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February 16, 2024, 10:45:10 PM
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A true friend is only there by our side when he knows he needs to remind you if he sees that things are not going well with us. And that thing is to give and make us feel truly blessed.

A friend cannot dictate to a friend who is also close to him, but only to feel true concern for a friend who is considered a friend. So we still have the final decision to make if we follow the advice of a friend of ours.

It's true, apart from your family, no one will sympathize with you but your friends. Your friend will wake you up to the truth, he is the only one who will tell you what you really feel and what is happening to you, your friend is also the only one who will tell you that what you are doing is bad. So if you have a friend like this, he's just concerned about you, don't hurt him because it's like he's treating you like a brother. It's good to have a friend like this. Don't leave or avoid this kind of friend because they are the only ones who really care about you.

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February 16, 2024, 11:06:35 PM
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Personally, ife quitting guarantees that the friend will effectively drop his gambling addiction and push for rehabilitation and recovery then I’m all for it. Just puzzled over the idea of how me quitting could help the addicted friend to recover from gambling addiction when at this point he needs less of a support and more of real assistance from professionals in this field. That means him getting the treatment he needs and deserves is even more important than the moral support that us quitting would contribute into his situation. If anything I feel like our quitting to the gambling schedules that we do on a weekly basis (based on your story) is less of a help to your friend who’s addicted to gambling and more of a way to fool ourselves into thinking that we’re absolved of the guilt of letting in our friend into the gambling world.

So yeah, I can see the plan’s success in theory but rarely do we have friends that are ideal as what we envision in our studies so to account for the margin of reality.

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February 16, 2024, 11:12:06 PM
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Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are.  Cheesy
Those are some important points about habits, addiction, and the role of friends in addressing gambling issues. Indeed, habits can easily become ingrained in our daily routines, and when those habits involve excessive spending and a focus on activities like gambling, it can escalate into addiction. Impulsive spending, especially in the context of gambling where the outcomes can be financially devastating, is a red flag that requires careful consideration.

The idea of quitting gambling for the sake of a friend is actually a good situation to have more motive quiting gambling, because gambling would be less joy when the one you share joy in gambling is not there anymore. True friends often look out for each other's well-being and may offer support and encouragement to address harmful behaviors like gambling addiction. It needs to be mindful of the impact of gambling on life.

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February 16, 2024, 11:48:07 PM
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So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
Gambling addiction doesn't just occur suddenly and recently. It happens over a period of time - days, months, years, decades. It process is just like a butterfly metamorphosing.
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This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.
The best way to get their friend help is not for them to quit gambling because they would not be doing it of their freewill and they going to regret it later. Rather going with their friend to a gamblers meeting. Getting them the professional help that they need and funding it as best as they can.

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February 17, 2024, 10:57:07 AM
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The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.
A true friend will help friends who have problems and if a friend has a gambling addiction, a true friend will come to his aid and try to help cure his gambling addiction even though it is difficult. A true friend will not leave his friend alone to experience gambling addiction because those who are addicted to gambling really need friends to share it with. Maybe there should be other help apart from real friends to help cure his gambling addiction so that the addict knows that he is not alone in struggling to cure his gambling addiction. But it all depends on the gambling addict to be able to open himself to the presence of other people who want to help him cure his gambling addiction.

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February 17, 2024, 04:56:40 PM
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Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are.  Cheesy
Those are some important points about habits, addiction, and the role of friends in addressing gambling issues. Indeed, habits can easily become ingrained in our daily routines, and when those habits involve excessive spending and a focus on activities like gambling, it can escalate into addiction. Impulsive spending, especially in the context of gambling where the outcomes can be financially devastating, is a red flag that requires careful consideration.

The idea of quitting gambling for the sake of a friend is actually a good situation to have more motive quiting gambling, because gambling would be less joy when the one you share joy in gambling is not there anymore. True friends often look out for each other's well-being and may offer support and encouragement to address harmful behaviors like gambling addiction. It needs to be mindful of the impact of gambling on life.
I understand your behaviors and addiction perspective. You can get into a routine where gambling is just part of the day. However, your warning about impulsive spending touched home. It a wake-up call that things are falling apart.

What about quitting gambling because a friend does? Yes, solid. It shows how much we affect each other. Though rare, these friendships are vital. They reflect our behaviors and show the truth we neglect. Without a friend to share the excitement, quitting gambling may be the push needed to reassess priorities. True friendship is about wanting the best for one other, not just gambling highs.

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February 17, 2024, 05:24:58 PM
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We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .

The best thing that you can do in this situation is always to keep your doors open whenever your friend needs it.

As someone who has personally experienced gambling addiction, it will take more than professional help for the addicted person to get help. The most essential and crucial step towards recovery is when they admit to themselves that they are addicted and they decide to change for the better. Without these two (2) factors, professional help may be inefficient as they are most likely to experience recurrence from their habits.

Always keep your doors open when your friend reaches out to you. If they decide to change and to commit in quitting, give your 101% support. Sometimes, these friends already know what to do but they just lack the courage to initiate it. Show them that commitment that you also want to help them and they will definitely be one step closer to recovery.
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February 17, 2024, 05:28:11 PM
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The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.
A true friend will help friends who have problems and if a friend has a gambling addiction, a true friend will come to his aid and try to help cure his gambling addiction even though it is difficult. A true friend will not leave his friend alone to experience gambling addiction because those who are addicted to gambling really need friends to share it with. Maybe there should be other help apart from real friends to help cure his gambling addiction so that the addict knows that he is not alone in struggling to cure his gambling addiction. But it all depends on the gambling addict to be able to open himself to the presence of other people who want to help him cure his gambling addiction.
Being present isn't enough; action is. When a friend is struggling, you don't just listen. Your hands get soiled. Intervention? Yes. Assistance for professionals? Double yes. It's about directing them to resources that matter, not babysitting them. Surprise: They're not the only ones who must open up. We must make them feel safe. Trust, accountability, and occasional tough love. Yes, they must recover, but our involvement is important. We're reality checkers and supporters, not simply spectators

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February 17, 2024, 05:37:40 PM
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We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.
Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .
Whoever is or will take or handle the healing of the addict's problem, still need to apply some patience and kindness. The healing as usual takes lots of time. However, if he tries to help his friend without the assistance of a therapist. He could be getting the whole process so wrong. Due to the fact that the professionals have some simple ways, known by few people, of recovering the thoughts and brains of the addicted person. A friend can get aggressive, in as much as being angry of his addicted friend not responding or listening to their advice. These people detest advice like a plague. What they are doing is right, in their jurisdiction. Hence, it's not meant to be the complete duty of the addict's friend to heal him, they'll also need help from a therapist. What is most important is that the addict doesn't get neglected or being left behind.

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February 17, 2024, 07:23:31 PM
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Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.

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February 17, 2024, 11:49:47 PM
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Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .
Those who are gambling tried to stop gambling a lot of time and all of the time they became successful for a little time. After a short period of time they start again upon the fund collection.

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February 17, 2024, 11:56:55 PM
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Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.

Some people trust the friendship,but some friends doesn’t help you when you get into big risk.The reason behind the friendship was only for their benefit to them,they use you for all their money needs.If you say your friends,only the true friends get happy for you.But many friends get unhappy and try to get the loan from you.Because they come to know about your winning money.Being a gambler,I will accept the words of friend like I had mentioned.If the true friends ask me quit,surely I do that at the addictions time.Because we know to whom we need to give importance.Most of the gambling addicted people get away from gambling by the words of their own mother.
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February 18, 2024, 02:38:15 AM
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So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
Gambling addiction doesn't just occur suddenly and recently. It happens over a period of time - days, months, years, decades. It process is just like a butterfly metamorphosing.
True, but it happens for sure and of course no one will ever be able to realize that he has entered condition or initial phase of gambling addiction.
They indirectly increase their gambling intensity and over time it becomes habit that cannot be abandoned or stopped.
They will realize when they have experienced destruction or experienced various serious problems, but this awareness is too late because everything has already happened.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.
The best way to get their friend help is not for them to quit gambling because they would not be doing it of their freewill and they going to regret it later. Rather going with their friend to a gamblers meeting. Getting them the professional help that they need and funding it as best as they can.
Everything will depend on how react to it, if that the best then just do it and if not immediately stop and do what best.
Only each individual can feel the impact of each decision, so the good and bad of each activity also depends on how person has mindset in making decisions.
This is not about professional help but how he moves forward towards much better direction for the future.

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Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.

Some people trust the friendship,but some friends doesn’t help you when you get into big risk.The reason behind the friendship was only for their benefit to them,they use you for all their money needs.If you say your friends,only the true friends get happy for you.But many friends get unhappy and try to get the loan from you.Because they come to know about your winning money.Being a gambler,I will accept the words of friend like I had mentioned.If the true friends ask me quit,surely I do that at the addictions time.Because we know to whom we need to give importance.Most of the gambling addicted people get away from gambling by the words of their own mother.
There are really indeed 2 types of friends on which to those friends who are really just that present on the time that you do have money or on a good situation and into those friends that do ran away or doesnt really care about someone on the time that you are on such big trouble or problem on which it do really sucks on having a friend just like that but well you would really be able to prove out on whose those true friends and who are the ones who are really just that good on the time that you are doing good. When it comes on doing gambling then it isnt really that much of an issue or something that will really be that a problem if you are really just that responsible on what you are doing.If you are someone whose really that mindful and careful then there would be no problems
and as a friend who had someone a friend falls into addiction then suggestion and advises should really be given out.

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Being present isn't enough; action is. When a friend is struggling, you don't just listen. Your hands get soiled. Intervention? Yes. Assistance for professionals? Double yes. It's about directing them to resources that matter, not babysitting them. Surprise: They're not the only ones who must open up. We must make them feel safe. Trust, accountability, and occasional tough love. Yes, they must recover, but our involvement is important. We're reality checkers and supporters, not simply spectators
The presence and help of friends in trouble is very necessary because it can make them feel that they are not alone in solving their problems. They will be able to rise from their downturn because there is support from other friends who can continue to accompany them and are always there to help them solve their problems. Taking them to a professional must be done so that they can get direction from a professional and know what they have to do. With all the support they get from their family and friends, they can be enthusiastic again and solve their problems well so they can have a normal life again. Even though he needs time to heal himself, it won't be felt because they are accompanied by people who care about them.

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February 18, 2024, 07:51:30 AM
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Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.
I know the importance of friendship, but even as close as I am to my friends, they don't know my gambling condition, and I have a reason for that. They won't even bother me that much because I always gamble when I am home, and some of the things I have acquired are through gambling, so there are pieces of evidence that show that I am doing well in gambling, even though there is a record of gambling. Due to work, we hardly see each other, so they don't even know what I do or not. And what if I gamble? What is my friend's business with my gambling condition? Since I don't ask them for money, I tell them to stay off such topics, and I will be offended if they are repeated. If something I enjoy and make money from is repeated and you ask me to stop it, it won't work. In my view, you cannot stop people from doing what they love, and the way things are should be left the way they are.

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February 18, 2024, 07:57:17 AM
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Not really, why would I choose to quit something that I'm in complete control of for the sake of a friend? If this friend is a close one and they're on a deathbed and they wish for me to quit gambling, I might do so for their memory and promise but if they're a friend that's not that close then it's not really a good idea to do so because you're going to end up being a dog to them, doing whatever they tell you to do, that doesn't sit right with me and I think that the only time that a valid reason that a person can do this to someone is when they're really concerned that the person is addicted and this can be a way for them to make that person consider quitting to cure the addiction.



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February 18, 2024, 08:04:03 AM
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Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least. 
I have never seen directly anyone who wants to stop gambling because of a friend, although maybe something like that has happened out there, but I have never seen it directly. I once saw a friend stop gambling because of his wife and children because of the demands placed on them so he decided to stop even though at first it seemed so difficult because of the addiction. Friends and family show greater encouragement to stop gambling because perhaps they understand our condition better.

Unfortunately not everyone can be aware of the encouragement of those closest to them and there are even people who have to separate from their families because of their gambling addiction. For me, it doesn't matter if someone is involved in gambling as long as they can handle the gambling responsibly, both regarding the finances they use to gamble and the specific time they spend playing.

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Well, it happens that friends are one thing and family is another, it is obvious that your friend stopped playing for his family, his family is much more valuable than a game in a casino, and whoever puts the game above them Well, I think he is crazy, or something is missing in his mind, because that is something that should not even be thought about, I could think that when a person starts to see that it is the most imprint they can make in their life according to the game and to other actions, well you have to be very clear about what you want, because if you are a person who does not think about the day to day and live as everything happens without thinking about your future or the things you can do, well I think that is an empty person, but when there are many things like friendship, love for your family, that already weighs a lot, it is something that cannot be done without regret, but since the issue is for your friend, what is the right thing to do is sacrifice ?

I think that something difficult not to want to do is like stopping eating, or stopping doing a basic activity, but if I see that my abstention can help a person, why not do it? and play in the casino just when that friend is not online or do it differently in a physical casino or something, but if you have to have a little patience, addiction is a very serious problem, it is something that I don't know how to classify I think I would have to say that it is one of the most difficult things a human being can suffer.

So I start from something, we shouldn't be selfish people, if a friend needs us, what's the point of stopping playing for a while? I believe that divine blessings come after a very good action, and what it feels like when you do something good for someone is a great feeling, I believe that that is what we should always consider, and thus be able to have better things so that they can be happier the people.

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February 19, 2024, 10:25:21 AM
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I think that something difficult not to want to do is like stopping eating, or stopping doing a basic activity, but if I see that my abstention can help a person, why not do it? and play in the casino just when that friend is not online or do it differently in a physical casino or something, but if you have to have a little patience, addiction is a very serious problem, it is something that I don't know how to classify I think I would have to say that it is one of the most difficult things a human being can suffer.

So I start from something, we shouldn't be selfish people, if a friend needs us, what's the point of stopping playing for a while? I believe that divine blessings come after a very good action, and what it feels like when you do something good for someone is a great feeling, I believe that that is what we should always consider, and thus be able to have better things so that they can be happier the people.
If you can do it it will be much better because you can help one person, but making active gamblers aware is not easy because they need greater attention and it will be much easier for their closest family to do it. Even if you are a friend, you can also help heal. Recovering addicted people must be in a special place because there they will be trained psychologically so that they no longer have hallucinations of getting money from gambling. Without involving smart people regarding psychology, it will be very difficult to cure them because training the awareness of active gamblers is not easy because they have high hallucinations about games to make money.

If someone is in need and you are able to do it, there is no problem helping a friend who is addicted to gambling and I am not saying that you cannot help cure a friend. But rather the priority of the person who is more important in curing them is their immediate family. If we are talking about decisions, it might be a little more difficult because hoping for approval is a noble act and it is very difficult to make the discussion wider.

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