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Has anybody issued a paypal refund and gotten it already?
I am considering canceling for a refund and buying some btc at these low prices instead.
I have 3 K16's on order 2 that are supposedly in batch #1 (order #528), if I refund for $750, I could get about ~8+ btc right now.
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http://www.bandwidthblog.com/2013/06/24/stanfords-startup-engineering-courses-final-project-build-a-bitcoin-powered-crowd-funding-site/One of the more illustrious tertiary education institutions in the United States now has an interesting course with an interesting final project. The course is called Startup Engineering and according to the lecturers, the motivation behind it is because it’s: “The class we wish we’d had before starting up our co/lab.” The final project to the course entails building a Bitcoin-powered crowd funding site. The syllabus consists of 50% technology whereas the rest is mainly philosophy. It includes some multiple choice philosophy exams as well as programming assignments. Stanford is as the epicentre of Silicon Valley, and the university says that academia teaches you how to solve a problem, but not which problems are valuable to solve. This is what the course is meant to do.  The final project requires the students to setup a Bitcoin merchant account and feature their own product through Selfstarter, an open-source Kickstarter clone. Bitcoin is an open-source digital currency, and its uses seem endless. Its value can be very volatile though (check out our in-depth analysis here, where we look at its value as a currency and its use as a commodity). Some South African companies have also taken to the platform to receive payments. https://spark-public.s3.amazonaws.com/startup/lecture_slides/lecture0-v3-logistics.pdf
Final Project: Bitcoin Selfstarter
● 100,000+ final projects present unique problems
○ Rank/score automatically, yet allow creativity
○ Enrich beginners, but challenge advanced students
○ Complete within relatively short course period, but simulate
as much of startup founding process as possible
● After much deliberation...
○ Selfstarter is an open-source Kickstarter clone (1, 2, 3, 4)
○ Allows non-dilutive crowdfunding via pre-orders of
product, as opposed to dilutive crowdfunding via equity sale
○ Bitcoin is an open-source digital currency (1, 2, 3, 4)
○ Allows anyone to set up a merchant account and accept
payments from anywhere in the world
○ Final project = your node.js version of Selfstarter + sharing + Bitcoin + [your product]
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I am looking at the link that you provided and I do not see anything related to bitcoin or the project that you mentioned, can you provide a better link or where you saw that information?
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BitCoin is NOT a currency. Any business is rolling the dice accepting BitCoin with how volatile the price is. With how rapid the price swings (mostly down), no logical business would/should accept BitCoin. No different than gambling. To my knowledge my dollar last week is still a dollar today, not true with BitCoin, you would have taken a hefty loss this week only!
Your reasoning that it is not a currency is because it is volatile? Have you seen the Yen recently? Or how about the NZD? May 23rd: 103.73 June 13th: 93.80 Today: 100.00 |
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This may sound like I am pessimistic and perhaps I am but I would say I am cautiously optimistic.
I think 1 year is definitely quite optimistic - I was thinking more like 18 months and then they say 'no'. Will been through a few m&a cycles too, I presume? |
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Personally, I will buy back VERY soon. Just waiting for the funds....
I would wait it out if I were you, I know I am, wait until at least the weekend clears and most of the panic is out of the market, we should then see a nice bump back up then another panic sell. If we get past $50, I would wait into the $20's or teens to get back in. The reason why I have this opinion is that allot of the btc traded is by very inexperienced traders (it seems to me) that have probably never been through a real crash and literally do not have the stomach for it. They will panic and let their emotions control their actions, just look at all of the "im panicking", "OMG why is it going down!!!!" threads. It will be nice to buy 10 BTC for $200.00 Just my two satoshi's |
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Just wanted to chime in here regarding the time frames that people can expect for approval on this.
IMHO, this will take at least 1 year from today to get approved, there are so many issues, regulations, etc. that need to be dealt with, not the least of which are, fincen, irs, sec, doj and many more, unless and until the winklevii bribe "donate to" a ton of congressman and senators to get this through all of the red tape will this get the nod from those up on high to allow this to be on their nasdaq or nyse or amex exchange.
What we really need here is all of the VC's that are putting fiat behind their btc start-ups to really push this as hard as they can and call in all of their favors.
This may sound like I am pessimistic and perhaps I am but I would say I am cautiously optimistic.
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Do people like being poor, oppressed and stupid? and what does the leader of the "free world" have to lose by keeping them dumb and addicted to the unsustainable pyramid scheme?
The answer to your question is YES, MOST Americunts are dumb, only interested in buying shit they don't need, find out who Justin Beiber is porking, or if Kim Kardashian and Kanye are getting along. Take for example the recent NSA scandal. NOBODY in the US is talking about it anymore. They just don't care, and politicians have made sure to undermine public education for the last 40 years to produce a race of super retards that will build things like the http://creationmuseum.org/ where you can see Jesus ride dinosaurs. It is the end. The fall of the Roman empire. Let's put it this way: 37% of Americunts can't find their oversized country on a fucking map ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-shehori/poll-37-of-americans-unab_b_150933.html). They are massively overweight, lazy and ignorant. They are herd, common brainless sheep, and they are fucked. My apologies in advance to the thinking masses in the US (an endangered minority). I am not talking about you, I am talking about your bible thumping redneck neighbor  While I agree with most of what you said (I live in the us), the perception that allot of people actually believe in the garbage that is spewed via the media outlets is simply untrue. The retards that believe in that crap are the vocal minority which grows smaller and weaker as the years progress. America the land of the free, we take all comers, even the retards... |
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My wife wants to "retire" from her job, I told her that it would be beneficial to our long term finances for her to make "some" extra money on the side in her spare time.
With that being said, I am looking for a true wholesale operator that can sell to us in USD (to start with, btc later on when I have enough) on a monthly basis. I have gone the drop-shipper route in the past and will not be considering any of those at all or any of the bogus doba like companies.
She nor I will not consider anything that is related to porn, guns, ammunition, knives or anything like that at all.
Your replies and leads are appreciated.
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buying 8 more please reserve in this miner will pay asap, thanks Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 6 nodes
Date: 7/3/2013 09:57
To: KnCMiner 2 Share 1WaNTKnCJzGACWZumFTvtKbD3PU25Ey4a
Debit: -2.40 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.00000001 BTC
Net amount: -2.40000001 BTC
Transaction ID: d5a68621a993cdcb914b6ce7f6318f1e7e0063bda7c223d41f11fbd29493bc9e
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Hi jmoore,
welcome to the board, as an fyi we also have msantori as a lawyer here and 1 more will definitley be in the interest of the community, thanks for joining.
What brought you to bitcointalk.org?
Are you personally or otherwise involved in bitcoin?
Have you been involved with prior cases involving currency, derivitives, etc that you feel would benefit the bitcoin community in anyway?
Would you be willing to share some of your case history?
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So I ran vanitygen and have made myself some btc addresses that I like:
example:
1BTCvwZtUbdcsuEVof42DqkmixjKdGn25a
So how do I import these into bitcoin-qt?
Also how do I get a short address out of this?
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Anybody know if bkkcoins does this full-time or is this a part-time weekend thing for him?
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Any update on the x86 version of this?
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Strange question coming. I don't know too much about ETFs but at least for Gold and silver there has been some manipulation. Can they do the same with BTC, and thanks to this instrument have JPMorgan short to hell all the Bitcoin economy?
If i get 20000 BTC on shares from this ETF. Can I use that as deposit for my own ETF? I mean, can one ETF be based on the underlying of another ETF, making in that way a BTC to exist two times (in paper) but reflect that on the market?
There exists funds of funds, that is funds that their underlying assets are funds instead of single stocks or gold or silver etc. But lets not get ahead of ourselves here, lets get this first one approved, listed, ipo'ed and trading before we start talking about funds of funds based on btc. I don't have any intention on creating an etf of an etf. I was asking if this will be away to remove the 21 million BTC limit effectively. There are some problems with ETFs at least with gold with some Gold chambers half empty that should be full. And two - three times accountancy where the same physical gold is sold several and several times. Is this the end of the 21 million BTC? I misunderstood your question then, regarding the end of 21 million btc, keep in mind tgat btc has 8 decimal places, we have more than enough btc for far far into the future. |
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I want to make it clear that these miners are going might possibly to ship this september.
ftfy |
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Strange question coming. I don't know too much about ETFs but at least for Gold and silver there has been some manipulation. Can they do the same with BTC, and thanks to this instrument have JPMorgan short to hell all the Bitcoin economy?
If i get 20000 BTC on shares from this ETF. Can I use that as deposit for my own ETF? I mean, can one ETF be based on the underlying of another ETF, making in that way a BTC to exist two times (in paper) but reflect that on the market?
There exists funds of funds, that is funds that their underlying assets are funds instead of single stocks or gold or silver etc. But lets not get ahead of ourselves here, lets get this first one approved, listed, ipo'ed and trading before we start talking about funds of funds based on btc. |
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