Bitcoin and Eth I can understand, Bitcoin 100% anyone who's into crypto has to have BTC, and ETH, nyeh okay I could go along with it only because it's 20% of ATH and I DO believe it can go back to it.

But why would Bitcoin hodlers like you want to add something I've never even heard of like those two? What's your reason?

They're shilling because they either got paid for it, or they invested in it and want it to rise up, or they're part of the developer teams themselves planning to dump it on all the unsuspecting fools. In fact, shilling is good because it tells me, it's a shitcoin. The good coins don't get shilled because shills know those will take too long to grow.

But that was only the estimated odds actually, as I just found out, it's not the odds that you see at the time of betting but at the time of closing. But yes, it does seem that you only should bet close to closing to see the real odds. The weight multiplier doesn't really seem to give you much of an advantage (I could be wrong).

I think we all feel bad for your loss but there must be a reason it happened yesterday and not at all in the past 8 years you've used it. Someone has access. Someone got into your device somehow and found your private keys. Assume the worst, I don't think this is a client especially if you've not access in a time.

Where are the other reports of people getting hacked by the way?

I saw what these so called influencers were charging. The very good ones actually charge reasonable amounts like 1.5k for an interview which lasts 30 minutes and at least that's useful for the audience. But to ask for 5k per shoutout? I know McAfee does 100k per Tweet but ok at least he can actually move markets but stupid influencers with zero knowledge about blockchain? If a project hires them I immediately know the project is shit.

I agree that video call is just one step too far away for me. I probably would still do it if I really liked the service a lot, but I'm just extremely uncomfortable not knowing how they'll store the video or if they'll ever delete it. They can say they do but there's no way I'll ever know, will I?

Selfie, and all that, I get it. But because everyone can cheat now, then it's just impossible to be enough for platforms.

And scammers aren't dumb... that's the misconception.

What do you mean by "still"? When was that status ever being at risk? You know what happened to the last altcoin that tried to overturn Bitcoin's dominance? Ethereum, and they were all talking about the so-called flippening. You know what happened after that of course. And this was even just a question of dominance, not even talking about actual use.

The funny thing with connections is that there are always there to be made, just like this concept of 7 degrees of separation or 6 degrees or whatever. Anyone can make a connection if they are willing to spend enough time to find the links and build some kind of familiarity. That's always how it works with patterns too, people see what they want to see.

Bitcoin people like you are so silly. You've completely lost the point about Bitcoin, if you even ever had the point. Show me your latest transaction here or any tx for that matter. And then see how many are being made every second. Did we need any ads for that? And what would those ads be for anyway if not for companies promoting themselves and their centralized products?

Not to be a party pooper but no, most of us aren't here because of the tech. I can even guarantee you, most people here haven't even really used the tech (blockchain), much less understand it. I know a whole group of crypto traders who've never actually used a proper wallet, everything is on an exchange, they never stored a single crypto on their own private key. And they all call themselves experts.

Thanks for the clarification, this already greatly increases the chance to win. Most other places also require the bet to win, so it's good to keep that out of the worry. Although I guess most people will be betting with the maximum win chance anyway and on auto close to those numbers. Anyway, looks like we only have 15 million ++ bets left to hit that first target. I give it a few days;)

Thanks for that response. I think for me, when over 80% bet on a one team then for sure you know the value is nothing worth putting big money on. And if it's small money, it's only a tiny return for the small odds, so in the end it's pointless.

Whoever won those two longshot bets must feel very happy they did. They probably won a lot more than if they bet somewhere else, huh!

Yes i remember that sentience clearly on /. back then, and for that reason i didn't pay it any attention when i had some money i could have invested in it... Now i will lament for the rest of my life not doing so. No matter how much bitcoin climbs, its bound to climb less and less with time.

20k is just 10k twice. Same gain as going from 1 to 2, or 100 to 200...
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It's okay. Many of us were the same and that's good actually. If we were to start paying attention to everything that people thought that was cool, we'd be losing money left and right. Bitcoin was something totally different for sure, and it took us a while to realize that but better late than never. No need to lament, just appreciate that you're still in it before 99% of the developed world. And good you realize also we need to double to get 20k.

I have a very bad habit of using opening up random text files and storing things there, well after all they are called notepad on windows and that's exactly how it works for me, just to put down notes. Not important numbers but things I feel I might want to refer to later. So I delete them every now and then my computer is cluttered with notepad files:)

And thanks TheQuin, I finally understand the system now. I knew this is very different from fixed odds sportsbet, but this is very, very different! Imagine if only 1 guy bet on the team B and 100 guys bet on team A! What's the commission on these? (again sorry if already explained)

There's nothing to get. Banned, or non regulated, it doesn't stop you or any user from using bitcoin, and that's the pure beauty of the whole thing. It's not about transacting locally, it's about selling it or buying it with money that can be traced to a local account. I can send and receive btc with anyone, banned or not, but if I start trading at an exchange or even in the case of US do p2p on a centralized platform like LBC, then I allow myself to get identified, and there's where the problem starts.

Bitmex lets you trade margin without KYC, are you very sure of this? I thought Bitmex was one of the most KYC'd crypto exchanges? I keep reading about people being asked to verify (and in their terms of service they also say they have the rights to ask for this at antime).

Binance on the other hand lets you trade as a non verified account with no restrictions except a daily withdrawal limit of 2 BTC. That's $22k daily!

Public opinion says $50,000? Don't you think that the public opinion really doesn't matter when it comes to Bitcoin price? Remember, when Bitcoin first came out, the public all thought it was a scam. And now the public all think they can profit of it. The only time the public matters for bitcoin is when they all start using it. Holding isn't going to help it very much at all.

A coin doesn't become a shitcoin AFTER the project and AFTER the raise. A shitcoin is born as a shitcoin. Some shitcoins do become good coin. For example, don't be mad, Ethereum guys, but Ether was a shitcoin as soon as they split from Ethereum Classic;) But you can't turn a rpoject into a shitcoin, if it ever is called one, it's because it always was one. And you as an investor should know that 100%.

Now that's a milestone not many people can talk about! Probably going to be a lot of people rolling on small bets to get closer to the mark and then try and shoot for the prize with a bet ID.

Just 1 small point to clarify, must the bet also be a winning bet or do losing bets count? $55 for consolation isn't a bad deal at all!

There's no such thing as free live shows I guess, and as the OP points out this is not about some video you can download for free, it's about a unique show that you won't find elsewhere, I guess that's the most popular thing these days. Even episodes appearing on sci fi channels all about these cam girls.

People pay for phone chats too so I guess no surprise for shows.