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861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: MobileGo Signature Campaign Information on: June 13, 2017, 09:23:44 PM
Have any news about bounty token distribution?
I think almost distribution has been done to investors, and listed at exchange like bittrex and liqui, I hope bounty hunter will get the bounty this weekend.
As my mother says, your words would be in God's ears. We all really hope for this and I also would not mind waiting for the distribution of the reward already this weekend.
862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SKINCOIN - CRYPTOCURRENCY FOR eSPORTS INDUSTRY on: June 12, 2017, 09:23:34 PM
I like this idea, i used to gamble on skins but since the tmartin scandal a lot of sites stopped working with skins because the bots that are used to deposit stopped working with them. Looking foward to the development of this coin.
Apparently so this project is considered very promising And I think that we are not you, intended for gambling, betting and other things, will have a very huge demand, and will make life easier for the gambler
863  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: June 12, 2017, 09:19:29 PM
I will go with trading, arbitration and participating in  campaigns and bounties. HYIP to me like gambling you must time it when to go in and when to run out.
although there are so many other source of getting bitcoin for example signature campaign, faucet, gambling, lending bitcoin, trading altcoin, holding bitcoin itself, and if you have some good skill about designing then you can also make money from designing. but to me i will choose trading altcoin because from trading altcoin we have good opportunities to make good profit in a short period of time.
Unlike other ways, trading takes a very long time to conduct on the exchange and have a good earnings. Of course I understand that the waste of time pays very well, but you need to make a choice now what to do.
864  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: June 12, 2017, 09:16:40 PM
Why they are only looking at the possibility of bitcoin being used for criminality or any related violence funding? Criminality acts are even existing bitcoin is not yet created. And they are only taking advantage bitcoin for it's anonymity so they found a way for supporting their criminality.

What do you mean "only" for bitcoin and criminal activity?

It is seen as a whole bunch of things, like a way of transferring money, making payments for purchases, store of value, investment, etc.

It's meant to provide an alternative to the traditional banking system, so if it's used for criminal activity, know that the criminal activity that has utilized Bitcoin is partly responsible for the increase in demand and price.

Read the OP and you will understand why I said "only". Let's say they are one of the reason to make the demand higher, but if they are using bitcoin for such filthy crimes, I'm not going to consider that as helpful to the economy. This is the disadvantage of bitcoin and almost everything has disadvantage when money is involved.

What do you consider to be helpful to the economy?  For the government to say what you should and should not do?  And everyone obeys what the government wants?  Government knows best?  People aren't supposed to serve the government.  Government is here to serve the people.  If you are harming someone else with criminal activity, in that there is a victim, of course that needs to be understood and minimized.  But Bitcoin doesn't really support too much of that type of crime.  It supports crime in the form of trading products or services that are simply prohibited by the government, but at the same time, have no victim.  Understanding that the government doesn't care at all about your life or health, tell me why these prohibitions or lack of freedom exists?
Here it is necessary to decide whether you want to live in a law-based state or not. The point is perhaps better to renounce any citizenship And thus you will save yourself from paying taxes. Therefore, you will use your Bitcoin at your discretion and not think about what someone will tell you to pay tax. But a stateless person loses some liberties as a citizen.
865  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin also lead to corruption ? on: June 12, 2017, 09:01:03 PM
The phrase to root out corruption involuntarily makes me laugh. You just can not imagine that those corrupt officials who do not give the state to develop. They want to know about the advantages of Bitcoin, then everyone would invest their own money in the crypto currency. You understand that Bitcoin is able to hide all the money obtained illegally And even more so to avoid paying taxes. Many officials dream of clearing their income declaration and hiding their money.
866  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 12, 2017, 08:57:30 PM
If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose? Keep in mind the fact that Bitcoin has only been around for 5 years, and could be fundamentally different in any number of ways in 10 years.
I would choose bitcoin instead of gold as bitcoin has given tremendous returns to its investors while in the same time,gold has given very few profit.Gold being in existence for centuries is an added benefit for gold but bitcoin too is working on a secured block chain technology.So our investment in bitcoin is safe.
I think 99% people replay is bitcoin, and  think the main reason behind this is that there is always good fluctuation in the price and everyone is hopping that they can get good profit from investing in bitcoin. and therefore they are choosing bitcoin instead of gold and those people who have no idea about bitcoin still they are giving preference to bitcoin.
On the expanses of the forum there are really a lot of people who do not understand anything in the crypto currency. And yet they try to understand what it is, and at the same time earn good money in this sphere. Point So I can not say that someone will talk badly about Bitcoin. But at the same time I'm sure that he will not give up gold either, but as for the common man, I'm sure that because of the lack of information, Bitcoin will be without support from them. Gold definitely will prevail.
867  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining coins save or sell it? on: June 12, 2017, 08:54:36 PM
Not all altcoins are waste, it seems that a few altcoins is a back up for bitcoins and use for exchange and tradings... I use my altcoins exchange to cloud mining that I got it from faucets. I can't participate regularly in exchange services due to my busy time.
But nevertheless each of their coins are used at their discretion, despite how much you extracted them from the tap. I have more than once met people who do not want to trade out for little things and concentrate their attention on more important things.
868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: MobileGo Signature Campaign Information on: June 10, 2017, 01:42:25 PM

Thanks for your cleary answer! What news about date of bounty distribution? Dont want to loose tokens and Want to know day or terms when it goin on? Have any news?

Jack stated that he will be going distribute the bounty to the participants after couple of weeks.


what's the process of distribution? participants in bounty need to create an account in the ICO site?
and for signature, send PM to Jack with WAVES or ETH address?

i think you must wait after distribution to investor buyer ico finish
after distribution to investor finish, dev or jack can announcement how to claim bounty
On this occasion so already repeatedly said that it is necessary to create additional information from him. I also asked, even on a personal issue, to which he gave the same answer. Definitely need to expect additional information from Jack, and he will say How our rewards will be distributed.
869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: multy wallet on: June 10, 2017, 01:32:55 PM
Hello people,

I'm mainly into btc but I also have a few altcoins.
I'd like to know if there is desktop wallet like electrum but that is able to hold multiple kind of coins?
I post it in the BTC section because I want it to be able to hold BTC too, just BTC AND some altcoins like XRP or DGB.

I'm pretty satisfied with electrum but I don't want to see get multiple wallet softwares if I can avoid it.

Thanks in advance!
Once I was advised to Bitcoin a wallet with multiple capabilities. The coinomi wallet has all the existing crypto-currencies in it And, moreover, you can add your coin names. This is a multi-purse and many users have been using it for a long time.
870  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me a secret: any way to earn 0.1 BTC per week? on: June 10, 2017, 01:27:26 PM
the secret to get 0.1 btc is with the investment, the investment choices are good and safe is with the stock, currently at around $2800, if 0.1 btc then equal to $280 I think with your active stocks that could produce
Generally this is a very good indicator and I can even assume that $ 280 for most Bitcoin users is a huge amount of money a week. This requires a lot of effort. But if you deal not only with investing in registered trade, then these indicators can be achieved without problems and $ 280 per week are quite real things.]
871  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 10, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
I'm curious where you got that idea from

You can sell your bitcoins within a few seconds and withdraw proceeds likely as fast, though this depends which currency you withdraw to and a specific exchange where you sell your coins at. This is certainly not the case with gold. If you want to sell your gold really fast, you will have to sell it at an insane discount. If you have vaults of gold filled to the ceiling, selling it at market prices may give you a lot of pain in the ass and take weeks if not months. Now ask yourself whether gold is really more liquid than Bitcoin

Gold is easy to cash out.  I walked in to bullion dealer, stuck £50k worth on the desk and money was in my account same day.

Bitcoin exchanges require I.D for any decent volume which takes time too.

Having vaults filled with gold doesnt really apply to 99.99999% of the worlds population.  A £32k gold bar is the size of a smart phone.

We seem to have already discussed this issue

If you live next door to your dealer (or bank which sells as well as buys gold), this won't be an issue. But you can't possibly say that there are many gold dealers in every hole out there, and thus you can't claim either that gold is easy or easier to cash out in general. It may be easy just for you. In any case, Internet coverage is a lot wider than the network of gold dealers. Regarding cashing out significant amounts of bitcoins, you can verify your account beforehand, and you somehow forget to mention about issues involving cashing out a lot of gold. With Bitcoin you don't need to walk anywhere, you cash out right at your desktop
It seems to me that both Bitcoin and gold have their advantages. You can not give up gold, just because Bitcoin has ease of circulation. You want this ease is purely nominal, because only people who know what it is and who has an education in this sphere can use crypto currency. Unlike Bitcoin, gold needs understanding and knowledge.
872  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: June 10, 2017, 01:19:40 PM
Poloniex is the best site for trading and I play at bitvest.io for gambling.
Though I haven't won big amount and I always end up losing the btc I gain on gambling HAHAHA

They are having problems for the moment,  just have bad feeling about this think it will be hacked again.
It seems to me that every user now is very cautious about this project and even tries to avoid losing their Bitcoin. It seems to me that the first exit To do this, you do not need to display large soms on the accounts of these trading exchanges, but only use a specific amount to be calm that you will not be hacked and steal your goods.
873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children on: June 10, 2017, 04:33:37 AM
I'm sure that even the bitcointalk forum has a lot of teenagers in its composition. Therefore, a good part of these young people are already a little attached to the crypto currency. But in order for this to be a full-scale popularization of Bitcoin, it is necessary to introduce this into the school curriculum and the program of higher educational institutions. Only in this way will we be able to realize the question of using Bitcoin by the planet's population.
874  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crime funded by bitcoin on: June 10, 2017, 04:30:26 AM
How much can Bitcoin be tied to the criminal atmosphere.? The fact is that the world does not stand still, and even the criminal world is on. With the times, thanks to high technologies, it increases its skill levels in its business and uses everything that is available today in the field of high technologies. Thus, it is possible that Bitcoin is used for illegal actions by many people. More than once they came across information with a comma that showed that on the Internet they could sell drugs for Bitcoin. Even litigation was on this issue. Thus, Bitcoin can pay not only for drugs, But for other forbidden things. We need to be more careful and discouraged.
875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SKINCOIN - CRYPTOCURRENCY FOR eSPORTS INDUSTRY on: June 10, 2017, 04:23:04 AM
Approximately in August 2017 it is planned to launch a grandiose project of the Skin Coin exchange platform, which will enable to exchange coins for skins. Apparently this is very odious project in the world of decentralized currencies. This will clearly make life easier for players in the field of betting for electronic sports competitions, jackpots, roulettes, casinos and the like.
876  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin acting like proxy for Gold ? on: June 09, 2017, 07:12:06 PM
Bitcoin price is acting like it is related to the gold price. This is happening regardless of whether you or I think Bitcoin has or should have any inherent value.
Bitcoin may not be a wise store of wealth, but it is reaching and achieving Facebook-style dominating and recognition.
An even 1.0 Bitcoin to Gold Ratio was strong resistance for a long time, but now bitcoin has broken above it and the gold price may act as strong support.
Bitcoin has been acting like gold, not silver. And if bitcoin even began to move closer to the total market value of gold.

Gold is a money of goverments and rich people. Bitcoin is the first serious money of the internet.
In the earth exists some gold. In the universe exists much more.
In the earth exists at the time 16,381,700 bitcoins. In the universe exists nothing more! Max. supply is fix: 21,000,000 and not more.
The gold has a weight. Bitcoin has no weight - you can hold it on a piece of papier.
Gold can't be transported with a speed of the light. Bitcoin can do it.
Gold is visible for everybody - if you hold/transfer it. Bitcoin can be protected through cryptography.
Gold can be seized by the court. If you are clever - your bitcoin can't be seized.


Your arguments are very tangible, but I would like to get an answer to the question, What to do when at some point there will be no electricity or the Internet. The world has become so dangerous that every day you can expect some kind of cataclysms or even a warrior. And then what to do when high technologies can come to an end.
877  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: June 09, 2017, 07:09:01 PM
Usd is a world currency and i i think Bitcoin is not that popular to compete with usd. Regulation of circulation of Bitcoin is also not possible government would not allow it's popularity to surpass their national currency. Usd has existed for centuries but Bitcoin is there only from seven years or so, therefore acceptance of usd is way more than Bitcoin.
Agree with you mate that bitcoin has need to proved for more years or decade to be much popular, but the adoption by many country was continuous and i think it was help to make life or existence of bitcoin would be like a fiat since this is also a currency.
Bitcoin need some very long time for popularity like USD because USD is working around the world for many countries and right now we have no country with full support for Bitcoins even in near future its not going to happen but some good and positive things happening for this so we can hope this could be more in near future but cannot compete with USD
In this regard, I agree with you. The fact is that Bitcoin can not be on over prospects, unlike the dollar. For crypto currency, you need to get support at the national level of all countries and then it will be able to compete with the dollar, otherwise Bitcoin will constantly feel the problems associated with legalization.
878  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin improve the economy of a country? on: June 09, 2017, 07:06:04 PM
No, I do not think bitcoin can improve a country's economy, not much bitcoin can do to support the economy. If to boost the economy one or more people might be able, but if for one country with thousands of millions of people, that is impossible

It cannot support the whole economy of a country but it can help and improve the transactions of a country. Volumes of transactions are happening everyday in the blockchain network and for a country that is receiving remittance this is going to be a big help for the government and also for the citizens who are using bitcoin for remitting.
A country's economy is just an indication of how its citizens' economy. I believe bitcoin can help a country for a better economy, when bitcoin based start-up will be paying taxes and bitcoin users paying taxes for availing services from those start-up.

This is going to happen as we are already seeing many counties are in proposing to regulate bitcoin and bitcoin related business activities. For example, when a bitcoin accepting merchants is selling goods to people, they will be paying related taxes to government. People will prefer bitcoin payments and those particular merchants who might be offering extra discounts for bitcoin payments. So, indirectly bitcoin definitely could help a country economically.

In your post you make a few assumptions which are unlikely to come true in real life. For example, why would people prefer bitcoin payments if Bitcoin should remain "good" money while fiat "bad"? Further, why would merchants want to offer discounts while in reality they demand premiums due to all the hassle with the volatility of Bitcoin prices and the necessity to sell Bitcoin proceeds for fiat? Apart from that, Bitcoin itself is only money, so the only way it could help countries economically is by being more efficient than fiat

But that's unlikely, at least, until LN becomes a reality
Still far in this regard to reality and all because I very vaguely can understand how most people will be able to use Bitcoin in real life instead of money. This we already understand what and how, but many people are very difficult to understand what crypto currency is And how to deal with it in general. I just can not understand how, for example, older people will use Bitcoin, it's just absurd sounds.
879  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: June 09, 2017, 07:01:42 PM
The point is young people dont even have alot of capital. Nobody is suggesting you go into debt to use, invest or setup using bitcoin but just be involved as much as possible so that as a young person starting out your own growth is combined with this technology not even understood fully by the world and is also able to carry you upwards much faster then the traditional route (college, debt, etc).
   Its equal to Bill Gates dropping out of college, was that wise not really but he knew his business and he was right in the end, if you can take a reasonable risk then sure its probably fair advice take that leap and be involved.   Seems fair to me
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it it not about the capital. It is about the technology and the chance to become the innovative men in the future. Moreover, learning about bitcoin and the blockchain can give you the chance to have a good job in the real life. As you can see, right now, there are only a few people focus on bitcoin and it is a good chance for young people to fill these spots
I completely agree with you that the chance is very good, that's just the fact that a lot of young people are not acquainted with Bitcoin and do not even listen to its existence. That's when they already know whether this is an opportunity to make good money and have very decent money, then more young people will use and earn bitcoins.
880  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin provide income on line? on: June 09, 2017, 06:40:44 PM
Absolutely, bitcoin provide income on life because of patience and determination. This really helps me in financial need for those uses bitcoin.
Bitcoin just like another currency out there where you need hard work to get them and be focus on whatever stuff you do involved with Bitcoin. Although, you have real job you can treat Bitcoin as your investment in the future.
Or you can just have your 'real job' pay you in Bitcoin, there are services that will pay you out in Bitcoin, even if you just have a regular job.
They do charge some fees for it, but overall, I'd say it's worth it if you're really into Bitcoin and have the option of paying your bills with it.

Check out Bitwage if you want to know more about this.
Perhaps this is also a good resource to learn more about the crypto currency. The fact is that my initial knowledge of Bitcoin, I learned at the bitcointalk forum. Of course it seems to me that there is everything you need for a crypto currency user. I see that people become more intelligent and develop in the direction of high technologies, and we will soon be able to draw more and more information from different means or resources regarding crypto currency.
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