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8621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Grow my Bitcoins. on: September 11, 2016, 02:26:29 PM
I think doing signature campaigns  can let you grow your coins but it's indeed  very hard to gain a lot of btcs  with it. On the other point you have to think about the fact that  it is a good way to make  profit if you don't have capital to invest,  but this requires time.

I agree with you but still that is not going to be enough to be able to grow your bitcoins. I would suggest that if ever you have already earnings with signature campaign. You are going to start out trading by it. Because that is the only one way to grow your bitcoins but still that is going to depend on you on how you are going to be good with it.

Yeah that's how most true friends. Because if we only rely on the sign campaign then the income we get far below the standards of our needs and if indeed we want to use the bitcoin as one place to our income, then we should always be looking for ways to fold the duplicate bitcoin as you say IE trading

Diversifying your money would  surely do by a wise man since we would like to earn more. Who does not like to grow  or earn more money? No one.  If we have  decent amount on our signature campaign earnings then we must  think of  new ways on how to  grow or invest it so that we could make another source of income  besides on signature campaign alone.
8622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can i start a btc dice site with 30btc? on: September 11, 2016, 02:23:56 PM
I will like to know if i can start up a casino dice site with 30btc including bankroll.
Am looking at a site with a max profit of like 1btc.
If yes, how?
If no, how much btc do I need.
Only reply if u got ideas about this.
No trolls
Yes Bro You Can Start A Bitcoin Dice Website But For Make You Site Popular You Need Very Effective Ways Of Promotion, But If I Have 30 Btc Then I Don't Open a Gambling Website I Put My Money Into Another Project Like I Made An App.....
Well it his decision to make a gambling site but i guess 30 btc wouldnt be enough because those amount would be  only enough for the dice script. hence, there are lot needed also  to make a website and even on how you promote it would  cost you some money for sure. 30 btc is not  enough. Same as you said  if i had that money i wouldnt build  a gambling site rather i would invest it onto trading.

30 btc is little bit enough but he got get those cheap dice script and i think those site using it for now is already down or shall we say didn't got good response, so its much better for him to have a lot of budget to upgrade more things and to have more apealing site to the public and thats why he must add some money unto it so he can get a good site with good security so people could trust to play at his site.

Yes, there are lots of things to consider when you  intend to build a gambling site as you said   it must be presentable to the  potential players if they saw that its a good designed website maybe they would intend to play and also its security it must be prioritize so that  players  would be  confident on putting  up their funds  on your website also on promoting  your website which could really cost you a lot.
8623  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: How Can I Earn Bitcoins? on: September 11, 2016, 02:15:10 PM
Best way to earn bitcoin is by signature campaigns in this forum once you get a high rank. Also you can collect from faucets, ptc sites. Also try collecting altcoins and exchange them to bitcoin. You can also try mining altcoin and then to bitcoin.

I have been doing that other source that you have indicated like PTC sites. As a matter of fact, I am still doing that and there is just a change because I've been both using PTC sites that are paying dollars and now I'm into PTC that pays bitcoin. And I would say that I am just doing it if I have spare time and even not big amount to earn with it, but still good enough to have it rather than having nothing.

Yeah that's right friends, because PTC is one of the things that can make us get $ or bitcoin. But I never thought that the PTC can give us a great advantage and PTC has no advantage in a long period of time.
Ptc and  faucets are  things which are really a waste of time which could only give you very very small amounts and doesnt worth for your time and effort. I would rather find anyway  which is better and give decent rates, thats why i joined in signature campaigns luckily im earning decent amount now.
8624  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The best cloud mining site !!! on: September 11, 2016, 02:12:10 PM
Almost all cloud mining sites are  ponzi schemes, the one i trust most is  hashnest, but hashnest is very risky for  newbies in trading because the GHs  price can go down really fast.

Hashnest and all cloudmining are just scams they wont really last  long  or even sustain on the  end which  totally end up  of being scammed for sure. Thats why i didnt intend again to invest on cloudmining sites after the incident of  hashocean which is really somewhat a disaster for me.
8625  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc2x Error NaN:NaN:NaN on: September 11, 2016, 02:10:11 PM
Hello, I have a disagreement, the first time I paid btc2x.com all investors, and at one time I appear NaN: NaN: NaN and the cause can not be paid from this?



I do experience such situation same as yours thats why i leave on hyips and also i once fooled with doublers since when i was a newbie back then, but as of now   i treat all  hyips and ponzi sites are just scams  on the end. NaN Nan  situation in  btc2x are normal because they are scamming peoples money andthat money wont  given back to you. hehe
8626  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the Future of Bitcoin ? on: September 11, 2016, 02:06:56 PM
I think that in future bitcoin will be very expensive and people will use it often
Maybe yes or no because bitcoin can up or down nothing can say so until bitcoin is alive many people can earn money w/ bitcoin. So the bitcoin in the future is not sure if gonna good or bad. Because many thing will happen in the maybe bitcoin is gone or stay alive in that year.

No one can predict an exactly right thing about the future of bitcoin or anything but people do these predictions by looking at what are the processes going on right now or what else is going to occur in coming time, so seeing at those things we can predict a good future for bitcoin.
The growth of bitcoins among people is really high. Everyday minimum 50 to 70 members would be joining into this forum as per my predictions. I see so many newbies like me getting into this forum. The value of bitcoins and the benefits of bitcoins have reached every corner. Though the price has gone down a bit and being stable, it has sustained its values. Hope to have a good future. Wish that the price should go up beginning of next year and btc should bring more users.

Bitcoin adoption cannot really be stopped same as you said  it gaining  popularity day by day that pass us by but   it doesnt  even reach on some corners of the world and didnt even heard about bitcoin but  it would surely be adopted someday which would make bitcoin would be sucessful in  upcoming years.
8627  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 11, 2016, 02:04:25 PM
As long bitcoin has value its  worth to everyone, allowing people to  hedge against the fiat . So far, it also allows some people  in third world countries to actually help  their micro income  through something  on this forum.

It's true, I'm from a third world country and confirm that. Actually my bitcoin income here on this forum is not micro at all, it's not huge amount but it's nice.
I am in the 3rd world as well and I believe that depends on your needs and I can say that my income online is not enough but it can help somehow for me to enjoy a bit in my life, my income in real job do take care of my family needs and wants so I am thankful with bitcoin.

Same here i do live  on 3rd world countries and   bitcoin do really help me somehow  on having extra income  which added up on my  monthly salary. With this i could somehow save money  more on future  investment and  for emergency purposes. Thats why bitcoin is  important to me.
8628  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: September 11, 2016, 02:01:10 PM
Just buy another 10 extra Bitcoin so that you have 17 in total, it is going to be pretty hard to try and earn another 10 Bitcoin for free.
You can also try it with gambling but I do not recommend that.
thats the best way in my opinion, you will definitely not make that much money out of doing something because it would be just too risky

But what if you can't afford buying another 10 bitcoin? There is a saying that no pain no gain. The only way to make it 17 btc from 7 btc is by investing it and taking risks. If you are afraid to lose your 7 bitcoin then try only soms few amounts at first. Amd when you are confident on what you are doing, make your capital bigger and you will earn 17 btc without knowing it.

Risking your money  on investments would  be a good idea when you  really like to grow your bitcoin  in to 17btc. Its a little bit hard since it would  really requires  time and effort in able to grow you money.  Just like  on investing  on trading it would be possible. Same as other said  just try first on small amount until you  get the  trading pattern which is profitable then  thats the time you put huge amounts.
8629  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Does this site really sell mining hardware? on: September 11, 2016, 01:55:56 PM
Things I noticed about their site:

1. They don't have FAQ. When you click on FAQ link you are redirected to empty page.

2. I am not sure if they even accept bitcoin or any other crypto. There is no symbol o BTC anywhere to be found. And their "Payment" section is broken.
It basically give you description of how well they will wrap your package and no info about accepted method of payment.

3. Some basics errors, wrong links, use of basic clip arts etc.

4. They listed their address and phone number in India. If you want to check further you can call, check it further.

That site doesn't leave good impression of reputable service. I would avoid it.

These things i been noticed too, if  i do research to a websites legibility i usually  find  on FAQ and contact numbers which i didnt see on that site and also to the number given its based  from india same as you said  which  very suspicious to me. I would really not  trust  that kind of website for sure.
8630  Other / Off-topic / Re: Have you ever lost Bitcoin? on: September 11, 2016, 01:51:40 PM
honestly i lost around .3btc in my mycelium when my phone got broke and unfortunately i don't have any backup coz the address my funds got stocked is supposed to be used for 1 time only

0.3 is a big amount to loose mate, and its very disappointing to loose money in that way, as I also lost 0.15 because I deleted my wallet mistakenly and I didn't had back up for that.

Yeah 0.3 bitcoin is a huge amount, almost my whole earning until now. It takes months to earn, all the way from newbie to Senior member. There is even not just one but 3 topics about how to earn 0.3 bitcoin if I remember right.
Its a large amount i can not spend 0.3 in bitcoin maybe i can get some partial for gamble 0.01 is enough to gamble.. 0.3 is a large amount that you can do any you want or you can buy more stuffs online or convert it to fiat and eat aything you want..

Not only that beside on  spending  on stuff and food you could also use it   on  investments also. 0.3 is  a decent amount already  on  having a  investments and also there are  lots of things you could that in physical world. I lost bitcoin for about  6 btc for investing on cloudmining sites.
8631  Other / Off-topic / Re: how bitcoin is popular in your country ? on: September 10, 2016, 11:45:46 AM
Everyone know that US is most country accepted bitcoin in major area and companies and the number of company accepted bitcoin are growing daily

But that not much article or post clear out how is popuplar of bitcoin in your country

This topic let sharing to us about users using bitcoin in your country

- What they normaly do with bitcoin in your country ?
- Do you think your country will replace US for number of bitcoin users in near future ?
Bitcoin is not so popular at my country now. But I think the amount of people who use bitcoin is rise over time.  The most of new people who joining bitcoin world are youths.

Yes youths are more interested in new and innovative technology and they can grab the things very easily so its not complicated for them to understand the entire concept of bitcoins.

Well good thing here in my country that there are a lot of youths that are getting interested in bitcoin. And I knew a group of college students while they are still in college. They are able to work with bitcoin since they are good programmers they are selling their services and get paid. And that bitcoin is making them survive for the expenses in school.

Exactly, bitcoin is helping youth to earn money while they are studying, and that is also making them independent person, so they don't have to ask for money from their parents for their expenses.

True, bitcoin is  helpful to those students  out there which are earning bitcoin as an addition to their funds  to sustain their needs, You have a point  they would not bother  to ask money to their parents since they are already earning. In my country bitcoin is  somewhat known by few people but there are no shops here that accept bitcoin physically.
8632  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you trade with crypto currency? on: September 10, 2016, 11:40:38 AM
Hi there,

I've started trading a few months ago with a very small amount and it was quite effective for me. 80% of my trades are based on technical analysis and 20% on rumors, tweets, announcement, etc.

I'm curious what is the most common technique do you use for trading?

Good luck,



Yes, actually in crypto trading i also feel rumors are here, and sometime i can't think that what will be the right price of that currency which i buy it, and later on i realize nothing is happen as i think about it. So that why i remember one thing, if you have correct information about cryto currency, than you will earn money from trading.

Crypto trading is not easy as it sounds because as we can see there are lots of coins are existing as of now and  most of it are just scam coins which pump just once and dump forever which is  really a waste of money thats why  if we intend to  buy a crypto we must do some research first if  it is a potential coins.
8633  Other / Off-topic / Re: The bitcoin in daily life on: September 10, 2016, 11:34:41 AM
I've tried many times paying bills using bitcoin.. Most of my friends dont know about bitcoins and its uses..For them its more convenient using FIAT than coins..

We cant change that instantly because they got used to it. If they think it is the best choice then go. They dont know therebis a faster option and some gets a percentage of money back when you try to pay thru bitcoin.

I agree with you, its really hard to convince someone  to use bitcoin especially on paying bills since they are always using fiat and they  know that its the only way to pay bills because they are not aware about bitcoins. If  they would know it  maybe they would give a try and  know the convenience it gives.
8634  Other / Off-topic / Re: Save you Bitcoin for your (grand) child / children? on: September 10, 2016, 11:26:08 AM
i never save my bitcoins for my children because it is just a dumb idea all in all
Why are you saying like that? There is no such things or ideas, especially things about bitcoin, called dumb ideas, unless those ideas are ridiculously impossible and unreasonable. However, this idea isn’t something crazy, it’s maybe the greatest idea I’ve ever heard in this forum and I think it would be the most meaningful gift for our children.

I agree with you its not a dumb idea at all in fact is quite good to have this motivation or goal to save up some  of our bitcoin for our grandchildrens. To those people  who dont like with this idea maybe  hes to greedy enough that he would really only like to spend his  bitcoins for himself and dont mind  others to benefit it.
8635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 10, 2016, 11:08:56 AM
I did not hear until today that anyone settled in their life because of this Gambling. Yes, only people say that they made a big profit, but they do not make sure that the gambling is fixed their life. Comes to me I am not a regular gambler, and it not set my life and also not wreck my life.
what you say is true, I also have not found a happy person because of gambling. the average person gambling complained to me and ask for help to be able to gamble again, but I did not leave because I want to help teach that gambling addicts will make someone destroyed if it does not stop.

It would be still useless because for sure those addicts would  definitely  play gambling again no mater how hard  you help to convince or explain to them the possible results on playing gambling.  I do rarely see  some people  who  really  fix his life and those are people who  won on lottery since  its already considered also  as gambling.
8636  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to make money on bitcointalk without campaigns on: September 10, 2016, 11:06:26 AM
I started as a newbie also here in bitcointalk but since im a member now before that happens i read alot about bitcoin and this forum help me to fulfil that so much bitcoin discussion i read before i started to do some earning and i startes it in signature campaign where i earn bitcoin weekly from my recent campaign.

Signature campaigns is the most common way on earning bitcoin  in this  forum but  as the topic says  how to make money on bctalk without campaigns. Same as others said  you could earn from giveaways, selling your services, make lending services (too risky) and altcoin bounties.
8637  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: September 10, 2016, 11:01:32 AM
Actually everyone is learn in his own experience, your experience is may be not good with trading, But i want to say not be a personal, trading is not made for everyone, because i have also learn the lesson, from gambling and trading, both are risky and if you know that you are lucky than both gambling and trading would be suit you.

Thats true, everyones learns from its own mistakes that have been done thats  why we shouldnt quit easily especially on trading since no one makes a perfect trade on a single try everyone of  us suffer losses but  if you think that you make continous suffer from lossing trades no matter how you try then you should stop because it might that trading is not for you. Grin

Exactly, we learn from our mistake and experience but sometime we quit our field and go to the other way, but it not for successful man talk, just like he said in his thread, that he quit the trading, because only he has discourage, as we all know that trading is risky so be a man and do it again. I believe all risky fields give us lose, but it doesn't mean that you left it all.

As i saw on what OP said , hes trading already  for 2 years and the  result is still the same. 2 years time  is already long and we must  able to  get trading techniques and experience with since we are trading for  long  times which we know already  the ways  and  things to avoid. In his case maybe trading is not for him and find another investment that might suits him.
8638  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: September 10, 2016, 10:53:01 AM
It easy to save money from monthly salary because if you not spend that much then you can have what you deserve in life first thing to do is don't bye some items that you dont need. Two place and save some money everyday open bank accounta where you can save cents of money so that you can have money when needs are comming.

Thats wont work for the people with small salaries and great needed consomation , so i would suggest investing some part of the salary in profitable and trusted trading platforms.

Somewhat  you have a point that there are really some people could hardly save because the salary is just right for their needs, how would they invest if they dont have saving? As you say investment means  you need  money to start and also  trading is not an easy thing that can be  learned by others so easily.
8639  Economy / Speculation / Re: We would be 1000+ if bitfinex didn't happen on: September 10, 2016, 10:50:09 AM
Its still doesnt guarantee that  if it rise slowly it would also fall slowly. Just like what happen before on bitfinex hack, we  certainly stabilize on $670- 680 price   then suddenly drop its price because of hack, we really dont know what would happen in the future. if that incident didnt happen then  our price as of now might $700+ i guess.

$700+ sounds reasonable. OP was complaining about not reaching yet $1000+. It's quite a difference.

I am patient but the next rise will be to $10^4  (so between $5k and $49k). I don't know when it will be, but it will rise to the next order of magnitude.

That would mean either another bubble, either a continuous slow rise for years. I prefer the second.

You have a point, its just a another bubble to reach that price would  quite unrealistic to consider.  As we see the bitcoins price movement as of now its quite slow compare to previous years i guess or just me.  If this movement would continue  it might not reach  a high amount  on upcoming  years.
8640  Economy / Gambling / Re: 100% winning shot for BUSTABIT but it is for long run on: September 10, 2016, 10:46:05 AM
I beg to disagree as this strategy has failed so many times, so what OP is saying is that one can't lose 5 times in a row? Or I didn't get that... When no too long ago someone posted how he lost 14 times in a row... It is gambling for crying out loud which is based on chance and that chance is not a respecter of the numbers of winnings or losses... Its just chance
chance or luck but still we can't say what will be the results 5 lose in a row is not impossible but if you can manage to move away much early i think OP can really win some [profits because of the multiplier that he use just needed to make proper entry and timing when to start and when to go out.

But still the  method of OP would surely be busted  on the long run since house edge do always win. 5 lose in a row in bustabit is not impossible since i  used the same  strategy  what OP said but  i did experience   7 lossing streaks on 1.1x  betting style. Maybe  OP is just to lucky that he didnt end  up like me.
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