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Mark Zuckerburg dumps $1 billion into LiteCoin.

Uncertainty at the quantum level is just because there is not enough knowledge yet to explain everything. Not that I am saying there will eventually be that knowledge, but there is likely an explanation behind it beyond our current understanding.

Just like how the rain gods produced rain. It was uncertain exactly which ritual most pleased them.

How long until D-wave (http://www.dwavesys.com/en/dw_homepage.html) mining is obsolete?

Such rudimentary quantum technology.

The way you present it, there can be no irrationality because there is a reason for everything anyone does. The neurons have a path that they traverse and there is a reason that such a path exists. If you get down to the most microscopic level everything can be explained.

This would counter the Jurassic Park explaination of Chaos Theory where the guy takes a drop of water and drips it onto the girl's hand stating that the path the water takes cannot be predicted becauase Chaos Theory dictates that in complex systems, the outcome will be different every time. But by your definition, knowledge of every particle, every skin cell, the size of the water droplet, the slightest shift in air particles during the drop means that there is a rational explaination for the water going one way or another.

While this is true, most people look at things from a more broad level and not at a microscopic level.

In theory, if you knew the exact position and velocity and direction of every micro-particle in the universe you would be able to predict everything that would ever occur from there on out. But that would take a lot of ASICs to do the calculations.

Yes, I have seen that you plan on planting a garden and creating some fuel from corn. And the billions you will make from writing for Devcoins that you get 1 per 1000 words which are worth about a penny each.

Why even ask for $10,000 from people in the first place? Why not just create all of your wealth through mining and distilling and writing for Devcoins and buy the property yourself. Then just give people plots for free. I mean, a house, computer, TV, free printing and publishing, welfare for citizens and veterans, non-traditional education...that is probably much more than $10k per person, plus your private island, radio studio, university, radio studio, bus fleet, restaurant, state of the art medical facility, hatchery, man made lake, church, government paid salaried church employees, etc...that surely comes out to at least a few billion dollars. $2 million is just a drop in the bucket. You have the fundraising for all of this all figured out. Just throw in free plots too. Hell, I am sure people would be fine with just half a plot for free...that is only $5,000. Maybe they would forgo the free computer and TV in exchange.

Or are you planning on making the people of the town work and not get paid for their labor?

Ahh, from the way you talk it sounds like you have several billion dollars. So all of this free stuff you plan on giving away will need to be produced by the people that move to your town.

Have you ever considered running for Congress?

You get a house, a free computer and a free TV. For $10,000. You are quite generous with your large wealth. Are you broke right now because you just gave away Teslas to a whole neighborhood or something?

So everyone gets a free house?

I read earlier in this thread that in order to share in the communcal food everyone has to work. I assumed that was for housing too.

Can you give me a free house even if I do not move there?

What if someone is poor and handicapped and cannot work for their home? Are you going to violate the Americans with Disabilities Act?

That is a different person from the OP.

Your whole theory falls apart thanks to this:



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QED

Ahh, that makes sense. Which would be the reason MtGox, a Japanese company, ran into legal trouble serving US customers on the government currency side of things.

Thanks.

Of course, because I am not seeking legal advice from you on a public forum. I am just asking for a general sense.

Like all of these bitcoin gambling websites, certainly if they were running in the United States there would eventually be legal hurdles to deal with but if they choose another country to run their servers are they safe, even as legal citizens.

As someone who is opening up a website that could potentially put a powerful dent in government itself (my sig), I have considered ways of bipassing the meddlesome US government and the potential destruction that it tends to do to businesses that do not have 24/7 lobbyists in DC.

So, considering you are in good company in the United States thinking that regulation is a good thing. Would it be wise for bitcoin businesses to completely bipass the United States if they do not have to deal in government money? Say, like moving the website to the Bahamas and set up a corporation down there. Or would that bring some legal risk to the owner if they were a US citizen?

I agree, the economy will collapse and anyone holding government money is going to be severely hurt.

If only there was another currency that would not be affected by such a collapse that we could move to.

Not true at all.

-Elwar's personal forum poster

Predition:

If FinShaggy does not instead to move onto is next project after Bitcoin town, which came after Bitcoin church, which came after Bitcoin reality show, which came after Bitcoin restaurant, which came after Devcoin talking animals project while putting together the Bitcoin island project before the Bitcoin space project and the Bitcoin nation on another planet project...FinShaggy will take a weekend trip down to New Mexico and take some pictures of some empty property. He will speak in terms of "we" a lot, even though it is just him and his bong.

He will try and try to get that first person to fork over their $10k, but the suckers that do not see this for what it is do not have the money and those that do have money would never trust someone like FinShaggy with their real estate investment. He will come to the great realization that if you do not have the money you can just give him what you can and work off the rest when you get there. This money will fund his next project which will tie directly into the Bitcoin town, really. More than likely a new strain of Bitcoin weed that the Bitcoin town will grow. Of course, much testing needs to be done first.

I was part of a much more popular project in New Hampshire where we had over 50 people willing to put $10k toward about 10 acres each. We had someone on the ground spending countless weekends checking locations for us, working on all of the legal requirements, formed a corporation, worked with lawyers, his dad did large real estate investments for a living and he was being trained to do the same, having just graduated starting his career. We had narrowed it down to 2 or 3 properties when the call for us to start following through with our pledges, all of the legal paperwork was faxed out to those that were willing to invest, everything was handled transparently, a treasury report was provided, some money was spent on the formation of the corporation and other legal documents that were also viewable by anyone.

Unfortunately, those 50 loud voices demanding various things and talking about their big plans turned out to be all talk. Only 3 of us (including the guy putting in all of the legwork) put up our $10k. After a few months of nobody else putting up anything he posed an option to the two of us for another investment or just return the money. I requested my money back and the other guy opted for the investment. A few hundred bucks was trimmed off for all of the legal stuff that was paid for which I agreed to and we all moved on.

All of this and there were not even grandiose promises of free stuff for everyone. Everyone was free to do what they want and if a few people wanted to come together for other projects it was up to them.

You will find that people online are all talk. And when it comes time to put up the money, they do not have it.

How many people posting in this thread that support this idea even have an extra $10k to invest? $10k that could be used to put a downpayment on an actual house that you could actually live in instead of $10k for an empty lot that you will be living in a tent on (forgetting the whole idea of having a job to buy food, pay for phone, Internet, car insurance, gas, saving up to actually build a home, etc.). Banks do not give out loans for land btw.

Everyone can join FinShaggy in his town by heading here: tor://silkroad.com

I worked on military "mesh networks", otherwise known as ad-hoc wireless networks. We were working with stationary blimps to help with line of site issues in mountainous regions (in conjunction with UAVs). I only worked on simulations though. If you go to the border of Mexico (Fort Huachuca) and also out here in the Middle East you will see blimps up in the air...I am not sure if they are just for recon or if they also have routers in them.

Hmm, about the only thing that I ever hear libertarians saying that the government needs to prevent is force and fraud.

Can someone be ripped off without fraud?