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861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alibaba and those GPUs on: January 29, 2018, 06:42:26 PM
Thanks all for your recommendations. Any tips on where to find those golden precious GTX 1080 Ti GPUs?

Sign up for notifications with each retailer and hope you see it before they sell out. 
862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: All of a sudden my 1070 went from making me $5 a day to barley $3 on: January 29, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
Another thing is your profitability is based on when you sell, not when you mine.

As long as people keep overpaying for cards, retailers will continue marking them up.

Exactly.  You shouldn't be converting to fiat daily right now, in my opinion.  Could go either way, but if you didn't believe that the coin you are mining isn't going to go up in the future, you probably wouldn't be mining it to begin with, right? 
863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Free Coins? on: January 29, 2018, 02:21:26 PM
When i can get free coins?

Joel and Travis were giving away free badcoin in 2017.  They were/are worth zero, but they were free.
864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Money to invest in mining on: January 29, 2018, 04:25:20 AM
If you wait 6 months your 1 Bitcoin will probably be worth $20,000 again or even more.

That is a mistake idiots always do, they mostly sell when a coin loses 40 or more %, never when is high.

If it was me, I would never sell for less than $18k.

I don't think anyone whould be telling him where he should start thinking about selling, when we don't know where he bought in.  But yeah ... I wouldn't sell at 15K, if I bought in at 10K.  And you certainly shouldn't consider selling now, if you bought in at 18K. 

But if he acquired that 1 btc for 1K, I'm not going to tell someone that they shouldn't take a profit in fiat.  Maybe not 100%, but do what you feel comfortable with.
865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Money to invest in mining on: January 29, 2018, 03:12:39 AM
Cheap enough ... I pay 0.10 cents usd per kwh and I'm extremely happy with what my mining farm is doing.
866  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Did GPU prices just double in the last few weeks on: January 29, 2018, 03:07:28 AM
Are you in the US or CA?  

Neither, my point is, gpus go to whoever is paying more for them. For example, if a retailer in any location in the world is paying $600 to sell at $800, gpus will go to them first until that retailer don't need anymore. Manufactures and resellers are loving this, the idiots end users buying them will not be happy in few weeks or months.

My comments are USA related as far as prices that I'm quoting goes, but when I say reseller, I mean small time reseller ... Not major retailers like B&H, Fry's Electronics, Best Buy, New Egg, ect.  Some of those major retailers do allow small time resellers to sell within their platform and those are the people who are price gouging out the ass in the United States.  But for the most part in the USA, the major retailers that I speak of are not pumping prices.  I've seen increases, but not an astronomical increase.  None of them that I have purchased from in the past few months are even 15% higher than MSRP.  You just have to be patient if you are buying gpu's at the moment. 

I agree with you.  People who are paying double or triple or more than MSRP right now are going to be very disappointed in the long run as opposed to just investing in the coin that they wanted to mine to begin with.  Maybe those gpu's they paid too much for will eventually pay for themselves, if they make the right market moves and maybe they will not.  That's total speculation that I'm not even going to get into right now, but the fact is that the longer it takes for the card to pay for itself, the less time you have for that card to generate a profit before it enters the ending days of it's life.
867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Change PCIe from gen3 to gen1 on: January 29, 2018, 02:52:56 AM
Or better yet, go to the Gigabyte site and find the manual there.
868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Change PCIe from gen3 to gen1 on: January 29, 2018, 02:51:05 AM
I found the manual but can not find the keywords that I am looking for...

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1271137/Gigabyte-X299-Aorus-Ultra-Gaming.html?page=61#manual

Any ideas?


Download the PDF and search from Adobe Reader ... Not sure if you're searching the entire document or just the current displayed page from the online version on that site.
869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Change PCIe from gen3 to gen1 on: January 29, 2018, 02:49:17 AM
Thank you. This is very helpful. Now if I can only find this option in this bios...



It's there.  I had to poke around a lot to find it on my MSI.  One reason I never throw away the MB book.

Same reason I never throw away Google Wink ... I do like keeping the paper manuals though.


Wink Thanx didn't think of that. I am learning.

Most of the manuals can be found online.  I still keep the paper ones though.
870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Did GPU prices just double in the last few weeks on: January 29, 2018, 02:36:37 AM
I have close connect to one of the biggest hardware distributors in North America.
I deal with Canadian office. But they huge in usa.
B2b only. No retail sales.

Here what happened with prices just last 3 weeks.
Rx570 they had for 342cad and order would take 21 business days.
I ve seen in a week price was 400. Then 402. Then recently 442. Today price was 416..

I dont convince myself 442 plus tax is worth it. I could consider 300-350 price range at max.

They got 500 cards delivered and sold imemdiatelly.

Now the order is 1100 cards.

Who are these people who buy cards for 500 bucks havìng 2dollars profit from each. Its a long time even to break in.

100% when money will be returned. New cards and algos will ve in. So again. Why people buying is beyond my understanding.

Where I live is worse than that, they are paying $800 for a rx 580 and by the looks of it, it will be $1200 very soon cause they did not change the price at all and this has been for 2 weeks and idiots are buying , retailers are using this opportunity to get as much money as possible from these idiots. A month ago it was $250. I have no idea why they are buying at these prices, this is stupid, my friend who is a miner stopped buying cards on march 2017 and he never paid more than $220 for polaris. He is a smart guy.

Are you in the US or CA?  There is a 20% difference in the dollar between the two, but anyway ... Asking because when you post prices, I'm trying to figure out what currency you're speaking of.  In the US, even the shit stain Amazon, eBay, and NewEgg resellers aren't asking $800USD for a RX580.  More like sub $600USD for that card.  Regardless, I wouldn't pay $500USD for a RX580.

And no one in their right mind is going to pay $1200USD for a RX580 in the near future.  If they do, they deserve to lose their shit based on the lack of research that they put in.  Major retailers are not currently doing it and I don't forsee them ever price gouging remotely close to the extent of the small time resellers that are trying to make a quick buck.

I don't even care what the dumbass smaller time resellers are charging these days, because I would never buy from them anyway.  No one should be starting out in gpu mining right now, if they are buying high from a small timer.  Just fucking watch, wait, and make your purchase from a large retailer who isn't trying to fuck you in the ass.



871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Change PCIe from gen3 to gen1 on: January 29, 2018, 02:10:13 AM
Thank you. This is very helpful. Now if I can only find this option in this bios...



It's there.  I had to poke around a lot to find it on my MSI.  One reason I never throw away the MB book.

Same reason I never throw away Google Wink ... I do like keeping the paper manuals though.
872  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Money to invest in mining on: January 29, 2018, 01:39:11 AM
Power here is only .074/Kwh Springfield ,MO USA

And your point is what?
873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU mining will die in 2018! on: January 28, 2018, 04:31:50 AM
Well, if it died before, was resurrected, and now will die again... who cares if it will just be resurrected again?  Mine responsibly.  Friends don't let friends mine drunk.

Friends don't like friends buy gpu's drunk ... Lol ... Also ... This thread will die in 2018.  Anyone want to hedge against it? Lol. 
874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: i am literally thinking about renting a cheaper apt to continue mining on: January 28, 2018, 04:28:35 AM
get that cheaper apt, and HASH AWAY. its your ticket to the moon!

Lol ... What will he do on the moon?  To my knowledge, there isn't anyone else living there full time.  Although, I have been looking at realestate up there.
875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Did GPU prices just double in the last few weeks on: January 28, 2018, 03:51:18 AM
Jeez... what’s with all the hostility? How many times as the shortage hit and prices sky rocket? Then things return to normal, then it happens all over again. Surely we’ve all seen this show already... there isn’t even a new twist, it’s exactly the same as the last 5 times

Oh we have.  Some just don't think the show will go on and on and on.  Some think they know what the end all, be all really is.  Maybe their guess is correct and maybe it is not, but it isn't anything other than a guess.  Anyone entering this market by any means, should consider it to be highly speculative, and be ok with losing 100% of their investment. 

Other than that ... Speculate on, mine on, invest on ...
876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU mining will die in 2018! on: January 28, 2018, 03:43:52 AM
Equihash is very hard to build asics for due to the increase in memory requirements

but i dont think gpu mining will die, there are so many algorithms out there  , there should always be something to mine even when Eth ends

Neo Scrypt is also ASIC resistant.  GPU mining isn't going anywhere, it's the coins we mine that will change!

Wink  Algos, but yes, I agree.
877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Did GPU prices just double in the last few weeks on: January 28, 2018, 03:41:16 AM
I'm going to continue ... I agree with you that people should not be buying up gpu's at current insane prices from small timers.  I don't agree with you in the aspect that gpu mining dies in 2018, because you think ASIC's will take over Equihash.  Who gives a fuck about Equihash.  None of my rigs are even mining that algo today.  You may have not said it in this thread, but you have in others.  And that is where I don't agree with you at all.
878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Did GPU prices just double in the last few weeks on: January 28, 2018, 03:34:07 AM
There is no point to buy titan for 3k doing 77mh.

It seems logical for the idiots, if we take current prices, $800 for a rx 580. I bet Titan gives 4 times or more performance than rx 580.

Do you take into consideration that the idiots who pay those prices are a very small percentage of the mining community?  And very new at that.  Probably trying to build their first mining rig.  The number of cards available at those insane prices don't even allow it to make up that much of the market.  We're talking small time eBay sellers ... Small time businesses who only sell gpu's, because they think they can make a buck from it.  None of the large scale retailers are price gouging to the extent that you speak of.  X2, X3, X4.

B&H, Newegg, Amazon, MicroCenter, Fry's, Ect ...  None of them have ever asked $1200, $1300, $1400, $1500 for a 1080ti.  

Some of those companies have platforms that allow for resellers to sell at whatever price they want, through their website.  It's like the "Buy It Now" eBay of NewEgg or whatever other company that offers that to small timers.  

Case in point ... I emailed a Amazon seller that I bought from back in November at a very good price about cards that I wanted a few weeks ago.  Those dumbasses actually sent me an email back saying they some stock, but they could not fulfill my order.  They also wanted X3 per card at the time compared to what I paid them for the same cards in November.  I told them that they were insane and I explained why.  Their reply was that they sell gpu's at current market value.  Perhaps their current market value isn't updated on a regular basis, but I essentially told them to fuck off, and let me know when they wanted to sell their stock.  

If you want to sell a card for $500 when btc is valued at 10K, you shouldn't be asking for X2, X2, X4 when btc is valued at 11K.  That's just hte result of a shortage by the manufacturer and a handfull of stupid idiots.  

879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Did GPU prices just double in the last few weeks on: January 28, 2018, 12:44:19 AM
Here where i live, there are NO cards usable for mining at all. Everything from 1050 ti and above is just sold out.

Same here in the Midwest USA.  I mean you can find them, but you have to pay double or triple msrp and that's a horrible business decision.
880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: i am literally thinking about renting a cheaper apt to continue mining on: January 28, 2018, 12:25:37 AM
I'm considering moving to Detroit to buy old houses at~20k USD on a first home mortgage, mine in an unfinished room while upgrading the rest of the home, then sell and move everything to the next.  It seems like the best way to take advantage of the current markets and Michigan already has cold winters with high heating costs so mining as a form of heat is a plus. 

Make sure you install steel bars on all of the windows of those old houses in Detroit. 
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