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8841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 11:33:16 AM
Nice work, jwinterm. Good-looking and functional GUI wallet.
 Cool
I will get around to trying the new GUI soon.

Can you please elaborate on what the version cutoff is for a "deprecated" wallet? (My apologies if it is in the readme or something)

To be honest, I'm not sure, but I think it is basically if you created a wallet in April or May. The current workaround for deprecated wallets is to use v0.8.8.4 to import the keys file and update the wallet, then you can use it in v0.8.8.5/6, but it will be fixed in the next simplewallet release. I'm pretty sure if you have an electrum seed for your wallet, then it's not deprecated.

My compliments on your work. To be clear, this still takes a lot of your RAM or doesn't it?

EDIT: I had to much beers, if I am reading the text correct it shouldn't eat up your RAM. If I can give you some advice, I would make the "tabs" horizontal instead of vertical, bit hard to read now (could be the alcohol, but still Tongue). Another point, if you create a new wallet the seed will be stored in a plain text file without encryption. I would advise to make some kind of announcement everytime you create a new wallet to encrypt to file or to make it a default thing to encrypt the textfile with the seed.

Thanks dEBRUYNE. I will try out the tabs horizontal and see how they look. There is (should be) a message that pops up everytime you create a wallet though, saying this info.txt file has your seed and you should delete or encrypt it. Maybe I should change the name of that file to "DELETE OR ENCRYPT THIS FILE IMMEDIATELY.txt" Tongue

If you delete it, it is a good idea to use a "secure erase" or "shred" type utility. Otherwise the contents may stick around in file system free space. Less of an issue for SSDs, depending on OS and other factors.

8842  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: December 14, 2014, 11:27:53 AM
The discussed bet about Monero is ambiguous. Define the "exist" metric.

It isn't really ambiguous. It's a English word that has a pretty well defined meaning. Any nodes or any users still using it, or something very close to that.

That is meaningless, because any one can make some nodes.

Not if the code doesn't even work because catastrophic bugs are uncovered and no one is maintaining it.

In any case I see no reason to belabor this. You already said you estimate a 5% chance of a million users, so clearly you must think there is far more than a 1% chance that it exists at all (maybe we define that as 5000+ users, which of course would include the 1m user case).

I think the original claim was trolling or if sincere then the oddsmaker is a terribly inept one. Either way not worth much attention.
8843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 11:14:53 AM
HI,Everybody,pls help me
My xmr wallet can not sync.I get the following errors:


014-Dec-14 21:20:37.969435 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:21:37.093539 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:22:36.077242 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:23:34.982946 [P2P9]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:24:34.107049 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:25:33.231153 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds

Which version are you using?


Dear smotth,I use the latest versio 0.8.8.8.6 from OP

We'll have to figure out what's gone wrong with the built-in seed nodes, but for now you can use one of these options on the command line:

Code:
bitmonerod --seed-node 198.74.231.92:18080
bitmonerod --seed-node 182.92.68.201:18080
bitmonerod --seed-node 37.187.75.56:18080

You will only need to do that once, after that your p2pstate file will have everything it needs to connect to the network.

8844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 11:08:29 AM
I thought you would be able to use the seed words to re-create the wallet using simplewallet, Am I wrong?

That is the plan but there are some bugs that needed to be fixed to actually do that; the current simplewallet build isn't quite up to the task. Some of them are fixed in github and some are waiting to be merged.

However, as long as you have your seed words recorded, in the event of a sudden failure of the site, you can be sure the fixes would be pushed through (even someone other than the core devs could do it) and you would indeed be able to recover your coins.

The current issue with the site will be resolved shortly so no reason to go into emergency recovery mode just yet.

8845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 11:03:17 AM
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MyMonero is temporarily offline for emergency maintenance, and will return within a few hours

nothing critical, i hope...

Nothing related to coins as at all. It is a network facilities issue.
8846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 07:58:05 AM
I'm pretty sure that most of these scam ICOs, if not all of them, involve the scammers running their own BTC through the ICO and ending up with both the BTC and the coin. So a disguised premine, with some extra BTC (but a much smaller unknowable amount) from idiots as a bonus.
I confirm from acquaintances: ICO are faked.

On a particular machine, sure. For example, if you are swapping lot, that will indeed happen on lot faster on a SSD, so it will speed up, but the underlying cause of the bigger slow down is the lack of RAM. People were talking about many minutes to an hour for a save. That is not pushing the limits of any HDD sequential speed, at all.
Old machine: Mintbox, 4Gb, 5400 RPM HDD, 4Gb. More than one hour
New machine: Laptop, 4Gb, SSD. A dozen minute top.

See bolded above. SSD helps a lot if you are already short of RAM (which at 4 GB, you are). Bump up the RAM on there and a dozen minutes will be down to a minute or two (more or less regardless of drive).


I like you smooth, and I love that you are a XMR dev, but I will give 2 XMR just to see you admit that you were incorrect, for once.

You are (unsuccessfully) arguing that the write speed of a drive is irrelevant to the time required to write a file to a drive.  Huh

I think you need to learn what fsync does and whether or not there is one in the daemon.

But this is off topic for the thread, so let's stop now.
8847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 05:40:08 AM
HI,Everybody,pls help me
My xmr wallet can not sync.I get the following errors:


014-Dec-14 21:20:37.969435 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:21:37.093539 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:22:36.077242 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:23:34.982946 [P2P9]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:24:34.107049 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
014-Dec-14 21:25:33.231153 [P2P7]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds

Which version are you using?
8848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 05:09:21 AM
And now 4 giga fucking byte is considered short...

Valid point, but I'd just say that at 4 GB you are pretty close to a critical point where even a small increase would have a disproportionately large benefit. The blockchain on disk is currently 3.2 GB. I don't know how that translates directly to in-RAM usage but I guess it might be slightly higher (or at least higher including other code, other applications, etc.). So you are right on the cusp of it being able to fit in RAM with a bit left over for I/O buffers and not being able to fit (i.e. swapping). 6 GB would probably be much faster than 4 GB and 2 GB is definitely much slower (I've tested it).

Summary: I recommend 6+ GB for best performance currently, 2+ GB for a bare minimum (with questionable at best performance). 4 GB is in between.


I have not upgraded RAM because we are getting the new DB soonŽ.  Is it correct to assume that 4GB will be sufficient for good performance with the new DB?

4 GB is plenty for that. Problems are still being found in testing (that's the point of it cf course) so it is good to be realistic about "soon". 4 GB does work (and as David pointed out, quite reasonably with an SSD), so not really an urgent issue in any case.

8849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 04:53:17 AM
And now 4 giga fucking byte is considered short...

Valid point, but I'd just say that at 4 GB you are pretty close to a critical point where even a small increase would have a disproportionately large benefit. The blockchain on disk is currently 3.2 GB. I don't know how that translates directly to in-RAM usage but I guess it might be slightly higher (or at least higher including other code, other applications, etc.). So you are right on the cusp of it being able to fit in RAM with a bit left over for I/O buffers and not being able to fit (i.e. swapping). 6 GB would probably be much faster than 4 GB and 2 GB is definitely much slower (I've tested it).

Summary: I recommend 6+ GB for best performance currently, 2+ GB for a bare minimum (with questionable at best performance). 4 GB is in between.




8850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 02:53:06 AM
I'm pretty sure that most of these scam ICOs, if not all of them, involve the scammers running their own BTC through the ICO and ending up with both the BTC and the coin. So a disguised premine, with some extra BTC (but a much smaller unknowable amount) from idiots as a bonus.
I confirm from acquaintances: ICO are faked.

On a particular machine, sure. For example, if you are swapping lot, that will indeed happen on lot faster on a SSD, so it will speed up, but the underlying cause of the bigger slow down is the lack of RAM. People were talking about many minutes to an hour for a save. That is not pushing the limits of any HDD sequential speed, at all.
Old machine: Mintbox, 4Gb, 5400 RPM HDD, 4Gb. More than one hour
New machine: Laptop, 4Gb, SSD. A dozen minute top.

See bolded above. SSD helps a lot if you are already short of RAM (which at 4 GB, you are). Bump up the RAM on there and a dozen minutes will be down to a minute or two (more or less regardless of drive).
8851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 02:36:50 AM
thanks smooth, i'm re-downloading the blockchain and try to resync again...should i remove old p2pstate and poolstate files once i put in the new blockchain?

2014-Dec-14 10:16:47.867387 ERROR C:/bitmonero/src/common/boost_serialization_helper.h:108 Exception at [unserialize_obj_from_file], what=basic_filebuf::underflow error reading the file

Looks like a corrupt blockchain save file. Unless you can restore it from a backup you will need to download a new one, or resync the whole chain.

I don't know why it happened. Maybe you ran out of free disk space while saving it? That is just a guess.



Unless you have other problems you can leave them

p2pstate - list of nodes to try to connect to
poolstate - unconfirmed transactions sent by you or others
8852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 14, 2014, 02:24:20 AM
2014-Dec-14 10:16:47.867387 ERROR C:/bitmonero/src/common/boost_serialization_helper.h:108 Exception at [unserialize_obj_from_file], what=basic_filebuf::underflow error reading the file

Looks like a corrupt blockchain save file. Unless you can restore it from a backup you will need to download a new one, or resync the whole chain.

I don't know why it happened. Maybe you ran out of free disk space while saving it? That is just a guess.

8853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2014, 07:39:17 PM
BCN price is easier to keep propped up, because it is doubtful that more than 5% of the supply has ever been in the hands of the public (others than the BCN team).

XMR is more subject to market forces, since the number of people holding more than 1% of the XMR is rather large, and any one of them may decide to call it quits and dump. Similarly the existing, or new, people can buy. Trying to either suppress or pump the price in this environment are losing propositions.

Smartest thing I've heard you say in a month. Welcome back. Wink

Exactly Smiley

Anyway, I have been really busy lately, whatever has come out of the discussion to change the mining rate of Monero?

Its not going to happen.
8854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2014, 07:35:56 PM
I dont understand what is wrong with BCN (apart from no one talking about it on this forum). It is not listed as premined on coinmarketcap

It was a "secret" (aka ninja) premine so coinmarketcap can't really list it as a premine. Scam in any case.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.0

8855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -> Monero Community Hall of Fame <- on: December 13, 2014, 09:36:02 AM
Thank you GreekBitcoin, Jungian and everyone for the donations.



8856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 13, 2014, 04:26:19 AM
Can someone explain to me who only occasionally watches Monero why it's going to shit pricewise? When I took a look at investing into monero but didn't it was at like $2, now coinmarketcap says it's trading at $0.37. WHY? Is Monero still working, is it still an untracable, anonymous crypto? Was it overtaken by a competitor? What's happening? I heard there was some trouble about attacks on the network and anonymint claiming he has broken monero or something. What's the state now? Monero looked super promising to me. Is there any real goods market for it? Shouldn't it attract certain types of markets for it's anonymous properties?

Would be happy to hear a short summary or at least link because there seem to be quite a of very long threads to read through to get informed.

There was one attack, but that happened before the price drop and was quickly patched, and the bcx/anonymint noise turned into much ado about nothing. (BCX was nothing but pure FUD bullshit -- probably run by a competitor. Anonymint now supports ring sigs as the most viable method of anonymity, as far as I can tell, though some minor tweaks continue to be needed in his view, and I don't necessarily disagree.)

Since that time we have added a web wallet, fixed a bunch of bugs, released a few test versions with a database, and now had someone launch a Monero version of localbitcoins. Still, the price drops.

No, the only reason it is going all to shit pricewise is simply supply and demand and nothing about the tech at all. There is a lot of mining and we just ran out of people who wanted to accumulate (in the current overall pretty negative crypto-environment). At this point the only way to find buyers for the mined coins is for the price to drop where people will average down. Until some equilibrium is reached, whenever that might be.

Better discussion for the Speculation thread though, since there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the technology as you say. It is all a market effect.
8857  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: December 13, 2014, 02:08:04 AM
The discussed bet about Monero is ambiguous. Define the "exist" metric.

It isn't really ambiguous. It's a English word that has a pretty well defined meaning. Any nodes or any users still using it, or something very close to that.

As far as another bet on a million users or something, i don't have a strong opinion on it, so no reason to bet. I just have an opinion on 1% to exist in two years and that is absurdly low, essentially a trolling statement  (which I guess worked).
8858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 13, 2014, 01:30:36 AM

hey xmr peepz, been a while since i was around. saw a new update. i have all my xmr on a piece of paper, ie my old seed from the last version ago.

is it safe to upgrade my existing install & can i still sweep my old xmr's on paper since the number of words has changed? (Meaning will --restore-deterministic-wallet still work with wallets created on the older version? Just can't afford to lose a lot of xmr/money ya know, i'm in long myself, so i don't care about todays' price to be honest)!

Thanks, this is one of my fave threads, but it's so large i have to keep coming back and i can't keep up! Sad

In theory this is supposed to work. There was a bug which I'm not sure whether or not has been fixed. If not then you will have to restore using an older version of simplewallet then you can use the wallet with the current version.
8859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2014, 01:24:06 AM
Ethereum will have a 60 second block time so any contracts traded using it will be pretty quick.

60 seconds is not "pretty quick" for real time trading. For something more like shapeshift, it is certainly fine.

As you say, the advantages of being trustless may outweigh the very slow trading, and lack of HFT might turn out to be an advantage, but I see this as being very questionable to assume.

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It's going to be 2015 in a few weeks. 2015 is already here.

Exactly!

Anything that isn't here already might well not be here (or not scale up enough to have much impact) by 2015. So that gives Monero a shot to be relatively high impact.
8860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 13, 2014, 01:17:37 AM
Yes I have only 4GB RAM which seems to be an issue but when saving the blockchain my task manager says my HDD is maxed @ 100% which is 8 MB/s.  No I did't forget a digit. Embarrassed

Yes it is maxed out doing all the swapping, since you are short of RAM. For swapping which is random access 8 MB/sec wouldn't be unexpected.
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