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861  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▶︎►[COMPRO]◆[VENDO]◀︎◀︎-[BTC]◆[LTC] - PayPal, PostePay, Bonifico, Scambio MILANO on: April 04, 2014, 05:27:26 PM
Disponibile e affidabile, mi è stato di grande aiuto Wink
862  Economy / Exchanges / Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC on: April 04, 2014, 02:24:58 PM
The problem with these recent additional kyc requests is the lack of preemptive communication. I was sending in a decent volume for months with my already verified account without an issue or any request from them, then suddenly one of my wires didn't show up for a week and they started the additional kyc procedure stating I crossed some volume thresold (actually my volumes toward them in the last couple of months were pretty low), and only after I opened a support ticket.

I'm fine with providing all the information needed and already answered but I would have organized differently had they notified me beforehand. Stuck with zero funds now and it's costing me money, weekend coming and unable to wire elsewhere, too.

You should ask for all the documentation upfront when verifing accounts for the first time. Or at least warn the customer that you will require more if one crosses a certain thresold (and be precise about how much during what period...).
863  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: ▌█【WTB】[BITCOIN]/[BTC-E CODE] ♦ [SEPA] ♦ HIGHLY trusted member █ ▌ on: April 03, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
Can you accept SEPA transfers? I don't have direct funds on paypal right now, unfortunately.
864  Economy / Currency exchange / ▌█【WTB】[BITCOIN]/[BTC-E CODE] ♦ [SEPA] ♦ HIGHLY trusted member █ ▌ on: April 03, 2014, 07:00:10 PM
**BEWARE OF SCAMMERS IMPERSONATING ME ON SKYPE! ALWAYS pm me here to confirm, and WAIT FOR MY RESPONSE, no matter what. Also click on skype profile properties and verify the nick is "GHIBLY79" exactly, not "GHLBLY79" or some other shit ^^'**

I'm a pretty well known italian trader (my thread in sig).
Starting this thread as yet another backup buy channel.



• Looking to buy bitcoins at Bitstamp price, SEPA wire transfer (or other options, though my other international options are limited and fees will be on you).

The problem is I'll need the btc immediately (that's why I'm opening the thread to begin with): I already use exchanges extensively but sometimes they delay wires for no reason and I may need more instant funds.

I know this kind of request involves a lot of trust but I have a very long positive trade history (see below).



Contacts

Skype: ghibly79 (READ THE BIG RED MESSAGE ABOVE xD)
Private message: Pm
Email: ghibly79@libero.it
Localbitcoins: ghibly79


Feedbacks

Main thread (italian): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216930.0
Paypal buy thread (english): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=374845.0

Plus all my feedbacks under trust (I'm under the default trust tree too).



You can use me if you want to cash out some btc reliably. I'm expecially looking for a regular seller with this method.

Regards
865  Local / Mercato valute / Re: 20 milioni di dollari in BitCoin on: April 03, 2014, 03:37:49 PM
Sezione sbagliata. Posta nella main (Italiano).
866  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 03, 2014, 03:19:14 PM
How long does it take usually to wire internationally from sepa area to bfx? (Italy)
867  Local / Mercato valute / Re: 【VENDO • COMPRO • CAMBIO】BITCOIN.....BEST PRICE..... 342-6105201 !! on: April 02, 2014, 07:39:45 PM
Onesto e disponibile Wink
868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★BOUNTIES★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 02, 2014, 01:53:23 PM
2 wall was not enough, the real problem is that stupid 3 wall.
Just don't sell a cent at 1: they will resell at 2 or 3 instantly with 2x-3x profit, building walls again.
869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★BOUNTIES★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 01, 2014, 04:19:44 PM
Just clear that 3 wall already xD Put some support at 2 - 3, do some minimal buying at 4 an maybe the whole thing can start snowballing.
870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★BOUNTIES★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 01, 2014, 03:58:01 PM
Better decide fast Mr. Whale cause some dumb fuck is already dumping again at 2 ^^'
They can't have infinite Zeit to dump though...
871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★BOUNTIES★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 01, 2014, 03:55:48 PM
Now do the same for that 24 at 3 xD It's that stupid wall that is killing the coin, though I'm still convinced it's fake (if someone wants to dump that much he would have dumped already and when attacked it grows by 4-5 btc every time).

Thanks guys. And yes that .3 wall is killing everyones trading hearts....

...I might clear that wall too. Depends. I'll let you guys know my thought process once i've decided.

No guarantee ofc but some action might come by if you clear that one and people see trade volume skyrocketing.

I'd help myself but I'm already 4 btc in and have more locked elsewhere for now.

Precisely.

Though in my mind, I don't mind clearing that 24 BTC wall. I just want to see if I can get some volunteers to time it in sync. If I can get some guys to clear the 4 and 5 wall at the same second that I clear the 3. Then i'd be satisfied.

If the damn mint go over 22 ^^' Don't want to sell them at a loss. 0 btc left to invest otherwise, for now.
872  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★BOUNTIES★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 01, 2014, 03:48:32 PM
Now do the same for that 24 at 3 xD It's that stupid wall that is killing the coin, though I'm still convinced it's fake (if someone wants to dump that much he would have dumped already and when attacked it grows by 4-5 btc every time).

Thanks guys. And yes that .3 wall is killing everyones trading hearts....

...I might clear that wall too. Depends. I'll let you guys know my thought process once i've decided.

No guarantee ofc but some action might come by if you clear that one and people see trade volume skyrocketing.

I'd help myself but I'm already 4 btc in and have more locked elsewhere for now.
873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★BOUNTIES★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: April 01, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
Now do the same for that 24 at 3 xD It's that stupid wall that is killing the coin, though I'm still convinced it's fake (if someone wants to dump that much he would have dumped already and when attacked it grows by 4-5 btc every time).

Or at least try reducing it significantly Wink
874  Local / Mercato valute / Re: .... [[ SCAMBIO 9 LITECOIN CON 0.3 BITCOIN!! ]] ....Massima serietà!! on: March 31, 2014, 10:11:00 AM
As usual: vuole il btc prima, si dilegua quando si accenna all'escrow. Extreme caution.
A parte che non si posta nel thread di un altro, si apre il proprio.
875  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: March 28, 2014, 12:59:35 PM
Done, grazie.
876  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: March 28, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Ti ho risposto eh xD
877  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: March 28, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Visto ma no, mi spiace, non sono interessato a quello scambio.
878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [JUST LAUNCHED][STD] StandardCoin - Anti Pump And Dump - Permanently Rising Rate on: March 28, 2014, 01:54:12 AM

Small side remark: investor 2 did not necessarily instantly lose 20 BTC. I would expect that there is a secondary market for STD's (at cryptsy etc) and the price there will be >GER. he did not lose 20 BTC unless the secondary market immediately drops to the GER.
But yes, I've been saying since my first post that the GER (or lower bound) only guarantees a fraction of the price STD's are bought for (unless they happen to be traded at GER on the secondary market). And that the GER becomes ineffective as the price rises and the STD reserve is being depleted.

Another op paid sockpuppet in disguise. I hope you are, or go study more, you really really need.
Tired. Now bye.
I'd suggest you stop dragging discussions onto an emotional and insulting personal level if you cannot convince with intelligence and facts. That is unworthy of a 34 year old.

Take a breather, look at the facts and be objective. There's no shame admitting that you didn't understand the system in detail first - that's the way we learn! And if you cared to read my posts you'd see enough instances where I criticize this coin.

I already admitted that point. It's not that I didn't understand: I didn't read the examples thoroughly cause I knew it was a ponzi from basic reasoning, and I was giving scammer op more credit as a scammer. I overestimated him xD

He is maintaining nobody can lose, everybody can only gain and that's the very definition of fraudolent investment=ponzi scheme.

Fractionary guaranteed value means you will lose if not enough new investors come after you (or if they withdraw before you), while he's trying to get investors in promising guaranteed return (fraud). Not to mention that fraction comes at the expense of someone else.

If you sell it on a free market you are just taking over the coin, avoiding or mitigating the scam, but that doesn't cancel out the scam attempt!

You are making it sound like the op just missed to mention the "scheme exploding risk" by mistake, so the project should just be "criticised" while he's openly saying the opposite following the most classic of ponzis and that makes him a scammer.
879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [JUST LAUNCHED][STD] StandardCoin - Anti Pump And Dump - Permanently Rising Rate on: March 28, 2014, 12:13:45 AM
..........

I buy apples.
First apple costs me 1$.
Second apple 2$.
3rd 3$.
And so on.
Last apple 10$.

Now I sell all apples back at 10$. Will I be getting more or less $ back?

And if I get more (obvious) who is paying for those extra $?

No need for formulas either, really. It's that simple....
Yes, no need for formulas, you probably don't understand them.
It's obvious you did not read through the mechanics at all, and you don't even care how it works. You could criticize obviously flawed/dangerous aspects, e.g. the centralized nature. Instead you go on rambling about sth. you don't understand.

Again, you CANNOT buy STD's at the GER - that's only possible on the secondary market if at all.

Your apples example would look more like that:
buy apples at 1$, 2$, ..., 10$ and then sell for 1.5$. Are you going to make a profit?

Think about this: a similar effect happens when you buy stocks. By buying stocks you push up the price. By your argument if you buy a lot, push up the price a lot and then sell you automatically make a profit. Believe me, this is not the case. I work in this field.

So you are saying the system calculate the new GER when executing your order, then gives you BTC/newGER in STD? In this case initial investors 100mil will be worth 2x after that (30 btc total in my example). If they now sell back, new investors are the bag holders ^^'
Last seller will be holding the bag either way you do the calculation, cause it's a Ponzi ^^'
That is closer to the true nature of the system, although you don't buy at GER, neither at oldGER nor at newGER. You buy at 2*newGER up to 10*newGER.

Your argument about bagholders actually holds for every crypto-currency. The last BTC buyer holds the bag. (if the dev is trustworthy and no hacks happen) this bag in theory has some value in terms of BTC for STD's, but that value can also be pretty small.

No, cause legit cryptos price can drop. That's the fundamental difference as already stated. You can buy at whatever price with whatever formula: if the price go only up you will need more and more btc to buy back so someboby will lose money in the end, while OP is trying to suggest NOBODY CAN LOSE. That's a ponzi scheme, by definition (go read it on wiki).
With normal cryptos you KNOW you can lose money cause price can go down.
No amount of out of your ass formulas can change base logic sorry (not working on me anyway).
Another op paid sockpuppet in disguise. I hope you are, or go study more, you really really need.
Tired. Now bye.

[EDIT] by the way you were right on one point, too bad this favors my thesis even more.

From website

"Current AMC is 40 BTC. Total stored STD for new investors is: 200,000,000 (50% coins of network). Investor 2 invests 40 BTC.

 AMC is now increased to 80 BTC.
 Investor 2 will receive: (40/AMC * stored STD) = 40/80 * 200,000,000 = 100,000,000 STD
 The new GER is: GER = AMC/MMS = 80/400,000,000 = 0.000000020 BTC (~ 20 satoshi)." (<-- there is 1 more zero than necessary, but it's a website typo)

So investor 2 just bought 100 mil STD for 40 btc and now the GER is 20 satoshi, so he can sell them back for 100mil*20satoshi=20 btc and the value will stay like that if no new investors come, so investor 2 just INSTANTLY LOST 20 BTC (went to initial investors, practically).

Initial investors are also losing money: they get 100mil STD paying 40 btc (again, from website example) but the GER will be 10 satoshi, so their 100 mil will be worth only 10 btc if no new investor come.

So I was partially wrong: THE SCAM IS EVEN MORE EVIDENT than I initially thought. OP's not even trying to cover it up xD haahahaah dying laughing.
880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [JUST LAUNCHED][STD] StandardCoin - Anti Pump And Dump - Permanently Rising Rate on: March 27, 2014, 10:09:53 PM
Nope, number of posts doesn't necessary mean anything, but some more experience with all the frauds going on here may just give you that edge. Also Tomatocage is pretty good at spotting scammers, he showed it over a long period of time.

Beside that I provided extensive (overextensive.... given the simplicity of the problem) explanation. No need to trade coins with him, his scam isn't based on trading trust. It's a ponzi, another thing. Matematically proved ponzi.

It's like saying "hey, send me your btc, I'll give you back (1-1)*(15-45sqrt9/4^(4/3)*13-2) btc"
"but that's zero btc..."
"shut up u noob you don't understand the system"
"scammer.... -6 trust..."
"omg abusing the system"

You guys are CUTE.

Over. For real this time.
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