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8601  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 12, 2016, 05:38:30 AM
to me, bitcoin is worth more than money, since the value will rise over time and there is no 3rd parties involved
bitcoin is money and what ever the value to dollar bitcoin still money no matter what,and the value is volatile and it's will not always rising over time but also could be falling overtime since the future is really uncertain and none organziation or a government backup bitcoin

That is really going to be a good thing that bitcoin is volatile because we know that it is really volatile. Because of bitcoin's volatility it is making a lot of investors attention to be caught. Investors love to see their investments that are going to be easy to fluctuate to increase. And I would say as an investor it is really worth it for me that I knew bitcoin.

Bitcoin volatility  definitely  caught up investors  attention  because they love on moving  price of bitcoin because they could make profits with it. But still the risk on lossing or negative profits is still there. Most of us here in this forum really loves bitcoin and  really worth thats why we are here.
8602  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: September 12, 2016, 05:36:15 AM
i think its not a right time to quit trade you can hold or save your bitcoin for few months wait for bitcoin high price and I am sure that bitcoin will be more increase its price in coming few months and surely your bitcoin will be more grow up.
No, you're wrong at this point, he are not quit from trading but more a worst thing than it, he already retires from this place I think and considering from the date of OP's last activities.
might be needed for him to stay away and find other things that will keep him busy and forget everything, its normal since he is not happy with the way the trade went so quitting is his option.

Correct, we cant force ourself if we  are not happy on a certain  thing that why  he quit because  2 years trading with negative profits would be really upsetting somehow on my side. Its better to quit  that to make  more losses since you already know your trading style.
8603  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WHAT CAN I DO WITH 0.1 BTC ?? on: September 12, 2016, 05:27:53 AM
I would suggest altcoin trading, may be a good option. But you need to be careful when choosing the altcoin to invest, with regard to the tech, team, coin distribution and trading volume in the market.

It's way easier to earn at least 0.1BTC from signature campaigns, in order to double your money. I did this in a few weeks and I'm so happy now. Cheesy

True, you could really earn 0.1 btc on signature campaigns only but OP asking for his 0.1 btc on what things he could do on that amount well same as others suggested  altcoin trading would do but  you  still need to be careful on  choosing potential altcoin since there are lots of coins are just useless.
8604  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk hacked and data for sale on dark web? on: September 12, 2016, 05:25:20 AM
Those datas are from one year old hack, so if you haven't opened account before than nothing to worry about. And even possibility of anyone gonna know your real password out of that sha256 encrypted passwords is really low. However changing password if you are in list of those hack accounts is always advised.
So this is not a second one? I heard there was one last year and then there are ddos attack just two days ago and yesterday. So I thought this was a new set of mined data from this new hack job during those attacks.

Thats what im thinking too that Database  is new and  on the latest hacking  of bitcointalk website.  I do experience website down for how many hours which is  unusual since i didnt  experience in the past and  luckily i read this topic regarding of DDos  of bitcointalk and  database has been for sale  on dark web which is somehow  alarming for us users here in this forum.
A DDoS attack cannot recover any information from a website. It does exactly what the name of the attack implies, it Denies Service. No data is taken from the site. The database for sale is from the only major hack of bitcointalk which happened in May 2015.

This is correct DDos attacks cant get information on a website same as he said it Denies the service and doesnt  even get  informations. As i saw on the news the leaked database is from the  past hacking incident on bitcointalks website which  could really compromise  accounts on that time.
8605  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: September 12, 2016, 05:22:34 AM
I say bitcoin wallet or even bitcoin debit card. It makes thongs much easier and you get to be your own bank not having to rely on anything else. If something goes wrong its your fault and you won't have to pay horrible bank fees.
This is another good example. With banks, errors can be corrected and transactions can be reversed.

With bitcoin, if you incorrectly send some to a stranger's address, good luck getting it back.

I think thats  an disadvantage of bitcoin in my own view hence we  can reverse back transaction and getting back our  money would be very impossible to happen and even to track the wallet adress that you make a transfer. Well its time to say goodbye but still bitcoin transfers are fast and  also have a small tx fee.
8606  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 12, 2016, 05:20:11 AM
I think that bitcoin is not yet stable  enough to quit your job and rely on this  as a strong investment. Time will determine how this  market holds up, and if those who were  early adopters will be living the good life..

i think if we can save more fiat for future retirement day with bitcoin salary it's a good idea, or we can earn more bitcoin then use it for capital to our bussines, so we can use bitcoin as real job and earn more than last real job
We just have to be goal oriented to save for the future, it is necessary to save because we might be tired working in the future and we think of putting our own business so if we have the savings it would be easy for us.

There will really time for us to retire from our works. When that time happens, we need to have good amount of savings for leisure and vacations as well as for emergency situations. That time also, we may need some medications. That is why, we need to prepare today for our future so we will not become a burden to our loved ones.

Well I hope that is going to happen to me to that the time of retiring is going to come. But what I am thinking right now is about surviving for each day that is why I'm working hard with my daily job and as well as with bitcoin job. I just manage to do them both and don't have to give up any of them because they are good both source of income.

That is the right thing to do, if you can manage to earn from  both of them then there is no question of choosing only one, as both of them will give you higher income which will help you in future.

Having both jobs  would  do really give you decent amounts and  advantage as long you could handle it since  it would really consume your time. Just be sure that you wont  compromise your time on your family and  loves ones on doing this two things. Going full time in bitcoin would be risky as of now.
8607  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Opinion on: September 12, 2016, 05:18:31 AM

For our financial future ... Bitcoin is a good chance for our economy, what do you think
To Countries with high unemployment rate, Bitcoin opens an opportunity to trade and earn anonymously with very low capital. In my country I have met a high school student who uses Bitcoin to earn and started here in this forum. His earnings help him with his expenses. Down side is he is earning more on gambling not in straight trading.
And so we can define the bitcoin is really useful for every personality but I don't think more level than personality because will need more researching about that and in this time bitcoin is very useful for who is unemployment.

Right indeed bitcoin is very useful especially to those  people who are jobless since they could possibly earn bitcoin  with just putting some effort and time  on a front of a pc then you could actually make money. It would  possibly surpass the  amount of salary on bitcoin compared on having a day job especially on 3rd world countries.
8608  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: September 12, 2016, 05:14:44 AM
Both is good, but it's can't be compared, because you getting your profit with trading just now, investing is for people who will recive their money in future.

Just remember, trading is also an investment because you put your money into it to earn some profit out of it. Then its all the same but there are lots of investment which they differ some may gain profit for a long time or in a short time basis. You can choose freely on what investment would you like just  be careful on choosing the right one.

I only trade bitcoin with good altcoins. So if I buy the Ethereum, for example, its price drops against bitcoin, but it still rises against dollar.

Me too, i also earn bitcoin by trading it altcoins. I trade litecoins and dogecoins which have really good future. I don't trade those coins showing nowadays which most of them (but not all) are definitely scams. The only plan of the developer of that coin is to get bitcoin from traders. They just pump few times amd dumps their coin and run away.

You are correct there are lots of altcoins as of now and  its really confusing to choose a potential one, same as you said almost coins are just  scam coins which is really a waste of money.  Back to the topic trading and investing are just the same i think hence you are putting your own money  on doing trading.
8609  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: September 12, 2016, 05:12:29 AM
Just buy another 10 extra Bitcoin so that you have 17 in total, it is going to be pretty hard to try and earn another 10 Bitcoin for free.
You can also try it with gambling but I do not recommend that.
thats the best way in my opinion, you will definitely not make that much money out of doing something because it would be just too risky

But what if you can't afford buying another 10 bitcoin? There is a saying that no pain no gain. The only way to make it 17 btc from 7 btc is by investing it and taking risks. If you are afraid to lose your 7 bitcoin then try only soms few amounts at first. Amd when you are confident on what you are doing, make your capital bigger and you will earn 17 btc without knowing it.

that is not the only way!
the best way that normal people use is to get a job and work. so you can get a salary that way that you can then buy bitcoin with that salary or part of it.

i agree get a full time job in your place then you can earn a lot it is a stable job than bitcoin. make the bitcoin as a sideline dude.
if you can invest your time you can study how the alt trading works and try to read coin movements if you master this you will able to grow your 7 btc to 17 in due time.
It would be possible  to grow or reach that amount but the  you must accept the risk  because  you wont surely  make  that goal without any problems encountered and also its not really easy to choose a potential altcoin it really depends on your research to a certain coin. Some may be potential but  they pump for long time.
8610  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: September 12, 2016, 05:10:11 AM
I think btc as a salary will be way too risky, most employees could not accept it. The price is still too volatile, and if it crashes people will lose money. I do not think they will take that risk.

i agree to you price are so volatile it cant hit your exact amount of your salary which is it could be to low or to high but if we are talking that it is always too high then it could be nice like now price is rising but i think it is going down again then that could be risky as a employee.

Its really a risky thing especially if  we fully rely on our  monthly salary on our   day job and we have  already a family it would  be really an  disadvantage when we decide  to accept bitcoin as our salary. Same as others said that   the price of bitcoin would really affect  our salary rate. It has advantages and disadvantages though.
8611  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do you convince people to use Bitcoin? on: September 11, 2016, 02:50:44 PM
A lot of people are already in to the Bitcoin community but bitcoin is not yet known generally to other people. What are the things you usually say when people ask what Bitcoin is?

We generated ten things about Bitcoin that will make people believe and support the cryptocurrency, you can check it out on the link below:

Ten things about Bitcoins that will make you become a believer and supporter


We would like to hear comments and additions from you to help convince beginners or other people to embrace and use the crypto technology.


You can't convince teen/beginner to use bitcoin that fast because they need to figure it out first the things that they want to know like where the bitcoin came from and what bitcoin can do in our life , If you gonna tell them how it works then people believe and will support bitcoin currency too someday.
Well it really depends on their interest if youwould explain them about  bitcoin clearly about  the uses and benefits maybe they would somehow  got interested  it really depends on your approach but there are some people  would surely be confused on what is bitcoin since  its not been known to anyone.
8612  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What's the heck with YoBit signature campaign ?! on: September 11, 2016, 02:48:35 PM
I don't know why Yobit signature campaign participants always worrying when they can't sent btc to their ballances. This issue happens often, and Yobit everytime resolve it after few days or maximum week. It's not serious problem, just give time for Yobit team to refill their wallet again.
They never care about all of the discussion in yobit signature thread and in they mind just think about getting payment from bot, and if the amount in yobit wallet is empty the bot will automatically disable the sending balance button and I think they need for reading about the previous discussion about that.

Realtalk here, they dont  actually care about  members queries regarding  on their campaigns or even on their site but  one things for sure when we cant withdraw  our  earning on  yobit  then the wallet  is been dried up, at first i do feel shocked with this scenarion but in 2nd time i was already aware that i would really happen.
8613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: September 11, 2016, 02:46:25 PM
when i win and keep gambling and then end with dust , i got that experience once and now i always withdraw even it is only a little amount of money
This is why gambling is considered to be one of the way of earning money but in a short run since you will lose on the long run.
I don't think I will cry after I lose in playing gambling because I just bet small amount and for me gambling is just a game so why I should have cry because of this. If i lose it is my choice to play and not other people.


You are indeed very good, But I'm not sure that if you do a large amount of bet and lose you don't cry. Because all the people who do want to get gambling profits, so that if you lose you'll surely cry much less you lose in large numbers. Lost is the risk of gambling, so you should also be prepared to receive all the things we do


You would surely cry if you lost 1 btc on single bet then  you  intend to all in you amount for 10btc then you lost for sure you would cry i guess.Any huge amount or any amount that we are hoping to grow then lcu k does not favor you and you lost  then emotion would really make you cry.
8614  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: September 11, 2016, 02:43:53 PM
Is it possible to earn 1000 or atleast 100 bitcoins with trading Altcoins.If I buy some bitcoin at cheaper rate today and it's price goes up in future?Which alt you think has potential to make me 1000 btc

In my view, it is difficult to earn 1000 or even 100 bitcoins from altcoin trading, if you have big assets and invest in trading than may be it possible, but also it depend on your skills, if you know very well about altcoin trading, than may be you can earn it, otherwise i realize altcoin trading give us small profit, i never saw anyone to a make big profit from it.
There is no impossible in making money in trading altcoins, depends on your capital because you cannot project a bigger profit with less capital, a trader should be realistic enough in order for him to make the right decision on his investment and reach his goal.

You have a point, its possible on altcoin trading  since  you could eventually  multiply your money in a matter of time and it depend on your invested money. Shall we say you invested on ICO  for 100 btc then the  price when it hits the exchanges  is high then for sure big profits is there. The only  hindrance for us when we  do invest that we are scared to take too much risk on putting huge amounts since 100btc amount is no joke if you  lost it all.
8615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: September 11, 2016, 02:41:10 PM
Probably yes, because I saw my mother gambling "majong", "tong-hits", "pusoy", and etc. In my our neighborhood during my mother was here in our country. Also I saw one girl plays fruit gambling in e-games and another girl I chat in fb plays online gambling.

Well I can understand what are those type of gambling games that your mother is playing but maybe there are some members here that are going to
ask what are those tong-hits,pusoy. Pusoy is just like a game like poker simple as that. And yes, there are a lot of women loves to play that game and as well as lucky nine.

i only know mahjong that played by woman when they have a meet in club, and with two games like tong-hits and pusoy, i never heard before, maybe its like traditional gambling game.

Well i guess  i know what country you came from lol. Girls really do play mahjong too much especially those older housewives but i think that its ok because it is for their entertainment the only problem there is that if they get addicted to it.

I commonly heard this terms when you are in the philippines for sure. lol.  Agree they do really play such games  just for entertainment for themselves  hence they are not working and just staying at their house but for me its not  a good habit especially  when your wife  is  always playing with money involve for sure you would get bankrupt
8616  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to make money on bitcointalk without campaigns on: September 11, 2016, 02:39:05 PM
My name's Luan, I'm ranked as member and I was banished from YoBit campaign, any other ways to earn money from the forum?

Luan, if any campaign band you than no problem, only need to look what mistake you did, and than join again an other campaign, and do you work properly than of course you can earn good, I want to tell you, you know on any plat-forum here where you can earn free hand bitcoins, only short work is here where you earn very less amount, So stay here and try to earn in this forum it is best to earn the bitcoins.   

You are right there are lots of signature campaigns out there and   not only yobit you could always join  another campaign but first you must realize why are you being kicked from that campaign then realize it and  try to correct it  so that it future you wouldnt be kicked again if you already joined in other campaigns. There are lots of ways to earn bitcoin here  just  try to search.
8617  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: September 11, 2016, 02:35:51 PM
I like to think I'm pretty good with managing my money, I've worked in the finance industry for nearly a decade so I've learned quite a bit from other peoples mistakes. Still driving the same beat up car I bought in high school though!

Woah! Amazing! Really you have bought your car from your high school days? I can't even buy a pair of shoes when I was still in college, because I don't have source of income. But as of now, there is a proper source of income that I can be assured of. So I can say that I am good at managing my money by means of securing it daily with banks.

Well we do have  our own  ways on how  we manage our money and  how we manage our lifes. Its not the same after all but having a good management on your money would  really give you a  better  situation or future hence when the time that you would experience scarcity or emergencies  you could always have a saving that  being partitioned or saved previously because you are good on managing  your money and you always put always a part on savings.
8618  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I earn money in this forum? on: September 11, 2016, 02:33:11 PM
Signature campaign surely helps a lot of people in this forum earn some money. But you don't have to lock yourself with that, there's a lot of things that you can learn in this forum. For example, you can also do altcoin trading. Go to altcoin boards and there's a lot of people talking about coins. There are some users there who obviously knows what they are doing. You can learn from them by talking to them via PM or just read their insightful posts.

Sure, signature campaign is best to earn money from it, actually mostly member prefer to signature campaigns because it is a easiest way and also free hand way to make money, otherwise as you said, altcoin trading and investment and other more ways, they all are need money if you invest in it, than you will make money. But in signature campaigns we can only make money without any investment.

Signature campaigns and faucets,ptc sites are examples of ways on earning money without any taking risk on putting  out money on your pocket but they do require time and effort to be profitable but i would suggest purely on  signature campaigns compared to faucets and ptc which is a waste of time.
8619  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will you do if you own 21 BTC? on: September 11, 2016, 02:31:01 PM
I will use this to open my own business even if I start small I know that I can also achieve what I wanted to have in the future if I will just do work hard in my own business, once I get it in my life I will never waste time.

Yeah 21 btc is a good amount for starting a real life business and if you sell them when price is high it can be an added advantage, as its always to have real business to get regular income.

I agree with you , i would still prefer a physical business compared on having an online business since we could really handle it. If im given a chance to own that 21 btc i would surely invest it on physical business and would love to see profits coming  into my bank account or pocket. Smiley
8620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: September 11, 2016, 02:29:05 PM
The house will always win overall. If you check a popular casinos bank roll every 12 months it's likely they'll never be at a loss at the end of a calander year.

Lucky people can win though but yes, overall the house will never lose in the long run.
House is always a winner in the end of the day, there are a lot of gamblers out there that enters their house and the house is really lucky because they always earn money in the end, imagine if the house has always 1000 gamblers then they bet big amount but lose then only one person win then in the end house always wins.
because logically say that the house owner did not create charity but gambling house so for sure they will win in any how
as many gamblers always hoping that they can win good profits from the house not knowing that in the long run they are
losing because of the house edge and luck will not favor them anymore,.

What you said it correct. No gambling house want to distribute their money to players instead they invested money on site and marketing them to make money from it and in most of the gambling game only luck can bring money to players so house always got a better chance of winning at the end in gambling.

Gambling games are created to ensure that the house will win in the long run. Nobody will create games where the house has no advantage. The house has lots of money while individual players has an limited sum of money. There is an extremely high probability that an individual player will bust his capital before the house loses all their money.
Well this is  reality on gambling sites since its a business and  no owner would established or create  a business without any advantage to its players. If you  intend to play gambling then  you must be ready  on that advantage of house which would really  loss all your money on the long run.

in this business it is all about the overall winning not winning every single time. what i want to say is that the house will be the winner in the end because it is playing against a lot of players but individual players can still win and house still remain the winner overall.
but for smaller sites, they can lose if only a couple of people play there and they get lucky.

Correct, some people may even win but still the house has always the edge and has the profits. Shall we say that all people who losses  on that certain game 1  out of 10  players would only be the winner. The ratio and gap is  too  far which we could really say that  winning  on gambling sites  do have  only a smaller chance.
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