What kind of sports stadiums will it have?

Will we be trying to attract visitors by having a professional sports team?

And I propose an alternative song:

The rotten bones are trembling,
 Of the World before the War.
 We have smashed this terror,
 For us a great victory.

We will continue to march,
 Even if everything shatters;
 Because today FinShaggy hears us,
 And tomorrow, the whole World.

And lies in ruins from battle
 The World lies in ruins,
 But devil may care;
 We build it up again.
 
And the elders may chide,
 So just let them scream and cry,
 And if the World decides to fight us,
 We will still be the victors.
 
They don't want to understand this song,
 They think of slavery and war.
 Meanwhile our acres ripen,
 Flag of freedom, fly!

We will continue march,
 Even if everything shatters;
 Freedom rose in FinShaggyland,
 And tomorrow the world belongs to it.

In FinShaggyland we vote on everything.

1 vote for red FinShaggyland flag
0 vote for white Bitrustica flag

In FinShaggyland you do not need a government because everything is free!

And for anything else, it is voted on and enforced by a police squad. And no government in sight! Except you have to get permission first from the mayor if you want to do something with your land. And you cannot build your house above a certain height or the non-government will send the police squad. And the school, which will not be run by the government, will be non-traditional without lectures but dirt bikes will be made legal. It will all be spelled out in the town's constitution.

I propose this as the flag.



The big star represents FinShaggy and the four little stars represent the four lucky people that get to be co-founders.

5 votes in all so that one person (hopefully FinShaggy) can be a tie breaker.

How did I know.

Why stop at a town and an island. Space is where it is at. You should definitely have a launching site in town to take you up to the space colony.

Town name should be FinShaggyland.

Awesome!

So here are a few suggestions:

Computers...everyone should have one no matter how poor. TVs too. The town should have its own channel to push the town philosophy.

Exercise programs in the town square every morning.

Children could play a great role helping out the community, even if just telling on their parents if they do not follow township rules.

We could have a town founder day and celebrate at the non-denominational church with statues and offerings.

Free health care should be a priority. It should be known that if you have any illness or sickness, this town is where you should be to get healed.

Val Kilmner lives in New Mexico, will you be contacting him to join us?

What will be done for the poor?

Should big corporations like Exxon and Monsanto be allowed to build businesses there?

Will there be a way to prevent people from polluting the air? Or preventing light pollution or sound pollution?

With no taxes, how will garbage service get paid for? Water service? Sewage? Fire department, hospital, ambulance service, street lights, etc?

If someone does not have a car that runs on biodiesel, what can be done for them?

The only places in the water that are outside of any nation's exclusive economic zone (where the country still has control) are at depths of several miles deep with waves that can reach over 100 feet.

To try to think that you can create an island by dumping a bunch of stuff is just insanity.

Ellis Island which was created in water at a depth of several feet was created using the dirt from all of New York City's subway system.

To create an island that big in the ocean would require millions of tons of dirt, you would have to dig a second Grand Canyon to do so.



You have these "grand schemes" that other people have already taken on and are working on and you just act like it is no problem and you just need to create some videos and it will get done.

The Seasteading Institute has been working on this for almost 10 years with millions of dollars in funding and research. And they are at least 10 years and over $200 million away from building a real seasted while BlueSeed is a few million dollars away.

Do you think that if they could build an island they would not have done so already?

Hell, even the young guy that I worked with to do a large land purchase in New Hampshire knew enough to know that we would need to form a corporation in order to have several people share ownership of the property and he was being coached by his father who did such purchases for a living.

You just want everyone to give you some money then you will buy it and promise to split it up afterwards. It just does not work that way.

I cannot believe I fell into the troll's trap.

Well played sir.

Before anyone thinks that FinShaggy's Bitcoin town idea is in any way libertarian, read this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.msg2269803#msg2269803

Is part of your plan to raise $200,000 by getting people to watch your countless Utoob videos?

Ok, once again...good luck with your commune. Just be careful not to publicize this as New Mexico is hostile toward such efforts.

In 2003 Clay Douglas of The Free American was trying to organize a "patriots' village" in an abandoned mining town in southwestern New Mexico. When the government got wind of it, the local Senator Pete Domenici arranged for the town to be taken over by the feds to use for "counter-terrorism training."

So you will be funding the public land that will create enough money to fund a communal fund that could potentially be used to buy solar panels, FPGAs, ASICs, an island, a fleet of busses, etc?

How many millions of dollars are you going to be paid in June?

Or do you have a scheme in mind on how to get a couple of million really quick?

The Federal Reserve has been around for a century, it took a lot for people to even find out what the Federal Reserve is much less that it should be ended. All of our fighting to get even an audit of the Federal Reserve took two presidential elections with that as the main focus to get a watered down bill passed. The audit showed that they were pouring money to foreign governments and still there is no glimmer in anyone's eyes of getting the Federal Reserve shut down via Congress.

Bitcoin is creating an alternative. It is doing more to the Federal Reserve than has been done in 100 years. We can tell that they are intimidated because they are starting to use their tools to try to stop Bitcoin (The Fed's biggest tool though, besides the media, is war...so do not get too comfortable).

Instead of ending the Fed we are creating a better alternative and bipassing the Federal Reserve. Potentially, this could lead to the end of the Fed as the better alternative wins out.

Could this be the path forward for other government services?

Create a streamlined, open source, distributed service for all communities?

Take fire departments for example. I lived in a county where the fire department was private. They provided the best award winning service of the whole state and every home owner received a discount on their insurance rates because of that fire department. The cost was either $20 a month or a maximum $2,000 for putting out a house fire (which was also covered by insurance).

If we were to take the standard operating procedures of this successful fire department combined with mass purchases to cut down on costs and other streamlining procedures we could probably get that same service offered in many more communities at a lower cost. The towns where they are set up may already have a city fire department but if people are willing to be covered by the new fire department their insurance may go down more than the price per month making adoption easy. And with a fully operational fire department in town, come budget time the town leaders may be more apt to not pay to keep their old fire department going.

And that is just one service that could be replaced.

The key is to have the alternative already available to people before talking about getting rid of the government service.

So my 1/200th investment would not result in getting 1/200th of the land?

So this small community would share the solar panels, ASICs and other such possessions?
Would the the work and income from such pursuits go toward the communal fund?

Such a lifestyle sounds quite unconventional.