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8741  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Really need a few bitcoins, willing to pay $15 per coin via ppusd on: October 02, 2012, 03:00:18 AM
by paypal?

not likely
8742  Economy / Goods / Re: (8) 1 Oz Silver Mexican Libertads for Sale on: October 02, 2012, 02:13:33 AM
bump for beautiful topless angel women

one of my favorite coins for sure
8743  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cannot be filled with Tungsten on: September 30, 2012, 11:43:23 AM
uhhhh, skin effect?

So I'd like to ask the OP what it was that made him suspicious enough to risk cutting open a perfectly good bar? How did he know because I am not sure I would have been sure enough?

Next I would like to say that I am pretty sure that it would be quite a simple matter to measure the difference between filled and solid gold bars based on resistivity which would be a simple measurement to make in practice.

There are two key principles here - use a 4 terminal measuring device I would suggest that wooden or plastic block with contacts on the side and ends, could be used where the wooden block has an indentaion to match the exact size of gold bar. The principle of a 4 terminal resistance is that 2 terminals are used to inject a test current and 2 terminals used to read the voltage generated by this current. This cuts out completely voltage generated by poor contacts or leads.

Its not necessary to use a particularly large current - modern amplifiers are capable of accurately measuring very small offset voltages, and you are measuring a true differential voltage here that makes it a lot easier.

The last 'trick' which would add a little to the cost of what I have so far described a very simple cheap instrument, would be if it did in fact turn out to be too difficult to measure the offset voltage accurately due to offset noise in the amplifier. In this case you instead use an alternating current to perform the measurement and a synchronous decode to accurately measure the offset voltage. Such a decoder will reject all other frequencies including DC so that you only have the signal you want. I dont think this would be required, but it could be.

I can see that provided that you were happy to have an instrument that effectively only measured one size of gold bar, it would be very easy to devlop such an instrument. How could it be made more general purpose (to cater for many different sizes?). Not sure. To compare the same sized gold bar, its essential to have the contacts in the same place.

Indeed perhaps the hardest part (really) is that if I did this you'd have to loan me a few genuine bars to calibrate it! (As well as the fake!)

If there IS anyone who wants such an instrument I do actually have relevant experience to develop such a thing and am looking for work right now. Please PM me. It wont be cheap for a 1-off instrument, but it WILL work (I'd do a better feasibility study first. and it could save you a small fortune!! ) It would also be pretty interesting in that I have never heard of such an instrument but am pretty sure I could make one.

8744  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lakota Sioux Nation on: September 30, 2012, 03:15:57 AM
Chief Bone Necklace trades 1000BTC for his daughters sacrifice lmao
/let me stop

excuse me?
8745  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Interest in a Seattle Bitcoin Meetup? on: September 30, 2012, 02:15:36 AM
The meetup.com thing was started by that guy that wanted to monetize "free" games by botting the players box and mining on it...not very interested in meeting him.

You other folks, sure, bar is good
8746  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 30, 2012, 12:56:05 AM
I see this thread is still chugging along nicely

insert heap of scorn for OP here thank you





as you were
8747  Other / Off-topic / Re: First Look at BFL's ASIC Hardware on: September 29, 2012, 11:07:23 PM


Now if look you closely at this post, just can see it's pretty obvious that the poster has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Of course this isn't proof of total ignorance. A simple explanation is that it was a quick trolling without particular attention to detail. I'm not one of these people who are convinced of blanket trolling, although given the recent trolling posts and the whole trolling game taking place I consider it a strong possibility.

I actually enjoy a bit of electric mucus...but that right there is funny as fuck
8748  Other / Off-topic / Re: First Look at BFL's ASIC Hardware on: September 27, 2012, 02:21:55 AM
Are we going to see watercooled ASICs?

I'm trying to work on that, need mechanical drawings
8749  Other / Off-topic / Re: "Frist Look at BFL's ASIC Hardware" on: September 26, 2012, 02:18:58 AM
Hmmmmmmmm
8750  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Got off the phone with the Guy from the S.E.C on: September 25, 2012, 03:21:08 AM
dearest OP,

get a life douchebag
8751  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much money have you lost in Bitcoin or Bitcoin-related ventures? on: September 23, 2012, 02:04:05 AM
There should be negative choices as some of us make a living with bitcoin. Smiley

well obviously most of us have made money, the thread is about those entries in the loss column

I had 10 BTC sitting in bitcoinica...thought I was being smart by spreading my exchange risk off of GOX
8752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a larger known networked computing project? on: September 23, 2012, 02:00:28 AM
my point was...if we were doing this on 10 pentiums governments would crush us like a bug

as it stands we operate the most powerful computing effort that has ever existed
8753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a larger known networked computing project? on: September 23, 2012, 12:52:21 AM
Said arms race secures the blockchain against attack, it is a good thing.
8754  Other / Off-topic / Re: Laissez Faire City (a BFL connection(?), et al.) on: September 22, 2012, 08:23:16 PM
well...so much for that 1300 bucks

damn
8755  Other / Off-topic / Re: Guys, I have this spectacular new business idea! on: September 22, 2012, 08:13:24 PM
Shut up and take my money !

this
8756  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Project: custom 19in rack passive cooling system on: September 21, 2012, 02:23:53 AM
Let me know if you need any parts cut, we'll work something out.
8757  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Police State Mastercard Bitcoin Parody on: September 21, 2012, 01:50:56 AM
You know Watchwoord, I was going to trot out the teabonics slides and throw down, but instead I am going to see if we can back away from the vitriol and actually have a discussion.  There are forces that would prefer that people remain divided.  It is incumbent on each of us to resist this and find common ground where we can.  Actually, I think a lot of folks are arriving at a synthesis of what were once mutually exclusive views.  Sites like ZeroHedge, projects like the Rap News, there are a lot of examples these days.

More and more occupy types are figuring out about the Federal Reserve and the evils of debt based money.  More and more tea party types are vocalizing that actually a kleptocratc oligarchy is no way to run a country.

Your objections to traditional protest, at least as you have articulated them here, seem to be largely aesthetic, and actually I share your distaste, but I also understand that people don't really know what else to do.  Access to broadcast and print media is tightly gatekept, and internet media is so fractured that it is difficult to reach people there.  I hear your demand for "actual content" and I agree.  At the same time, a person should not have to be an artist or a gifted orator to have a voice in their governance.

My fear is that you are dismissing an entire population of possible, in fact increasingly likely, allies on aesthetic grounds alone.  Both sides have certainly been guilty of this sort of divisive disdain.  I think it would be very helpful to move beyond that and communicate about what we agree on.
8758  Other / Off-topic / Re: TOWN HALL (prep) Meeting: Butterfly Labs on: September 20, 2012, 11:12:32 AM
popcorn
8759  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Small time miners - What do you do when ASICs hit and you don't upgrade? on: September 20, 2012, 02:58:20 AM
finally turn the fans down and play a game when I feel like it?
8760  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin cannot be filled with Tungsten on: September 20, 2012, 01:14:53 AM
Here is a way to test without ultrasound equipment.

First dip gold in water to find the amount of displacement.  The displacement will give you a very accurate volume of the bar.  Now using a scale measure the weight of the bar.  Using the volume and the atomic weight of gold you can also calculate weight.  If the calculated weight and measured weight are the same it's a real bar.  If it is lighter then it might have tungsten in it.  Something like that.

Incorrect, the specific gravity test used to be very safe, modern fakes using a mixture of tungsten and osmium precisely match gold's specific gravity.  Sad but true
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