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8681  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 5 years from now on: April 04, 2014, 05:12:09 AM
I doubt it will just crash outright. Prob will either slowly go down or rise again

Looking at the order books at BTC-E, It will take a dump of hundreds of thousands of BTCs to crash the currency. Not likely.

The only people who can do that right now are Satoshi and Keeples
Possibly Pirate and Tradefortess but the first two are unlikely to do that
Satoshi since why would he now
Keeples can't being watched to much
The other two below possibly if Pirate didn't liquidate or TF
8682  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next? on: April 04, 2014, 05:10:11 AM
Here is good news for Russia:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-04-03/japan-readies-to-turn-back-on-some-of-its-nukes

Nuclear fuel is Russia's 3rd most important source of Forex, after crude and gas. Last year, they exported almost 40b USD worth of nuclear fuel. If this news is true, that amount will increase.  Grin

Well after that reactors collapse can't blame them for wanting to diversify their industries of course it costs them a lot more to do so happy they are putting them online again

That’s progress, albeit tiny: Three years after the earthquake, 98,000 people remain living in temporary shelters.

I think they call that a house by now lol.
8683  Economy / Securities / Re: This is the story of your loss. on: April 03, 2014, 02:33:21 AM
Like, for example, the average market value of S.DICE (0.0037) vs. the buyback price (0.0035).

You're forgetting ~0.007 in dividends. Name's Dice. Satoshi Dice.

I'll credit Havelocks passthru to not losing any money on that as well guess btct and bitfunder both had one as well
8684  Other / Off-topic / Re: The hoverboard has become a reality! on: April 02, 2014, 11:27:37 PM
Pre-Orders will be taken in bitcoin only. With money back guarantee*.

I feel like this is a BFLTM Moment who knows maybe they will refund with fiat instead when the price goes up a few scales haha
8685  Other / Meta / Re: Top Posters [UPDATED CHARTS] on: April 02, 2014, 11:24:55 PM
Hehe, yep some of these posters have a lot of time on their hands, it would seem... Grin

One can dream about getting to those levels of course they started in 2011 so its not really a fair comparison to 2014 and 2013 XD
8686  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm All In - Sold My House! on: April 02, 2014, 11:24:12 PM
I don't want to be a jerk here but I'd just like to point out for 1-2 pounds of drugs sold in 2011 one could own OP's House.

That's funny because its true unless they stayed around and got their coins seized by the FBI lol
8687  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Peace Prize on: April 02, 2014, 11:23:16 PM
What has he done to get so much attention?

Ever heard of the Edhi Foundation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edhi_Foundation

This looks like a worthy cause
I wonder if its because of where he is that they have these bias
Should be a worldwide thing not just a Obama has a nicer face than this guy or hes in Pakistan lets not piss off Israel type of issues
8688  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining and Solar Electricity on: April 02, 2014, 11:18:42 PM

It can be feasible the problem is that as difficulty rises profits invariably fall so they will need to upgrade their hardware every few months to maximize the profitability of doing so

That said free electricity and a miner can beat selling it back to the system.

As for coins minted depends on the hashing power

The difficulty variable is tough for me since most of these concepts behind BC are fairly new.  As i understand it the problem is multi-fold;
1. New more powerful systems coming into the market (if I understand correctly, that curve is getting less steep)
2. Commercial operators coming online with massive amounts of hashing power.
3. The code itself?  Or does that go more to BC per block.  (something about 2016)

If I understand the challenge correctly, the "life" of a rig could be extended using an APP that turns it on and off based on difficulty.  Am I misunderstanding "difficulty"?

Additionally, I would assume that most homeowners would not want to purchase the rigs (some would), but I would propose that unused rigs (those in an area where it's no longer profitable) are leased to the homeowner.  In this setup both the hardware owner and the "host" would share in the profits generated.

Well In regards to 1.
It is a relationship to Moores Law where as price goes up processing power increases
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law
By extension Bitcoin mining is also seeing this trend where we are moving chip size down in mm scales and getting more efficient miners
The curve is getting less steep but each generation brings more hashing power to the network so it likely will not decline any time soon

2. There are commercial operators coming online the ones I am aware of are Asicminers franchised units and Petamine as examples not sure when they will come online though.

3. Bitcoin Halving Days we already had one a while back the next one should be 2017 although it might be a bit early if the miners process transactions a bit faster on average than 10 minute blocks
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply

If I understand the challenge correctly, the "life" of a rig could be extended using an APP that turns it on and off based on difficulty.  Am I misunderstanding "difficulty"?

I guess you could turn it off based on difficulty and profitability but it makes more sense to just mine the thing until it reaches its lifespan then move it to alt coins that use the same script as bitcoin miners.

Leasing might work best should contact Friedcat that might be a more profitable idea Smiley
8689  Economy / Securities / Re: [Havelock] RentalStarter - A Midwest Real Estate Investment Company on: April 02, 2014, 11:12:33 PM
Personally, I like backing a company that is based in Bitcoin.  I believe that the value of Bitcoin will continue to rise. 

It's not a company thats based in Bitcoins. It owns property, which is unrelated to Bitcoins. It should be fully invested and have no cash other than for contingencies, future investments etc.

If you want to bet on Bitcoin rising hold Bitcoins. This is Fiat investment (nothing wrong with that) that just happened to raise it's money through Bitcoins.

Pretty much the optimal point of this company would be to liquidate Bitcoin assets at higher prices and then buy back Bitcoins from rental revenues at lower prices at least I think that is how it should work.

A big part of that is also finding good properties of course
8690  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Top Saudi Cleric: The Sun Revolves Around The Earth… on: April 02, 2014, 11:11:10 PM
The Flat Earth Society (also known as the International Flat Earth Society or the International Flat Earth Research Society) is an organization whose aim to further the idea that the Earth is flat instead of an oblate spheroid. The modern organization was founded by Englishman Samuel Shenton in 1956[1] and was later led by Charles K. Johnson, who based the organization in his home in Lancaster, California. The formal society was inactive after Johnson’s death in 2001 but was resurrected in 2004 by its new president Daniel Shenton.[2]

The ideas argued by the society are widely viewed by accomplished scientists as pseudoscientific.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society

Silly people.
Nothing "revolves" around anything. It's all flat.  Grin

I guess we can extend this question is the Universe Flat or is the Universe Circular

Also not quite sure but are Galaxys Flat or Circular or a bunch of weird shapes ?
8691  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 5 years from now on: April 02, 2014, 11:09:18 PM
Bitcoin will die off in less than a month. It's outdated, it's old, practically pointless unless you're a investor...

New Alt coins will surface that are fully anonymous, and makes mining easier than it is now.

Care to place a bet on this sir? Altcoins aside.

We can use an escrow that we agree upon.

An even money bet:

Min bet size 0.01 BTC

Max bet size 1.00 BTC

we will use this price: https://bitcoinaverage.com/#USD

If Bitcoin price goes <=$300 between now and the 2nd May 2014 12:00:00 UTC you get the pot.

If Bitcoin price remains >$300 between now and the 2nd May 2014 12:00:00 UTC I get the pot.

You talk the talk, but will you walk the walk?




That seems like a good bet for you g4c Smiley
Nice call-out ha-ha
8692  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Song are you Listening To? on: April 02, 2014, 11:08:14 PM
Banks - What You Need (The Weeknd cover): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk81763n-Sc

Looking forward to a full length album. Always said she was like a female Weeknd.

Yeah Smiley this is sweet sound! Smiley

Thanks for sharing this one is really worth listening!

That one seems like an interesting song so join you in the thanks
8693  Economy / Economics / Re: China Banning BTC. Any thoughts for the soul especially the mind? on: April 02, 2014, 11:06:40 PM
china can't be banned, china people are smart, even after ban they will still trade

That is very likely it is just the financial institutions who can't speculate on it that will not be allowed to
8694  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Overview of Signature-Ad Campaigns on: April 02, 2014, 11:04:32 PM
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8695  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm Out on: April 02, 2014, 11:01:13 PM

Thanks for that looks like  a neat little article  Wink
8696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia Invades Ukraine. Whats next? on: April 02, 2014, 10:58:40 PM
http://rt.com/news/nasa-suspends-relations-roscosmos-961/

Well... That's a shame, no more plutonium-238 for NASA. Roll Eyes


I kind of forgot about that connection
So can NASA still go to space if I recall correctly they killed the Rocket Program decided to rely on Russian Soyuz and Space X and private industries are still working on space technologies

Three Russians, two Americans, and one Japanese astronaut are onboard the International Space Station (ISS).
Well at least our astronauts and cosmonauts are above blaming each others on country problems Smiley
8697  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price vs. hash rate? on: April 02, 2014, 10:56:16 PM
Higher difficulty -> higher each BTC cost of production -> higher BTC/USD price.
Therefore if the difficulty will continue rising, the price will catch up almost certainly!

That seems about right since part of the price of bitcoin aside from services and utility is the amount of electricity miners use to create the bitcoins and build up the network
8698  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm Out on: April 02, 2014, 10:54:41 PM
what....you don't see how powerful BTC is that's it got the world powers running scared. The more Govs try to ban, hinder and tax BTC the brighter BTC's future and the more GOVs consign themselves to irrelevance.

and they can't ban BTC. Also there will be plenty of Chinese GOV officials buy BTC. Think of them as extra loud FUD.



Running scared?  Delusional or denial.  You pick.  





Agreed, market cap is still teeny weeny.

Lots of room to grow, which is nice.

That's a pretty neat chart I see its a coindesk one but can you link to the article?
8699  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't we see US$ hyperinflation? on: April 02, 2014, 10:53:50 PM
And if we look at the interest rates, I doubt you are going to see inflation any time soon.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/current/default.htm

Then they run the risk of deflation like the Japanese Yen strangely enough
Depends on how much people borrow I guess
8700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Operation Shitcoin Cleanout and Clean Up Has Begun- Join the Revolution on: April 02, 2014, 10:52:40 PM
So out of curiosity how many new coins have been launched since this thread was started
Kind of curious how the alt coin release market is doing without checking the alt coin section too often
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