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8541  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: November 11, 2016, 05:46:00 AM
In my opinion, the best investment in the cryptocurrency space is Bitcoin itself. There are some altcoins that can be a good investment, but I think it is not worth putting a large percentage of money on it.
That depend on our definition of best investment, if we mean the safest investment in the crypto world then I will agree, If we mean the one that gives the most profit then you will need a coin with lots of ups and downs in order to profit from it.

If it is a coin with a lot of ups and downs, then you cannot invest in it. But it will be good to make money from it thru trading. Bitcoin will still be the best online investment because it have shown great potential and the price is annually increasing.

I agree after a huge fall last 2014, even though Bitcoin have not recovered yet from that $1200 price way back 2013, it show a great potential.  After it goes down to sub $200, bitcoin is now gaining its ground and almost 63% of the price value had been recovered from that $1200.  Just a couple more months and I think those people who bought at $1200 can recover their investment in bitcoin.
This time we are getting stronger, after a hard fall would mean the resurrection, bitcoin is now the strongest coin in the crypto world as people are still supporting it. Now,it's the best investment so far as it can give us a great rewards like what happen this year where our money grows a 100%.
8542  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: November 11, 2016, 05:41:26 AM
Usually who start to change the financial system are banks, and they are providing a lot services for phones, and looks like they are mooving into the digital era, soo in the future just some people will go to banks, i dont know how long it will take, but there will come the day that we have all tools at our phone, in fact we do have few already.
I do not think that banks will remove the bills and turn them into digital currency. I'm sure the technology would have evolved but that does not mean they will remove paper money
It's not possible, more than half of the population of the world still rely on paper money. Bitcoin is only for online transaction and not even regulated by the government, for sure the government would always want their interest to be followed and with paper money all people can be benefited.
8543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in Gambling Sites on: November 10, 2016, 02:34:41 PM
Hi ! I would like to know what are the risks involved in investing in gambling sites like moneypot or other cryto casinos. Do people profit in the long run ? And what is an estimated amount of profit generated by it ?

Risks in gambling are not really different from any other investment risks. And that is they can always run away with your money and the other investors. Second is a gambling site can always be hacked .

Yeah Most people do find it profitable since there are higher chance that the house will win unless the gambling sites players are very few.

Your profits depends on how much money you are willing to invest,  the total earnings of the gambling site and the house typically takes 20-40% of their eanings and the rest will be distributed among its investors.  I think the number or investors can affect your profits also.
There's a risk in every investment but if you were to ask me, I would really choose investing in a gambling sites. The probability of being hack is very low because a good gambling sites knows the risk already and they been strengthen their security as in this business trust is very important to continue to operate.
8544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling worth to try for newbie? on: November 10, 2016, 02:30:12 PM
if i where you i would take time to research all about gambling before trying . well they're saying that's the first timer always have the best luck tho it's really worth it to try but dont get carried away. if you get carried away you'll lose all your money there. much better to ask some pro in gambling for you to have some idea about it.

First timer always have the best luck? hahah I think it just a beautiful word from the man who said that he is a wise man.
The words was made to make people try to gambling.
That's what you call beginners luck, we actually win in the first try but that is the main reason why we are hook in gambling. If I can turn back the time, I wish I do not have the beginners luck so I can just gamble moderately now.
8545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going all in on a Hillary win bet on: November 10, 2016, 02:28:16 PM
Trump won, I also won, I bet the odds more than 4 before, I like him because he is a billionaire, he is my idol and goal

congrats dude.

i wanted to bet on Trump too but i couldn't find anywhere that i could make a bet on the election at first and then when i found it i somehow got cold feet and decided against making bets on this because i though i am going to lose Sad

Too bad  for you  that you didnt  bet  on trump on that  particular  election day, you  might won  on that  bet though  but still  its  okay  because   you didnt loss and  you didnt earn something. If  you  want to bet,  do it without  hesitations  because  this is gambling and   the  lossing  of  your  money  is  already  a part of it thats  why  you need  to risk  to  win something back.
This is gambling, I wish we see the future...

A lot of gamblers loses because they bet on clinton which they think an obvious winner but they were surprise, trump has a good odds but we cannot go back to the past anymore.
8546  Economy / Economics / Re: What if US Dollar Crashes? on: November 10, 2016, 02:20:10 PM
Very interesting question this is. But what is the probability of US dollar deprecating and how because its already a super power and most used currency in the world. If the values decreases people will buy more of USD as it will come back and thus it demand will increase and price will rise back again.
That is it. We do not hope it get crashed because when it crashes it will affect every economy not just American economy, all the countries as every country is having economic relationships. But with the new government sworn in, we can expect new beginning for us dollars which might impact bitcoin ecosystem also hopefully in positive way.
I do not hope either, america is a big country and I believe under the new president he will make the economy of the USA more stronger. He cares for his people will give them jobs as promise, too bad for the immigrants they need to leave the country.
8547  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much amount of bet you prefer? on: November 10, 2016, 02:15:28 PM
In sports betting my initial bet amount is 0.0025BTC almost in every bet but when I think there is more than 60% win than I increase this amount upto 0.01BTC. In dice game betting with different amount some times it's high and most of the time with low amount.

That is not that high amount of each bet, and it is quite safe because even though you lose that amount will not have much impact on your savings. But don't bet every day instead just do this for fun and entertainment purpose only sometimes.
that's a good control with your risk mate not to big for your gambling activity because its really hard for most of us to win inside gambling so what ever kind of gambling it is just to use a portion of your spare money that you can afford to lose.
I lose bigger amount today in sports betting but I have accepted it, there's a day really that you are so unlucky and you cannot win even one single game. Chasing cannot be avoided when you are down big and base on my experience, when I chase I lose more.
8548  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: November 10, 2016, 02:12:23 PM
Ive found the best way to manage my money is to put money into an account that if I want to save it, I would not have any sort of direct access to. It has helped me save quite a bit of money in my life so far.
However for Bitcoin, I havent really found a lot of uses besides trading so whatever I make I keep Tongue
For sure, I have to add that it's necessary to recognize one's limitations and know what is needed for our daily lives, having this knowledge we can avoid spending on unnecessary items, which make us waste money in certain situations.
Better write your budget plan in paper so you have something to see and review it every time. You have to fully follow your budget and do not be tempted by the wonderful things you see, sacrificing is really necessary and when you have discipline you can do it.
8549  Economy / Services / Re: Komodo Signature and Avatar Campaign | Member - Legendary on: November 10, 2016, 02:08:33 PM
How about you're collecting our address before 20 Nov (15 November probably) and you have longer time to prepare anything .
And for those spammers , hopefully I'm not often active in here because being busy in real life and that's better than spamming .
I guess that's a good idea to fast track the release of the bounty, I believe participants are expecting to receive their bounty faster. It's a long wait and it's almost over and as a member promoting the campaign, it should be your big day.
8550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: November 10, 2016, 02:02:41 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble but anyone who's doing autobetting will never have profits in the long run. You'll eventually stumble into that inevitable streak loss that will take all of your money away including your profits. Gambling is based on luck and the ones that are possible to have profits in the long term are those that are actually betting. Those that do manually betting have that slight chance since everything in their way depends in luck and not some strategy.
How about basing on skills as well. It should be both if you really want to win in the long run, you should have a system and you must stick to that all the time, once you rage in gambling, everything will be ruin and your bankroll will be easy wipe out for sure.
8551  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: November 10, 2016, 01:59:51 PM
Well it does look good seeing it grew at the $700 to 750 range from the 650 to 700. It will be more like this happening in December seeing the holidays coming and many might use their coin for buying gifts.

If I am not mistaken, last year, when the holidays enter the price start to climb until January. So I am thinking that we will be having a happy holiday this time. Maybe we will see the same price hike just like last year if it repeats again.  Smiley

We cannot be sure about that. Past performance cannot guarantee future performance of bitcoin. And with bitcoin, just one bad news can bring down the price at a very low level. The most we can do is enjoy a high price while it last.

You are right about that but still it goes back to its price. Bitfinex fall was really a large quantity of bitcoin that was lost and a lot are disappointed with it. But look at the value right now. It is still in the peak and it is just my opinion though.
what happen was a blessing in disguise as we are able to buy cheap bitcoins. And now we are back again from where the price falls. The price is stable for the moment but it will surely rise in the coming days, we are just preparing for a big boom and hopefully we can see $1,000 before the end of the year.
8552  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: November 10, 2016, 01:56:19 PM
it's a good way to growing our money, holding bitcoin is part of my life Smiley
but trade it with profit is better than holding bitcoin.

Why limiting yourself to doing one thing, when you can do both long term holding and short term trading at the same time? I do exactly that. I have a certain amount of coins in my cold wallets that I will not touch in the coming 5-10 years (I have been holding them since early 2013). This is my long term investment.

Alongside that, I have a certain number of coins combined with a certain amount of fiat that I use to do my trading. That's how I get my profits. It doesn't really matter for me if the price goes down significantly, or goes up significantly. I make profit whilst trading either way. It takes plenty of my time, but it's definitely worth it.
Exactly, why not do both.. having both in your investment plan would minimize the risk in investing. There is no assurance that you can make profit in the future, but with short term investment there's a big possibility that you will make profit as you can monitor the price.

Yeah there is no guarantee that long term holding will give only profits to you, if price drops dramatically then holding will be useless so its always good to take benefits from short term fluctuations to make quick profits and that can be done if we are investing our money in trading bitcoins or altcoins.
Of course, there's no guarantee that is why we are here in investing as the risk is present, with what I see with bitcoin, I believe it's profitable investment and would be more profitable in the future, so I will definitely invest with the future of bitcoin but not all my money.
8553  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining coins save or sell it? on: November 10, 2016, 01:55:54 PM
You can save the coins and half of it to sell to earn profit. Seems bitcoin
right now is currently increasing though. If altcoin you're talking about
you can hold it since bitcoin is increasing and sold it if price increased.
Much better to save some coins we could not tell it will pump up high
the next.
I would not intend to hold altcoins, they are not good for future investment or if you do it's more risky than bitcoin. You see when bitcoin price increase altcoins decreases, they do not have the same movement.. So if people are supporting bitcoins, the price will increase and we can have more profit in the future if we hold.
don't hold your alt coin for too long, it will become worthless in the end, if you think the price is right just go to sell it, alt coin circulation is not as high as bitcoin, so it is really difficult to see an alt coin price to go up, so if there is a good opportunity go to sell it, it is different with bitcoin, bitcoin price is keep on rising so it's better to keep some for your investment

Holding altcoins for the long term can be really risky as we cannot be sure how long it will survive, it may disappear very next day so in that case if you are holding then you will be going through massive loss and we cannot have that level of trust in altcoins which we can have on bitcoins.
That would be my decision as well, I would to trust an altcoins for my money, the future is very unpredictable and base on the trend altcoins does not progress so fast as we already have bitcoin which is only good for long term investment.
8554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: November 10, 2016, 01:49:09 PM
The mistake that we frequently do in gambling is going all in. And then going back to the casino the next day, becoming outrageous, and then go all in again. Not only that it makes you lose all your money quickly, it also makes you go back the next day because you want to get back all of those losses.

But I still think that the worst mistake that you'll ever do in gambling is trying it for the first time. That very first bet can become the start of your addiction in gambling.
This is so right, one of the worst problem in gambling is to be part of it I mean is to try gambling once you gamble even for the very first time and that first time will bring you until you don't have enough money to gamble that you're mind set is to win and everyday you have the determination to win in gambling , and that brings you in addiction which has the bad aspect in gambling.
Conditioning your mind by thinking you will win everyday is like manipulating yourself, you are not living in reality so you better wake up. It's good to be realistic in gambling as that's what we need in the long run, luck is just for temporary wins.
8555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: November 10, 2016, 01:45:18 PM
Let me be honest here. I had been gambling long enough and I have made more than losing, not rich though, but I can say that I am in profit currently.
I think we should play it smooth and with calm mind, because playing it all of a sudden could end up in great loss and will get us nothing.
yes that is a fact that there are so many other people who are really making good money in gambling, to me those people who have some good experience in gambling and having good luck can make really good  money in gambling, i have personal experience of that,  as i have my friends who are making good money in gambling.
i think people who claiming themselves still in profit after gamble for long time enough it's just categorized on the rare case , as mostly ended up losing = negative profit. or maybe lucky enough and just the matter of time to get busted if then they decide to continue gambling.
Those who claim they are in profit is not a long time gambler, I guess no one is exempted here, we all lose in the long run unless you are too lucky. In gambling, our big problem is our self, we failed to manage especially when the game is too intense. We suddenly lose forum and out of the game plan.
are saying professional gamblers too? i guess they can't be called pro if they don't know how to take advantage with their edge against the house i understand your point but they are exemption us as a ordinary gambler we knew it that we are going to lose even we are keep trying to improved from time to time we played but like you've said greediness always eat us alive.

professional gamblers are called professional gamblers for a reason Smiley

but don't forget that those people are doing this for a living and nothing else so they have years of experience on their backs to work with.

besides they always play gambling games that are based on their skills not their luck alone. and that gives then enough edge to be able to always win and make profit.
The journey to become a professional gambler is very touch, I guess you need to have a decent bankroll to be able to call as professional. You give more time in gambling as you are making a living with it, I hope I can be like them one day but seems too far way as I do not have the discipline for now.
8556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 10, 2016, 01:41:38 PM
Wow Andrew Wiggins is becoming a better player also having a great win against Orlando Magic today, maybe its his motivation because his 2k rating is just 82. Having the average of 23.2 PPG 4.2 RPG with 46% FG shooting and 67% from beyond the arc. That is a major upgrade from last season. I hope the Wolves' slump will end with straight wins this month.
Those shooting percentages, especially from the three point line is going to drop sooner or later. But still, Andrew Wiggins, has shown a big improvement compared to his first two years in the league. It's actually nice to see him mature more as a player along with KAT and Zach LaVine and the other young guns of Minnesota.
its very exciting to watch that more and more players are showing their capability in terms of good competition i know its still early and most of the teams are in the trial stage but seeing that  they are really trying to compete against the giants and super power team thats enough to say that they are belongs to nba let see this young guns game from time to time now.
People are just too overactive here, it's just one win from the wolves after a unsatisfactory performance in the past. They have dominated the game but the magic team is not really a good team or shall I say "Every team has a bad day"..

If they can continue to win, maybe I am convince that they find a good chemistry already.
8557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 10, 2016, 01:31:57 PM
Anything that allows you to win money easy way you will try even just one time, the human does like challenge and rewards, and if you mix them you will get the result, the potencial earnings anyone can get at gambling make us believe we will win those someday.
What you said is true, I do earn money by working and it seems that no challenge at all, when you are just doing the same thing again and again and you are getting paid for it with the same amount seems no challenge. Hence, we think of getting into risky venture hoping that we can make bigger money in an easy way.
8558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: November 10, 2016, 01:25:21 PM
We all know betting is better then gambling because you have a certain degree of control. I wonder who of you have gone from gambling to only betting now much did your profits increase and what difference does it make ?

Haha gambling is betting. Gambling means you gamble you bet in a certain website which is acquire money. What I mean is general term of name is gambling. Betting is a subname of gambling. Just bet and you are in gamble or in gambling. Or vice versa just gamble and you are betting.
Well gambling and betting is not the same but there are related to each other. And yes you're right about what gambling is but I don't think about betting. Let's just say that gambling is anything (games, sports, etc.) that has a bet or rewards when you win and a punishment when you look lose.
There are not the same but pretty similar, they both have the risk and in trading you are still predicting the outcome just like in gambling. But what made you have a good chance to be successful in trading is that, information that you read is the actual event that is happening within the economy.
8559  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: November 10, 2016, 01:24:08 PM
it depends...
When i offer 20000 satoshi daily i offer 20000 satoshi daily if the bitcoin price is high or low...
in this situation the price of bitcoin does not matter.
A satoshi is a satoshi that is true but bitcoin does not exist in a vacuum bitcoin is exchanged to other currencies all the time and the value that people are willing to exchange their fiat for bitcoin is very important in almost any trade.
I think one of the reasons why people sell their bitcoin, and bitcoin reason why people buy is because of the price, they think the price will make them a profit, the price will always be important
In the general people does cara about the value of bitcoin, the traders and investors does care about those, sure if someone make a prize of 1 btc and its worthing 700, and if the same person makes the same prize and now bitcoin worthing 1000 dollars it will be a huge difference, even with the reward be the same at bitcoin.
I do care actually, I believe that when the price is high bitcoin is more valuable. The price is the representation of the value of bitcoin so definitely it is very important and it matters to us. If this bitcoin has no value, I would not use this and I am sure others will not use it also.
8560  Economy / Services / Re: Want to make some real legit money? on: November 10, 2016, 01:17:08 PM
We are a legitimate growing business who's helped 1,000's of people.
This is not a scam, it's not bull shit talk and beating around the bush.
We look for people who want this, who will fight and invest their time and money into making a better living for themselves. You have to want it! And we will deliver !!

Unfortunately for you and your business, those exact words fit the cliche that every HYIP or Ponzi say to make the customer feel comfortable. What's wrong in releasing the way you make profits? If it truly works, then there should be no issue with doing so. The investors who give you money deserve to know what's happening with their cash.

They aren't investing their money
in us. We provide ways they can make money on their own. We don't release this information fully because this is what we get paid to do.. This isn't about making you feel good about yourself and scam you for your money. This is about actual legitimate ways to make a good return on your money.

In the same post you deny your own words. First you say that no one has to invest money, and a moment later you write about return from our money.. How is possible get return from our money without investition?
The way in which you write does not even seems like schemes or HYIPs. It is directly copied from schemes / HYIPs!
HYIP is scam, period. I have not seen any HYIP that does not turn to be scam in the end. It's a pyramid scheme and I do not know why people still falls victim of this kind investment. Maybe sometimes due to desperate need of money our greediness strikes and we want a shortcut to make money.
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