, heh.



So you are guaranteeing here that an April order like the one we are discussing in this post will be delivered in July?

You represent a company, I'd appreciate some clear and honest statements instead of trolling.


BFL does not participate in Bitcontroll.org, sorry.  I don't represent anything but myself here.

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