Why do you want the value to be raised? If it was lower, more people might start using bitcoin. Is that not what you want?
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By the second law of thermodynamics Koomey's "law" will eventually end.
That's right. But it will not happen suddenly. It will come as a gradually increase in the doubling time for computing efficiency. This only means a sligt anti-inflationary bias for the coin. No problem. I would also point out that in the short history of Bitcoin the efficiency of miners have increased by many magnitudes more than Koomey's law.
That happens because of jumping to different technologies - CPU-->GPU-->ASIC. We can be pretty sure that after arrival of ASICS, Koomey's law will rule. I'd also like to emphasize more clearly a few advantages this supply mechanism will have: 1. Price cannot swing to much - too high and everybody will start mining, too low and people stop mining, meaning supply gets limited, driving price up. 2. People can start using the coin without any exchange. The simply can mine it themselves without very advanced hardware. The electricity company works as your exchange. Provide A gigahashes to network, and you get paid A coins in reward. 3. Mining will always be profitable, for someone. No need for transaction fees. 4. When someone buy this coin from you, they know you also have paid for it. No-one could print it easy because they knew about it early. This fairness of acquirement is a prerequisite for any crypto to achieve broad adoption.
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Bitcoin's and other altcoins limited supply is what stops them from becoming a true free currency for the people around the world. We are loosing the opportunity, in spite that the solution is very simple: One simply need to adjust how new coins are coming into being: block-reward = C * difficulty (meaning: money supply= hashing power) The constant C is halved every 1.5 years - because that means you will always have the same amount of new coins given the same amount of energy. (see Koomey's law) Even if the whole world started to use this coin, it would not give price explosions. Value would always be tied to energy in some more or less predictable way. Cruptocurrency technology has two core features; proof-of-work and money supply. Why have they not been connected? This mechanism connects them, and does not need any man-made ideas for the money supply. This reward mechanism is the natural one for crypto, and is the same as we live after every day: The more you work, the more money you get paid. This is not a new idea, and has been around for long time, in several posts, for example here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178140.0 and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64637.msg759250#msg759250
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UTEX: Coin with work proportional money supply Utex (utility for exchange) is a coin with a tie between coin value and price of energy. This is obtained by letting the block reward be proportional to the difficulty. This means that miners get paid according to the work (or hashes) they put in, independent of network hashrate: Block reward = c * DifficultyThe constant, c, is halved every 1.5 years. This is consistent with Koomey's law that predicts a doubling of computing power each 1.5 years, given the same amount of energy. The reward policy will ensure that the cost of producing 1 UTX requires the same amount of energy, over time. Beware that this does not mean halving of the money supply, as is the case for coins with fixed supply. Koomey's law is essential here, and has proven stable for several decades. Key features:- Mining cost per coin remains constant, in terms of energy
- Total money supply is unlimited, and non-predictable
- Energy cost put a limit on price - if too high everyone can profit from mining
- Supply will grow with increased adoption
Utex will not benefit early adopters on the cost of the later community. Hence, it will not behave as a commodity, or subject for speculation, and it does not encourage hoarding. The objective is to create a coin that can achieve common acceptance as a utility for exchange. The coin is inflationary, but the inflation rate will be self-regulating because if the value drops, the incentive to main will drop accordingly. I have given some more arguments about economics here: www.gigahash.blogspot.comDEVELOPERS/MINERS:Utex-a is a litecoin clone version with the following features: Block reward = 0.01 x Difficulty (--> 429 gigahash per coin) - but never less than 1 UTX. TCP/RPC = 31510/31511 Minimum monetary unit (satoshi) = 0.01 UTX Github: utex/utex-a addnode: 188.226.144.128 Time between blocks & retargeting similar to litecoin. Only the genesis block is created. Anyone can create the first block. The minimum difficulty limit is 1. The minimum block reward is 1, meaning coins are discounted for difficulty below 200. I seek developers that share interest in this project. I am not an experienced coder, and I did this work only to check that this concept is possible, and to attract attention and interest for a cryptocurrency with a different monetary policy.
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Hi I made a litecoin clone for experiments & learning. I have compiled and started the headless client (mycoind) at two different machines: 1. My home machine, with ip1 2. My workplace machine with ip2 I have a VPN connection, so I work on machine 2 using ssh. In each of the mycoin.conf files I have added the line connect=ip, where ip=ip for the other machine. I also do the same with rpcallowip=ip (not sure if it is needed though)
But the debug log files only goes like this: 2014-05-18 11:45:03 trying connection xx.xx.xx.xx lastseen=0.0hrs 2014-05-18 11:45:03 connect() failed after select(): Connection refused
If I start the client without specify connect, it get many connections (I use litecoin ports), it seems to be happily mining, not bothering that it is mining coins on its own different chain.
EDIT: SOLVED: Use the Bcast ip, get it from $ifconfig:
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Is there any advange using bitcoin-scrypt vs litecoin for this? (I tried to build new block chain using litecoin, but get into same problems, the tips above did not fix)
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First GPU miner in Open CL didn't come around until July 2010.
Seems so! I have plotted a closeup of the same graph as benjyz showed here: upload image
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As I understand, the difficulty is the number of hashes, divided by 2^32, required (in average) in order to get a SHA-256 below a target value T. And further, that the target value is actually what is adjusted in the algorithm. Is it then correct that D*(2^32)=(2^256)/T ? Or have I got it wrong here?
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I understand that the bitcoin algorithm adjust difficulty by measuring the time it took to find the last 2016 blocks. What clock is used?
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I did too. Does not really matter. Life goes on;)
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whats the sum?
3,189,354.44 thx for doing some mental arithmetic but holy cow, thats 27% of all coins. And how many persons holds those 250 adresses? I would guess very few.
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A pity that so much cleverness and creativity is wasted on carrying forward such a completely stupidmessage. Jesus Christ! Bitcoin vs financial crisis!
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Bitcoin is not a currency. It can best be compared to rare football game card collecting. It has no value except for the imaginary value assigned to it by a small flock of enthusiasts. (Of course there is an very interesting and new technology behind it, but that is a completely different story)
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So many people hee complaing about the problem of diluted values, no backing etc. This is not a problem unless you have a lot of cash. Then go change it into stcks or bitcoins or whatever. And use cash only for exchange of goods. Problem solved.
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you are probably right it is doomed to fail but not for the reason you mentioned.
imho here is why
1. reliance on internet. if some global cataclysm happens it might dissolve. for example what if governments start to tax any traffic that goes across the border? or something similar happens.
2. no solution for growth. there is no even talk about getting rid of having to store all the transaction on each node's medium. how can it grow when there is no space to grow into?
3. big players will never adopt bitcoin because they will never rely on a handful of individuals who control the source code. even though adepts claim bitcoin to be decentralized, most (all?) crysises were solved by centralized authority that de-facto controls the source code emission.
Interesting, though: 1. If internet reliance fail, I think bitcoin would only be a footnote in the list of problems. 2. You do not need to store the blockchain locally. There already existvservices that stores blockchain that is accessed by locallystored wallets. 3. Who are the fewindividual that contol thevsource? Bitcoin foundation? Not sure I get what you mean.
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The problem is that bitcoin has a centralized ownership. You can pick 10-20 persons out there that is holding abt 50% of all the bitcoins that exist. And even if you count the 1000 persons that holds 80%, the problem is the same.
You could create a new cryptocurrency and give 10 coins to every person on the planet and in a few years the distribution would look very similar. It is not the job of currency to evenly distribute itself and I would argue that it is not even desirable. But is it the job of currency to be pre-distributed unevenly? Should that not be the job of capitalism?
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You could be right, after all a year ago BTC were only worth $12, so you obviously are not selling out at the bottom. However, I have to think that BTC might be a good store of value even if it fails as a medium of exchange, and lots of things, gold, diamonds, slabbed rare coins, are good stores of value even if they are rubbish as mediums of exchange.
Good Luck!
Thanks. Yes, I agree with everything you say. However, I would like to see a crypto challenging the fiats, but I doubt btc ever will.
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Distribution of bitcoins:
This is also not a very valid argument, as the situation is the same with USD. 1% of Americans hold 40% of the wealth. http://www.upworthy.com/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact-2?g=3^While I don't necessarily sympathize with the message in the video, it does a good job presenting these facts. It sounds to me like Bitcoin motivated you to learn more about bitcoin (which is good), but you should take the time to learn more about money in general. So far, all of your qualms apply equally to the money you exchanged your bitcoins for, if not more. The people giving you a hard time in this thread are trying to say that, but the words come out all funny when you're anonymous on the internet. Yeah, Ive seen that video earlier. I also seen Bill Stills video on the money masters and Money as Debt. I am not completly blank when it comes to monetary systems. However, itvseems to me that many people on this forum are, knowledge limited to belive that limited supply is thevsalvation. It is not. I am trying to explain people that it is bitcoins kill switch. Those who understand that is also the same people who have personal interest in extending bitcoins life, before its unavoidable demise.
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