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861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun and not a way of making money on: February 23, 2024, 05:58:18 AM
Op has made some good point on his explanation about gambling for fun. It's not a big thing to understand. The trouble with people is that they forget easily about the importance of gambling for fun. Like Op stated the whole process of gambling is closely related to how we spend money on other utilities. The same thing applies to giveaway, paying for football matches, going to the mall or park etc. Such activities take up our money, and we don't regret paying for the fun we've earned there. Gambling isn't an exemption; the difference is the money casino promises to players. More like if a restaurant pays people for eating, lots of humans would overfeed there, just for the money reward. That's what is going on in casino. People are meant to enjoy the moment there, but due to the money it's quite hard for the players to focus and stick to the exact time for them to leave the vicinity. Which causes harm to the emotions of the gambler, and his loss of money.
862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction does more harm than mere financial loss on: February 20, 2024, 07:09:13 PM
If gambling can be enjoyed then financial losses may not have a major impact. But when gambling turns into an addiction, a gambler will face a different situation as well as financial losses. The gambler will continue to gamble even after losing his money, which will affect the person to a greater extent than the loss of the money. Any addiction can affect people negatively. There will be no mistake in saying this in that direction. Addiction is certainly more harmful than financial loss. When a gambler loses financially, it can be recovered later, but the losses the gambler faces due to addiction cannot be compensated with money.
In enjoying gambling, we must be able to control ourselves well so that we don't experience too big a financial loss. Most gamblers cannot control themselves, which causes them to experience large financial losses because they have lost a lot. This is something that must be avoided because whatever money you use for gambling will only run out and you will not be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment. There will be a desire to avenge the defeat you experienced, so it will trigger you to gamble excessively. And if you gamble too much, you will only experience bigger losses and it will be difficult to recover from them. Apart from that, there will be a problem of gambling addiction that befalls you if you remain unaware of it because you are getting deeper into gambling.

Trying to take the wins from the house by force is a fight greedy gambler can't win the house is in control of the game. Why would a gambler try to win using any possible means, to an extent of wagering all his money. The endless effort of chasing loss without any result only leaves the gambling wondering about his incapabilities of winning. Hence, he'd continue, until he gets addicted. Any amount of money that gets to his way will go back to gambling. Addiction and financial loss are incomparable, but one can't get addicted to gambling without losing lots of money in the process, maybe in his venture of wining back his lost money. Since there work hand in hand, gamblers in order not to get addicted, need to be careful about financial loss. Hence self-control can limit the amount of money a gambler loses while gambling. The anxiety of losing too many puts lots of players into problem gambling. But in a literal sense, addiction is way too bad and also requires finance to get cured.
863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do people truly risk their money on bets for profit? on: February 20, 2024, 06:42:05 PM
When people study, they always say that they are studying to achieve their dreams, but when people become adults and need a job to earn money, then people focus on studying courses that are most sought after in the job market. , and when they get a job, they say they are working because they love that job, but in reality they are working because they need money. They do their job well and are compensated with money, which in this case is their salary. It's a win-win situation for both parties. On one side we have the owner of the company who needs employees to do certain tasks and on the other side we have people who need jobs so they do the tasks of the place where they work and receive salaries.

in casinos it's exactly the same thing, what we have is that on one side there is the casino owner who needs customers to make a profit and on the other side we have customers who are playing for fun and who also want to win money, I usually I play for fun but I try very hard to make a profit. Of course, I don't exaggerate and I manage my bankroll in a rational way so that I don't get lost in gambling addiction, because the search for profit is what has made many people follow the path of gambling addiction, and I don't want to this for me. But it's a reality that most people play because they want to win and make money, and that makes perfect sense. It wouldn't be fun to lose

Great analysis enjoyed reading your write up, its easily understandable why people get into confusion while gambling. They spend hours gambling for the money, as if they want to achieve their dreams. But the aim is for the money. They end up losing out lots of it, and keep on trying to earn few more funds, through gambling. While the casino boss is busy doing his parts on the Ads, looking for more gamblers to fund the business. This shows how simple it is to understand how the gambling niche is been managed. Also, why people shouldn't think the money wagered on gambling is an investment. As it's not what they think it is, gambling is for fun purposes and for the need to relax after a busy day or week.
864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: February 20, 2024, 06:10:00 PM
That's the technique for getting more traffic, which affects the bank roll of the low roller. Moving forward the player begins to lay blames on the streamers for being the reason why they lost all their funds, gambling. It then starts to affect the emotional state of the gambler that he'd begin to lose control and get problem in his gambling process. However, when a high roller is watching a streamer play, he could be following his moves without much problem because the high rollers has the sufficient funds to take care of himself, without running broke. The low rollers, find it so hard as the money is needed to solve other financial responsibilities. So, the viewers who has enough money can play like the streamers, while those who don't have enough should focus in saving up money for other things. It's wrong to go short of money, due to gambling.

that's true, it could happen, with the fact that the strategy given by the streamers and them imitating it ultimately only leads them to defeat, maybe they will blame the streamer, but that's no use, what is clear is that it can trigger their emotions increase which could make them have a grudge against gambling which could also trigger them to big losses, because with the grudge they have it can make them lose self-control which leads them to take actions that are beyond the limits such as depositing money back in pursuit of winnings.

Sometimes it is true that if someone has lost self-control because of the gambling they do, they may gamble using money that they should not use for gambling, for example money that is designated for basic needs, this can happen, because heightened emotions make it possible They will continue to gamble with the aim of getting a win that can cover the losses they have experienced.

Having grudges for the streamer doesn't solve any problem for the gambler, because he, the player, wasn't taken by his hands to gamble like the streamer. Removing such thoughts can help the player relax his nerves and focus on wagering few amounts of money. Gambling is not meant for people who are on the search for quick profits. And that's the weak point the streamers are utilizing while promoting big wins on their platforms, with money sponsored by the casino. Nothing comes easy, but newbie gamblers think that money can be made easily via gambling. However, they end up finding out that their thoughts were wrong all along, instead of accepting the responsibility they end up blaming the streamer. Since they don't take it on themselves that it's their fault, they'll want to prove it by wagering more money to get their funds back immediately. Some also conclude that they must hit one max win before quitting gambling. Numerous self-determination that keeps gamblers to continue chasing losses.
865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investment in gambling on: February 20, 2024, 05:47:40 PM
Investment and gambling are two different things that have no comparison between them. Gambling is what we do for fun by trying our luck in predicting the possible outcome of a game, even though the addictive ones sees it as a means of income, that is why gambling addict are mostly been liquidated due to the fact that they saw it as a means of making money.

While investment is a totally different from gambling in the sense that you put your money into something or any business and be expected a profit in return in the nearest future, but what you are saying about how you invested into ponzi scheme even when you know how dangerous it is, to me it's totally unwise and it should be avoided by all means.
Yeah, we know that is two different thing that cannot be compared. The Investment purposes giving a profit to the Investor. While Gambling is something that uses Money to play the Game. Playing Gambling is what we do to have fun in our spare time so that we don't have to Gamble daily. It's better to get addict to the Investment rather than addict to Gambling because at least, in investment, we can have a chance to make a profit. Getting addict to gambling only gives us many problems. You need to choose what You want and if you don't want to end up by addict to Gambling, you can choose the Investment.

Investment is really different than Gambling , you don't have to confuse and not think much about Gambling. If you play Gambling too often, you can lose much money. But if you Invest in something like Bitcoin, you can make a Profit. You choose what you want , I guess you and I already know that Invest in Bitcoin is something that can give a big profit while Playing Gambling can make you lose much money.

Aren't you concerned about cryptocurrency investor who see gambling as a way of multiplying their crypto holding. Lots of gamblers are into it for millions and one reasons. And we may not be able to detect why some people are into gambling, due to the numerous reasons. However, investing on the right business can be better than hoping on gambling as a way of making money. But that shouldn't be Ponzi as Op is saying on his thread. Those can end up closing up anytime soon. The only method for making money is by building a sustainable business that solves problem. Other than that, gambling and Ponzi isn't the right choice for anybody, regardless of how promising it may seem. Moreover, some investments still are not profitable on the long run, investors, also have a fair share of losses when investing. They also need to invest time researching on the best amongst every investment available. For instance, in the crypto space, aside bitcoin, most investors are not sure of what profits their altcoin could yield them during the bull run and how much they can lose on the bear season.
866  Other / Off-topic / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: February 20, 2024, 05:29:38 PM
I went to a betting shop around my locality then I bet with $10 and lose all of them so I was holding  up to $1 separately for transporting my self back to my residence, but funny how I staked with my transport money and won.
Although, I had more money on my account that I can use for transporting my self back to my house if incase I lost the physical cash, that was why I wasn't afraid to stake with it.
this is a bad idea that shouldn't be applied at all. It's very important to know when you should stop and it's even bad that you have to gamble up to your last cash before thinking on quitting and to attempt gambling out your last physical fund is a risk you should avoid.

This is one of the reason why it's necessary to have a budget before engaging in a daily or weekly gambling. Set an amount you can't go above regardless of the urge to do so. You can't be lucky all the time and you should know that because uku won on that said day doesn't mean you will always win. Today you had some spear cash with you that enabled you to comfortably gamble with your transportation fare. The next day, it might be that you don't even have a dime in your account and because you where fortunate to win in the last one would become the negative motivation that willake you become an unplanned beggar on the way.

The only difference is that she won using her last cash, which reason birthed this thread. However, it's risky and shouldn't be done next time, as the player could be making lots of mistakes. However, I respect the fact that Op stopped after winning with the last cash, some may have continued gambling with the extra profit. I remember winning by going all in, and that has been my best memory of gambling. But that was not all the time. Sometimes, when gambling, it seems like the game gets to connect with me and I could detect the exact moment to go all in. Most of the time it works like magic, yet sometimes, I'd have to go with no money left with me. Gambling can be tricky; hence gamblers have to be smart when wagering money. Self-control maintains that when the allocated money for gambling has been exhausted the gambler should endeavor to stop. This thread also proves the saying that no accurate strategy in gambling, she tried her luck using her transport fair and she gained more profits.
867  Other / Off-topic / Re: Having a regular/steady income is important as a gambler. on: February 20, 2024, 05:04:20 PM
Gambling for fun is indeed a safe choice, but not everyone can do it. There are times when they are still greedy for chasing wins after earning more than their initial funds and that can be detrimental without them realizing it. The need to remain alert when things don't go as desired and stop when things can no longer be controlled.
Well it's their own choice, no one force them to gamble if they can't control themselves. Even though it's bad for them, but at least they give contribution to other people because they enrich the casino, it makes the owner able to pay salary for the employees and they will pay tax to the government.

So, it doesn't looks really bad right? Cheesy

Gamblers all over the world enrich the casino to take care of the business and pay for tax and employees as you said. But that doesn't mean that the players shouldn't mind being careful about spending their money. Wagering one's salary on casino drastically takes down the happiness of the gambler, when he losses a lot. Hence, a salary earner despite enjoying his gambling habit, needs to be mindful of his money and the ways he spends it on casinos. As things could get wrong on his side, while the casino improves in their business.
868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: February 20, 2024, 04:49:34 PM
Yeah, never a good idea for both parents to engage in gambling, as no doubt, this could have a very bad negative impact on the children going while they are growing up to become teenagers, and teenagers into adults, the children could pick that up from their parents and that could turn the entire family into a den of chaos and confusion.

If the two parents are gamblers, then you should expect nothing from the child than being a chronic and addicted gambler, the son of a lion will surely roar like a lion, he will take much of gambling from his parents, but i wonder how they could both manage the home in bringing the children and having resource for their daily needs when they both gambles, can they even afford to make earnings? i doubt, we should leave a good example for our children to take and not care less about what our actions might put in them to become what they may never thought or imagine in life.

Cooperation is key in this type of family, where both spouses are gamblers. Not all will end up becoming compulsive, if they work alongside each other and caution one another, they can be responsible gamblers. I know that it's quite a tough one, if one of them gets addicted. And it'll be almost impossible for the kids not to find out about their parent's engagement into gambling. Especially when they discuss about their wins and losses. To be honest, the family can be run without having some financial challenges, if the parents set aside some funds for gambling, alone. However, isn't it better for both to be gamblers than one person, that hides it from the family and runs dry the finances of the home. No one is the right person to quit, instead both should end it and focus on training their kids. Because someday the kids will become gamblers, one way or another. Even if the parents are responsible players, the kids may not.
869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When I'm emotional, I LOSS! on: February 20, 2024, 04:31:53 PM
You know what after win big and then slap by huge loss I tend to go all in or double it like you have said earlier I don't know why it just automatically happened to me. hahahhahaha when I lose it all I just inhale exhale and tried to calm down and close the site, but when I win after do all in I just inhale exhale close the site and laugh a little bit.

Tho it is a bad habit but as long you stay inline with your budget you probably fine doing it.

You must be the exception to this rule, as being emotionally driven when betting and staying within the budget is far from the norm. To the OP asking for advice I would tell him to stop betting. If he has such problems controlling himself and keeps losing he's not going to discover a trick that will allow him to bet a little and still control himself. His case is either continue in the same vein, probably getting worse and losing too much over time, or quit for good. I'm clear about which I would choose, also bearing in mind that it's not going to be an easy thing to do.

The best thing as you mentioned, is for Op to stop gambling for a while. This type of trouble can be a pain, but he can achieve this by avoiding any means of gambling. If he's an online gambler, staying clear from his machines or gadgets can be helpful. This sounds easy, but I'm lying, the process is quite difficult. He's getting into addiction and that's what causes chasing of losses and increase the rate at which he keeps losing money. I've never been in such a situation in a long time, but he needs to get a companion, a friend who doesn't gamble to help him with this, as he may not handle this alone.
870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The person who can’t control emotions in gambling will never earn money from it on: February 20, 2024, 04:04:36 PM
I think it requires some extra effort to master this strategy, but it has a good effect on the gambler. Being able to redirect the negative emotions to something positive in the real life. Yeah, as humans the wrong emotions can accumulate depending on the results of the game. But in a situation whereby the gambler is able to avoid the negative emotions in the first instance, he wouldn't bother about possessing this skill you mentioned. All he'd need will be the stage 2, going for vacations and reaching out to distant relatives. That's a fine way of reviving the emotions of the gambler to think normally and mingle with non-gamblers. As gamblers after having a stressful session, one needs to cool off his brain and have a rethink on the next gambling session.
The only problem is that in practice this doesn’t always work out either. Some players begin to withdraw into themselves and do not want to talk about it, because they understand that in their eyes he will look like a complete loser, some also think that if they tell the truth, their wife will leave them or cut off all ties with him. Therefore, in general, this is a difficult issue, but this does not mean that you should not try to start communication. I just think that keeping silent about the problem only makes it worse. Despite all this, it would be very difficult for me to tell my relatives about this, thoughts about it would plunge me into complete depression, I hope that some people manage this easier than me.

That wouldn't help, it's also a level of gambling addiction, where the gambler tends to hide the problem from loved ones. Yes, the whole process is not done by purpose. The gambler doesn't realize he's hiding his troubles, he thinks he can take care of himself, thereby causing himself more harm. For instance, the things you pointed out, loved ones most often would blame the addict for his gambling trouble. And the addict doesn't want to end up in such a state, where he'd have to lose his wife, after sharing his problem. However, opening up is better than keeping shut, because at last the addict's wife will definitely figure out that his husband is undergoing serious emotional pains. One can't hide the truth forever; it'll always show on the person's face. Where hiding the problem works is, if the gambler lives alone. He can claim to be fine in the midst of friends and family. A person with a spouse can't hide for long, before his wife begin to find out the pains of the husband. Meeting a therapist works just fine and could improve the emotional state of the gambler to get positive, and he'd get over the pains gradually.
871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: February 20, 2024, 03:45:18 PM
However, behavior in gambling is a different matter where a gambler behaves differently when he loses, and rejoices when he wins. Of course, you will always be in a bad mood when you lose gambling but when you win gambling you will be in a good mood, and you will be happy. Patience is the most important thing in gambling because most of the time people lose, very few people win the bet, and they are always in a high mood. But when I won the first gamble I was very happy and when I lost later I felt very bad even though I was very emotional at that time. However, individuals who have become addicted to gambling become more emotional and their behavior worsens when they lose rather than win. An addicted player definitely has a lot of mood swings and a lot of anger inside him and when he loses his behavior changes even more.
In the long run, gambling is a revolution that completely changes personality, a person with a gentle appearance can still turn into a stubborn and aggressive person, it feels like they have held on to too many inhibitions and this is a cover for expressing their resentments. Behavior in gambling is just a contrast between causes, desires and actual results, any outcome pushes the gambler to strange and corresponding emotions, hunger and eating for satisfaction, it's like gambling to regain the initial emotional balance, but once you lose your balance, you won't be able to find the balance again

Gamblers can switch from their best behavior to a worst behavior, when the losses are getting too many. The game is a type that would definitely make gamblers feel the pain of losing their money. But in situations where the gambler is no longer comfortable with his loved ones, he should look into visiting a therapist. As it's a sign of addiction. Problem gambling starts with too many symptoms and behavioral change. When neglected can escalate to a more difficult stage where it gets harder for the person to revive to his normal behavior. Consistent losses increase the problem, and the player won't stop at his first loss, instead the game continues till he exhausts his money, then the anger skyrockets. What could make anybody happy can swing the mood of the gambler. Hence, as gambler we all need to change the mode of our games, once the results are no longer favorable, the gambler can decide to reduce the amount of money he wagers and focus on observing the game.
872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a generous gamblers on: February 19, 2024, 06:07:56 PM
We need to consider different viewpoints on this matter. Each gambler has their own way of handling winnings, so it's not fair to assume that professional gamblers are less generous without thorough analysis.There's no reason why a gambler wouldn't spend some of their winnings, although everyone has different expenses to consider. While there's no guarantee of future big wins, it doesn't deter them from spending.

Each gambler prioritizes their own thoughts on this matter. A generous and responsible gambler will have numerous ideas about how to use their winnings.
agree with your opinion, we should not assume negatively about other gamblers who do not share their winnings with friends, they have considerations about using winning funds for priority needs and they have also lost a lot of funds from each previous bet, but at least some of the winning bets are used to treat friends for shopping at cafes and restaurants, some of the other betting winnings are used as savings as capital for the next gambling and if they get a high win it will be used for future savings. So everyone has different expenses depending on their priority needs and it is better for them not to be too generous in spending funds on unimportant expenses.

Everyone has differences in giving and gamblers are not exempted. They are people who can't go a day without giving to people, regardless of whether they won money or not. It differs, and whenever they win the money goes to kindness, and sharing gifts with loved ones. That doesn't mean it's an obligation, anybody can decide not to give when they have a big win. It's their game, and they have to plan for the future not to run out of bank roll. Personally, sometimes I go extravagant with my wins, other times, I'd get frugal. We all have our purpose of doing whatever we wish to do, whether to give or not, at a specific time.
873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The person who can’t control emotions in gambling will never earn money from it on: February 19, 2024, 05:54:43 PM
I think it requires some extra effort to master this strategy, but it has a good effect on the gambler. Being able to redirect the negative emotions to something positive in the real life. Yeah, as humans the wrong emotions can accumulate depending on the results of the game. But in a situation whereby the gambler is able to avoid the negative emotions in the first instance, he wouldn't bother about possessing this skill you mentioned. All he'd need will be the stage 2, going for vacations and reaching out to distant relatives. That's a fine way of reviving the emotions of the gambler to think normally and mingle with non-gamblers. As gamblers after having a stressful session, one needs to cool off his brain and have a rethink on the next gambling session.

On point! it takes a lot of time and effort to finally master that kind of controlling emotion strategy and it's not easy as we think, Sometimes, no matter how hard we try to follow the rules that we've set on ourself, there is another side of our mind that convinces us to do something we are forced to avoid. It's hard to explain this experience, but as you mentioned, it can help us to think about whether we can turn negative emotions into positive ways. Negative emotions are valid and should not be invalidated, but we should know how to manage them.

Gamblers have different understanding of the game, and that's what determines the uniqueness in the strategies that every gambler implements while gambling. However, staying true to the strategy can be hard, but with strong control the gambler will be successful in whatever strategy he's holding on to. Yes, distractions, can occur and the gambler wouldn't mind going against his own strategy, but it's quite detrimental to the experience of the gambler. Because he could become a victim of what Op is talking about. When setting a strategy, the player is expected to observe closely the method and how it works in yielding him profits. Switching from one method or strategy to another, only worsens the gambling process for the gambler. And doesn't allow the gambler to understand his gambling process. Whenever, however a gambler wants to feel or act in his gambling session, controlling it, makes him avoid lots of problem gambling that could emerge from excessive of the strategy.
874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What You will do in this situation? on: February 19, 2024, 05:45:24 PM
As you guys don't know each other properly so it won't be wise to start conversation with him directly about his gambling. He may feel uncomfortable when a stranger randomly start advising him! And if a person can go to casino for playing slot machines, then i assume he already have knowledge about sport betting too. So he may play slot machines for fun even it is also possible that, he isn't regular in gambling.you still don't have the actual information at all. So whatever you can do, just frankly start talking with him if you are excited enough. And then you may ask him about his opinion about gambling and if he does gambling or not. Thus you can discuss with him and let him know about your opinion, rather than advising him directly

Looking at the continuation of the Op's response, it sounds like they're beginning to be friends, and discussing more on gambling related matters. If they could work together that wouldn't be much problem. Talking frankly with the player is the right thing, so that he wouldn't pick up some argument. Gambling is a matter of choice, and he's quite okay with his slot games, despite being a sport man. I don't think any of the is doing the wrong thing, but Op shouldn't cross his boundaries.

875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Escape Debt with Gambling: A Dangerous Cycle on: February 19, 2024, 05:38:31 PM
Those pressures only make the gambler to end up in pains, like the person in Op's story. Those thoughts are quite not good for anyone, especially in things as gambling. I've seen many other gamblers who end up being in a severe sickness for not being able to meet up with their debts, accumulated for the sake of gambling. However, gambling is a game for players who care about being financially stable, not for people who want to terminate their existing financial status for a wealth which they are foreseeing. When the debt is too much to clear, the person ends up depressed and get more addicted into gambling hoping that the wins appear someday.

Yes because it is a fact that many gamblers end up stressed or depressed due to not being able to withstand all the tension and pressure in a problematic situation, the idea of paying off debt by gambling is a very careless or even stupid mindset and idea, because gambling is not a cure for financial problems, but rather an activity that provides nothing more than "odds" which means "the possibility" of getting something but without having any certainty to actually guarantee you can win at the end of the session. In the end, it is clear that overcoming financial problems with gambling will actually make someone worse or get into debt, or simply gambling can give you more problems. We must really have the right understanding about gambling, do not get the wrong understanding because it can be fatal in the end. So the point is not to let the chance of winning in gambling make you conclude that gambling can solve financial problems or can make you rich instantly, NO, that's a dangerous mindset, the uncertainty in the results at the end of the session will frustrate all your plans and will make you regret it.

Those thoughts are from gamblers who don't have the main orientation needed before venturing into their gambling journey. Most newbies ended up gamblers because a friend made some wins through gambling. I was once in that shoe, luckily, it didn't last for a long time till I retraced my ways. Gambling has no certain method of winning, hence, nobody is advised to take it to the level of borrowing money to wager in casino. The player if he wins, will still return the money back to the loan shark. Such things level up the stress of the gambler, and some still go ahead to gamble more, to be able to earn a sustainable amount that'll cover for both the debt and settle their financial responsibilities. Gamblers need to follow a nice method that'll remove those embarrassing mindsets from their memory and focus on being a good gambler that wagers to learn and earn when the time comes.
876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: February 19, 2024, 05:30:27 PM
Yes, I know 1% is not a nominal amount which must be absolute. The most important thing is that they are able to set a nominal limit that is as small as possible from their entire salary and that will not be a problem even though they may enjoy more than 1%. At least they have considered the risk of losing it and that the most important thing is that it doesn't disrupt their financial condition in the future. But they can also be disciplined and set a budget that suits the existing problems and stop when the specified limits are exhausted.

Each person faces different situations, some use more than 1%, some use only 1%, this is not a prohibition as long as they are able to experience gambling losses with 1%, it may not be too risky, but if it is more than that it will pose a risk to the user. Therefore, use your expenses wisely, don't let your finances become unstable and experience problems just because of gambling.

It depends on the income of the gambler, and what consumes his funds the most. Every gambler has other utilities that takes up their funds, although gambling seems to take the most for many income earning gamblers. The need to set the limit is to stay on a positive side of income management. Salaries are meant for running the company as an employee, purchasing of gas, food, clothes etc., helps in building the confidence of the worker while in field. Hence, if a gambler exhausts his funds on gambling alone, he wouldn't perform like other employees in the company, thereby affecting his productivity.

I've experienced a lot of gamblers complaining about wagering almost all their income in one gambling session. Such attitude doesn't sound good even to the gambler. Setting aside, few amount of money for gambling once the income arrives, lets the gambler to do the right expenses, while taking care of his family, which should be his main priority. Gambling is for fun and shouldn't be seen as a business or a side. That means that it's not meant to be seen as the first priority in terms of utilities, for a salary earner.



877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Escape Debt with Gambling: A Dangerous Cycle on: February 19, 2024, 11:21:44 AM
Escaping dept with the hope to win gamble is disastrous and might leed to a big problems because you don't have the power on your own to make it win and when they lose you have pay back the dept you are in. You rather pay the little you have than to gamble with it while thinking to win when you gamble. As you manage to win you the money you won might not be able to pay for the dept and this situation might put you on a bigger dept which means you can not be able to home out easily. Gamble to pay dept will only make you gamble on pressure as your mind won't be settled to gamble with mind free.

Those pressures only make the gambler to end up in pains, like the person in Op's story. Those thoughts are quite not good for anyone, especially in things as gambling. I've seen many other gamblers who end up being in a severe sickness for not being able to meet up with their debts, accumulated for the sake of gambling. However, gambling is a game for players who care about being financially stable, not for people who want to terminate their existing financial status for a wealth which they are foreseeing. When the debt is too much to clear, the person ends up depressed and get more addicted into gambling hoping that the wins appear someday.
878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend? on: February 19, 2024, 11:13:14 AM
Not really, why would I choose to quit something that I'm in complete control of for the sake of a friend? If this friend is a close one and they're on a deathbed and they wish for me to quit gambling, I might do so for their memory and promise but if they're a friend that's not that close then it's not really a good idea to do so because you're going to end up being a dog to them, doing whatever they tell you to do, that doesn't sit right with me and I think that the only time that a valid reason that a person can do this to someone is when they're really concerned that the person is addicted and this can be a way for them to make that person consider quitting to cure the addiction.

It's fine not to be loyal to anybody on earth, but sometimes the health of people we care for can be a reason why we should respect them and listen to their request. However, in the context of the story, it looks like a voluntary request from the friends of the gambler, whether they should stop for the sake of the addict. He never asked them to do so, they think that stopping could make him have a rethink, since he wouldn't find anyone to gamble with, as they're his gambling mates. Those things if it will work can be a memorable thing to do for a friend's safety, Healthwise. If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.
879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: February 19, 2024, 11:04:31 AM

Being responsible also will helps you to maintain your characteristic like both of you said losing control can ends up losing your money and with that concept chances that you'll have a change  in emotion will take place, though some gamblers can still dictate what is needed  and can act normally while  most of those who can't control their emotions have a difficulty to accept their failures and mistake that leads them to lose their money.

The chance that you will see emotional swings with those types of gambler,  they have a hard time accepting and admitting  that it was their fault that they lose when playing.

What you have just said is very true, responsible behavior also has a positive side in controlling ourselves when we gamble. By being responsible, a gambler tries to behave well and not be hasty in making every decision and not only that, by behaving responsibly the gambler plays with full control. good and can limit the amount of betting and when it is time to stop gambling. Therefore, every gambler has a responsibility to prevent addiction resulting from excessive gambling.
Yes, that's right, without responsible behavior in gambling, sometimes someone cannot accept the defeat they experience and is carried away by emotional outbursts, gamblers experience unstable changes in behavior.

Behavioral change moves along with pains. When a gambler is in pains of losing his money, he'd easily get aggressive towards his loved ones. The right way to solve such problem is by being very attentive to our mood, knowing when to stop after a win or lose, is quite important. Many feel this way after winning big and end up losing the whole money again. The human brain reacts to such experience, and the gambler will be so sad on the face. Even, in the physical casino, gamblers wear frowned face out of the vicinity, after losing lots of money. Wagering limited amount of money helps the gambler to stay away from this type of behavior. At least being in love with the kids and having a good chat with them is quite very crucial as a father. Gambling shouldn't be the reason why a family should be in violence. In a nutshell, as you both said, accepting responsibility helps a gambler to be focused and know the actual moment to end his gambling session. Those who fail to accept the responsibility, end up chasing losses, thinking that they are up against the house, trying to win the house.
880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The person who can’t control emotions in gambling will never earn money from it on: February 19, 2024, 10:52:09 AM
Being able to get hold of the emotions helps the gambler to be in charge of his decisions. When the emotions are not in order, the gambler only gambles to feed his fantasies of winning big and becoming made through gambling. Emotions can be filled with thoughts that won't help the gambler to make good decisions. If a gambler is only gambling without being conscious of his emotions, he'd definitely be at risk. Gambling has to do with the emotions, that's why it hurts most of the times, when we lose money. Not caring for the pains or feeling no remorse about how money is being lost while gambling, can be a problem in the life of a gambler. However, having a stable emotion is quite great and sound for a gambler, but doesn't make any difference in the way the gambler plays or wins his games. I think it's a safety measure for the gambler to save his funds.
There is a downside to this, if the player constantly restrains his emotions, they can have a cumulative effect, something like a snow globe. Sooner or later it needs to be released somewhere, because no person can keep everything to himself, it’s not natural. I have seen many examples of successful players, and I noticed that they are not robots, but real people, and even they accumulate negative emotions during the game, but they do not throw them out at the gaming tables, but in life, I mean in a positive sense. This mainly involves sports such as basketball or the gym. Stage 2 is high moral recovery such as family vacations and travel. This allows them to purify themselves in a moral sense. The main thing that I emphasized to myself is that they simply direct these flows in the right direction. Many emotional and inexperienced players should have tried this experience for themselves.

I think it requires some extra effort to master this strategy, but it has a good effect on the gambler. Being able to redirect the negative emotions to something positive in the real life. Yeah, as humans the wrong emotions can accumulate depending on the results of the game. But in a situation whereby the gambler is able to avoid the negative emotions in the first instance, he wouldn't bother about possessing this skill you mentioned. All he'd need will be the stage 2, going for vacations and reaching out to distant relatives. That's a fine way of reviving the emotions of the gambler to think normally and mingle with non-gamblers. As gamblers after having a stressful session, one needs to cool off his brain and have a rethink on the next gambling session.
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