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8801  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is steadily increasing right? on: August 30, 2017, 02:43:11 PM
Probably there a lot more people coming in into the bitcoin community and try to understand how you could make money with it because mostly people only want that. I have read somewhere that if the price easily increases, the counterpart of it will probably faster in decreasing speed. We would never know how much can the bitcoins price go down.
8802  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we ever see bitcoin lower than 1000$? on: August 30, 2017, 02:38:18 PM
Bitcoin is already over 4500$ and is rising steadily. The market has gained enormous popularity with the increase in the demand of bitcoins. Well under under such circumstances I don't believe it to dip up to 1000$ as it doesn't seems possible right now.
i agree with you and we know that it hasn't come down too much when it reaches its all-time high. For me it wouldnt matter because i would like to always keep my bitcoins and not convert it into fiat money. It is definitely increasing in popularity especially when the price is still rocketing.
8803  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any good horror movies recently ? on: August 30, 2017, 01:40:52 PM
I have recently watched the Annabelle: Creation, and it has explained to me a lot of stuff that I noticed during the different movies with Conjuring. It's definitely one to watch because you will understand it too. That main point of the film is explaining the origin of Annabelle, and the original doll is included in the movie, I was shocked by that, but it's awesome.
8804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your first betting? on: August 30, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
Gambling has been a part of me since I understood bets. Like when I was still a child, me and my friends would bet who would win in a dodge ball game, or if we're watching something like sports, we would bet on teams. It's not all about money, it's also favors that we exchange.
8805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: August 30, 2017, 07:47:36 AM
Personally, i think this is the hardest thing to do with gambling, otherwise if it was easy all gamblers will win so much money, and to control greed on gambling there is one and only one way which is the experience !

Do you even think that by controlling yourself , you will be able to win alot of money? there is no correlation in controlling yourself and winning some money in gambling site. If you could win money by controlling yourself then pretty much I will be the first person that could win alot because I could control myself
Exactly, I think the best best thing we can get if we know to control ourselves is we will be able to minimize our loses, we might lose as expected but that is only up to the limit we set. Controlling is important when you are both in a situation where you win or lose because even if you are winning and you do not stop at the right time, you mind end up a loser.
That's all there is to it, mind control and also physical control would benefit us with the right terms that could lead to a better life. You could try and meditate on how you are going to be able to approach the problem you have whether you're greedy or addicted, it should come from within.
8806  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph Official Thread on: August 30, 2017, 06:49:29 AM
May mga naka experience na ba dito na nag cashout through Security Bank ATM and hindi nakuha yung money kasi wala ng pera yung ATM? Hassle kasi nareceive ko sa text na na receive na daw yung money pero hindi naman na dispense kasi wala naman ng pera yung ATM mismo. Hassle talaga.

ngyari na yan sa kapatid ko, ang ginawa ko lang ay contact support nila tapos halos 1 week bago nabalik yung pondo sa peso wallet ko kasi natagalan daw sa side ng security bank iverify kung may lumabas ba na pera or wala talaga

tama po c snub.. kontakin nyu lang po sila, tawagan or e chat. babalik din po ang pera nyu sa coinph account nyu. mag antay lang po siguro kayu ng mga 3 to 5 days from the day na kinontak nyu ang support.
Ang hindi ko lang maintindihan is yung security bank kontakin or si coins.ph? Pero anyways, na tawagan ko naman na sa security bank, iveverify pa nila then update ko na lang kasi may binigay na reference number. On coins.ph, wala na silang sinabi after eh, nung nag chat ako wala ng update. Operations team na daw nila cocontact pero wala naman nag contact sakin after 5 days
may mga ganyan talagang issue na hindi agad naaayos, minsan mawawalan ka nalang ng pag asa at hindi gaganahan sa mga pangyayari, sinasabi na aasikasuhin daw ng support pero hindi naman talaga.
Na experience ko na yang issue na yan. Sa coins ph ako tumawag kasi responsibilidad nila yan. Sila ang tatawag sa security bank para maayos , 1 week din bago ko nakuha yung pera ko. TIP lang , para di ka isnobin nag coins ph tawagan mo at kulitin para asikasuhin agad yung pera nanawala sayo.
Nakuha ko na yung pera ko ulit at naging maayos naman yung transaction. Nag sabi naman sila na sorry sa abala na nangyari kasi naintindihan naman nila yung sitwasyon. Tumawag din ako sa Security Bank mismo para ireport yung problem, after the next day naayos naman agad. Hindi ko lang alam kung si Security Bank ba nag initiate o si Coins.
8807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 30, 2017, 12:22:16 AM
Hi guys!
We all know that gambling is not only a fun but also potential danger. So are you limiting yourself somehow when gambling? DO you use casino's instruments to prevent you spending more money?
Or do you just limit yourself by setting a certain amount of money to spend? Or you don't limit yourself at all?
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
Yours OshiHugo, Oshi.io CM
I usually only bet when I see a good bet, its all about having control on knowing what and how much to bet, I can do 10 bets one day and on another one only do 1 or none. Its important for me to keep a stake every bet, depending on how confident I am.
I not only limit the amount of money that I bet but the time and the number of bets we need to try to avoid making of gambling an habit because once it is an habit it is going to be come really difficult to get rid of ti and you risk getting addicted to it.
I agree with you, that you should also count how many times you will bet but it will depend on the amount you are going to risk because if you do that then you are probably going to end up happy, not full of anger and bad emotions. You are also saving yourself from future addiction.
8808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather Vs McGregor: Info and prediction thread on: August 29, 2017, 02:10:37 PM
Expected thing happened, nobody surprised by this game and result. Mayweather could have finished before 10th round if he wanted to. The game could be less than 20 minutes but he didn't force himself. McGregor should stick to mixed martial arts, boxing isn't for him.

Thus is the reality and I think this game shows how boastful Mcgreggor is. But this fight satisfied everyone since many boxing fans, may or may not, are waiting for this fight. Many thought that Mcgregor might win the fight but seeing it, we already know who will win. Mcgregor even showed some moves that he is used in his fights at MMA, I think that give him some bad scores by the judges.

No one can really think the McGregor can pull an upset from Mayweather. Those who have bet for Conor thinks that he can upset, but logically Mayweather is too good boxer to lose this fight. Although Conor is boastful at the beginning, he should respect and congratulate Floyd for winning the fight. Of course they made a lot of money that night and they wanted more, that's why Conor now challenges Floyd inside the Octagon this time, but I doubt that Mayweather will accept it.

Congrats to those who bet for Mayweather, although you can only win small by betting for him, its still good. Yes, Conor should go back to UFC and try to fight Khabib or Diaz again.
For those who vote or bet for Mcgregor i do say that they are not analyzing too much regarding on the fight since we are basing on boxing rules then boxer would really have the advantage as always.
They do have different fields and Mcgregor cant really catch up on which mayweather do specializes in and talking hes been on boxing for how many years. Experience would be always an edge specially on his battleground.

Well there are times when you're betting that you don't really look at the statistics and the numbers and you just go with your gut feel. I did that and lost. Well i believed conor's got a legitimate chance though after it went 4rounds, i already said to myself he's not gonna win here amymore and the following rounds were mayweather rounds
It was definitely entertaining, knowing that it is one of the biggest fights and there is a crossover between two sports. As others said also, it was just about the money, that's why they call it the money fight. A lot of people probably bet on McGregor hoping for a big win, well, it wouldn't happen anyway so, still it was entertaining for me.
8809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: August 29, 2017, 02:03:38 PM
exactly, it is really a tough task to give up gambling. in someone wants to quit gambling then he or she must make up the mind with a strong determination. it is the only way of getting rid of Gambling. firstly, make a strong determination, secondly, choose an alternative way for being entertained or passing time. after all, gambling has been used for the mind pleasure purpose.
finally, you should carry out a routine work which will keep you busy in doing different activities. if someone could follow these procedures then he or she will succeed in this purpose.
It's definitely like any other addiction, once it has been an integral part of your life, it would be over for you. It's not as easy as one, two, three to quit, It's like how you said it, it requires a determined mind and also body. You might get urges but you need to fight it, hard. I hope no one suffers too much with any kind of addiction.
8810  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin hit 3500$ in 2018?  ??? on: August 29, 2017, 01:56:16 PM
I think it's definitely a bitcoin price hit $3500 in 2018. It's out of now, and i think by looking at the current price movements and from the previous time, in 2018 it will not be far from the $3500 price, even i think it will far exceed $3500 in 2018 i guess. We'll see later, hopefully Bitcoin can always giving a good hope for us.
Our expectations are certainly all the same, expecting an ever-increasing increase every year for bitcoin. By 2018 I think the bitcoin price is much higher could reach $ 6000 or even more. Because now we are obsessed with Bitcoin prices that pass $ 3500.
Bitcoin was already hit $3500 on the past few weeks and I think this bitcoin price was continuously raising up to $6000. I believe that before end of this year $6000 or up are the current price of bitcoin in the market.
Hopefully, it could rise to that price and keep on beating it's all time highs. It's never easy to predict but having the chance to see that what you're expecting is below than the actual, meaning the result is many times better than what you have thought of. It's continuing and it's going to the moon, lol.
8811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: August 29, 2017, 01:53:00 PM
In my own practices, i spent it for the sustainable development of my body posture. to sustain also my wants, needs. i used also my winnings in my study too. through my winning i will able to help my family needs. I invest also for my future life. gambling play vital role to our environment especially to the gambler nowadays, it is easy way to earn more money that you want. Eventually it is  international pastime to every gambler.
That too, I expect that someone could really do something good with their winnings, not just on themselves but for other people too, especially with family. I just don't agree with you that it's easy to earn money with gambling because maybe there would be a time you're lucky, and sometimes you're not. It still depends.
8812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 29, 2017, 01:50:09 PM
Limit ourselves to gambling? I do not believe that anyone can do it. Because now maybe we can talk about the limits. But when we play. can we? Lust will bring us into the boundaries within our boundaries
I do not agree with you. Anyone can limit themselves in any situations. It's just a matter of self disciplined and self control. Everything in this world has a limit because too much is dangerous. I can proved it by myself because I have self disciplined. I can control my lust especially in gambling.
If someone is really composed and keeps their word with themselves or towards other people, I believe that person could set limits to himself but if someone is just going with the flow with no plan at all, probably that person would try to gain back what he or she lost because they can't accept it or something. That still depends on the person.
8813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gift For Kid on: August 29, 2017, 01:44:51 PM
There are so many choices of gifts we can give to our kids. I prefer toys that are educational which they can learn while playing. So definitely not buying that kind of toy.

i prefer to asked them to play in the field beside buying toys for them because we can teach them how to communicate with each other and play with their friends. i won't buy a toys that maybe related with gambling because soon they will thinking and trying to playing gambling and they could hiding from me while they are playing.
I definitely agree with your idea on how you are going to raise your child. Clearly, you can buy them everything they want but you won't, but if you do, they'd grow up spoiled and that could cause a lot of problems in the future. I like the idea that they should communicate with other kids and play, not just on their iPad's.
8814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: August 29, 2017, 01:41:24 PM
Of course
especially if my parents know, then it will be a very shamefull thing for the family. because in certain countries, regions or cultures, that gambling is a bad thing and should be abandoned.

I understand those type of culture in such countries that sees gambling as something illegal or against to their laws. And if I were you, I'll follow your rules and laws so that you can be safe from any sanctions that is possible to happen when your parents found it out. I guess your hands are always itchy just to gamble on a single dice game.
Countries like that are probably just protecting their own citizens and they don't want people to start something illegal just because they lost everything in gambling. That's just not ideal, at all. Anyways, it still depends on the person themselves on who or what they are capable on doing when they get into a uneasy or difficult decision.
8815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: August 29, 2017, 01:33:01 PM
I play with my own profit, because it's not the difference in that I'll play with my profit, or I'll have to take other money for the game. It's money and it's up to me how I'll use them.
You are a very confident person. When you should think that gambling is a risky game. If you play emotionally of course you will only get cries only. Do not ever think that you will always benefit. Leave some parts to be that you can still live in tomorrow. If you do then you will lose all the capital you have.
It's like what he says, it's his money and he can do whatever he wants with it, knowing that he could lose all of it, It's his choice. For it to be engaging, you need to have lots of money so you could enjoy it, losing money would mean loss of appetite in gambling and that leads to emotional break down.
8816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: August 29, 2017, 01:25:13 PM
Actually, I prefer trading, because it is more likely to benefit from gambling. Well, besides, I can also relax in trading, because we can target the price that we predict. so all we do is wait.

I like the part that you have said about relaxation when you are trading. In gambling, the phasing is very quick all the time, you have to make sure that every bet that you bet will be having a good result. And even how fast the result will be displayed you need to be ready with it, unlike in trading it takes time and you can think about it and you don't have to rush with it.

This is also called as an investment. Buy some coins for less price and waiting for right time to sell. Here we have very less chance to get the loss. But in real trading, we will get many loses. That means in day trading it is not possible to make an everyday profit. It is like gambling how we will not win every game like that we will not make a profit at every time. Still, i will prefer to do Trading because it is a professional way to earn bitcoins and more profitable to compare gambling.

Yes trading is an investment and this is everyone's source. Only few people that doesn't know how to trade because there's a lot of choices of alt coins where you can start your own trading career. Don't get it wrong, chances of losing in trading is high too if you miss the right time to sell and your coin start to be dumped all way down.
Theres always a risk even on trading because it is not a safe haven on which you can make profit anytime just like on gambling which do really rely on luck but somehow on trading you can maximize the probabilities of making profitable trades. Trading is really an investment because once you got the the proper skills and knowledge then this thing would really good for long term.
The major difference between trading and gambling, for me is that in trading, you could do a YOLO trade like you're going to go all in, let's say trading all you're bitcoins to a single altcoin, hoping that it would go up. For gambling, if you do that same YOLO bet, It's completely all or nothing.
8817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: August 29, 2017, 01:20:56 PM
The time for me to leave the game is when i know that i am already losing a lot, because there is no point in playing anymore if you are losing because the more you want to win back your loses the more you will lose until you will not be able to deposit again to get back all your losses.

There is no point when you realize that after you have lose alot, Im pretty sure that you will only have a small amount left after that so whats the point? You should stop once you lose everything anyway but make sure that you only bring a small amount to gambling site or atleast what you can afford to play with
For me there is a point when you lose a lot and that point is that you should stop. You shouldn't give everything to gambling knowing that you could've done something else with the money that you have. Yes, It's fun to gamble but it's certainly fun to have money rather than nothing. I agree with you that everyone should play gambling with the amount you're willing to lose, not more not less.
8818  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph Official Thread on: August 29, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
May mga naka experience na ba dito na nag cashout through Security Bank ATM and hindi nakuha yung money kasi wala ng pera yung ATM? Hassle kasi nareceive ko sa text na na receive na daw yung money pero hindi naman na dispense kasi wala naman ng pera yung ATM mismo. Hassle talaga.

ngyari na yan sa kapatid ko, ang ginawa ko lang ay contact support nila tapos halos 1 week bago nabalik yung pondo sa peso wallet ko kasi natagalan daw sa side ng security bank iverify kung may lumabas ba na pera or wala talaga

tama po c snub.. kontakin nyu lang po sila, tawagan or e chat. babalik din po ang pera nyu sa coinph account nyu. mag antay lang po siguro kayu ng mga 3 to 5 days from the day na kinontak nyu ang support.
Ang hindi ko lang maintindihan is yung security bank kontakin or si coins.ph? Pero anyways, na tawagan ko naman na sa security bank, iveverify pa nila then update ko na lang kasi may binigay na reference number. On coins.ph, wala na silang sinabi after eh, nung nag chat ako wala ng update. Operations team na daw nila cocontact pero wala naman nag contact sakin after 5 days
8819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: August 29, 2017, 08:52:14 AM
You should ask them why they hate bitcoin. Just let them talk about it and if you deemed them just to be lacking the fundamental knowledge, educate them. Because it might just turn out that their hatred for bitcoin stems from false propagandas or other things that make bitcoin look bad so in that way, you would have introduced another person to the beauty of the blockchain technology.
It's not that easy to convince people that something is good when they already heard something about it. It's for the people who don't like Bitcoin to discover it on their own so they would understand it on a deeper level and it shouldn't make someone addicted to something but an adequate amount of it. Well, it's based on the great technology created like you said.
8820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: August 29, 2017, 08:02:38 AM
If ever i will in gambling, i would definitely buy a new car. At least i have a remembrance from the money i gambled. Or maybe i'll travel outside the country and take a lot of pictures for a souvenir.

Your wish to come true then you must need to win big jackpots not a small amounts. I suggest don't waste more money in gambling to win those big jackpots instead try your luck sometimes with a small amount because it is not so easy to win these jackpots and we must be very lucky for that to happen. I wish you good luck...

I agree but the question was "What would you do with your winnings?". Gamblers do win sometimes, right? And sometimes they win really big, like millions of dollars. Well, if I ever win big I buy myself a nice car, a nice red car to be more specific. Smiley
Ha ha. Yes it is compulsory to something big if you had a huge win. It is often predicted that gamblers only loss and they had nothing do with any winnings. It is not true in every case. They win and even win a very huge amount but I think gambling is not that much profitable. You can do something better to get your red car Tongue
For me, I think it's a reward for your hard work in gambling lol. But in reality, it makes your ambition in gambling heavier and you could become more dependent on it and it could really make you lose relationships with your family or even just your friends. It's not something you would want because no one can really live alone, you would still feel lonely even if you have lots of money.
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