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8741  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the government really scary? on: June 24, 2018, 05:16:33 PM
I dont think government is scary.We all know that there are some government implementing strict policy towards cryptocurrency, some reason is because they are just protecting the economic growth of the country and some are for interior motive.But how come we will get scared to them they can never control us in the first place and gladly they can never track down our accounts here in crypto if you are just being careful of every actions you made.
It would be good if what they are actually protecting is economic growth and if that is what they really want to achieve, we won't be seeing governments coming up with very strict policies or trying to ban cryptocurrencies. Nevertheless, the thing is that they should know already that being a decentralized environment that has really gone viral; it is really hard for any government to control anyone and with that, being scared is not even an option.
8742  Economy / Economics / Re: What i believe will come on: June 23, 2018, 12:17:30 PM
Well, the beginning of banking really puts interests of people first before anything else. Nowadays, it has become an institution that takes your money to be invested on something and when it accumulates an income they will gove you chump change from it. I know crypto currency will wipe it all clean. Then again it will take time since fiat has been with us for ages
Yeah, with cryptocurrency and the way things are going, I am sure that period where banks always put people first before their own selfish interest is still coming. A time will come when I believe banks will definitely come up with several incentives all in the name of trying to attract lost customers. It might be too late, it may not, but however it is, it will bring huge competition to the banks and then make them try all means to keep making things work.

Active people will always look to the future. They always see the blue in their eyes. They believe the good things will come but they also want to have wonderful things for their beliefs.
You mean bitcoiners by active people ? We are in middle of evolution of science and technology which may land the human race into another planet also where bitcoin might be a prime mode of payments also. Hence get ready. (Assuming myself as an active person as I am a bitcoiner).
8743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell now and save some little of your money. on: June 23, 2018, 07:20:57 AM
I rather hold than selling now because I am for long term investment. If you sell now I think after that you will feel regret in selling early with huge lose. Holding is better anyway I think the growth in bitcoin is near.
That is basically the idea and anyone who is doing otherwise now without the skills to trade is going to be taking a huge risk. Yes, the market may still fall a little lower, but traders know what to look for in case things get the other way instantly. This kind of selling decision at this point in time makes a lot of investors panic unnecessarily and that to me is their fault.

Holding on and looking at what the future brings is what counts as not everyone can be a trader obviously. When prices are testing $6000 levels strength on support, I believe we must go for buying more as selling right now may end up in regretting when market may fail to break the strong $6000 levels.
8744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price December 2018 on: June 23, 2018, 04:38:23 AM
I do not think anyone will be able to predict exactly what will happen at the end of the year. but we do have to speculate and always be patient with optimism that the price is likely to rise compared with now.
Yes, no one can actually predict anything, but I am actually envisaging $15k by December and nothing more. Before then we would have got way lower than we are now and that would be the first recovery move somehow. From July 1st week or sooner than that, it means by last week of June also has more probabilities to show sharp recoveries in bitcoin prices.

I think it's better to wait for the time by doing the job, for example by following a gift campaign or something that can generate income. it's better to do that than just be quiet by waiting until the end of the year.
The things however is to just take advantage of these lows now and wait to see how that ends. One thing I am sure of is that anyone who is buying now is making a great move for the big move in the long run.
8745  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you think will happen in august ? on: June 22, 2018, 06:54:46 PM
Hello, what do you think will happen in august ? Now is it a good time time to buy, I have some altcoin like exrnchain, eos, litecoin I think this will boom in august, what do you think ?

Hopefully mate, but in reality it's hard to expect. We all know how unpredictable is cryptocurrency specially bitcoin, because of its very high volatility of its market that can cause of the dump and rise of its price in just a few moments. But i'm still thinking positive about bitcoin and i don't lose hope with it, because i really believe on its ability to create a greater value in the future. And hopefully you too.
Yeah, when August comes we will get to see what happens but at this stage nothing is predictable. Although, I have the feelings that some altcoins are going to experience rally by August but I am not expecting there would be so much to expect with bitcoin but during this rally bitcoin might be in a short term uptrend and consolidation. Buying some of the altcoin with prospect now will actually be a superb move anyway for those who may be looking forward to at least compensate themselves with the current downtrend.
8746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dont Buy BTC Expensive, Wait. on: June 22, 2018, 02:51:38 PM
Dont Buy BTC Expensive, Wait. Whale want to sell you Expensive BTC  now, wait and buy BTC cheaper.
I don't think that the bitcoin is going to be cheaper than $6k per bitcoin and if the price starts to rise above $7k then I will buy some bitcoins right now as this is the last dip that we are gonna see and after this dip I don't think that bitcoin will never be at $6k again in the future. So best thing would be to buy a small amount of coins now and when the price rise then sell those coins to buy them again in the future for more profit.
No one can actually know anything at this point in time, bitcoin is in a downtrend at the moment and that is the only thing we have for now but unfortunately different things get to play out we will see in a matter of days. I am expecting this is the cheaper price and if we wait more then we may get only more expensive prices to get within.

But there is still a very huge possibility that bitcoin may not go lower than $6k as there will be a big possibilities for forming a double bottom and a bounce from that region and that shows a possibility of at least a short reversal but for now, nothing is guaranteed and anything being said is going to be a baseless assumption.
8747  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I wish I dump all the BTC in late DEC 2017 on: June 22, 2018, 02:03:56 PM
My point is there is no need regretting a moment you obviously cannot change but rather find ways to make amendments; which to me, would make sense buying at the dip when you feel there is enough room for the market to move upward later on, so you do not end up regretting not buying the dips later on.

Not everyone can be a trader, you could have sold, and the market kept moving up. This is real market and not knowing how to trade makes you a gambler if you make attempts on the market, so for me, it is either you learn how to do well as an investor or you learn how to do well as a trader than regretting moments you cannot change.
Well thought indeed. The thing is that we cannot know how things would happen how events will unfold and even as traders, we try to find possibilities and probabilities based on what we see and then trade it while taking huge risks.

This is a market, nothing is certain but there is so much goodies that awaits with future development and rather than focusing so much on what one did not do in the past, we should be focusing on what we should do now to enjoy the future benefits which I hope most people should have learned now and which you also have pointed out.
8748  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you think that the price is fully manipulated? on: June 22, 2018, 11:27:30 AM
I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
Seems like this is what everyone is beginning to wonder now and it is becoming really worrisome as it is sending some negative waves to the market. Yes, the market is manipulated as I have seen series of washing, and a way to generate false or misleading movements in the market which is totally not good.

Manipulation is generally illegal in most markets like stocks but since this is a decentralized space, this is now beginning to become rampant and I hope something can be done in near future to stop those manipulators to safe guard the rest of innocent traders. Because, we cannot simply keep watching some people controlling the entire markets.
8749  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are the useful tips for beginners? on: June 22, 2018, 10:52:14 AM
if you are just a newbie in here, the bets thing that you can do is just to try to avoid having too much feelings while trading, and try to avoid being a greedy guy

Yes that is one way to control the emotional factor while trading. Adding about the skills, I would say a newbie should be well versed about the technology he/she wants to invest in and the market situation by which I mean to say he/she should have the perfect market knowledge. Also some knowledge about economics and finance would not be bad either.
Also on how they can be able to learn here is what could be the best gather the knowldege in a way wherein this is really helpful basic thing is the best atleast that you know how to understand this as well.
Knowledge is important in anything and the good thing about the digital age is that they are easily accessible as we get to see people talk about their experience which anyone can learn from, see how they can make things better and how they can take advantage of the best opportunities in the space without bringing any form of emotion into it.

This is just the tip that works best for any beginner, which is to learn the area of your investment perfectly well and you will be making quality and well-informed decisions.
8750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling Versus Traditional Gambling on: June 22, 2018, 10:22:01 AM
traditional gambling can be more reliable because it can face to face with other players, so the risk of fraud is very small. but the shortcomings are a matter of security, because no one would agree with gambling, and it would be reported if someone caught a gamble. online gambling is more secure, because playing at home alone, no one will know, and also can shorten the time and place. but the risk of fraud like money is not paid too big.
Nice though by two comparisons and they are right in security reasons online gambling is much safe and easier but for the reward or probability of winning is not too good in online gambling unlike in traditional gambling that you yourself will saw the live plays.
It is safe if you want to hide your earning or profits from tax but otherwise online gambling isn't really safe, check out fj whenever you win anything high they hold your winnings, now if this was a land casino you could easily file a complain but as this is online you literally can't do anything but wait
I was actually expecting someone to come up with this, and you are indeed right. Since there is no third party involved, transaction does not have to go through the bank, you can easily remain anonymous, that then makes it easy to get things done without the government being involved and evading tax in such circumstances comes easy.

Moreover, For the whole FJ thing, it is becoming more of a worry though as that was not the typical idea of making use of online gambling and with things like this going on with FJ, the bottom is surely waiting for them.
8751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: June 22, 2018, 08:49:58 AM
Because in some other places from the start gambling is considered a crime and not a good example to others gambling can ruin your life, your own family many people believe they can earn fast in gambling but the truth is they are making casino owners the real rich and not the gamblers.    
I think almost the whole world treat gambling negatively. It is a bad habit and a gambler has no respect in the community and even in his family. The reason is that a regular gambler loses everything and has no care for his family future. When a gambler loses money on a table, he borrows money and leaves himself in debts which ruin his life and his family as well.
I want to believe the treatment is as a result of how mist gamblers eventually ended up turning out.
While some were able to invest some brains into their skull to realize nothing good comes out of it and gamble accordingly or not gamble at all.

A larger percentage of gamblers just usually end up losing their should entirely to gambling which is why they screw up so bad and anyone who points at them would be like, gambling destroyed his life, so in that way, gambling will definitely be portrayed to be negative. If it is not so then it might lead to more destruction of innocent gamblers. At least this way could be considered as a method to save them.
8752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs. "leveraged" trading on: June 21, 2018, 06:59:22 PM
Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything. In leveraged trading, if you deposit & place an order and it reaches your liquidation level, you lose everything.

Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.
Well, that depends on how high the leverage you are placing is and how knowledgeable you are when it comes to trading. I have never liked leverage trading anyway because in the real sense, you are actually gambling and in this case it is even more of an educated gambling for those with knowledge than the real style of trading. In this case, you are either losing or you are winning and nothing like patience to hold as in the case of trading normally but in a way, with great knowledge, it is still better than normal gambling in a way.
8753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 5 Mental Responses That Will Make You Lose Money on: June 21, 2018, 05:27:33 PM
Human brain is no doubt one of the most important component of the human body and that the ones who exactly know how to make the best possible use of the brain are the ones who are making lot of money and are amongst the world’s wealthiest persons. You can also be one of them but for that you need to make the best possible use of this thing so that you may also get what you want in your life.
No doubt in this. But what if someone wants to kill himself, does he should be using the best aspects of his mind and plan so fantastically using the efficiency of his mind to kill himself? No, definitely no. we have to stop him and he must be stopping himself too. Likewise, in gambling, this is just a story of killing yourself financially and then let yourself engaged in how to use your mind efficiently.
That is the martingale strategy Grin. I fell for it when I used to gamble, got so comfortable with it that I will just let it keep rolling until one day when I realized the house edge will always win when those long streak of losses comes. This is a game of chance and sometimes, we always get to forget that all in the name of thinking we have arrived with some strategy and then we just lose everything at the end.

The worst thing that can ever happen to any gambler is things working out pretty fine from the start, getting so comfortable, and falling straight into that trap.
8754  Economy / Economics / Re: How to cope up with the falling prices? on: June 21, 2018, 04:07:59 PM
The best way to cope is to use it as a learning experience. Sometimes you have to take challenges head on, even if it means taking a second job and being in the shoes of people who work 16 hours a day. Not that I've had to do that, just that I would and keep investing.
Yeah, every stage is always a learning experience and if only most people can try as much as possible to learn here is never to panic no matter how the case might be now.

We saw a huge FOMO rush last year and it is expected that stuff like this is bound to happen, most especially when the price was driven by just mere speculation and manipulation with everyone just trying to get rich and not real demand. However, when the market gets a huge correction, which is usually more of a chance for anyone to get in at that period so as to get the best from it eventually.
8755  Economy / Economics / Re: Why all people moan about the price of bitcoin? on: June 21, 2018, 03:20:38 PM
That is a very good observation. While it is true that there is a huge dip in the market, but then again, we clearly see that compared to last year's prices we see a huge leap on it. Besides, if the price of BTC is lower then we can see that we can actually buy more with what we have. And come the last quarter, we will see profits.
The problem is that almost those who got in late last year got in for the wrong reasons with the assumption that the market is set to keep moving up. The news did not help, media kept coming up with reasons why bitcoin is ready to moon, the whales keep giving their own reasons, price got manipulated, everyone wanted to just get in as fast as they can and then it happened and here we are now.

Until some of these guys started seeing what they have invested in grow in value than what they bought it, I am sure moaning would not stop but at the same time, it is normal.
8756  Other / Off-topic / Re: Backup is important on: June 21, 2018, 12:28:31 PM
Agreed, I have an extra phone for gmail authenticator backup, also make sure to secure a pin code, you can use a paper or something and store in properly.
I really do not know why I prefer Authy to Gmail authenticator, which is by the way though. Backing up is not a problem if you can at least remember the email you used while setting up the authenticators be it, Authy or Gmail Authenticator.
For Authy however, it even helps with back up passwords which you can easily use to log in on any device after downloading the app and be able to have access back to all your linked 2FA logins so I have never found losing my device to be a problem.
8757  Economy / Economics / Re: How to regulate crypto? on: June 21, 2018, 11:34:37 AM
Do we need to regulate crypto so that more countries will  allow it?

It must be regulated with caution, not to stiffle its growth, too much regulation would be bad as we saw the china example. It is just bad to forbid everybody to use it and innovate upon it.
It leads to being last in the line of improvements, on which you will have to be in some point of time
Yes. Cautious regulation will help a lot of things and at the same time will not limit the growth of the space just like the way it was discussed by the SEC boss during the last conference. Regulation should come in a lenient way and even as lenient as it may be, it should be focused more on trying to reduce some level of illegal activities that can as well affect the market's growth.

I believe with such scenario, things will get better over time and the growth will be a lovely thing to experience due to mainstream adoption.
8758  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going to $400 on: June 20, 2018, 05:22:02 PM
He has the right to believe whatever he wants.
I think that there is no chance BTC even dropping below $5k again.
There is absolute no doubt that he has the right to stick with his opinion, since it is the speculation anyway, but there are some opinion that are total B.S. and we all know it is impossible. At least, speculations should be realistic and it is more like discussing the possibilities in the future. This one is total impossibility as far as I am concerned, and there is no way anyone expecting this will ever get it. $5000 and less is still not possible anyway then how we could agree with OP.

I am expecting a sharp bounce back in coming days toward $9800 levels as market once again proved the traders physiology of support levels around $6300 levels. Breaking of $10k may open doors toward $12,400 and then $15,900 levels. Lets wait and watch how crucial coming weeks are regarding how support and resistance levels will hold up.
8759  Economy / Speculation / Re: When is bitcoin bouncing back on: June 20, 2018, 04:01:54 PM
In my opinion. Your question will not find a 100% correct answer. This is related to prediction. Because what you are asking is "when". What is clear will someday increase again. But keep in mind never to stop reading news from reliable sources, who are impartial to anything. Read the opinions and comments of modern and digital economists.
Yes. It would not even get any answer since no one can see the future anyway. Bouncing back can happen anytime but not soon which is the reason why I believe that anyone should be taking advantage of the dip as it is right now.

As we wait to see how events unfold, I am sure there would still be some movement in between to take advantage of, and it is left for those who are smart enough to take it to do so. The market is always going to be unpredictable and those who have been in the space for a while now will know better.
8760  Economy / Speculation / Re: 3 reasons the crypto markets are in a dive and Tom Lee is moving the goal post on: June 20, 2018, 02:35:34 PM
I quite agree with his logic, cryptocurrency is facing tremendous pressure from both the unwillingness of mainstream traditional investors and financial security agencies, which have slowed down the morale at which the parabole (as described by 2017's December price shoot) was intended to change the scope of investment - it did alright, but not in the direction we all expected.
Really huge pressure and I simply do not expect the institutional investors to get into action at this point in time, when there is absolutely the chance of the market going way lower than this and with that, it is obvious that we may have to keep experiencing the outcome of the rapid increase of last year.

I still believe they are lurking around the corner anyway and this will even give time for development and maybe the next movement when the institutions are in the market, and bitcoin gets set for mainstream adoption, we may then see a real demand for it.
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