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@ivomm I hope your dad recovers.
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Isn't crypto currency a way Iran could circumvent international sanctions? It doesn't seem like a very good move on their part.
Do you know what illegal means? Those miners are sucking free electricity through mining, this is like stealing from the government pocket which of cos they have every right to seize their rigs, I don't use grid for mining I only use solar panels and I'm proud of that decision you sir are correct. All power thieves in Iran need their gear to be taken and destroyed . They could also have both pinkies severed so the public would know the theft they did steal power for mining. |
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Looks like all the non LHR 3070s for us$1200-1250 in Australia are gone now. Last month there was plenty still, cant even find one now.
WELL duh. They are a legal way to print money. So they sell out. The price for them is now 1399 plus tax or in my case about 1500 vs the 1170 I paid https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1644218-REG/pny_technologies_vcnrtxa4000_pb_nvidia_rtx_a4000_graphics.htmlbelow is a 12 card case with 4 gpus. both the a4000 and the 3090 zotac are getting heat sinks in a day or 2. I am getting 6 more a4000 today. So I saved around 325 a card x 7 = 2275 my partners and I got 17 of them or 17 x 325 = 5525 saved. Basically by jumping in fast we got 5 cards for free. The problem of over priced cards will not go away anytime soon. Maybe mid 2022. I have heard early 2023 at worst So 9 to 16 months.  |
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Found a source for PNY Rtx A4000 cards We got 18 of them They do 63 mh at 120 watts. They sold out dealer had 65 yesterday and now has 0. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FCBKau5xK00They arrive monday. I will post results. I am getting 2 more cases for 12 cards. I will mix in these with my 3090 cards and have beastly rigs. so first one came tomorrow 6+6+5 =17 more. I am playing with clocks it is doing 50 mh at 115 watts.
that is the a4000
It is clocked to
core +10
memory +1400
watts 115
new number below
core -100
ram 1500
watts 111new settings core. -200 ram. 2100 watts 129. 57.94 Room is hot. I will add some heatsinks. But decent numbers this card is a one slot low power. commercial blower design. power is capped at 130 watts. bh has stock but bumped price up I paid under 1200 tax + shipping included. they want 1400 + tax https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1644218-REG/pny_technologies_vcnrtxa4000_pb_nvidia_rtx_a4000_graphics.html/?smos screenshot. the zotac 3090 also needs more cooling |
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I -could- understand not wanting "escrow" when trying to sell locally.
To be honest, I couldn't. Why not want an escrow to secure any deal and show that you have nothing to hide? Especially when you are a newbie and we all know what that means. For me, this is nothing but a scam attempt. Newbie account post about "selling" brand new miners somewhere in the EU, without any intension to use escrow and without any kind of pics. If it was the 1st of April, I would say that this is a big joke! I told you that its possible pay on pick up. You come, see, test miner if you want. Pay at place and pick it up. Location: Rome, Italy. This post for people who want to buy, not to post any doubts and here in Italy we guess you shouldn't write accusations against someone you don't know. I underline again that we offer to come to our office to check miners. What else? I never ask any money upfront guys I do escrow and have done escrow. To be clear I am not trying to solicit escrow services for your gear. But let us pretend you are honest. You state you have 12 units. That is about 12 x 10000 = 120,000 euros in product. You are putting yourself in danger. You are putting the buyer in danger. So basically most people will avoid buying from you. Basically I can only say to buyers and sellers please be careful. |
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Not a bad idea, I'll order one. Thanks. There used to be a leather softener. Let me look for link. Combine it with the stretcher. Of course test to see how it affects shoe color. https://www.amazon.com/FootMatters-Professional-Boot-Stretch-Spray/dp/B00NLM8EL6/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?put a little on a q-tip and apply it to the tongue of the shoe as the pants hem would cover that spot. I would spray my boots and my wife's boots and use the stretcher it would take under 10 days to be good. Well worth the money as foot blisters suck. |
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Back to the present:
well at least the diff is -1.4%. and price went back up a bit.
And now it's completely reverse, 13th is not a lucky day, difficulty entered positive territory Current Pace: 100.6234% (782 / 777.16 expected, 4.84 ahead) and the price dipped again below 45k, 44630 right now on Coinbase. At least if those would keep going like this for a while. I doubt any newbie will come to mining in the next period, electricity rates are going nuts in Europe right now, I'm on a fixed rate and under a special plan so I'm not going to see any of those changes till next year but some around me have been hit with 30 to nearly 80% increase, we might end with 25eurocents after tax for residential use. Honestly, these numbers are larger than what I thought would be, but still, they are not even close to owning half of the hashrate, I still believe the vast majority of hashrate is owned by other small companies and individuals, with many of them who have no clue about what they are doing and will be eaten by these large guys pretty soon.
I was surprised by the numbers, (still not finished that list yet) in both way, I would have expected fewer companies with around 1 exa and for those more hashrate, not such a distribution with no real major player right now, not considering plans that might not materialize. I'm really curious if we would be able to gather all the orders those have put for miners if we hit 50 exa in total. That aside I'm starting to think a more than 5-10% rise over 200 exa at this price level will be close to impossible.So does price get pushed up to correct levels? Or do we crash? bitmain has the s19j listed at $10,000 https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020210913172218249A8726L7205C3to buy it for USA add 3000 import duty so 13000 100 th is about 31 usd a day with free power. 13,000/31= 420 (rounded it from 419.35 looks better) and you must be smoking it to think you should buy at this price. Now my car payment is 420 maybe it is a sign to run out and buy the gear. My problem with the pricing is we grabbed one early say sep or august 2020 for about $3000.00 tax and shipping including and it was a 110th pro. My fear to buy a 13000 machine that was lower than 3000 is realistic . BTW our power is 1/2 the coins. So our roi is 840 days. The BTC sha gear pricing has pushed me to buy a lot more gear in other algorithms. |
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Nice My partner buysolar and I have 2 much smaller solar arrays doing mining.
They produce 160kwatts peak which translates to around 27-32 kwatts average for 24/7/365. Since New Jersey locations produce about 5 or 6 hours of full power per day. You simply divide the peak number 160/5 = 32 or 160/6 = 26.7
We are hoping to get a 500kwatt peak array built in late 2021/2022 this would be around 83-100kwatts average for 24/7/365. Clean green energy that pays off in under 10 years.
We also have a hedge in that we can sell the energy to the grid rather then mine with it. So we have an effective bottom price value in case mining coins profit has a collapse.
It is nice to see some companies are going green to mine. It can be done.
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In any event, your squiggly lines deny the presence of that kind of BTC price dynamics involving a $55k to $80k deadman's zone.. even into the coming 3-4 months when you believe this challenge to a new ATH is going to fail.
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**In case you don't know I am referring to: 1) stock to flow, 2) four-year fractal and 3) exponential s-curve adoption based on Metcalfe principles and networking effects.
I agreed to this point because bitcoin has already recovered from the old point but did not break out also i don't know but wait 3-4 months like to be $80k is storng zone..  My sense of a possible deadman's zone building is a wee bit of a SOMA proclamation that attempts to recognize, appreciate and account for historical ways that BTC has behaved in regards to its previous ATHs - the breaking through portion. Maybe we could just look at: early 2013 when BTC broke past $32, it went to $263-ish, late 2013 when BTC broke past $263, it went to $1,163-ish, early 2017 when BTC broke past $1,163, it went to the mid-$2ks, late 2020 when BTC broke past $20k, it went to the upper $30ks. My question is:Why do you not say it went to 64k?There might be some other examples that are not even so much about breaking above previous ATH, but when BTC prices seem to have some high levels of being held down, then the price catches up to where it should have gone.. so the correction down to upper $20ks/lower $30ks is starting to feel like it may well have been one of those periods of overexuberant correction... just a hunch.. just a hunch.. And sure, ImThour could end up being correct, and bitcoin shirks off its old overexuberant bounce backs after going through what seemed to have been overexcuberant corrections.. perhaps? perhaps? maybe the odds of a $55k to $80k deadman zone are only 30% to 40%, but still that would be pretty high from my perspective... even 20% odds are not really bad, if you are a bitcoin pessimist (aka nocoiner, precoiner) and you have $100k that you have invested in a variety of nonbitcoin investments, and if you could appreciate what I am saying about odds of BTC UPpity performance - including the possible existence of such deadman's zone between $55k and $80k, it might do you some hedging (and even investment portfolio good) to actually put 1% to 10% (that would be anywhere between $1k to $10k out of your $100k investment portfolio) into bitcoin.. merely based on those kinds of deadman's zone probabilities and of course, we also have the existence of the other currently valid BTC price prediction models that also lead some credibility and decent probabilities to both bitcoin's investment thesis but also likely ongoing UPpity BTC price pressures - already mentioned as: 1) stock to flow, 2) four-year fractal and 3) exponential s-curve adoption based on Metcalfe principles and networking effects.... and again justifying the guy with $100k of investments to put somewhere between $1k and $10k of his investment portfolio into bitcoin based on those kinds of persistent underlying aspects of bitcoin. Unbiased Price Prediction on the basis of Previous Chart ActionBullish in the Long run. ... Not gonna read that a lot and not sure how you have that much time to write something like that in a post, kudos lmao. In other words, you got nuttin. You 1) refuse to read the text of a post that attempts to directly address points raised by your squiggly lines and words of your post. and 2) denigrate my post by asserting that it is too long to read Hard to treat you seriously in such circumstances. Also, you wanna make a bet on your price prediction? (as you asked me to do) Nah, right?
I am not making any prediction you diptwat. I am bringing questions to your prediction, and asserting that you are failing refusing to account for context including current BTC price prediction models. Instead of explaining why you choose such context and asserted it to be unbiased or explaining why you failed and refuse to account for currently valid BTC price prediction models You mischaracterize my criticism of your stupid-ass lame post as a prediction and you double down on your dumbassedness. I don't wanna sound negative but the thing is there are opinions.
Nothing wrong with having opinions. I was largely ONLY asking to 'splain ur lil selfie a wee bit more, including your proclamation of supposed "unbiasness." And if you judge people by opinions, you aren't doing it right.
I was not judging you. I was judging your post; however, you subsequent lameass and defensive post is causing me to consider that I may way need to judge you as either being retarded or disingenuine in your interaction regarding your prediction.. including your defensiveness and diversions. See bold. so it broke 20k jumped to 64k therefore if it breaks 64k it jumps to 204.8k? Say by jan 27th 2022 my birthday  . I mean why not? |
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So well all know I did pretty good with Doge. Should have been better but still very well. I have found a coin that may do nicely. XEC https://support.viabtc.com/hc/en-us/articles/900004339303I mine it at viabtc.com I use 1 rig of my sha256 gear an s15 set to low. It does 21th about 134,000 coins a day I started when coins were. 0.000022 usd coins are now 0.000046 usd I am up to 2.9 million coins. If you have a lot of sha 256 gear and point 1 unit to this the upside is huge. 134,000 x 365 = 48,910,000 coins mined in a year with 21th. yeah diff will go up. So say it mines 25,000,000 coins if price moves to 0.00046 25,000,000 coins are 11,500 usd a 21th machine mining btc would mine .067 btc with no diff change or maybe 0.04 btc in a year at 100k btc that is 4000 So we have 21th of 1100th mining XEC it is ladder sale set at 0.000091 0.000910 0.009100 0.091000 0.191000 0.291000 0.491000 0.891000 1.189100 we have 2,918,985 coins at 0.000046 I will post back on this play in a month. Plan is to mine it for 1 year. It mines at a profit daily. even with 15 cent power. as 24 kwatts on low is 3.60 and 21 x .34 = 7.14 that is a $3.50 profit with 15 cent power. So mine it sell 5 usd worth a day you bank 1.40 usd cash and stack a lot of the coin. It is literally no risk If my power bill was $3.60 for it and I mined 135000 coins. Sell 100,000 for $4.60 pocket 1 dollar and stack 10,000 coins It is a no brainer to try it for 10 days. you make 10 bucks profit you stack 100,000 coins list them for 0.0046 x 50,000 = 230 dollars 0.0460 x 50,000 = 2300 dollars the worst you do is make 10 bucks. which is pretty fucking good. So to follow up this coin went from: 0.0000220 to 0.0003900 to 0.0002168 I have 4,218,000 I mine 100,000 a day I sold 2,000,000 I made a few bucks. I still see a solid pump here if you have a lot of gear point an s9 or 2 at it. 2 s9's will make 35,000 coins a day list the 35,000 every day in an upwards ladder. ie today they are 0.0002168 first day mining list 35,000 at 0.0008888 second day list 35,000 at 0.0011111 third day list 35,000 at 0.0022222 fourth day list 35,000 at 0.0033333 go up the ladder for 10 days and assess. |
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Yeah I remember that give away. The biggest problem they (spondoolies) did was go head to head with bitmain against the s-5 and they lost the price war. No one has really beaten Bitmain in a price war but price wars for cheap gear does not happen much any more. Back to the present: well at least the diff is -1.4%. and price went back up a bit. Sooner or later sideways price and stable low diff will end so mine them and stack them while you can. |
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well they made a decent miner. sp10 or sp20 one of them was pretty good ran about 800gh with a downclock and was pretty much bulletproof if you ran it at 800gh vs top speed of 1200/1300 gh. I liked that piece of gear. avalon had a nice model in the 1tb range that was very good run at 700gb. |
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@Phil
Is Spondoolies really coming back to btc miner market,
or are you only speculating?
I saw their Dash miner year or few ago,
but I have not seen a new btc miner after SP20.
Speculation as we are in the speculation section. While I have had a good relationship with Guy Corem I have zero knowledge that they will do it. |
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1156$  In Russia, this video card costs at least $ 2,000 I really don't like the cooling system of this video card. Have you installed them in closed cases or installed additional cooling fans? It's very strange how Nvidia hasn't thought of reducing the hash rate on these models yet. These (I think are new generation of Quadro cards) are for rendering and architecture the most and I am not sure if they can really limit hash rate on these because the cards will also under perform in rendering which uses compute mode to make calculations.I think this is the new gold in GPU-s to go after and the price of that A4000 looks appealing.It looks the same performance as the RX 6800 XT which I have and they do 63-64 Mhsh but at 150-160 watt,this one seems more efficient at 120 watt,looks like just a better version of the Rtx 3060 ti non LHR to me. these cards and 3090s caused me to buy the premade 12 case extra fan closed cases. The 17 maybe 18 and the 3090s should all be in hand and in these cases in 10-14 days. I will post some photos. We are also getting 3x L7 New room is going from 90 amps to 330amps. Our problem is not power it is lack of gear. As we really won’t t over pay. Maybe 5% over msrp. We have lots of cheap power. just don't have gear ⚙️ |
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If you were China government you could do this. Real gear and chip restriction. To the entire world.
Fortunately China does not have control of the Chip production. Ja. There are no Foundries in China that are capable of producing 10nm chips much less 7 or 5nm ones. The major makers of mining gear and owners of their specific chip designs are Chinese-owned but, a) all the actual producers (Foundries) of cutting-edge much less bleeding-edge chips are located in Taiwan, Korea, and the US. b) if pressured by the Chinese government the miner makers will just move assembly operations to a different country. c) worse comes to worst, they will startup new miner manufacturing companies in a different country. I suspect c) will happen I can see spondollies coming back into major production. |
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Hi guys name is ed, I'm new to crypto mining I need info about building rigs for long life purpose, is it safe to build rigs with closed cases or open cases? I know heat are GPUs worst enemies but I'm talking about closed cases made for mining with many fans on them, the reason why I ask is I'm not sure that exposure to dusts is safe for Motherboards and GPU, what am I missing ?
Hey my name is Phil. closed cases fitting 12 cards work closed cases fitting 8 cards work. closed standard atx cases fitting two cards work. Open cases with risers work open cases with slots only work. basically it all depends on your needs and your room. I have two 12 card cases sealed that cost me 1150 each costly yes but they fit a specific need. In fact am getting two more of them tonight. I have a mobo on a wooden board with nylon spacers cost five or six bucks. it also fits a good spot and works there. my review of expensive 12 card case https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356556.0most new miners do not need it |
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A) this is btc only section.
B) i do not know if sellers are legit
C) i looked closely at listed sellers of the eth machine
some may be okay.
all want over 16k for a rig that could be made obsolete with a simple switch to progpow algorithm.
I just purchased 12 gpus for 14k and a plug n play case for them 1k
so i get 12 x 63 = 756 mh
i burn 12 x 120 = 1440 watts add 160 more for fans and mobo is 1600 watts
16999 used on your link about 15200 for my build.
I burn 250 more watts or 6 kwatts a day or 180 a month say 2000 kwatt in a year at 10 cents
200 dollars I PAY FAR LESS 1800 usd less.
3 year warranties on the gpus.
and the build i do does 120 volts.
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Just learning that there are lots of gods in India that reach up to 36000 is really amazing. Let's just discount the number of gods of Vikings and Chinese gods. What are they all doing now while the world is on the brink of ww3?
I always remember the words of my father that gods are all made up. just as how the monster wolf he created when he don't want me to go to the woods.
If Jesus is true, are all those who had lived before him, going to hell?
Jesus's work on the cross took care of all sin for all time. His success in rising from the dead is the thing that literally upholds the universe. The Old Testament of the Bible is the historical examples of what happened when people obeyed God and when they didn't. Jesus is the Son of God. Things of the universe are way different than science wants you to believe.  When a person is dead, nothing can bring them to life. It is physically impossible. The biochemical pathways in our cells cannot function without oxygen. Autolysis starts about 10 minutes after you die. The breakdown of cell walls and subsequent decomposition is irreversible. People who wrote the stories about Jesus did not know what planet they were on, never mind the cellular biochemistry. But if you are not really flesh and blood and that you simply were created to think you are that you theory is wrong. Of course if it is what you see is what you get then the flesh and blood would truly break down. You would be correct at least about the flesh and blood body. My life's experience has shown me the following: the part of existence outside of me can contradict itself and basically do as it pleases. I can choose to think and believe whatever I want about it. The inside part of me my mind/soul/whatever can lie at times so well that it can trick me . So basically I simply try to be nice to others and not ponder upon these deep thoughts. |
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Dead cat bounce high is ~$53k. We now know that bitcoin will not go higher than $53k again.
Dead Cat is DEAD. We will go to all time high again this year. Keep that posting up with 10 merits you can rank up to Member |
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