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861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 02, 2023, 09:53:08 PM
I still think that Al-Nassr needs to think about their defense. Look at the team and look at the defense. To make it understand better, the eleven there is worth 133 million right now, and I would argue some of them worth even more, but valued less. But 4 players at the defense and goalkeeper combined worths 7 million of it. So they have 7 players who worth 126 million, and 4 players that worth 7 million. That is a very very bad transfer method, they need to get a lot better players there.

Especially when you consider their two main center backs worth just 2 million dollars combined, you realize that they do not have any defense at all. This can't be good for them, the results will still be not that great if they keep this up.

Al Nassr bought all the attacking players and didnt buy any defenders and that why they conceded so many goals against bigger teams from europe. They like buying big names and there arent many big defenders names that can bring popularity to the league so thats why they focus on attack and midfield
it seems that al nassr still has problems with FIFA because they have not settled their debt to Leicester so that al nassr is prohibited from adding players or registering new players by FIFA.

Al Nassr is quite under the spotlight because they only focuses on buying attackers but there are rumors that Al Nassr has a long-term strategy for this, in the next transfer season they will add midfielders and other good defenders to strengthen Al Nassr's defense (for now they are more focused on improving front line first)
862  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you will never become rich on: August 02, 2023, 09:33:44 PM
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Buying liabilities,  things that doesn't have value five years from now.  Many save but even when money is saved,  it is done to spend and not to invest and the only way to become rich is to invest and not by savings.  So , invest in assets and not liabilities.
very true in some areas, breaking away from dependence on family is very difficult, you will be labeled as a disobedient person if you are unable to help your sibling who is in trouble, even though you yourself are in need of help, being independent is really better.

apart from that there are some people who when they get a lot of money they immediately buy the latest car or smartphone, to be honest both of them are liability products and in the next few years it is possible that the expensive purchased goods will become worthless, investing is something that is very mandatory in many people do today.
863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Healthy mindset to save earnings from gambling on: August 01, 2023, 11:00:21 PM
Usually, people who win in gambling but not able to cash out or save their winnings and I think this has something to do with a Healthy mindset.
If you do not have the intention to save the wealth, you will lose all your winnings by risking them again in another gambling bet.

Only a mentally strong person who has control over emotions and have money management skills would be the real winner here and will become rich eventually.
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i think there is nothing to do between lottery players with good thinking skills because lottery is a game that purely relies on luck 100% but for other gambling games such as slots, sports betting or skill gambling it does require good thinking skills so that the losses you can get don't drastically damage your finances. 

in this world people who are really rich are created because of their good minds, even those who are rich from inheritance are required to have good financial management skills to maintain their wealth.  Likewise when gambling, people who win are those who have the ability to think and control their emotions well.
864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Irresponsible behavior at the Las Vegas Casino on: August 01, 2023, 10:34:01 PM
A man run naked in a Las Vegas casino (Linq Casino) and jumped on the poker table and started to dance. He was arrested instantly by the security, however his family says that he was drunk and therefore he did such type of act.

More details can be read here Naked Gyrating Guy Arrested at Harrah’s Las Vegas Was Drugged, Family Claims

The point here is why gamblers do such shameless acts and what the rules of the casino suggest the penality for these acts. Do you think the gambler did it purposefully perhaps to become popular in the headlines  Huh
it is unlikely for someone who is drunk to do something ridiculous like that, surely that person is stressed because of losing gambling or other problems and when he wants to vent his frustration at the casino, he becomes out of control for various reasons and maybe he is also under the influence of drugs or the like.  Casinos should strictly enforce banning irresponsible gamblers from entering, but often times casinos always let these people play inside because it's obvious they are carrying money.
865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 31, 2023, 08:46:49 PM
By the way I am also not really sure Atletico Madrid can win La Liga title in season 2023-2024, but now squad of Atletico Madrid looks has improved and I think they still have a chance to get the title La Liga. Actually previous season Atletico Madrid they should be in the top second place, but at the early of that season they performance very bad and they lost a lot of points. Although I've also think same with you Barcelona can got the title of La Liga again, but the results maybe not always same like last season, I mean this league is quite competitive and we might see a new winner. Real Madrid maybe. Wink
hard enough for Atletico Madrid to get the La Liga trophy even though they successfully won over Man City in yesterday's friendly match, the match did not have high tension and man city seemed to play casually.  madrid and barcelona made a fairly large squad overhaul, so i'm more sure that either barcelona or madrid will most likely win the league this season again.

other news from barcelona, after dembele agreed to PSG it looks like they will make one of the 3 barcelona league players (fermin lopez) into the main team, i'm really interested in seeing how he played in the friendly match against madrid yesterday.
866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: July 31, 2023, 07:16:04 PM
Basically, if gambling is in the blood of those who gamble, it is very difficult to get out of it. A gambling addict can never stop gambling, just like a drug addict can never stop intoxicating for a day, same is the case with a gambler. Must control oneself while gambling so as not to become addicted to gambling. And if you can control yourself from this while gambling, then you can prevent yourself from becoming addicted to gambling in the future only if you do not harm yourself in the future by gambling.
Recently, I came up with the idea that addicted people need to watch videos from interviews with the same addicted people as they are more often. I saw a couple of these videos, where people talk about how they started playing (spontaneously) and how they sank to the bottom. It's really scary. They also tell how they live now, mostly with huge debts that they are trying to pay off.
In these videos they would recognize themselves, which could prevent them from playing out of control.
Educational videos from psychiatrists or personal experiences from gamblers who quit are actually very good for helping gambling addicts get rid of their habit, i took a few paragraphs from an article aimed at gambling addicts,

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Remember that quitting gambling addiction is a unique journey for each individual. The process of quitting addiction will not last overnight. Give yourself time and patience to face this challenge. besides that it is also important for you to recognize situations or emotions that trigger the desire to gamble, and find ways to deal with them in a healthier way.

The point is that stopping gambling is impossible IF the person does not have a great desire to stop gambling activities that have gone too far.  but if a gambling addict is able to recover from his addiction and become a responsible gambler, it is not impossible that he will become a professional gambler (good or bad depending on the person's choice)
867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 31, 2023, 06:51:59 PM
Mbappe has his sights set on Real Madrid and wouldn’t be motivated by the money to move over to play at the Saudi league even if it’s just for a season. Just cause he refused the almost unbelievable offer offered by the Saudis, that doesn’t mean he won’t be at some point be willing to play in the EPL.
I personally think he just doesn’t fancy the idea of playing in the Saudi league and I think he still wants to play competitive football which he won’t probably won’t get at the Saudi league.

Let’s just think for a second that with the Saudi league, somehow get Mbappé, it is going to be huge. There is going to be another flock of players going to the Saudi league. First of all we got to see the Ronaldo effect. This time we all have seen the Mbappé effect.

But anyway, I do not think that this is happening. He is certainly not going to go to Saudi league. Currently I do not see him going to the English Premier League. The only club in the English Premier League, which could have attracted him was Manchester City and they already have Erling Haaland. So for now, it is either PSG or Real Madrid.
i am quite amused to see that there is so much news about clubs from the EPL scrambling to bring in Mbappe (starting from Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City) especially man city which already has a great scorer "haaland"
last season haaland became the top scorer of the EPL and i saw the statistics between mbappe and haaland, in fact haaland is the best.

Apart from that, there is no need to raise speculation about Mbappe joining the Saudi League. He has explained to the media that he is not interested in the offer that was dropped by the Arab League club, especially the Al Hilal club, which made him a very large offer.

but if there is an EPL team that manages to get mbappe, i'm sure the money they spend will not be small.

868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 31, 2023, 06:41:45 PM
Currently Sadio Mane will soon undergo a medical test to join Al-Nassr, but it seems that Sadio Mane was quite disappointed while at Bayern Munich and according to sources he wants a different ending for the rest of his career. Sadio Mane also gave a few words that impressed us with his professionalism while at Bayern Munich and he wished all the best for all elements at the club. I think Sadio Mane just wants to peacefully leave Bayern Munich and doesn't want to complain too much about his current position. Maybe he was unlucky at Bayern Munich and if time could be turned back maybe he would never leave Liverpool.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1686052979642712065
from the start i also saw that Sadio Mane's arrival to Bayern was a mistake, if only he had stayed at Liverpool it would have been better.  While at Bayern, Mane's contribution was very low, with a transfer value that was quite high, Bayern looked like they were wasting money.  al nassr offered sizable money for bayern and also mane, so we are just waiting for official news of mane's move to al nassr.

bayern is still pursuing kane, they are very sure kane is the most suitable figure as a center forward, but until now it is reported that kane is still not interested in bayern.

869  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Emotion and Trade? on: July 30, 2023, 07:19:01 PM
Patience is also important things for trading. Some times we saw we are profited and some times we are loser in trade but don't afraid or Don't more happy and control emotion. When we able to control emotion then we able to get profit and reduce loss. So emotion controlling is most important to trading.
i support your sentence which i bolded....

keep in mind that in this world no human being is perfect let alone a trader who fights with uncertainty all the time, professional traders have a low percentage of losses, if you meet a professional trader then he will definitely answer things about emotion recognition that is very crucial in trading.

Emotions are difficult things for us to control when trading, many factors that make us not easily control emotions, for example are FUDS that are scattered on the internet, making us worry for hold, or vice versa positive news in the market and makes us very eager to buy, of course all have the same risk, and emotional control is a process and experience.
often environmental factors and hormones affect a trader's emotions every day (not only FUD that appear on the internet) always remember that every day is a time to learn, there is no end in trading.
870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gender in Gambling [differences between Women and Men in Gambling] on: July 30, 2023, 06:55:13 PM
When you talk about gambling, it seems that you are talking about the kind of irresponsible activity we sometimes see in clinical cases.

It is true that women are usually more reasonable in financial terms, especially in developing countries (in developed ones, it's true that they don't usually waste their money in alcohol, high bets etc. but they do purchasing expensive lotions and unnecessary fashion accessories), but gambling responsibly has nothing to do with respect to one's family.

BTW, I'm witnessing a generational change in this topic: more and more little girls are getting into sports in my country, especially football, so I foresee a greater female demand of sports bets in a few years, when they reach the legal gambling age.
here, it's a normal behavior (women betting on sports) especially now that the women's world cup event is taking place, i'm sure the majority of those involved in betting are women.  in Brazil, for example, you can often find women who are very good at playing football, they certainly don't just play football but follow soccer betting too, the culture and habits of a community really influence the behavior of women (similar to when you are in vegas or macau, sightings of female gamblers are common)
871  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just Another Good Source Of Motivation For You ... on: July 30, 2023, 06:23:55 PM
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Sure nothing special about this statement, but I just find the analogy interesting, maybe its because this is something we do everyday and have come to terms with it as the basics of life and existence, many of us tend to easily without looking back, spend good amount of money on things that add very little to no profit or value on our financial lives, like eating out in an expensive hotel or restaurant, but when it comes to spending on that one thing that has the potential to add some positive figures into our finances, we begin to do a lot of calculating and analyzing  Grin, is this not us indirectly cheating ourselves?
i also heard from one of my uncles who is quite wealthy at the moment, he said not to splurge on things that are not important at a young age, try to invest as early as possible and enrich yourself with knowledge and investment.  and right now i think bitcoin is still very early days, just imagine in the next few decades, when more and more people want bitcoin, the price will rise dramatically, collecting Bitcoin every month, the investment value will definitely increase in the future. 

with the reputation and popularity of bitcoin, investing in bitcoin as early as possible is a wise deed, its value will not decrease, price fluctuations may continue to occur, this is a reasonable market condition.
872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A weird belief among some gamblers. on: July 30, 2023, 05:54:24 PM
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So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people and how has the outcome been looking at all the times you have shared your predictions with others?
i don't believe in superstition when we give gambling advice or predictions to other people, our chances of winning will decrease, but i won't share gambling predictions with other people because it's not useful at all, if that person wins then I will be hurt, but if they lose then i will be blamed on him. 

sharing predictions with other people is actually not kindness, that person may have already made another bet but he is curious about what predictions you have.  so instead of hurting you, don't mind people who ask you for gambling predictions, especially the lottery.
873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: He Committed Suicide After Losing School fees, And That Of Friend To Betting.. on: July 29, 2023, 10:49:41 PM
Even how tough it was, parents needs to extend their efforts to make sure that they are doing the right thing, better than regretting if you find yourself in a same situation with the parent of that kid who committed suicide due to this un-anticipated situation, Parents will continue to be liable with how the kids being influence with their proper guide those young minds will be protected, but if they are not doing anything, the problem will come up.

For sure, there's none of us as parents who in the right mind that will blame our kids for doing that suicide, for the love that we had. We will always blame ourselves for such action that is being committed.
no child will go too far to gamble if their parents pay attention to all the activities that the child does..  for 24 hours, as parents we can't occasionally see the progress of the child and ask him about the days he has been through!!

the children will still be very unstable, they are immature in thinking, so when they experience serious problems, they are short-minded and feel that death is the best way for them to take.  money for the child is indeed important for the parents to look for, but the mental condition and also the education of the child is something that is very obligatory for parents to pay attention to, don't let the child become addicted to gambling or commit suicide, we as parents regret it for life.
874  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do exchanges impact the performance of newly listed token? on: July 29, 2023, 10:23:46 PM
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Summarily exchanges significantly impact the performance of newly listed tokens, although this may vary in tokens or exchanges.

As a trader or investor, can you relate to these findings?
the exchange greatly affects the price performance of newly listed tokens, it has often happened to new tokens when listing on binance (for example) the price immediately skyrocketed significantly but many of them are ultimately unable to maintain performance and end up having no value, this can happen because large exchanges usually have high liquidity, listing requirements are not easy and many promotions are held on new tokens.  besides that big exchanges also have a good reputation which really makes investors and traders feel comfortable, even so they stick to the principle of "not your key, not your coin"
875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? on: July 29, 2023, 08:58:01 PM
I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place  using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account  insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.
i'm sure at the beginning of the conversation the two people promised a fair share if they won, but one party was reluctant to do that because he thought that it was his account, if i became the owner of the account, i should be the one who gets more because it's an account. me, apart from that combining gambling capital into one with other people is a ridiculous idea.  anyway, i will never want to combine gambling capital with other people in one account, let alone my account because things like the above will definitely happen (greed is human nature)
876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: July 28, 2023, 11:29:46 PM
I knew China was going to get all 3 points from Haiti today and they did as I expected. Haiti is going to be the team that'd gift points to other teams in the group. Haiti was easy. Next game is against England which has better team quality vs China. I'm sure af that Denmark will win Haiti in the final group stage fixtures and qualify as the second team from that group.
China is quite difficult to face Haiti, they are lucky enough to get a penalty in the 74th minute, if there is no penalty then the final result is a draw, China is in 3rd place in Group D with 1 loss and 1 win, while Haiti is at the bottom of Group D with 2 defeats, China and Denmark are fighting for a place to advance to the next round.

For Brazil vs France game, my money is on France to win. Let's see how it goes. Got my fingers crossed.
in Group F Brazil leads with 3 points, facing France will definitely not be easy, even so the women of the Brazilian national team have good strength and they are one of the champion candidates in this event.  this is a tough match imo.
877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling experience using loan money on: July 28, 2023, 11:05:17 PM
I knew that there's many topic like this in the past that asking advice about loaning for gambling. The intention of this thread is determined what's the actual feeling when you are using a loan money on gambling knowing that there's an interest rate on your borrowed money which means you already lose part of your money before you start gambling.

I saw many high rank users here that asking for loan and directly deposit the loan amount on gambling account. I want to know what's the experience on using loan money. Is there additional pressure on gameplay or just the same using regular money without an interest rate.
there is a feeling of pressure! that's for sure, everyone who takes loans for risky actions (such as investing, trading and gambling) must have a very heavy mental burden, because what comes to mind from the borrower is how to return the loan on time, for that borrowing money to gamble is a ridiculous behavior.
recently in my environment, a man was kicked out by his father from home because he borrowed money from a loan shark to gamble, and the stupid man lost so the loan shark continued to terrorize the borrower's family, often people are trapped here, always remember that the money that what you borrow is not your money, never be desperate to borrow money from other people, let alone moneylenders for gambling purposes.
878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A neighbor next door on: July 28, 2023, 10:39:56 PM
If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?
actually, you are in a completely wrong position, on the one hand you want to be a good citizen, on the other hand you want to teach bitcoin to other people, but if i were you, i would not teach that person the basics about bitcoin and how to do it he transacted with bitcoin because it was certain that when he was caught by the police, the police would also chase me because they thought it was a gang of drug dealers.  bitcoin was not created for crime, but to improve the world's financial system.
879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if salaries were paid in BTC on: July 27, 2023, 10:56:40 PM
A friend of mine in our discussion today about Bitcoin was insisting that salaries and wages be paid in Bitcoin in some countries.
I was of the opinion that the government will not allow fiat to be replaced by Bitcoin .so what is your take on this will it be a positive move on the Bitcoin ecosystem or not
for some things, i think bitcoin is still quite difficult to use as a means of payment rather than just an investment asset, the discourse on bitcoin being used as a salary payment has been discussed in this article (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/21/eric-adams-new-york-city-mayor-paid-cryptocurrency)

fees problem, bitcoin regulations in the country, and also fluctuations in bitcoin prices are the main points (reasons) why bitcoin is still quite difficult to make as a salary payment, even so bitcoin paid campaigns in this forum (signature campaign) are actually suitable as examples by countries that want to make bitcoin as a means of paying salaries (to be honest paying salaries with bitcoin is not difficult at all)
880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: July 27, 2023, 10:22:11 PM
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If we planned our gambling bet we should not be going crazy after when we have not meet up our target in gambling, what i expected every gambler is to make table of how much should be spend in gambling and how much should go investment, because money we loses in gambling continuously if we gather it together it will sum up to start a little business. I'm say play gamble with experience, don't use all you have for casino gambling
when we don't have good money management skills, we will have difficulties in any way, including when we gamble, gambling cannot be arbitrary, gambling must be full of calculations, small mistakes will make us lose money.  but i'm sure many gamblers don't care about this, they gamble without calculation and not even a few become gambling addicts,

the following are things (based on an article i read) that all gamblers must pay attention to so they don't lose money;

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  • Don't Gamble on Emotions
  • Don't Use Borrowed Money
  • Understand the Game
  • Set Spending Limits
  • Gambling should be considered as a form of entertainment alone
  • Gambling should not be used as a source of income or a way to solve financial problems
  • Recognize the Signs of Addiction
  • Use a Self-Control Program
  • Prioritize Other Activities

it is also important for us to keep an eye on and remind friends or those around us who gamble very often on the things above, a concern can save many individuals.
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