Useful list, thanks for collating it.
Thanks! Does “max supply” and “block time” basically cover the major difference between these cryptonote coins?
Pretty much, for now. Most coins are direct clones of ByteCoin/CryptoNote Reference Coin. The main difference to date is merge mined coins or straight POW coins. Monero, since it was taken over by new devs, has had some work done 'under the hood'. Not that regular users would notice much difference. Boolberry has a GUI wallet - however I could not get mine to run under Linux. Some of these categories must be specific to the bitcoin protocol because they're never mentioned in [ANN]s for coins using the Cryptonote protocol.
Retarget and diff adjustment is always 1 - because (I think) all of them adjust diff every block. Confirmation time depends on block time and number of blocks before a transaction is confirmed - just as with BTC/LTC. I'm looking for 2nd gen correlates to this metadata --- you seem to have a good grip on the tech and as I haven't managed so far to make a single successful translation of the patter in any of the 2gen info sheets, do you have any pointers as to what other features could be used to characterise these different coins?
Anyone else have any suggestions on the above? |
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I can't find the Linux binaries at the link on the OP  |
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CryptoNote provides users with a completely anonymous payment scheme. CryptoNote implements the ring signature technology which allows you to sign a message on behalf of a group. The signature only proves the message was created by someone from the group, but all the possible signers are indistinguishable from each other. Even if outgoing transactions are untraceable, everyone may still be able to see the payments you have received and thus determine your income. However, by using a variation of the Diffie-Hellman exchange protocol, a receiver has multiple unique one-time addresses derived from his single public key. After funds are sent to these addresses they can only be redeemed by the receiver; and it would be impossible to cross-link these payments.
Aeon (AEON) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 60s Launched: June 6, 2014 Boolberry (BBR) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 120s Launched: April 20, 2014 Bytecoin (BCN) Max Supply: 184.5 billion Block Time: 120s Launched: July 4, 2012* (*Claimed but disputed) Dashcoin (DSH) Max Supply: 184.5 billion Block Time: 120s Launched: July 5, 2014 DiamondBack (DBK) Max Supply: 1.04 million Block Time: 384s Launched: August 16, 2014 Dosh (DOSH) Max Supply: 184.5 million Block Time: 192s Launched: August 11, 2014 DuckNote (XDN) Max Supply: 8.5 billion Block Time: 240s Launched: May 30, 2014 Fantomcoin (FCN) Max Supply: Infinite Block Time: 60s Launched: May 21, 2014 Infinium-8 (INF8) Max Supply: Infinite Block Time: 90s Launched: July 17, 2014 Monero (XMR) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 60s Launched: April 25, 2014* (*BitMonero launched April 9, 2014) MonetaVerde (MCN) Max Supply: Infinite Block Time: 60s Launched: June 15, 2014 MountCoin (MNT) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 25s Confirmations: 60 blocks Launched: June 19, 2014 OneEvilCoin (OEC) Max Supply: 8.3 million Block Time: 60s Launched: July 14, 2014 SilverBack (SBK) Max Supply: 1.07 billion Block Time: 192s Launched: August 7, 2014 Quazarcoin (QCN) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 120s Launched: May 21, 2014
We either;
Choose to carry on living in a serfdom where the rule of law is arbitrary between the Common Person and the Billionaire or Multi-national Corporation.
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Claim our freedom by using Cryptonote technology which gives every person the same tools to manage their financial and tax affairs
Please jump on the thread with your mining, investment and technical observations. Also any ideas for future development. Thanks to TC for the more graphical list - he will be normalising the images shortly - I would hate to start a flame war because some coins have bigger graphics!  |
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Untraceable payments CryptoNote provides users with a completely anonymous payment scheme. CryptoNote implements the ring signature technology which allows you to sign a message on behalf of a group. The signature only proves the message was created by someone from the group, but all the possible signers are indistinguishable from each other. Unlinkable transactions Even if outgoing transactions are untraceable, everyone may still be able to see the payments you have received and thus determine your income. However, by using a variation of the Diffie-Hellman exchange protocol, a receiver has multiple unique one-time addresses derived from his single public key. After funds are sent to these addresses they can only be redeemed by the receiver; and it would be impossible to cross-link these payments. List of Cryptonote Coins Aeon (AEON) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 60s Launched: June 6, 2014 Boolberry (BBR) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 120s Major changes/enhancements from CryptoNote Reference: GUI Wallet* (*Not thought to be release grade, yet) Launched: April 20, 2014 Bytecoin (BCN) Max Supply: 184.5 billion Block Time: 120s Launched: July 4, 2012* (*Claimed but disputed) Dashcoin (DSH) Max Supply: 184.5 billion Block Time: 120s Launched: July 5, 2014 DiamondBack (DBK) Max Supply: 1.04 million Block Time: 384s Launched: August 16, 2014 Dosh (DOSH) Max Supply: 184.5 million Block Time: 192s Launched: August 11, 2014 duckNote (XDN) Max Supply: 8.5 billion Block Time: 240s Launched: May 30, 2014 Fantomcoin (FCN) Max Supply: Infinite Block Time: 60s Launched: May 21, 2014 Infinium-8 (INF8) Max Supply: Infinite Block Time: 90s Launched: July 17, 2014 KrakenToken (KKN) Max Supply: 10 million Block Time: 60s Major changes/enhancements from CryptoNote Reference: POS (15%pa) Launched: August 29, 2014 (40% IPO) Monero (XMR) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 60s Launched: April 25, 2014* (*BitMonero launched April 9, 2014) MonetaVerde (MCN) Max Supply: Infinite Block Time: 60s Launched: June 15, 2014 MountCoin (MNT) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 25s Confirmations: 60 blocks Launched: June 19, 2014 OneEvilCoin (OEC) Max Supply: 8.3 million Block Time: 60s Launched: July 14, 2014 Quazarcoin (QCN) Max Supply: 18.4 million Block Time: 120s Launched: May 21, 2014 SilverBack (SBK) Max Supply: 1.07 billion Block Time: 192s Launched: August 7, 2014 |
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J1mb0 - A picture is worth a thousand words. Something was corrupt with BCN and you only need look at where the finger is pointing.
You could make the same point about BitMonero. Which would be just as irrelevant today as well. 3 Points; I am not comparing BCN or BitMonero to Quark. But look at the birth of Quark. Still alive with community. Price steadily rising. The mainstream press love a 'back story'. All the stuff around Bytecoin - They will love!  Whether true or false! BCN is the only cryponote of substance with a supply that is suited for day to day trading and spending by millions or billions of people [Edit] - I don't like to keep bumping this thread so I will start a new thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=761124.0 |
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You don't make.. investments.. yet you hold them? So you DO make investments? I don't understand.
I just mine. Also I do not give a fig what the BCN, Monero or whatever price is. I see cryptonote breaking through after the BTC has truly gone mainstream. Maybe Q3 2015. If all parties could be sensible I see a great future for BCN, XMR and at least one other cryptonote - this technology will liberate and enable the common man to use the same tools as the Billionaires and Multi-National Corporations with regard to their financial affairs. It is only when BTC goes truly mainstream that this will become apparant. |
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You claim you like Monero yet post
I did make a few 'anti Monero' threads recently and kept bumping them for 24 hours just to highlight the Monero shill M.O. Shocked |
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What do you mean? I use TOR all the time. How does this change anyting?
Well, it's like someone reading about BTC in the NYT and then complaining that 'because it was only known about by a small community at BitCoinTalk' then it was '30% pre-mined'. I personally don't know. I just read what the other coders here write.
Well, aside from the changes made to thwart an attack, neither do I.
But the fact that BCN released a intentionally crippled miner leaves me doubt about the code in general.
"Intentionally crippled". Proof? Just because things are constantly repeated does not make them true. Other than that, it has liquidity and a community behind it. That is more than enough for now.
How was this proven?
From the horses mouth - rpietila pledged to support the XMR price How do you calculate that estimate?
It's just a guess! |
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So, have you made an investment in BCN that was over your head, or are you part of BCN-scam?
I never make 'investment' in any crypto. Anyone who does is either a gambler, delusional mad or all three! I have substantial funds in most Cryptonotes including Monero. I did make a few 'anti Monero' threads recently and kept bumping them for 24 hours just to highlight the Monero shill M.O.  I quite like Monero. The devs seem to be quite good and are reasonably measured. Because Monero is quite rare I see it as being more a store of wealth than an everyday currency. You could say that it could be to BCN what a savings account is to fiat. However 'someone' is coordinating the spamming of BitCoinTalk ALT - and it is hurting all the Cryptonotes (and probably ALT in general. |
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A coin does not need to have any "features". Since when did gold have features?
One of the main 'accusations' of the Monero FUDsters and shills against all the other cryptonotes is the 'lack of security and features' compared to Monero. I just wondered if you could enlighten us. I also note that you failed to answer my point about Max! |
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After all, what exactly does XMR have going for it besides any of the other Bytecoin/Crytonote clones? Could you list even one significant feature? First off, it's not a premine scam that launched with a miner that was intentionally crippled (like BCN, and probably some of the other clones). It has a team of active devs that cleaned up the code and are making progress with it. BCN was not a premine scam. Many thousands are mining it using CPU and GPU. BCN has a team of active devs. If Monero types were too dumb to use TOR then that is their problem. Exactly what progress has been made with the 'cleaned up code'? You see, this is the XMR M.O. Somebody asks a simple question as to how the Monero code has provided any extra benefits or features and the only reply is general FUD and attack against [Name any coin here] usually BCN. Other than that, it has liquidity and a community behind it. That is more than enough for now.
It's been proven on this forum that the only thing keeping the XMR price from falling quickly (as opposed to the observed gradual decline) is one BTC whale Sugar Daddy, rpietila. As for the 'community', I estimate that the Monero community is around one quarter of the ByteCoin community - most of whom do not frequent BitCoinTalk. |
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That Monero constantly occupied like 20% of the alt section , is a great testimony to the importance of the coin.
I don't think so. If you actually look at the content of those threads it is mainly 1 liners by shills. The exception is the occasional post by the likes od FluffyPony. There is just nothing to be said concerning the others.
Now here we have a prime example of the arrogance and irrational sense of entitlement by Monero Fanbois! After all, other Pump and Dump scam coins have followed the same M.O. with FUD and shills - but it is this arrogance that has made everyone on BitCoinTalk hate Monero. After all, what exactly does XMR have going for it besides any of the other Bytecoin/Crytonote clones? Could you list even one significant feature? The constant shilling and hatred is ridiculous, and I advocate against the dev team even replying to it anymore (let the community do it). But it does serve the purpose to bump the threads and make them "interesting" (for those who regard Der Alte interesting, that is..)
Must be annoying after all the work put in to swamp Bitcointalk ALT with FUD and shill threads against ANY other coin to further the pump and dump. I tell you what - why not stop supporting the gradual decline of XMR Monero with your whale BTC for a week and we will see exactly how much real support the coin has. Max Keiser is a BTC whale but even he was not stupid enough to do with MAX what you are doing to XMR and this was a coin named after and endorsed by him! If you have any sense, don't walk away RUN - and take a holiday! |
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Mining Bytecoin is profitable today, isn't it?
Of course, Mining Bytecoin is profitable. If it didn't bring any benefit, then it wouldn't be such a huge community that supports this currency We're not huge yet... still got space for growing  But seriously, i mine BCN and have no compliants. Do you mine GPU as well? I used to mine with Claymore. |
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Bytecoin has been updated to v.1.0.2, which includes the following features: — Transaction history for simplewallet and Wallet JSON RPC — Reset command for simplewallet and Wallet JSON RPC — Various simplewallet improvements The "reset" command is a handful tool in case you would like to resynchronize your wallet's data from scratch. This command was introduced to avoid deleting the wallet.bin file in case the re-synchronization is required. The transaction history can be obtained through "list_transfers" command in simplewallet or "get_transfers" method in Wallet RPC. It returns the information regarding all incoming and outgoing transactions. The method provides an easy way for the users or services to recheck all the wallet's operations. You may learn more about these new features on Bytecoin Wiki: new simplewallet commands and their outputs, new Wallet JSON RPC methods. Download Bytecoin v.1.0.2: http://bytecoin.org/downloadsMore info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=718834.0 Many thanks for this.  Everything is working great on Linux (v.1.0.2) - The refresh on the wallet is much faster! What are you guys going to be working on for the next updates? |
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What is the store wallet JSON RPC command used for ?
Doesn't this command (with no argument) tell the wallet to do a 'save'? Many thanks for the update! Works like a dream here. Much faster wallet sync. Looking good! |
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he pretty much got payed [sic] to keep bytecoin on the non-premined list, there is no other logical explanation, mainly considering it was not on the clean list before, serious, his website has more influence than it deserves, its a negative shaping force on crypto.
Source?
or another pathetic MONERO SCAM COIN troll?
Of course we know for a fact that Monero XMR whales pay to get XMR on exchanges |
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None of you have anything to say, you attack the poster or divert attention from points of view to ensure threads become petty.
You can't defend Monero at all.
There is certainly no organized scam, very little hype, and nothing of substance to attack, so of necessity the attacks lack substance. What a joke. There are, constantly 4 Monero threads in the top 2 pages at all times. Constantly rotated 24/7. That doesn't include all the other non XMR threads that are spammed constantly by the shills. Oh Yes! It is undoubtedly organised! |
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It's amazing they were able to create the technology and manage to fail so hard at their scam attempt.
I'd suspect one or more people behind CN fall within the autistic spectrum. The clear disconnect from how others would receive their attempts yet still being able to produce novel tech shows a clear imbalance in their mental faculties.
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Monero XMR buys hero member's accounts! Monero is a scam coin!
If you make it really really big, and red, it's obviously true. Good plan. It is illuminating how, after the "Every single coin is shit except monero" thread was forensically exposed as a lie, the Monero shills squeal like piggies! Btw - I don't agree with the OP that Monero itself or the devs are scam - just that there is an unofficial and concerted pump & dump conspiracy going on. |
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I am not - please let me know where I've been purposely abrasive, tongue-in-cheek poking notwithstanding.
You are not. However you choose to ignore and refuse to condemn the campaign of bile, vitriol and FUD against every other cryptonote coin by Monero trolls and shills. It is obvious to everyone else on this forum that their actions are not only damaging the whole cryptonote ecosystem but also your work in developing Monero. Its called Karma and you don't seem to be enjoying the reaction! |
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