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8561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto can be less volatile than gold? on: May 24, 2018, 06:33:57 PM
I don't think so.
Even if Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency is adopted by all the people, there will be whales that can manipulate prices.
The reason why gold price is more stable is not its adoption. Gold price is controlled by central banks.
Right, but let's not forget that in a market with a lot of potentials, the institutions will always have to get a huge position in such market and I would not be surprised if this market turns out to be like that. However, it would not change its decentralized nature anyway, but the thing here is that with a huge market capitalization and great level of adoption, it is entirely possible to have less fluctuation, but when is what we do not know.

With a huge market cap, I believe less volatile than gold is going to be possible. This is still a very small market compared to the larger market and we still do have a long way to go, which I believe anyone who understands the future potential will definitely know better. There would be less fluctuation in the long run, but we are still far from it I believe and with real life usage and main stream adoption, I believe we can get there fast.
8562  Economy / Speculation / Re: As bitcoin plunges, mega-bull Tom Lee stands by his $25,000 target on: May 24, 2018, 04:32:44 PM
Tom Lee's predictions never happen,so let`s hope that the price will reach 20K or 30K USD,I'm sure that it won't reach 25K USD.This guy just wants to stabilize the btc price and stop the bearish trend,by using his popularity and influence and spreading optimism acorss the crypto community.He is an "enemy" of the FUDsters.
At least he is better than our dear McAfee with all his bullshit $1m theories within few years, lol. He is on the bull’s side or probably faking it, who knows ? I know for sure, when it is time, we will definitely get to know. He never said bitcoin will be soaring to $25,000 immediately but he said this year and we cannot say he is wrong yet until this year ends.

I guess he played that part well, knowing that there is a possibility of having a few rally before the end of the year towards the previous ATH and maybe breaking it towards $25k but time obviously will tell.
8563  Economy / Speculation / Re: Survived 8000, time for $10k? on: May 24, 2018, 02:48:13 PM
Everybody is looking to $10k. I also expect that in the next month price will reach to $10k and till the end of this year to $20k. Let’s see what happens. Now people are investing again in bitcoin because the price is under $10k and the investors strongly believe that they will make handsome money from their investment in this year. We should think positive about bitcoin price.
I wonder how you guys sometimes usually get your expectation. First and foremost, $8k was not even the support to be looking at but $7800. Only and only if this gets to hold are we going to expect that the value will at least bounce and I guess we already have some crazy resistance already on the way down before we can even start considering $10k. One step at a time is all it takes, but for now, nothing is guaranteed.

I, unfortunately, can't see any correlation between resistance to $8k and getting over $10k soon. It can fluctuate between 7500-9500$ for a very long time. I begin to worry a bit
No need to worry as the market is bound to play however it wants to anyway with nothing we can definitely do about it. It is funny that a lot of people worry a lot over nothing they cannot change. The support I am really looking at though is the $7800 support for a while now. In the short time frame, we are still in a downtrend and we are not sure how this trend is going to be playing out for now except to just wait and watch. The market is pretty much in a very complex state at the moment though.
8564  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1 BTC = $7,992.71 should i buy and wait or on: May 24, 2018, 08:05:20 AM
If you want to buy, you can buy and stop asking. No one knows the answer to the question you are asking except yourself. We cannot tell what the future holds, but we can believe in what the long term may at least for those who are buying now and holding no matter what. Moreover, you are far at more advantage than those who have bought at the peak and still holding till date. Buy now, of it goes lower, and you still have cash at hand, you can buy more. Focus on the long term as long as you are trader, and stop fixing your mind on the short term.
8565  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Hitbtc death? on: May 23, 2018, 05:25:41 PM
What makes me nervous though is that I have some of my tokens in that exchanges which valued around $1K.  And with all the accusations, (it could be more), I need to be careful and make decisions to get out while I still can.
There has been scam accusation against this exchange platform right from the onset, and that makes me wonder if people just do not read reviews or they just like looking to add to their fleet of problems. This is a decentralized world and there are just some exchanges that one should be avoiding like plague and this is one of them.

No support, do not even know if devs are active except for their daylight robbery activities, and all these are enough for anyone to know they just cannot end up in a better position in the long run with an exchange like this.
8566  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Target Market of Bitcoin on: May 23, 2018, 04:27:21 PM
your question is difficult to digest, maybe you mean is the purpose of this bitcoin market is created, is it so ?, when talking about the target is the target community, the goal is to empower the community in economic progress.
The target market are the users and those who see the need to use it and as far as I am concerned, everyone globally is a target market except for the fact that those who have access to the internet and are more vast when it comes to using the internet will always have an upper hand in adopting earlier than those who do not. However, the main reason why bitcoin came about was so we could have a P2P method of transfer without the third party and the last time I checked every single person needs that as we all deserve some level of freedom.
8567  Economy / Marketplace / Re: I became a victim of the fraud on: May 23, 2018, 12:06:41 PM
I hope you don't get fired for this. If you have the private key to the wallet address then you will able to control where or when to send it or exchange it, but when you just did send it to an address that you don't possess the keys. Then you are in big trouble.
That is if he has not been fired yet looking at the time he posted this and now. That is a huge amount of money and he was really dumb to fall for such a thing sending such an amount in bitcoin to a supervisor that he possibly cannot trace. However, what I do not understand is that how did they converse ? Was it via email, phone call or SMS ?

If it was phone call, then he is really screwed but one way or the other, I believe the supervisor should have at least sent the bitcoin wallet address via email or something, and if he did not use an official number, then he is even more screwed !
8568  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does holding long term can be worthy despite of unpredictable market? on: May 23, 2018, 11:08:19 AM
Of course holding long term may be worthwhile. The hard part is finding a crypto that you believe will still be worth something in several years. There's over 1600 cryptos and all of them are still in their early phase. It's pretty clear that some of them will be around for years, but obviously not.

I suggest reading whitepapers of promising cryptos, finding one that you truly believe in, buying some, storing it on a ledger, and forgetting it for years.
Who knows, you may be able to find that early "amazon stock" of crypto, and come out with more money than you know what to do with.
It is definitely worthwhile as long as you are ready to clear your head from the daily noise of the market and stick to the belief in the market that you are holding. We sure do not know what the future holds for any market and the best thing is to always be very careful before even investing in any market at all by knowing if there is really a future for it at all and not you just end up bag holding a coin with no future at all. For a good project, you can always end up hitting a huge gain at the end if that project hits a pretty solid boom.
8569  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Follows these rules to be a successful trader on: May 23, 2018, 08:59:53 AM
Crap, who wrote those rules? a teenager of less than 15 years old? Came on, we all know how bussiness works in here, and if you do not know how to trade, just buy a bot to do the work for you.
Lol, most people always think these rules in trading will basically help them but the truth is that in real life and except you just want to hold, it is not that applicable to trading; at least most of them. Only thing you need is the knowledge to trade without putting emotions and ability to make quick decisions since you already had everything planned out.

People forget that a lot and they let their emotions play them or hold when the market is in a rapid fall when they should be stopping loss and buying back lower. Like you said, if anyone cannot trade, they should be buying a bot.
8570  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there a chance i will double or even triple my investment if i buy BTC now? on: May 23, 2018, 07:09:52 AM
In a current BTC price in the market,if i buy BTC now,is there a chance to double or even triple my investment?
Yes, there is a chance and there is also a chance that in the short term it might go lower than the amount you purchased it, so it is better you understand the volatility risk as well. However, in the long run, I am extremely sure you are not just going to be tripling your money, but you will be achieving even far more than that.

Bitcoin presently has actually gotten lower than it was from the previous ATH, and that is something that when it goes back testing from this spot, you should obviously be making up to that.
8571  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is bearish trend now. on: May 22, 2018, 07:49:44 PM
I'm afraid the bitcoin price will not go up as high as last year, because there are a lot of factors that can cause bitcoin prices will not be high anymore. One of the factors is the popularity of Ethereum, ethereum is currently quite popular and the amount of transaction activity per day has beaten bitcoin.
Well, nothing should be expected that much now and from the way things are in the market, the gospel through is that there is a huge mixed feeling. If you look at the weekly chart, it looks bullish, the daily chart is forming a higher low somehow until further notice, and the lower time frame, the market is filled with a lot of indecision. Nothing is actually certain and going way above $8900 still does not guarantee any bull sign as that is not even going to be a huge resistance to be more wary of anyway.
8572  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin breaking $20,000 again? on: May 22, 2018, 06:45:13 PM
More time is enough for this to take place, $20,000 was seen before so it will be seen once again, no questions about it. We all know it will try this price very soon with a pump wave.
More time could actually be a year or two as the case may be. However, the breaking of the $20000 can only happen if we are at least able to cross around $12k at some point and by then hopefully, we may get to see bitcoin hitting some pretty good ATH before the end of the year or testing the previous one. Time will basically let us know how things will eventually turn out as any assumption now is pretty much going to be a baseless one.

It really hard to move and reaching that price again. We are stuck with the price of $8k-$10k at this time, if we can break this price and take a move into $15k by 3rd quarter, then there is a huge chances of getting there. 
It is not hard as over time, it will get to break some of the resistance above us and possibly hit a good value before the end of the year, but the honest thing here is that only time is the only thing we have that can actually determine how that is going to end up. When is the only question we should just be asking as I do not see how that may pan out before the end of the year, but at least we still have about 7 months left before the year ends and absolutely anything can happen?
8573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin millioniares will crash Bitcoin to $400 on: May 22, 2018, 05:59:31 PM
People who brought Bitcoin at $50 or $100 or $400, they will sell at $1,000 or $5,000 or $10,000 to be a millionaire. If they do not sell Bitcoin and bitcoin goes back to $2,000 or $1,000, they will lose their millions ($$$$$)
They definitely will not. The more the progress bitcoin ends up having, the more it even gets better for them and who on earth will want to give that up for anything ?

You are only stating an assumption that is obviously not possible and even if some of them decides to offload what they have, as long as there is a demand for it, then there would be people ready to gulp it up and if not, I guess some of them will just have to give it up at lower values, but in the real sense, it is not something realistic to do or assume something like that would be possible in crashing bitcoin.
8574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The way to win in gambling on: May 22, 2018, 02:37:17 PM
There is no method nor proper guidelines to win in gambling. Sometimes instinct and positivity helps a bit but bottomline is we have to accept that it  all relies on luck. Some gamblers have applied their supersticious beliefs they have some rituals of their dos and donts, but then reality always prevails, that winning in gambling depends on your luck of the day😊
Anyone who is even looking for ways to win in gambling or thought he has been able to find a way should just know indirectly that they are set out for a huge loss. That mindset alone will make the person to want to bet big and there is one thing about nature, that way you think you found, will start working out for you pretty fine, probably some strategy and you get to excited that you want to put in more, thinking you are set to finish the house edge and then that moment of no return comes when it all just disappears with a loud thudding of heart beat and emotional rush, but still, they just never learn.
8575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Effects of Gambling on: May 22, 2018, 05:00:44 AM
See gambling is not a full time employment and it is completely different type of enterinmnet. We should not consider gambling as very serious money making, otherwise, you will end up in loss. This might be bad option if you keep gambling it might damage your ethics of loosing money.
Unfortunately, and even on this our forum, a whole lot of people have decided to take it as a full time employment and expecting that they are going to be getting something tangible from it consistently like a normal job and this really is quite funny. The reason a lot of people end up suffering from the effect of gambling is because of the mindset they have placed themselves in and once they are in that hole, coming out of it is not always easy.

Gambling also gives good effect if you are just lucky.As what above mention always have limitations because it can make a family broken for you have no more time for them.Your goal is to earn big profit without knowing you are destroying the reason why you strive harder.
If the good effect is to lose all you have or to keep getting your blood hot and your heart pumping pretty fast, then I guess we have nothing much to say. However, some may see it as fun and then paying to access those fun, since adrenaline rush can be fun sometimes though but not having some self-control in the process is where the main problem actually starts. Earning big profit from gambling is one step towards a huge mistake that anyone would be making as the sole reason to gamble.
8576  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Suggestion for trading on: May 21, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
do you have suggestions , how to avoid mistakes in trading and take less risk ?
and what need to learn for be a good trader ?
The most important thing is just to learn the basic things you need to know. Get to learn how to make good use of the indicators, most especially, MACD, Stoch RSI, Moving averages, as well as some other ones to follow trend such as the Ichimoku cloud to help you trade some basic supports.

Additionally, get to know about support and resistance, and how to use trend lines as well as some patterns to know how to make decisions. As long as you can get to know these few things, you can start applying them with little amount of money to start with until you are able to gain some confidence and know you are ready.
8577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 500$ investment on altcoin on: May 20, 2018, 08:05:04 PM
I want to invest 500$ on altcoin but I really confused on which coin I can invest and my investment will be long term. Please experts help me to choose altcoin to invest.
Why should you be confused as all you just need is to do some little bit of research, get to know what people are saying about some certain coins, use some of the article and resources online and see how you can dig further on the references they have made and this of course should help you in your decision making.

Sometimes, all we just need to make that decision is the search engine. The reason why I have said this is that there are lots and lots of altcoin and suggestions here may get you confused, but with some articles based on different expert opinion and your findings, you can filter out what to invest in with your $500.
8578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Why hold ethereum on: May 20, 2018, 07:12:48 PM
it's good to hold because Etherium is the second best cryptocurrency in my opinion and we can also see the huge volume of Etherium, then we can see Etherium technology so helpful
Yeah, and like most people always call it, it is like the queen to bitcoin based on support and with its high level of usage, I believe it already has so much going for it and that level of demand alone is good enough to keep it going. The platform of course will keep getting even more developed which gives it an edge over every other smart contract platform and in that way, things will definitely keep getting better for the holders in terms of profit.

Ethereum is more established since it has basic function that is really being used a lot which is the smart contract and has birthed a lot of tokens till date. Therefore based on that fact, it is definitely an altcoin worth holding for a very long term and as much as you definitely can. Recently, a lot of attention is being given to it as well in the crypto space and I am sure the sky is the limit for it as we get to see it increasing hugely in value over time.
8579  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price To $36K in 2019 - Expert Research on: May 20, 2018, 06:28:21 PM
It's nothing crazy like the $1 million by 2020 that John McAfee is predicting
He has lost his credibility a long time ago already. He made certain predictions last year and implies that it wasn't him having made that prediction, but someone else using his name. What? Video proof shows otherwise. Tongue

It's basically the same with all the shitcoins he keeps promoting for $100,000 in return. At some point he was accused of manipulation and whatnot, and then blatantly claimed his account was hacked and that it wasn't him.

This dude has serious mental problems. It's a billionaire. He shouldn't degrade himself like that for pocket change (yes, for him that's pocket change). He's nothing more than an eccentric old man with too much free time.
Credibility he may never ever be able to regain, lol. I am sure McAfee was never serious and all he was just busy doing was making his position to instigate some buying momentum in the market to make more money which would be the reason why he was even just busy supporting even shit coins and that was the moment I realized how unserious this guy has been all the while.

I am not a fan of expert opinion anyway, still I am just a fan of the charts and the trend and so far, that is fine by me. In my belief my chart analysis are the real experts to guide me better than anyone else in this world.
8580  Economy / Speculation / Re: Short term traders should read this on: May 20, 2018, 06:04:23 PM
This is a really good strategy because it sounds very conservative. The only problem here, newbie like me usually don't know what coins to buy. Should I buy coin only at top 25 in coinmarketcap or something else?
Yeah, it is indeed a very good strategy and an advice as well. So far, I have seen the rate at which altcoins are really having some pretty good fluctuations in the market and the uncertainty keeps growing even the more. I can see a lot of the altcoins bouncing though once the bitcoin market itself is showing some green light, but at this stage, it is quite difficult to trade without using the stop loss and trying to take the little you have been able to get.
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