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September 13, 2013, 10:33:36 PM
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Satoshi Forest glory


lol.


Here's a thing to know about Pensacola Florida



It's swamp land.
Is that picture from Black Water or the UWF Nature trail?

Yeah, the swamp land is really more of a South Florida thing. We are more pine forest up here.

And Satoshi Forest was picked specifically because it has two distinct high ground portions that will fair well in out frequent storms.

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September 16, 2013, 10:18:01 AM
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I was never as delighted to get a thread back on topic:

Most Secure Bitcoin Wallet Armory Raises $600k Led by Trace Mayer
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/most-secure-bitcoin-wallet-armory-raises-600k-led-by-trace-mayer-2013-09-16

Awesome, awesome, this is fabulous news, Alan!

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September 16, 2013, 04:18:50 PM
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I was never as delighted to get a thread back on topic:

Most Secure Bitcoin Wallet Armory Raises $600k Led by Trace Mayer
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/most-secure-bitcoin-wallet-armory-raises-600k-led-by-trace-mayer-2013-09-16

Awesome, awesome, this is fabulous news, Alan!

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September 16, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
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Finally.

now let's get an Android version going!
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September 16, 2013, 05:06:43 PM
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This is awesome news. So happy for them.

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September 16, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.
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September 16, 2013, 05:20:05 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

Egos probably. Too many cooks in the kitchen.

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September 16, 2013, 05:58:28 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

I'm not convinced Alan wants to be a core dev.  We're going to be talking about whats coming up for Armory in the next week or two, I'm very excited for a faster Armory wallet.

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September 16, 2013, 06:05:12 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

I'm not convinced Alan wants to be a core dev.  We're going to be talking about whats coming up for Armory in the next week or two, I'm very excited for a faster Armory wallet.

This is great news. Maybe now Armory can get away from requiring Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind to run and stand on its own.

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September 16, 2013, 06:20:58 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

I'm not convinced Alan wants to be a core dev.  We're going to be talking about whats coming up for Armory in the next week or two, I'm very excited for a faster Armory wallet.

This is great news. Maybe now Armory can get away from requiring Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind to run and stand on its own.

It hasn't required that for at least 3 or 4 months, although I've found it to be more stable running that way anyhow.   Some very cool things coming for armory, can't wait to dig into it.

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September 16, 2013, 06:22:28 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

I'm not convinced Alan wants to be a core dev.  We're going to be talking about whats coming up for Armory in the next week or two, I'm very excited for a faster Armory wallet.

This is great news. Maybe now Armory can get away from requiring Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind to run and stand on its own.

It hasn't required that for at least 3 or 4 months, although I've found it to be more stable running that way anyhow.   Some very cool things coming for armory, can't wait to dig into it.

no.

it still requires Bitcoin-qt with it's associated DB.
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September 16, 2013, 06:23:14 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

I'm not convinced Alan wants to be a core dev.  We're going to be talking about whats coming up for Armory in the next week or two, I'm very excited for a faster Armory wallet.

This is great news. Maybe now Armory can get away from requiring Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind to run and stand on its own.

It hasn't required that for at least 3 or 4 months, although I've found it to be more stable running that way anyhow.   Some very cool things coming for armory, can't wait to dig into it.

Really! It can work now in online mode without Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind running in the background! I've got to check this out and update again. Thanks for letting me know.

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September 16, 2013, 06:31:00 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.
etotheipi is a fairly classic example of a "lone wolf" coder/programmer/software engineer. Adding money and co-worker/peer programmers into this situation quite often (at least 50/50) causes "pouring oil into the fire" situation.

On the other hand he's young (recent graduate) and may not be irreversibly set into that modus operandi.

Time will show...

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September 16, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

I'm not convinced Alan wants to be a core dev.  We're going to be talking about whats coming up for Armory in the next week or two, I'm very excited for a faster Armory wallet.

This is great news. Maybe now Armory can get away from requiring Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind to run and stand on its own.

It hasn't required that for at least 3 or 4 months, although I've found it to be more stable running that way anyhow.   Some very cool things coming for armory, can't wait to dig into it.

no.

it still requires Bitcoin-qt with it's associated DB.

My point was Armory can run it without having to have the second wallet open, it does still rely on running it in the background in the current version.

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September 16, 2013, 06:42:39 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

I'm not convinced Alan wants to be a core dev.  We're going to be talking about whats coming up for Armory in the next week or two, I'm very excited for a faster Armory wallet.

This is great news. Maybe now Armory can get away from requiring Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind to run and stand on its own.

It hasn't required that for at least 3 or 4 months, although I've found it to be more stable running that way anyhow.   Some very cool things coming for armory, can't wait to dig into it.

no.

it still requires Bitcoin-qt with it's associated DB.

My point was Armory can run it without having to have the second wallet open, it does still rely on running it in the background in the current version.

I checked it out and was going to tell you but I see cypherdoc beat me to it.

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September 16, 2013, 06:58:34 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.
etotheipi is a fairly classic example of a "lone wolf" coder/programmer/software engineer. Adding money and co-worker/peer programmers into this situation quite often (at least 50/50) causes "pouring oil into the fire" situation.

On the other hand he's young (recent graduate) and may not be irreversibly set into that modus operandi.

Time will show...

interesting perspective.  

otoh, he will probably be the lead dev within the hierarchy of Armory.  afterall, he wrote the thing.  and it is the best wallet out there while contributing to the community in a big way.  

where would we be without it?
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September 16, 2013, 07:23:06 PM
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interesting perspective.  

otoh, he will probably be the lead dev within the hierarchy of Armory.  afterall, he wrote the thing.  and it is the best wallet out there while contributing to the community in a big way.  
Exactly that's where the problem starts: "being the lead developer". etotheipi was/is rather short-fused personality. The typical (at least 50/50) trajectory of such a startup is:

1) several iterations of of trying to work with peers and ending up with a quarrels and no new code produced
2) hiring servants/completely unskilled programmers that are very supplicative but produce very low quality software

But it is also possible that etotheipi will turn around and learn how to work with teams. 

where would we be without it?
Yeah, that is the question. The other competing full-node/wallet implementations are also written by lone wolfs:

A) bitsofproof by grau
B) sx by genjix

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September 16, 2013, 08:08:21 PM
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interesting perspective.  

otoh, he will probably be the lead dev within the hierarchy of Armory.  afterall, he wrote the thing.  and it is the best wallet out there while contributing to the community in a big way.  
Exactly that's where the problem starts: "being the lead developer". etotheipi was/is rather short-fused personality. The typical (at least 50/50) trajectory of such a startup is:

1) several iterations of of trying to work with peers and ending up with a quarrels and no new code produced
2) hiring servants/completely unskilled programmers that are very supplicative but produce very low quality software

But it is also possible that etotheipi will turn around and learn how to work with teams. 

where would we be without it?
Yeah, that is the question. The other competing full-node/wallet implementations are also written by lone wolfs:

A) bitsofproof by grau
B) sx by genjix


why are you always such a dick about things?  do you always see negatives in ppl?  i've only heard the core devs complain about you, not him.

and how would you know anything about being difficult to work with in re: to Alan?  have you worked with him?  Alan has been a star in the community from a user's perspective as every other comment here and on Reddit will attest to.  and Armory stands apart from bitsofproof and sx by far.

i'm willing to bet that anyone who's anything in Bitcoin and needs a usable daily wallet for their biz uses Armory.  no question in my mind it's that useful.

it's quite possible that he's a lone wolf as you describe but many great ppl have ventured out on their own in many industries over time and accomplished great things.  sometimes other ppl hold them back.
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September 16, 2013, 08:09:35 PM
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TBH, i've never understood why Alan has never been asked to be a core dev.

He is a core dev.
The project is called Armory :-P

Nah, I very much prefer it that way, Alan sticking to Armory!
We don't need more resources on bitcoin-qt, we need more independent clients!

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September 16, 2013, 08:26:01 PM
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Alan has been a star in the community from a user's perspective as every other comment here and on Reddit will attest to.

Unfortunately, many times our greatest assets become our largest liabilities.

Just think of the average member of the 2009-2011 Bitcoin community: an IQ at least two standard deviations above the mean, highly technically and mathematically competent, economically and financially savvy, entrepreneurial, willing to take risks or experiment while accepting the consequences, incredible work ethic and very independent minded.

So, why should they take any advice or listen to anyone else? Most other people are dumber, less skilled and view the world in a much less effective way. And the financial scoreboard says so with the rise in Bitcoin's price.

If you think herding cats is hard then herding honey badgers, particularly if they have been financially successful, is infinitely worse.

But I am sure that as long as members of the community, and this applies just as much to Alan as anyone else, find competent mentors who are not stupid and then are willing to work hard and be teachable they will be extremely successful. We all have a lot to learn; the problem is finding someone to learn it from who is willing to invest the time to do it.

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