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861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BEST FREE SPORTS BETS #1 TIPSTER✔(W2020/L340)PROFESSIONAL TIPSTER! BET NOW! :) on: May 17, 2016, 07:18:48 PM
A restart is highly recommended especially now that another tipster CarlesPuyol almost made it to 100% ROI, time to give us some good predictions so we can raise our balance a bit of course thanks to your skill and of course with a touch of luck which is always needed.
862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: May 17, 2016, 01:26:25 PM
Sometimes gambling let you cry and its logical because gambling is not easy and its depending on luck.
Everyone has the feeling of crying with gambling, I really have no doubts about that.

Gambling mostly make those people cry who think that they will just get rich with gambling if they play big, but they don't know that gambling is not made for making everyone rich, but it just happens for some lucky people once in a while.
People just put all their money in gambling to multiplying them without thinking about the risk, so these people would surely cry when they see they have lost all they had.
People cried because of two things, happiness and sadness. I am a long time losers in gambling but I have not cried yet, maybe just because I was able to handle my losses. I will really cry if I win millions in gambling.

Me too I never cried in gambling of losing and I have lost quite a lot , I was a fanatic of slot machines and lost lots of BTC there, maybe I will cry the day when I will hit the jackpot yeah I keep thinking I will win it some day I just hope I am not 75 years old like the guy who won hugest jackpot of his life at this age.
863  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - NEW SPORTS BETTING + 34 New slot games on: May 17, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
I would call this gambler truly crazy and extremely courageous because I will never have the guts to place a single bet of 100 BTC , thats an insane amount of money to lose in a single bet, its 45000 USD right now in the moment we are speaking. I honestly would exchange it to cash or wait in cold storage until price of BTC goes even higher than 450 range. That person is insane, congratulations to him for the 200 BTC win but I think in the long run those 200 BTC are of the house as he will lose them soon along the way.
864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: May 17, 2016, 01:19:01 PM
Fact here, gambling sites always win. They established that kind of business because that is very profitable even in a short run. Gambling sites are design for the owners to be rich while for the gamblers to feel entertained while burning their money on it. Gambling then should be treated as a form of entertainment since by knowing the fact that majority of the gambles losses in the long.

I am saying here majority because I do believe that there gamblers our there who made a fortune out of gambling. They use to say gambling in sports betting is called sports investing. That is because they are the professionals, who treated gambling as a business, they are the chosen on to take advantage of their gifts.

There is no gift in gambling, they can be talented a lot, and I have seen quite a few of them displaying their skills in this very forum, however I have also noticed in their threads they have hit several losses in a row even these talented tipsters losing more that they won. Even sports betting is based on luck, no matter how skillful you are when the ball don't want to enter the net it simply don't and we lose our bets. I think no one is a winner in the long run, but yes there are people who are doing really good streaks in sport betting.
865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: June 2016 on: May 17, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
I think price have been stable during last days, and it need a major force to bring some price movement, maybe when halving comes it will move the price of bitcoin and other alts but this remains pure speculation, we cannot know from now what will happen after the halving, its just mere prediction.
866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling is Exploding on: May 17, 2016, 09:37:44 AM
This is all about quantity and in the future there will be a massive adoption of the future and that makes it even more awesome for the bitcoins and gambling sites.
You are only partially right about quantity. Because from what I know it is extremaly easy to create and operate bitcoin gambling site (at least compared to standard FIAT based gambling services)
That is the reason we have so many cryptocurrency casinos around. But in the end people will pick their top services and there will be only few really good casinos left.

It seems easy but there is also a lot of cases whereby even bitcoin top platform exchange also got hacked and are in serious trouble.
In most cases hackers just capitalize on lack of imagination and human error of operators.
Most of these attacks could have been reverted if owners weren't so stingy about providing additional money for security, backup, cold wallets.

And some of these 'attacks' were even fake - and covered exit scams of untrustworthy businesses.

Usually not some but all of the attacks so far have been proven fake and are only exit scams maybe not of the businesses themselves but of an individual who worked or was working for them. Its good so far no large casino have not made any of this excuses to get players fund, but if it does so, then the profit would be smaller than of that of a lot of gamblers playing there, thats why so far we have not seen anything like this happen to approved large casinos in bitcoin.
Absolutely, why would a gambling sites operate if it is prone to hacking or they don't have a system to contradict hackers. It requires a lot of money in gambling so the owner would do anything to protect their investment. Don't believe in that kind of shit cause that site would just scam you sooner or later.

Still we have seen banking systems gets hacked, so if the hacker or hackers are really good they can even hack a bitcoin casino and I think in the future this will be their target cause they know they can get quite a lot of bitcoins , its a good thing the majority of casinos store their bitcoins in cold wallets, but still hot wallets have big amount of coins also. I would be not so sure regarding an individual who is working in this company , if he has access to some sensitive areas of the website and if he has good friends with a lot of hacking capabilities it can be even an inside job.
867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: May 17, 2016, 09:33:09 AM
Its a problem of ethics, character and moral of a single individual. For some gambling is not wrong even if they lose everything as they say after the loss, well I could have won big if it was won so it was worth trying my luck, there are others who think gambling is wrong only when they lose, and then there are some who even a single cent played is wrong. In the end gambling is wrong as it can lead in many cases to end of one person life (extreme suicide cases, I have seen in my country) ruin of families, losing of jobs and many more bad thing that has as origin the gambling. So gambling is wrong in the end.
868  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is PrimeDice fair? on: May 17, 2016, 09:26:45 AM
I would say Primedice is much fair and trusted since its one of the oldest dice companies with a very good reputation so far, playing with their bits is a nice strategy if you have a lot of time and maybe you get lucky , otherwise is not worthy. Still they are one of the fairest companies of dice in this forum, you can check a lot of other threads here talking about them ,Primedice.
869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Spanish League Prediction Thread (La Liga) on: May 17, 2016, 08:30:35 AM
Glad to see Barcelona become the champions, they have been the best team all season & deserved it imo.

Yep they are still the best team of the league , but Atletico Madrid eliminated them from the champions league  which showed greater performance by Atletico, maybe in the end of the championship Atletico was better but still I think the lose against Sporting Gijon costed Atletico the title this year, otherwise they could have won it too and it would be very good for La Liga if this happened, but maybe it will happen next year who knows.
870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: May 17, 2016, 08:27:52 AM
Verstappen is a very new world champions, nobody think a 19years change team in this week and to the first gp, is 4th in the qualify. I think tomorrow can already finish race in first 3 place
Verstappen has made some noise within the formula one community. He already was special when he first came in but know he also shows improvement.
This shows that in the future he can become a top contender.

Thats true, considering the fact that he has a slower car compared to top rated teams, the fact that he is much faster than his teammate doesn't mean that the Toro Rosso is a very good car compared to the others. Still with this obstacle and thanks to a in race incident he managed to made his first win of his career being the youngest formula 1 driver ever to win a GP. This surely would caught the attention of big F1 car companies like Ferrari,Mercedes etc. I hope he gets a really good car soon and maybe he will start winning championships in a row. Not good for F1 if this happen but good for him.
871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Myths and facts about gambling addiction on: May 17, 2016, 08:22:47 AM
Just a reply with a funny joke in my country about the first point of the first OP post.

There was a king son and he began to drink a lot, so worried the people told to the king, he have started drinking a lot and the king replied, its ok no problem.
Then he started going with hookers, so worried the people told to the king, he have started dating hookers, its ok said the king no problem we have a lot of money.
Then he started gambling, so worried the people told to the king, he started gambling. The king replied shocked, stop him or he will make us miserable all.

Moral: You can never become rich with the gambling. End of story.
872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: May 17, 2016, 08:19:49 AM
It's safe to assume gambling is not a method to earn on the long run. The odds are Always against you so playing while depending on luck is very very naive.

Yes the moment you feel you can earn big bucks with gambling you are being very naive. Even childish. Because an adult should know how it works with gambling.
Like the OP stated, in the end you will end up losing..
In the most cases you also see indeed that there are a lot of people that is losing a lot of money with gambling and that is because you need to be lucky in gambling.
You have to be only really lucky with gambling and that happens not that often so that is bad.

Actually to win in gambling your are saying we should be lucky, but luck is against us most of the time, so you can't really win in gambling and you can lose in the long run as everyone else. And about that player poker mentioned above, what guarantee do we have that he doesn't lose all of his winnings and more and go broke in the long run , nothing. So its safe to say no one can win in the long run, just gamble with few money to feel the fun and adrenaline of it, don't make it your primary concern or you will be destroyed.
873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: May 17, 2016, 08:17:02 AM
I have been playing a lot at crypto games and I see that in the long run the house edge is very much present there. If you cannot keep 1 bitcoin in your wallet, I suggest you invest it in crypto games rather than gamble with it, 1 bitcoin is safer as an investment rather than a gambling bankroll. I don't know the minimum investment there, but thinking myself to invest about 0.10 Bitcoin as a start there to see how it goes for a bit of time, if it goes well , I will invest a lot more.
874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: May 17, 2016, 08:08:38 AM
Gambling can be an addiction for a lot of people.  I think for me it is just entertainment.


It's a choice for people if they sees gambling as entertainment or for living earning to them.

Well if people only sees gambling as an entertainment, then there's a lot of alternatives for it. There's a lot of things that can entertain us. Although some people still prefer gambling over these tons of other things because they use gambling as a way of socializing with their friends and earning some money as well.

Many people have a gambling problem and addiction. But I think there are few ways if applied your loss from Gambling can be minimized. The one of the best way to minimize the gambling problem is that you start with small amount and once you won and get profits you remove your original invested income and start gamble with earned profits. Then again you remove some parts of profits into real money and gamble with the rest Won money. I think this is the best option and that is good too.  Smiley

This is only good if you are winning continuously, but how about when you are losing. That is the tricky part. Because when you lose, you wanted to get back the money loss and you will fund your capital again until you have nothing. That is where the problem starts. You will go bankrupt just because of that especially when it is not your day.
Yeah! that is true, how I wish I am a winner as I would go rich in no time. I can make use of my gambling addiction on a positive side then. Unfortunately, few people can only win in gambling in the long run.

Well it would be good to name some of the persons who can win in gambling in the long run, I don't know anyone except professional poker players which we seen on TV that have won a lot but thats not a guarantee they will not lose it in the long run. For me is impossible to win in gambling in the long run. Well I tried a so called strategy of mine, what I would win in gambling I would invest in mining, result is I lost much more than I invested in gambling. I can say no one is able to keep winning in the long run , no matter if some persons here claim to be winning in the long run, is just impossible.
875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling is Exploding on: May 17, 2016, 08:04:27 AM
This is all about quantity and in the future there will be a massive adoption of the future and that makes it even more awesome for the bitcoins and gambling sites.
You are only partially right about quantity. Because from what I know it is extremaly easy to create and operate bitcoin gambling site (at least compared to standard FIAT based gambling services)
That is the reason we have so many cryptocurrency casinos around. But in the end people will pick their top services and there will be only few really good casinos left.

It seems easy but there is also a lot of cases whereby even bitcoin top platform exchange also got hacked and are in serious trouble.
In most cases hackers just capitalize on lack of imagination and human error of operators.
Most of these attacks could have been reverted if owners weren't so stingy about providing additional money for security, backup, cold wallets.

And some of these 'attacks' were even fake - and covered exit scams of untrustworthy businesses.

Usually not some but all of the attacks so far have been proven fake and are only exit scams maybe not of the businesses themselves but of an individual who worked or was working for them. Its good so far no large casino have not made any of this excuses to get players fund, but if it does so, then the profit would be smaller than of that of a lot of gamblers playing there, thats why so far we have not seen anything like this happen to approved large casinos in bitcoin.
876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ether price? on: May 16, 2016, 07:11:46 PM
Apparently an exchange lost about 185.000 Ether plus 250 BTC with a total loss of 2mln USD dollar. Be ready for the big dump now and we should see a fall in price of ethereum. I think the website hacked is gatecoin.

That's old news and dump may already have happened.

Maybe but I don't see any dump yet, as the price of ether is still at almost 0.025 BTC , if the dump would have already started then I expect the price to be down the 0.02 area. But maybe nothing happens for the moment.
877  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin Robot - Free trial 14 days on: May 16, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
If it works so well, why don't you keep it yourself and make a lot of BTC then sell it on exchanges, this should be more profitable. I think I have seen this ad all over major paid to click websites and I don't think people here are not that intelligent to not get this is an attempt to promote your own or some friend of yours program. Beside that that program may have some malware to steal coins in it. 
878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: May 16, 2016, 07:05:02 PM
Many people are rich from gambling. People gambling, that is. Running a casino/gambling site seems pretty profitable, and fairly safe in the long term so they make a lot of money off of other people losing their money.
I think it's not that easy to make gambling site? you need to make gambling sites that seem to be different and exciting. you do not want your site ends because no player ?
so you need innovation and great gambling games in it and remember. create a gambling site is not always always profit

Right, because you know that's all seem like a easy and profitable, but in fact all casino and gambling sites use the different ways to motivate the people, have you ever seen the casino, they are a big merchants who build the casino and invest it a big amount and use the extra ordinary ways to promote their casino, then people are playing here and in this way that's all continue, but it doesn't mean that casino and gambling sites easily earning and get profit, a big afford behind it.

Well most of the time a gambling site is profit, usually the gamblers even those who win, get affected by the greed, and when they do , the casino will win because they have a house edge which in the end will come up and make everyone lose , regarding games of luck, like dice and slots and I am talking about online casinos, I don't frequent offline casinos at all. So usually the house will end up in profit from almost every single player.
879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: May 16, 2016, 07:01:14 PM
My gambling problem is that I cannot really afford to gamble, so I don't :/
Here people are sharing about their problems, they are facing while gambling. But you are saying we are having problem to gamble. Highly typical. But in my opinion you are already staying safe from gambling. Keep it going as it is....
yeah it's better to not be in gambling because there are many problems that can you earn if you gambling. do not try to play if you can not accept or afford the risk of gambling. stress and sadness will probably haunt you if you suffered a major defeat. as I experienced today



I know how it feels, when I was playing gambling at the beginning I won a bit and thought , this is really fun I can win easy money this way playing slots, but after very few days I experienced the losing of everything, and sadness got me. I stopped immediately playing, now I occasionally play a few bets in soccer games, I try to follow tipsters or prediction threads, but have truly quit gambling regarding dice, slots, roulette blackjack and any other game of luck. I hope for you to never encounter anything like this again, but if you continue gambling this way you can encounter it again.
880  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ Earn up to .0007/Post (Newb-Hero Welcome) on: May 16, 2016, 06:58:01 PM
A good idea would also be if they can change the payment to bi weekly and pay always on time, this way they have more time to focus on bringing an on time payment always. There are campaigns who are paying bi weekly, maybe this is a possibility here. Still very happy with the rates of this campaign, its one of the best.
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