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8661  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: September 27, 2021, 09:58:10 PM

If David Pugliese said it it must be so.

btw five merits for the first one that figures out why i wrote that.
8662  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread on: September 27, 2021, 09:52:54 PM
- Regarding the bitnodes data:

I use bitnodes to validate that my node is reachable and I get the following response (all good)"

X.X.36:8333 /Satoshi:0.21.1(FutureBit-Apollo-Node)/

The response shows that everything is  good. However is there a way to change the FutureBit-Apollo-Node string? I don't think I want to advertise what software the node is running as to reduce the attack vector.

I am using the firewall to prevent all communication from other ports to the miner, but still there's potential risk that someone could try to exploit bitcoind through the open port in an attempt to break out to ubuntu root.

Are my fears unfounded? Thanks

(also on the same line is there a way to update ubuntu to the latest security patches? I don't want to run an update and risk breaking everything. The miner runs like clockwork so the less I have to mess with it the better.

Also, should I holdoff on installing TOR and LND on my own? how far is the next update :-)?

Finally I think I want to replace the 500GB for a TB, any recommendations on which one to get that will provide the performance and years of worry free operation? :-)

Thanks, I really like the miner, it's awesome!

J

. get a crucial i swapped to one it is good.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089DNM8LR?

94 bucks and you are done for years to come.
8663  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: September 27, 2021, 09:12:00 PM
BTW to be clear I believe in the vaccine but I would like the real numbers not the fake mis used ones they gave.

More so masks are pretty much the best thing to come of this.

I have asthma I have a source for 3 ply cotton masks with a silver thread weave throughout anyone that understands scince would want them.

Also all the ones that think it is a devil plot would want them as sliver stops both vampires and werewolves which are tools of the devil.

So simply get a silver laced cotton three ply mask and you are a winner.

As an asthmatic the mask are very helpful for my allergies. I do know some poor souls are prone to panic attacks an start to pant thinking they can't breath .  So they are unlucky losers as that can't wear a silver laced masked.

We should feel sorry for them as they are too paranoid to vax or max and very likely get fucked by the system one way or another.
8664  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: September 27, 2021, 08:57:49 PM
Somebody please tell me what happened to the seasonal flu, the last two years. Miraculously gone from the face of the Earth?
COV is a political game, end of story. When did any government really care for it’s citizens? Pfff, it’s all about power.

Also why do I get the impression that the elites are going to use China as the front/escape goat, Japan as the financial capital, US for the heavy fighting and production - drinking mojitos in Australia and New Zealand from the safety of their bunkers - whilst at the same time the rest of the world gets consumed by fighting off each other, in a civil world war manner?

So if it was 2 bad flu seasons back to back than 200000 of the 700000 deaths were flu still leaving 500000 as covid

making it 500,000/200,000 or 2.5 times as bad as a bad flu season.

So like I just mentioned not important.  What is important is why the fuck did the government lead with 99.2% number when 99% were not vaxed.  All the numbers need to be from May 1 on and I bet you the true safety factor drops to my 4 to 1 guess.

They are already admitting the the 124 to 1 safer or 99.2 to 0.8 is not true

they reduced it to 7.333 to 1 or  88 to 12

try saying this in face book and see what happens

and extrapolate that if you remove all Ja 1 to Apr data the numbers are 80 to 20 or 4 to 1  I bet you you get deleted and you should not.

This is the real problem If you are going to rip the vax my facts are not false and they show intentional deception by the leaders of the USA  both left and right. and the MSM both left and right.


This sounded a bit rude. sorry

I can't prove they are under counting the flu and over counting covid.

but they gave the 99.2 number so that I can prove and I can clearly show the methodology used to get the number is wrong
8665  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: September 27, 2021, 08:10:55 PM
A lot depends on your own body.  




Okay at face value 100,000 is a bad flu year

so in 2 years 200,000 would be back to back bad flu years. so at worst this was 700,000 in two year so it is 3.5 times as bad as the flu.

Note I said at worst.

the reality is one could argue over counted and one could argue under counted .  I spent a lot of time checking numbers

It could be 500000 not 700000 or it could be 1,000,000 not 700,000

I doubt that it is 500,000 and I doubt it is 1,000,000 some states over count some states under count so the 700,000 is likely close enough.


No need to argue this point of counting the dead. More people  died in 2020 and 2021 than 2019. Facts bare that out.

My big issue is the first suscces count number was this 99.2% of the dead were not vaxxed and only 0.8% were vaxed.

This was based on 2021 Jan 1 and on data and was released in April.  It used wrong methodology.  It never shouuld have reached the public.  why because

Jan 1 99 percent of the country was not vaxed
Feb 1 90 percent of the country was not vaxed
Mar 1 85 percent of the country was not vaxed


So using data counting that number is misleading.

you would think you are 99.2/0.8 = 124 to 1 safer vaxed than not vaxed

well now the numbers have dropped to about 88% not vaxed  dead to 12% vaxed dead.

They still include the data from first 3 months so basically the tru safety of vaxed vs vaxed is not 88/12 = 7.333 to 1

It is likely 80 to 20 or 80/20 = 4 to 1.

now no one writes this anywhere that I can find or see. It pisses me off a lot.

I think if you understood at best the vax makes you 4x safer from death then no vax vs 124 to 1 safer you would see the point of the anti vax people.  

I am not making up the 99.2-0.8 number the 88-12 I heard on a few shows.

My 80-20 number is me eliminating the first 3 months of 2021 which should not count


So now a state like NY is going to fire 100,000 health care workers refusing to take the vax and my math shows 4 to 1 at best .

I am less pro vax each and every day that passes.  I knew this was a real issue when they talked 99.2 to 0.8 in April
8666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I buyd 3060 ti and i am at total loss on: September 27, 2021, 07:31:43 PM
to the newbie the older 3060ti are full speed miners at 56-61mh or 3.00-3.60 usd a day

the new 3060 ti are lhr they are not full speed and you make less cash.

there is a software that unlocks them to 70% that would be 2.10 to 2.60 a day

look for the software in this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432704.0

good luck with the unlocking and let us know what the card does unlocked.
8667  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: September 27, 2021, 07:14:52 PM
...
s19 sold at 2500 when we got the first one

it is marked up to 9000 or so to reflect the profits it makes.

I know they are making a huge amount of $$$ on a $9000 since it used to sell at $2500

So the question is how much did the $9000 unit cost them to build same as the $2500 unit

not likely I expect they had to over pay a bit for the parts.
...
The issue to understand here is that for an extremely long time BM has sold miners at around the projected return on them without any costs running them. Nothing to do with the production costs.

i.e. BM mines (and cloudmines) with their miners and also sells them for the future BTC they expect to make (or probably more) so they are effectively getting all the blocks the miners sold 'would' mine in the future, right now in advance with no running costs.

So basically you'd never have any idea of the cost of production based on the sell price.

The majority of the hardware in the miner would probably be less than $100, but someone with current experience in wafer production would have to chime in with the BM13xx mining chip costs on top of that.

Yes I agree which is why building the gear in vietnam or Malaysia to avoid the Chinese 'ban' likely won't make the gear cost a lot more. They ratchet the price of gear up when mining is good and they drop it when mining is bad. So I suspect that the 2500 usd price when mining was bad still made $$ for them. Since they simply could have held the gear in storage till mining got better. Based on the s17 which is similar to the s19 in physical size. They got well under 2 k with it during tougher mining times.

It will be interesting to see if all miners are made in "vietnam" in the next six months. As the Trump 'tax' is now the biden 'tax'

or should I say the 'usa' tax on china



btw the diff moves on at 100.29 which is okay by me

we are 897 blocks in and 1119 to go.
8668  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S9K where and what to use to mine for best results. on: September 26, 2021, 11:09:30 PM
You may be best on a  PPS+ pool something like viabtc.com

Or you could take your chance with one of the local Bitcointalk pools such as Kano.is they have not hit a block in some time but user count on the pool is small so if they were to hit a block and you have been mining there you may just earn more than you would on PPS pool but again it's timing you may need to hash for sometime before the pool hit's another block.

My choice would be either Kano.is (possible long term mine for better reward)

Or

ViaBTC for daily gains of BTC

Hope this helps.




I suggest six units on viabtc and one unit on kano pool
8669  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: September 26, 2021, 08:49:49 PM
Current Pace:   102.3391%  (572 / 558.93 expected, 13.07 ahead)

We dropped

Quote
Current Pace:   99.8402%  (757 / 758.21 expected, 1.21 behind)

It does seem like some miners can't do with current prices which is great news, I am not expecting a drop by any means, but not going up much is probably all that I could hope for from now on.

Quote
I am in NJ. so the 10000 becomes 3000 more for trump tax or maybe Biden tax and NJ sales tax is 7 percent or 700
10000
  3000
    700
13700


Vietnam and boom no import tax.

I am afraid the cost of the mining gear will be higher than or equal to the tax reduction you get, I highly doubt Bitmain can afford to sell you the same gear for the same price outside of China, the 10k gear in China will most likely cost them more to make which will be enough to offset the tax thing, moving outside of China won't make mining gears Cheaper in the U.S, it will just make them more expensive for the rest of the world.



s19 sold at 2500 when we got the first one

it is marked up to 9000 or so to reflect the profits it makes.

I know they are making a huge amount of $$$ on a $9000 since it used to sell at $2500

So the question is how much did the $9000 unit cost them to build same as the $2500 unit

not likely I expect they had to over pay a bit for the parts.

Also the $9000 unit is a 100th unit the $2500  unit was 110th

I do agree it will cost them a bit more to build it out of china then inside china.

but they already have a huge markup at the 9000 price note 9300 price not 9000

 https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020210920124332765Ffe211v80644
8670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 26, 2021, 01:16:17 AM
From 42K to 48K or from 42K to 30K ?

70k by Jan 1
8671  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Buying older ASIC-Miners and run them with cheap energy? on: September 25, 2021, 11:30:22 PM
Hi,

I am quite new to all of this so please excuse some dumbness in the question.

The situation: I have a new Photovoltaic installation here in Germany. While electric power regularly costs about 25ct/KWh you only get less then 7ct/KWh for the power you send back into the grid. One could say it is completly wasted. On a normal day I normally have a power surplus of 10 to 30 kWh.

So mining came into my mind in order to do something reasonable with the power. At first I used a gaming PC with a RTX 3090 and abot 98MH/h but I am afraid it will burn down the graphics card quite quickly. So I wonder if it makes sense to buy Antminers from older generations cheap on ebay and put them online, when there is surplus power only. Due to the nature of solar power it is sometimes a lot, sometimes nothing. The good thing is that I can put them into the cellar where they may heat as they want and noise is also no problem.

Now the questions:
  • Is it possible to remote control the miners in order to siwtch them on/off depending on the available power? (Using batteries ist much to expensive)
  • Will older miners mine current bitcoin at all? (I think I read about changed algorhytms which may hinder them)
  • Is there an easy way to calculate if a miner mines more than the 7ct/KWh that I would get by just propagating the energy back to the grid?

Thanks in advance
Ron

okay if you own the 3090 gpu rig simply learn to clock it lower.

a single card rig burns about 350 watts 24/7 or 8 kwatts a day.

buying any asic gear would be kind of dumb if you still own the gpu rig.

just an opinion not written in stone.
8672  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 25, 2021, 10:52:12 PM
I've never understood how Raoul Pal could be such a fan of altcoins.

Raoul Pal is absolutely NGMI. Dude's portfolio is something like 5% BTC, 70% ETH, and 25% other, IIRC.

oh an eth freak fuck him. 70% eth

jack ma leader of bitmain on of china’s richest people is poof vanished for months.

bitcoin is doing okay.

if mr v vanishes i believe eth will tank to sub 1000 in under a week
8673  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 25, 2021, 04:26:03 PM


The Dude back out of forced sleep…. First thing, check the WO

Or almost first thing, maybe after 2,3 calls and a good meal, sober 16hours I think

Was hungry AF

What happened to you?

https://www.hartstichting.nl/hart-en-vaatziekten/behandelingen/ablatie

kind of this thing


I hope you are doing well again after your ablation inspection/treatment, although it has a 90% recover rate.

Maybe consider drinking less alcohol for some time and change your diet in combination with jogging ore more workout in the gym to strengthen your hearth to prevent a possible relapse.

Stay save, treat your body in a healthy manner you have many years to come.


true true, but sports and jogging etc is under good control and a daily thing ...

cheers

you don't take stimulants do you?

  I have had a few friends flutter their heartbeats.  
All of them that are still alive stopped coke, lowered caffeine  etc.
The ones that kept doing the coke all had massive heart attacks and are gone.

My family's heart genes are fairly good. Most men in my family die from prostate cancer.

    But if you are getting heart fluttering you will need to do some changes.
  I spend 30 minutes on the stationary bike 3 times a day after each meals .
 I do my blogging and posting on an iPad it has done a lot for my health and weight.
8674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Galax 3060 12G, how to figure LHR or not on: September 25, 2021, 11:53:43 AM
At the moment

all  new 3090 are good

3080 fe   = good
3070 fe   = good
3060ti fe = good


If you order an hp omen with the 3080 or the 3070 or the 3060ti you get a good fe model with full hash

3080 fe = about 90 depends on cooling

3070 fe = about 58 depends on cooling

3060 ti = about 56 depends on cooling

the 3060ti in the model below is good

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-5800x-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-1tb-ssd-jet-black/6454567.p?skuId=6454567

the 3080 in the model below is good
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-5800x-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-1tb-ssd-jet-black/6454558.p?skuId=6454558

same goes for these alienware
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/alienware-aurora-r12-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-256gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-lunar-light/6455826.p?skuId=6455826



https://www.bestbuy.com/site/alienware-aurora-r12-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i9-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-1tb-ssd-lunar-light/6459578.p?skuId=6459578


now I have purchased all of the above all had good fe models

but the Alienware must have the gpu removed as the gear over heats cooling sucks.

the omen were able to mine

If you  want a decent card look for the rtx a4000 and the rtx a5000

this is a good card

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255149549570?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284462350597?



I now have 8 a4000
MY partners have 6 =5 = 11 A4000

We got them around $1167 tax and shipping

price has drifted to 1300-1500

Those ebay sellers are not vetted but the price if you won the auction is kind of okay

new egg has the a4000 at 1399 plus tax and shipping or about 1500 which is 333 more then I paid for mine
8675  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: September 25, 2021, 11:26:35 AM
as seen below the diff has risen as we all know the diff was as high as 25.01. so any diff rise right now could be old gear.

My partners and I have $40,000 in gear on order with bitmain due to ship in Nov. So we do have some concerns.

This is a complex issue since other coins use non ASICs ie gpu's will this cause a simple shift to gpu mining of other coins?


diff went up a bit

Quote
https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator ...

Latest Block:   702139  (33 minutes ago)

Current Pace:   102.3391%  (572 / 558.93 expected, 13.07 ahead)

Previous Difficulty:   18415156832118.24                            
Current Difficulty:   18997641161758.95                            
Next Difficulty:   between 19247869567062 and 19518733273055
Next Difficulty Change:   between +1.3172% and +2.7429%
Previous Retarget:   last Tuesday at 10:12 AM  (+3.1631%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   October 5, 2021 at 2:31 AM  (in 9d 19h 9m 56s)
Next Retarget (latest):   October 5, 2021 at 6:28 AM  (in 9d 23h 6m 21s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 13d 16h 19m 12s and 13d 20h 15m 36s
...


Hmmm maybe this is a move to help asic builders.

We all know USA is taxing the shit out of asic gear  a 10000 dollar s19 ends up being 13000 and defending on the state yo live in add uo to 1300 more .

I am in NJ. so the 10000 becomes 3000 more for trump tax or maybe Biden tax and NJ sales tax is 7 percent or 700
10000
  3000
    700
13700

make bitmain 'leave' china

that 10000 just adds nj sales tax and is  10910

So by making the building of gear not legal in china   all that import tax vanishes.

China could simply  let it be built in China on the down low ship it to a nearby country such as

Vietnam and boom no import tax.

Just saying a good way to get back at the USA

It could ship to Hanoi as they have a nice port.

The fun continues

BTC is 42,400 at the moment.
8676  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: S19 repeated fan failures on: September 25, 2021, 01:48:24 AM
At op try joining viabtc.com pps+

pays flat rate per th every day.  about 30 cents a th or 30 bucks a day for s19

steady predictable payout.

viabtc.com 

8677  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2021, 03:28:06 PM
I'm just curious how this will age. China was quite good with Bitcoin, they had a thriving mining business and exchanges. They scared away Binance and they scared off the miners. I wouldn't be surprised if they regret all this 10 years from now when they can't go without Bitcoin anymore.

Meanwhile, they own $1.1 trillion in U.S. debt. They must love inflation!

Reuters, 24 Sep 2030:
- El Salvador increases existing loan to China by another massive 10BTC.
- Meanwhile US President Michael Saylor has requested the arrest of the corpses of wanted criminals Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi.
- Christine Lagarde to serve 200 years in prison for unsuccessfully attempting to block Bitcoin roll out around the world. Investigation reveals she was a BTC hodler all along.
- Pfizer issued with a 200 BTC fine over unsafe Covid 19 vaccinations in children. Reports of Pfizer seeking bankruptcy deal with president Saylor.
- Disgraced former Tesla owner Elon Musk reported to be drawing Shiba Inu pictures with crayons in his insane asylum cell.

i like the one about musk
8678  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Help Making S19 Quieter on: September 24, 2021, 01:53:32 AM
several s19 units is 10kwatts.

as 3 x 3.4= 10.2 kwatts this is around 45,000 btus.

I have a 100,000 btu furnace to heat my home it runs under three hours a day on cold winter temps like 20f.

my point is you will struggle dumping heat if three are in a small space.
8679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: September 24, 2021, 12:01:45 AM
What would you charge someone to cover the cost of running a GPU mining rig at your place?

This fee should cover basic maintenance, upkeep and profit switching, cost for management software (HiveOS, Awesome Miner, etc).

And should this fee include electricity or would you make that a separate fee?

I'm not looking to do this on a large scale, just running a rig or two for a friend that is pretty computer illiterate, and doesn't have the space to do it himself.

Okay a lot of ways

he provides the rig
you do everything else

split the coins

do the math on the idea above.

It would favor you since eth is very profitable .

You could do

30-70
40-60

50-50. we do this with the big mine but it has tons of sha 256 which make less per watt then the gpus.

60-40
70-30

40-60 is likely fair.

40% for you and 60% for him

I know you know how to do the math. I am not  sure how cheap the power is for you.



8680  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: September 23, 2021, 11:45:44 PM
pace went from 96.2 to 98.4
I'm sure it's just a coincidence but it's the third time in 4 adjustments that we see a significant drop right at the start.

Can't speak about the other 3 epochs, but for this one, I tend to believe that the 10% price increase had a major effect on this, 2 days ago when the price was at 39k-40k the pace was well before 96 (I believe it was at 91) and then it started rising as the price kept moving up, which means there is a good possibility that many miners are mining at the edge of being profitable.

The other possible scenario which is more likely would be the automated overclocking/underclocking, with all the available tools today, miners can set their miners to mine at say 70w/th when prices is above x, and then drop to 50w/th when the price is below x (the latter will result in a less hash rate), the over/underclocking effect is real, personally, I have just about 15% of my total hashrate setting on the sidelines waiting for mid-October, those will come online with exactly 3 clicks.



yes my s17 do 40th at 1000 watts or 53th at 2000 watts a few clicks and they move.

I do move them up and down more for heating issues than anything else but they shift.
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