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861  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for October on: October 01, 2023, 08:51:36 PM



I was looking at the chart to deduce what could actually happen  in this month of October, but I was surprised when I actually noticed that bull run may not happen 2014. It could be delayed to 2025. If you look at the chart from 2021, you will notice that the M shape is fully formed and  we know that bull doesn't really happen immediately after the second leg of the M. It seems that consolidation will happen for as long as half bear market happened before the bull run will take off. This might delay bull run to 2025.

Every year, the month of October seems to be a "green candle" month for bitcoin, with skyrocketing prices. Calculating the rise in bitcoin's price from 2013 through 2022 reveals that October has historically seen a significant price increases. So, October this year won't be an exception to that known fact of price increase of bitcoin

Bitcoin October Month Performance

🟢2013 → 60.79%
🟢2015 → 33.49%
🟢2016 → 14.71%
🟢2017 → 47.81%
🟢2019 → 10.17%
🟢2020 → 27.7%
🟢2021 → 39.93%
🟢2022 → 5.56%
⚪2023 → ?? %
Before the month is over, I'm hoping that the price of bitcoin will surpass $30,000.
Still following, 2022 had the lowest rise. So, with the current price of bitcoin, with a 5% rise take it to 30k? The current price is 27,105 and 5% of it is about +1355 which will not the price above 29k.
862  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does bitcoin price increase after halving? on: October 01, 2023, 08:32:00 PM
Halving events have frequently been associated with increase in price of bitcoin with significant upward momentum both before and after halving. Bitcoin halving often generate increased market attention and hype. Expectation of lower supply and likely price increase may fuel positive feelings amongst investors and traders.
This is not the first time that bitcoin is halving. Other past halvings already had a bull run that accompanied it. So, this time around would not be a different one. Talking about the price increase that accompanies the halving, it happens in two ways which is;
  • Bull run before halving
  • Bull run after halving
The bull run before the halving does not last very long, it is only a preliminary to the main bull run but people tend to sell here thinking it is the main bull run. The main  bull run  happens few months after the halving and that is the major bull run but it is not everyone that enjoys this bull run because they must have sold earlier.
863  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you believe Technical Analysis? on: October 01, 2023, 06:45:20 PM
Even outside the world of cryptocurrency, when there is involvement of a word called speculation, there is always a database to fall back to in order to have the idea of what to speculate. You cannot just speculate out of a thin air. There should be some tips of what has happened and how it will likely happen in the future and that is where history has to come in.

The technical analysis is all about interpreting history into a graphical form to be able to correlate the past with the present. This is a very strong to in making prediction in the crypto-currency market. However, this does not work alone, you need argument it with fundamentals. Both technical and fundamental analysis complement each other because it is what happens in the news that will begin to play out in the current charts. Also the chart shows you what will happen in the future depending on the psychology of the traders.
864  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Psychology and tips on: October 01, 2023, 06:35:27 PM
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Not only that but the higher the leverage, the lower the percentage of traders who consistently make money. In other words, by using leverage you get closer to a 100% probability of failure and the more leverage you use, the closer to 100%. Let's see without leverage, only
As I say, add leverage and you'll be close to a 100% failure rate.
That is what most traders who lost money don't understand,  This was practically what I was doing using a high leverage to trade when I started up as a newbie trader,  Actually non of those trades was in the money, sometimes I fuckinly increase the leverage to 50×,  and that was the worst time in my trading journey and the market fucked with me, got screwed back to back until I learn.

To be more profitable, Simply apply lower leverage be patient, and ride your account up slowly if have a working strategy.

Some people are so crazy about leveraging because they think that they have a working strategy.  But it does always end well when one is fond of using higher leverage when trading. Patience is a virtue. If one goes slow and steady with a working strategy, it will only take time to be in huge profits. But using a higher leverage in order to influence your profits faster can only lead to fatality.

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Evaluate your Trading Strategy
The idea behind trading is to make profit, therefore, the trading strategy you choose to deploy has to reflect positive growth on your equity, if it doesn’t, then you should consider re-evaluating it to something better.

It is fine to re-evaluate your strategy once a while. Do no relax and continue doing one thing because it is giving you results.  There might be better unexplored results. That is why it is good to re-evaluate your strategy either by testing it against other strategy (ies) and know the level of its effectiveness.
865  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Let's share some tips among ourselves. on: October 01, 2023, 06:18:25 PM
I have heard many tips to use in the cryptocurrency industry in order to make some kind of profits. I have also tried and tried to practicalize some of these tips. But in the real sense, they are not also proficient. Some of them did not work as they appear on paper. But when you do things out of your own experience, you will certainly make mistakes. But from those mistakes you will build up your experience to do better in the future. There was a tip a good friend of mine gave to me and I never knew that that tip has been in existence in the cryptocurrency industry, but many people relegated that tip because it does not respect average risk-taking.

That tip is to be fearful when everyone is greedy to buy but you should be greedy when everyone is fearful to buy. This is a very strong tip, but for people that has big minds to take bigger risks.
866  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading can ruin you on: October 01, 2023, 06:05:34 PM
Trading is most times profitable and sometimes challenging to traders, but it can ruin you just as gambling if you don't know how before venturing into it,  I have had a handful of terrible experience while trading and I discovered that it can return you to square one in terms of your finances if precautions is not taken.

Though am a better trader now, but I still thred with caution,  the best way for newbie to navigate their way in the market is to buy and hold, then sell when the price goes up.
When it comes to future market, newbie should stay off because it's for experience traders, even if you run a poll of people to tell of their experience in trading in this forum, %80 of people will rule out trading as a no go area based on their terrible experience while trading.

So newbie, stay of trading futures if you know nothing about technical analysis or fundamental analysis for not to be ruined.
It is only when you understand that trading is not all about buying low and selling high, that you can be successful in trading. There are a lot of things that are associated with cryptocurrency trading. Apart from knowing the charts or knowing both the fundamental analysis and technical analysis. There are other things that associated with trading, such as emotion, financial management and lots more that one needs to study and get acquainted to before they will begin to make profit in cryptocurrency trading.

Those who loses all they have  in the name of trading are the ones that will say that trading ruined their life. If you should ask how, you will be surprised that these people did not know how to trade. There trading is a kind of gambling where you choose if a coin will appreciate or depreciate at a time. When you keep making these choices without some basic analysis to back up your choices, you will keep making the wrong choices and in the end you blow up your portfolio and blame it on trading. Only those who have the patience to learn how to trade make profit in the long run.
867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin always fight back on: October 01, 2023, 05:48:58 PM
Yeah, Bitcoin has experienced several significant downturns in price, but yet it still survived, even to the extent that some people on this forum and outside the forum were singing Bitcoin obituaries and believing that Bitcoin would die, but it sailed through the storms that it was faced with. Bitcoin will continue to win, in my opinion, and with the lot of attacks that Bitcoin is facing from both the government and hackers, I don't think there is any coin that could beat Bitcoin. Last year, some people even thought that the Bitcoin price would drop to $8k, while others thought it would go below $15k, but they were disappointed.

But I think the people who think bitcoin will fall to $8k or below $15k are not the same people who are saying bitcoin has failed or is about to die.  simply because those people want to buy bitcoin at the cheapest price possible because they know it is the best chance to make a profit.  I also personally predicted bitcoin would drop to $12k last year, and all I wanted was the opportunity to buy bitcoin as cheaply as possible.  I never thought that a further drop in bitcoin would be bad for bitcoin or possibly death for it.  they all just want to buy low and sell high.
In the world of cryptocurrency, especially as it concerns bitcoin, there are a lot of uncertainties and disbelief. Even if you are very much aware that a certain thing will happen in Bitcoin, but there will still be some kind of fear in you because anything can change at any time in the cryptocurrency markets. Majority people also know that when there is information about the drop of bitcoin to an  unreasonable low points, the essence of such information is to make the weak hands to sell their bitcoins and the stronger hands will buy more at discounted price. But once the price begin to drop there will be a very big FUD and that fear and uncertainty will certainly push the price dow the more and when the panic is more, the unexpected could happen but in the end those who held on to their bitcoin are always the ones that will be on profit.
868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin always fight back on: October 01, 2023, 10:21:33 AM
Although I understand the context in which you said that bitcoin always fight back. But in the real sense bitcoin does not fight its fighters and there is actually no one that fights for bitcoin because bitcoin is decentralized and it is nobody's project. Assuming  the creator of Bitcoin - satoshi is still active in the Bitcoin industry, he would have been the one going to court to defend bitcoin in one way or the other even in the media. But today many people say any sort of things against bitcoin but bitcoin do not fight back however bitcoin has a way to prove them wrong, whatever they say, within a twinkle of an eye bitcoin will prove them wrong and will still remain strong because it is the coin of the people
The world is tilting strongly towards decentralization. There is nothing government can do about it. Human being is hungry and tasety of liberty and bitcoin is the only coin that gives this absolute liberty.
869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where are all the Bitcoin naysayers? on: October 01, 2023, 09:59:53 AM
I remember in good old days there was a bunch of notorious Bitcoin naysayers visiting this forum frequently. In particular, I can mention such accounts as Stolfi, Proudhon the llama and Roach (this nazi guy was hilarious actually). I'm sure many forum regulars remember them. There were many others as well, appearing from time to time, posting anti-bitcoin bs and FUD.

I have to admit that I rarely visit some parts of this forum, but I haven't seen any anti-Bitcoin accounts active recently. Why is that? There are no naysayers left? Lost interest in this forum? Or maybe I'm not attentive enough and they're still among us?  Grin  
I am not familiar with the usernames you mentioned above, it could be that I was not in the forum when this set of people weee antagonizing Bitcoin. I am not quite surprised that most of these bitcoin haters are no longer in the forum and they are very minimal in the whole internet. This is because bitcoin has proven that he is the indisputable king. They have killed bitcoin with their mouths for many times and bitcoin has resurrected and shamed them all.  I have only seen bitcoin SV criticizing bitcoin and promoting a fork of Bitcoin called bitcoin cash. I did not know about his account again because I have not been seeing him.

As Franky1 has said many people who publicly criticized bitcoin may be holding a lot of Bitcoin in secret, but just to deceive the agencies and other gullible people that they do not own Bitcoin.
870  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and gambling which one has done you more harm on: October 01, 2023, 09:38:26 AM
What kind of question is this? It is like comparing apples to oranges. Gambling is designed to make you lose money in the long run - it is a sport, it cannot be compared to something like Bitcoin which is currency, and is not intended to resemble anything like a game.
Most people who do not know much about bitcoin simply take it to be a kind of gambling and that is why such people always blow up their portfolio whenever they are trading. They do not know much about trading techniques, they did not know the fundamental or technical analysis, yet they claim they trade. What they really do is take trading as gambling, to predict which coin will go up and which coin will fall even without putting any kind of consideration. This is the reason why they take bitcoin trading or investment as gambling.
However, in a real sense bitcoin is an investment and it requires a lot of skill to learn about it although there is an iota of gambling in Bitcoin investment and trading, yet, it cannot be called gambling.
871  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Avoiding Faucets and Airdrop Scams on: September 30, 2023, 08:05:05 AM
Scammers are taking advantage of our stupidity. Mostly greedy and new crypto users are falling into the airdrop trap. They are submitting their private keys for tokens, which is worthless. Many threads have been raised to protect forum users from such scams. But still, we are hearing about airdrop scams. We have to keep in mind that nothing is free in the world.
I understood that the faucets and airdrop of a thing is about mindset of the newbies. Many newbies still have the believe that they can make millions of dollars in the cryptocurrency industry even without spending a dime. This is the reason why they are busy  chasing airdrop and they do not hesitate to connect their wallets in the quest to completing the task that is given them.
If newbies understand that nothing is actually free in the real sense they will limit the way they flood in airdrop and faucets earning opportunities.
872  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Let fear to lose be motivation to learn on: September 30, 2023, 07:46:14 AM
You may see it that fear has made you not to lose money in cryptocurrency when you do not have the knowledge of it. I understand that some newbies will always want to trade and invest when they do not know anything about cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. But I am also not impressed in your testimony because you are not supposed to be fearful of losing. If  you are very scared of losing your money, that means you may never make more money. What you need to do is simply to take your time and advance your skills in bitcoin trading and investment. When you have learnt alot, you will be confident and no longer afraid of losing.

Even  in our daily lives, we lose in one way or the other so stop being scared and do your best in the cryptocurrency market?
873  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Accumulating Bitcoin with ease on: September 30, 2023, 07:30:19 AM
Bitcoin is a dream to hold for every crypto hodler. This may look difficult for a poor or an average man with low income especially in an economic situation where most people find it difficult to feed themselves very well on regular basis

And for a person who is poor and unable to meet his need, it will be very bad of him to take the decision and risk of accumulating Bitcoin and i believe such a person will need advice not to partake in buying Bitcoin.

This I will also say. There is actually nothing or just a few things you can do with ease and bitcoin is not among them. For you to own bitcoin, you should have certified one of the below criteria;
  • Have money to buy bitcoin
  • Render services that pay in bitcoin
  • Sell products and accept payment in bitcoin
  • Have a job from which you can maintain your DCA method
Someone who is poor and does not know where there next meal is coming from may never invest in bitcoin.
874  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin really risky as they say? on: September 30, 2023, 07:16:46 AM
Re: Is Bitcoin really risky as they say?

Every asset that is volatile in nature is risky and bitcoin is not an exception. This is the reason there is a general rule for bitcoin investment and  even that of other assets like bonds and stocks that are volatile. The general rule is for you to invest what you are able to lose. This very rule has applied to bitcoin for a very long time, especially when bitcoin was relatively new.
But as time goes, bitcoin has gained more confidence and it has been proven that you can only lose in Bitcoin when you sell at loss. but if you have a very strong hand and hold, bitcoin will definitely reverse to profit unlike altcoins  which might not see another uptrend after a big dip

Generally, most people sees Bitcoin as being of high risk , meanwhile, others tend to disagree with the fact of being risky.

Bitcoin can be understood from different angles on how it will become beneficial to one. Either as a store of value(So as to avoid taxes), Investment or means of payment.

The essence of bitcoin is not to avoid taxes. Please, if you earn in bitcoin and your country taxes bitcoin earnings and transactions, please pay your tax.
875  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Stake.com Hot wallet robbed for 40Million + usd (Confirmed by stake) on: September 26, 2023, 12:46:04 PM
Today stake released premonthly for every VIP user.

I was  VERY surprised when  i saw  it, since its easily few million dollars for them that they dont need  to give to users, especially after double monthly bonus in august due  to their birthday.

This just proves that stake is  undisputed #1  right  now atleast based on revenue/profits.

They can still afford to give these  bonuses to users inspite of losing 40+ million, I  have no doubt most other sportsbooks would shut down or try to recoup  their losses by cutting back on promotions etc

That is one of the many profits people enjoy when they play with a reputable and trusted casino.  If this hack had happened to a relatively new and unpopular casino, it would have been an exit door for them. Even when  they do not want to exit, the pressure from the media and the users will throw them into more problems. But with stake, see how calm the environment remained and I bet you that many people that plays with Stake.com doesn't know that they were hacked. This is because there is no panic or prolonged pause of withdrawal   .This is an example that building reputation is very necessary in the gambling business.

I have read somewhere about stake transactions running in billions, the 40 million lost is something that will not take Stake so long to recover because they are much rooted in the business. But then they should have ways to mitigate such occurrences in the future. In as much as it's not affecting them, hacks depict vulnerability which is not a good thing.
876  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mixin Network hacked - $200 Million lost on: September 26, 2023, 12:06:37 PM


Today's breaking news - that Mixin Network's cloud database has been attacked resulting in the loss of several mainnet assets and that's what the official statement on Twitter says.
[1] https://twitter.com/MixinKernel/status/1706139175018529139


This is just an irony of action. If I were to predict that any platform would be hacked any moment I would never includ mixin. Mixin came to the forum with the promise of security our bitcoin and possibly make it hereditary.  They also said that their system does not store people's private keys, rather they hold one of the keys, the customer hold one while the network friends hold one and in order to authorize transaction, atleast two of the three keys holders will have to approve. This means that for there to be a successful hack, the hackers got access to the mixin data base and also the customers data base which is bad.

I know mixin has been in existence for so many years, but they recently found their way to the crypto industry and are willing to dominate. But this hack will be a major set back to their reputation while many will lose confidence even after being refunded. I wish this never happened to them.
877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 26, 2023, 11:41:57 AM
MANCHESTER UNITED AND CHELSEA FC, which is better or which will have a better season?

We all saw and understood how last season was among the worst season of Chelsea Football Club in the recent time. After the change of management and successive change of coaches, they were unable to end above the top 10 in last season's English Premier League. For the fact that they bought many new talents, we expected them to perform better this season but to my surprise Chelsea is still struggling to play good football.
In the other hand, Manchester United my club did very well under their coach Eric who was new then. Everyone expected that they will consolidate their performance this season,  but this season is trying to be a different story for them.

Between Manchester United and Chelsea, who do you think will have a better season?
878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is life on: September 26, 2023, 10:58:50 AM
Op, in this same topic you have discussed
  • Bitcoin as life
  • Bitcoin as the best coin in the world
  • Gambling
  • Trading  
We all have many things to share but try as much as possible to discuss one theme under one topic subsequent time. If you do so, your post will have less chnaces of being an off topic post.

I see a lot of people here comparing gambling games to bitcoins I think those who do this are mentally ill because bitcoin is recognized as the best coin in the world and we see everyone's future in bitcoin and bitcoin price is so low now that's why we  Let's all buy Bitcoin now and it will be very beneficial for our future.
No one should be addressed as being financially ill, they have the right to their opinions. And examining the cade very well will tell that there are some percentages of gambling in bitcoin investment, which is why you are advised to invest o ly what you can lose. So, be guided.

I'm not saying gambling is bad I'm saying no one should gamble because if you gamble you can lose everything your whole life income can go there that's why you trade bitcoins you light your future and gamble happy happy  Never get addicted to it and try to stay away from it.
But gambling is bad, why are you not saying that gambling is bad?
879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MicroStrategy Bought More BTC on: September 26, 2023, 09:10:18 AM
Michael Saylor bought around 5,445 more BTC. At an average price tag of $27,053 per Bitcoin and the total investment is around $147.3 million. Which is a big milestone in the adoption of BTC. We all know the adoption of BTC is increasing day by day. This is a good news.

When you talk about bitcoin adoption and possibly its expansion, we should be focused more about new companies that have joined the cryptocurrency industry in order to buy bitcoin. For the case of microstrategy, we have seen them countless times buy bitcoin and hold for a very long time. They even sometimes buy when the price up already. So we are not surprised by the activities of microstrategy. It'll be nice if new people join this race because with the amount of Bitcoin microstrategy is holding, I am beginning to fear manipulation and market control by microstrategy. This is a market of demand and supply with volume the more volume you have the ability to control the market.

It’s crazy to think that after all this buying, he is still at a loss. This is why you should never DCA large portions near the top. I think he was in profit for a few days only this year before it again went below his average.
MS cannot be at loss even when we knew that the last bull run crashed on MS. The DCA system is powerful that it gives massive profits with small rise in price. If bitcoin touches $30k in few weeks time, it will be a good profit for MS.
880  Other / Meta / Re: is Politics and Society board turning into a lowkey Off-topic board? on: September 25, 2023, 11:56:20 PM
Sometimes I come across posts that to me look like they are best suited for Off-topic board rather than Politics and Society board. It gets a little confusing and there seems to be low or no Mod activity there. The Mod assigned for that board has been offline for ages.
Post like this have nothing to do with Politics and Society in my opinion, or am I being too extreme?

1. Do you take water intake seriously?
2. Beware of scammers.
3. YOUTUBE VS TIKTOK
and so on...

Thinking of reporting them, but I first need opinions just to be sure.

I have noticed this long ago and I wanted to report to moderators but on a second thought I didn't report because I noticed a similar sequence in other boards like Economics. These two boards;
  • Politics & Society
  • Economics
Some of the topics seen in these boards are off topics that the authors do not necessarily want to be in the off topic,  so they gamble it and squeeze in any of the boards and the authors get lucky most times that they aren't deleted or moved.
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