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how does solving the Byzantine's General Problem apply to Bitcoin?
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why are you always such a dick about things? do you always see negatives in ppl? i've only heard the core devs complain about you, not him.
and how would you know anything about being difficult to work with in re: to Alan? have you worked with him? Alan has been a star in the community from a user's perspective as every other comment here and on Reddit will attest to. and Armory stands apart from bitsofproof and sx by far.
i'm willing to bet that anyone who's anything in Bitcoin and needs a usable daily wallet for their biz uses Armory. no question in my mind it's that useful.
it's quite possible that he's a lone wolf as you describe but many great ppl have ventured out on their own in many industries over time and accomplished great things. sometimes other ppl hold them back.
You know, computer science is not a popularity contest. I think gmaxwell recently tried to explain this to you and failed, but in a slightly different context. please be more specific. the only thing gmaxwell failed to explain to me, the rest of the community, and Sirius was why he assumed moral authority to exclude Ver and Matonis from the bitcoin.org press center. the verdict is in on that issue; it was the wrong thing to do. I wish the fuckedcompany.com site didn't crash and lose its discussion forum database. I would then just give you a links to the history of the California/Silicon Valley and the dotcom bubble. Those who don't know the history are condemned to repeat it. But because f-----company.com is now lost it is quite hard to show that history to the uninitiated. It kinda doesn't matter wheter I'm a dick or a nice guy. I'm a computer scientist and that that is the only thing that should matter. Everything else is just a dressing, "social capital", "marketing", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconnaissance_by_fire etc. But for you only things that matter are in the "everything else" category, you've already made a decision to not learn anything in the "computer science" category. One thing that you most definitely share with etotheipi is that you both are very emotional people, prone to thinking in the "us versus them" categories. But the subject here is cold and unemotional computer science, which really doesn't take sides. i'm just calling it like i see based on your run ins with others. it's ok, i do the same thing. i would actually like to see links to your concerns about Armory. i vaguely recall some but not the specifics.
I will repeat myself: no matter what you and etotheipi think about me right now, I wish him well. I do see him repeating simple mistakes that already have been made, but the documentation of those mistakes is gone with f-----company.com . I have not deleted or significantly edited any posts that I had made in etotheipi's threads. Anyone is free to search my posts for the mention of etotheipi and etotheipi's post for mentions of 2112 and make his own mind.
mind you, i don't fully trust Armory yet either which is why i haven't kept the majority of funds in this wallet as of yet. but as far as i know, you're talking about security here and there has never been a stolen coin as a result of Armory. no one has lost coins either due to bad programming. it is a bit concerning that we had a 3 mo down time in Armory as a result of moving Alan's DB from RAM to HDD. he fully admits to underestimating the growth of Bitcoin and it's DB. but then so have you.
In the past, when I had to explain the above quoted concept to the non-scientists I had some success with using the following art analogy: imagine yourself having a choice to invest in Rembrand or Salvador Dali while they were still alive. Rembrand is well known for supervising painting by his pupils/apprentices and signing them only when they met his quality standards. On the other hand Salvador Dali is well known for signing the blank canvas and leaving painting to the random ghost-painters hired by the art merchants. It is completely unproductive do try to discuss which of the two painters was a better artist. What really matters to the investor is which one was better in the teamwork enterprise.
If you don't like painters analogy, try the film directors analogy with, say James Cameron and Michael Cimino.
But please remember that Bitcoin is not "art", although it may be used near the expressions like "state-of-the-art". Bitcoin (and its security) is cold and unemotional computer science.
one thing i'd like to point out to you is how wrong you've been on Bitcoin in general since you started here. you've been a bear criticizing the protocol since i first interacted with you back in 2011. you spend an awful amount of time here given your bearishness. why is that? i coined the phrase "the geeks fail to understand that which they hath created" a while back to describe folks like you. does the fact that you may now be describing Bitcoin as "state of the art" mean you've had a change of heart? not trying to be mean or anything, just pointing out the facts. |
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Do bitcoiners frequenting the speculation forum have a life?  are you still day trading? |
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why are you always such a dick about things? do you always see negatives in ppl? i've only heard the core devs complain about you, not him.
and how would you know anything about being difficult to work with in re: to Alan? have you worked with him? Alan has been a star in the community from a user's perspective as every other comment here and on Reddit will attest to. and Armory stands apart from bitsofproof and sx by far.
i'm willing to bet that anyone who's anything in Bitcoin and needs a usable daily wallet for their biz uses Armory. no question in my mind it's that useful.
it's quite possible that he's a lone wolf as you describe but many great ppl have ventured out on their own in many industries over time and accomplished great things. sometimes other ppl hold them back.
You know, computer science is not a popularity contest. I think gmaxwell recently tried to explain this to you and failed, but in a slightly different context. I wish the fuckedcompany.com site didn't crash and lose its discussion forum database. I would then just give you a links to the history of the California/Silicon Valley and the dotcom bubble. Those who don't know the history are condemned to repeat it. But because f-----company.com is now lost it is quite hard to show that history to the uninitiated. It kinda doesn't matter wheter I'm a dick or a nice guy. I'm a computer scientist and that that is the only thing that should matter. Everything else is just a dressing, "social capital", "marketing", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconnaissance_by_fire etc. But for you only things that matter are in the "everything else" category, you've already made a decision to not learn anything in the "computer science" category. One thing that you most definitely share with etotheipi is that you both are very emotional people, prone to thinking in the "us versus them" categories. But the subject here is cold and unemotional computer science, which really doesn't take sides. I will repeat myself: no matter what you and etotheipi think about me right now, I wish him well. I do see him repeating simple mistakes that already have been made, but the documentation of those mistakes is gone with f-----company.com . I have not deleted or significantly edited any posts that I had made in etotheipi's threads. Anyone is free to search my posts for the mention of etotheipi and etotheipi's post for mentions of 2112 and make his own mind. In the past, when I had to explain the above quoted concept to the non-scientists I had some success with using the following art analogy: imagine yourself having a choice to invest in Rembrand or Salvador Dali while they were still alive. Rembrand is well known for supervising painting by his pupils/apprentices and signing them only when they met his quality standards. On the other hand Salvador Dali is well known for signing the blank canvas and leaving painting to the random ghost-painters hired by the art merchants. It is completely unproductive do try to discuss which of the two painters was a better artist. What really matters to the investor is which one was better in the teamwork enterprise. If you don't like painters analogy, try the film directors analogy with, say James Cameron and Michael Cimino. But please remember that Bitcoin is not "art", although it may be used near the expressions like "state-of-the-art". Bitcoin (and its security) is cold and unemotional computer science. well, i have to thank you for one thing. your continued threats to steal my wallet have encouraged me to study up on Bitcoin security. Armory has been a valuable tool to secure those same wallets. last i checked my balances are still intact. |
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interesting perspective.
otoh, he will probably be the lead dev within the hierarchy of Armory. afterall, he wrote the thing. and it is the best wallet out there while contributing to the community in a big way.
Exactly that's where the problem starts: "being the lead developer". etotheipi was/is rather short-fused personality. The typical (at least 50/50) trajectory of such a startup is: 1) several iterations of of trying to work with peers and ending up with a quarrels and no new code produced 2) hiring servants/completely unskilled programmers that are very supplicative but produce very low quality software But it is also possible that etotheipi will turn around and learn how to work with teams. where would we be without it?
Yeah, that is the question. The other competing full-node/wallet implementations are also written by lone wolfs: A) bitsofproof by grau B) sx by genjix why are you always such a dick about things? do you always see negatives in ppl? i've only heard the core devs complain about you, not him. and how would you know anything about being difficult to work with in re: to Alan? have you worked with him? Alan has been a star in the community from a user's perspective as every other comment here and on Reddit will attest to. and Armory stands apart from bitsofproof and sx by far. i'm willing to bet that anyone who's anything in Bitcoin and needs a usable daily wallet for their biz uses Armory. no question in my mind it's that useful. it's quite possible that he's a lone wolf as you describe but many great ppl have ventured out on their own in many industries over time and accomplished great things. sometimes other ppl hold them back. |
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.
etotheipi is a fairly classic example of a "lone wolf" coder/programmer/software engineer. Adding money and co-worker/peer programmers into this situation quite often (at least 50/50) causes "pouring oil into the fire" situation. On the other hand he's young (recent graduate) and may not be irreversibly set into that modus operandi. Time will show... interesting perspective. otoh, he will probably be the lead dev within the hierarchy of Armory. afterall, he wrote the thing. and it is the best wallet out there while contributing to the community in a big way. where would we be without it? |
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.
I'm not convinced Alan wants to be a core dev. We're going to be talking about whats coming up for Armory in the next week or two, I'm very excited for a faster Armory wallet. This is great news. Maybe now Armory can get away from requiring Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind to run and stand on its own. It hasn't required that for at least 3 or 4 months, although I've found it to be more stable running that way anyhow. Some very cool things coming for armory, can't wait to dig into it. no. it still requires Bitcoin-qt with it's associated DB. |
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what is supernode supposed to mean?
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.
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Finally.
now let's get an Android version going!
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Armory will import a wallet as well as sweep or import individual keys.
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someone catch me up on what the new beta version does.
is it still dependent on and open Bitcoin-qt? or is it standalone with it's own DB. any significant differences otherwise with 0.88.1 on mac osx?
It is still dependent on bitcoin-qt, but it maintains a second blockchain database on your HDD instead of keeping it in RAM. So it uses much less memory. But it doesn't communicate with other bitcoin nodes, so it can't download blocks itself. so the "2nd DB" is somehow different than the Bitcoin-qt DB? sounds redundant. does it double the HDD requirements? i'm also not seeing any download links on the website for the new version. am currently runnng 0.88.1 on mac os. looks like my 0.88.1 is already the latest version? |
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someone catch me up on what the new beta version does.
is it still dependent on and open Bitcoin-qt? or is it standalone with it's own DB. any significant differences otherwise with 0.88.1 on mac osx?
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Not all regions see competitive business advantage as a sufficient incentive to permit transaction freedom. Some may not be convinced by the merits of Bitcoin even with a complete understanding of it and the technology. If some near-totalitarian state were to decree Bitcoin outlawed, and assign capital punishment to users transacting in its jurisdiction unless using a government sanctioned escrow for the private keys of all its citizens, (which law, were it to exist, might even be enforceable to some degree).
Faced with such, how would you as a Bitcoin Foundation board member address this?
Citizens there may not be able to send TBF member fees nor get any representation in TBF without foreign help, would you advocate such help through the Foundation and how?
I'm insufficiently vain to imagine that any of the Board hopefuls will read this or answer it, but had to put it out there for the rest of us to contemplate because I am old enough to remember when "munitions grade" PGP was illegal to export from the USA.
Ben Davenport here (I'm a candidate). I think the capital punishment scenario is probably a little far out there, so I won't address it, but the outlawing of making Bitcoin transactions in a jurisdiction is certainly a realistic possibility. The appropriate response from TBF depends a lot on the specifics here (I doubt we'd be able to do much if we're talking about North Korea, for instance). At minimum, I would certainly do anything reasonable to prevent loss of representation of BF members from that jurisdiction, such as suspending membership dues, accepting alternate payment forms, etc. Following that, I think there are a number of possible approaches, depending on the jurisdiction and the particular law. My bias would be towards finding or constructing a test case with ideal attributes that allows us the best chance of overturning such a law, likely in conjunction with a grass roots campaign to sway public opinion. It's interesting that you bring up the PGP crypto wars, because I think some similar tactics could apply. Ultimately, PGP was exported by printing it in book form, protected by freedom of speech/press, and OCR'd back into machine-readable form in Europe. And similarly, there were T-shirts made which implemented RSA in a few lines of Perl, with the statement "This shirt is a munition." Because making a bitcoin transaction simply consists of making a public utterance, i.e. speech, I think similar tactics could be used. For instance: build a tool which translates a bitcoin transaction into English or other natural language, and posts it to a public internet forum, where another tool scans and translates back to binary form and relays to the bitcoin network. Ben, thanx for taking a shot at a difficult question. it say alot and there are good ideas in there. good job the other nite too despite the voice handicap. of the 3 ppl i'd consider for the position (Trace, Joerg, yourself) you would be my dark horse. while the other 2 are more vocal and "flamboyant", you are "just" a good solid candidate from the good 'ol US of A. coding background with a Facebook stamp; how much more boring does it get?  the big plus i see for you though, seriously, is a thoughtful maturity and patience that could bring alot to the table. best of luck. |
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They want you to avoid using Tor. They also use Tor themselves.
How could you possibly know that? In related news Matthew Green one of the Zerocoin guys has got into trouble with his dept. dean at JHU criticising the NSA ... what a bunch of PC BS! (Not to mention smacks of censorship, 1st amendment suppression, etc) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/10/johns-hopkins-dean-apologises-for-blogMatthew Green, an assistant research professor in JHU's department of computer science, was asked to remove a blog post from the university's servers on Monday. The entry linked to classified government documents published by the Guardian, the New York Times and ProPublica and summarised what Green called "bombshell revelations" of how the NSA is able to unlock encryption used to protect emails and other data.
JHU found itself criticised for abusing academic freedom after Andrew Douglas, who has served as interim dean of the university's engineering school since July, asked Green to remove the post from the university's servers. you are aware that JHU has since apologized for the reprimand and allowed his original post to remain public? |
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1. Because cypherdoc rubs it into my face?
you must be long gold and silver. |
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The effort to make the transcript is appreciated - but is there any reason to be putting *accents* into it?
No pay to keep me engaged. Turning speech into more of a caricature provides the engagement, instead. I think it helps in accurately determining inflection, too. More the engagement, though. You must've missed the first draft I put up before going over it again. Liz: ... so we want people to be encouraged to jump in and share ideas in the BTC marketplace, whether it's for soft porn development, or communication, or how we get off on the message. If it were live captions, that's what would've shown up for people with CC on.  Will finish transcribing & edits tonight, give LTB a no-fun version while fun version will stay here. Won't start in on it for ~4hours, until daughter's in bed. Carlos Danger? Bwahahaha! |
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