Yeah but not 2021 maybe late 2022 even early 2023.

So the hash build out could be delayed for as much as  20 months.

Say good supplies in March of 2023.

I would say that would be the most optimistic projection.

Maybe 30t March 3rd 2023.

If that happens miners will end up with 2-2.4 years of solid mining.

But it is an optimistic guess.

The first real clue will be the L7 model due in Nov 2021.

Yeah wrong al gore rhythm but if they make a ludicrous amount of them it would be a sign chips will be had.
If they make a small amount then chips would be scarce.

the L7 makes 200 a day on 3200 watts
the s19 makes 40 a day on 3200 watts
the e9 makes 140 a day on 3000 watts.

so if you can not find chips for the L7 whichs earns a lot more per watt than the s19 I think sha growth will stay very slow.

I apologize in advance for mentioning the other gear for other coins but the availability in nov should help us understand just what is happing chip wise.

I did a review on those cases. they are really nice and cost over 1000 usd for a case.

they hold 12 slots

if they run 3090fe cards you can squeeze in 10 cards. they case would do around 1 gh hash.

they mention 9 billion which would be 9 cases.

it would earn 9000 x 7.7 cents a day

the plug n play cases would be 10k
the 90 x 3090 would be  135k

so 145k invested before power setup.

they would burn 🔥 2.9 say 3kwatts a case or 27kwatts an hour that is 20000 kwatts a month which matches .12 x 20,000 = 2400 in power.

you need a 400 amp 240 volt circuit box.

with 10 x 20 amp circuits for the gear.

sounds like the dad did this and used the kids for tax purposes.

A gpu can not mine it.

A gpu can mine eth and you can trade eth for usdt at coinex and then trade usdt for it.

it was btc abc.

you can mine it with an s9  you can downclock it to be quiet .

but I think you can get more of them with a gpu to eth to usdt to xec.

Unfortunately some mod with zero sense of humor and history deleted my

homage block of threads.

set at

50k
55k
60k
65k
70k
75k
80k
85k
90k
95k
100k

sad so sad.

I will lock this one and not bother with one for 50k.

proudhon wins thanks to the mods.

oh well.

That is pretty fucked up.

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Maybe you need to 'splain ur lil selfie a wee bit moar better, philip? #nohomo

What you are implying is counter-intuitive.  Are you saying that the anticipation of lower fees will help status quo miners to profit more because such status disincentivizes new entrance from coming into mining?

Seems to me, in and of itself, lower fees means that miners should be less happy, less willing to mine, more likely to create BIGGER operations, less likely to have smaller operations even try to compete for what fees are available (presuming most of the payoff for mining thereby comes from the current 6.25 BTC rewards rather than fees).
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First off kind of drunk and filled with a 56 oz dry aged porterhouses steak.

So lets do Proudhon homage the 45k thread is now done.  we went from aug 19 to aug 30.

Unfortunately my homage was deleted by evil mods.

but these will go into effect at least in my mind

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Now to effort an explanation as to why low fees can help miners.

If we can simply get low fees and drive adoption of btc really high right now price can go to the moon.

Ie

  100k
  200k
  400k
  800k
1600k

these numbers are not impossible and low fees could allow for huge spikes in price.

Since no chips mean not a lot of new gear the crazy diff movement of up up and way is held back for rest of 2021 and 2022 maybe into 2023

So

18t diff 46k price = great for miner
21t diff 64k price = great for miner
25t diff 100k price = great for miner
29t diff 200k price = great for miner
32t diff 400k price = great for miner.  at  this level and above for diff will likely flatline if achieved in 2022 or even 2023
40t diff 800k price = great for miner.
50t diff 1600k price = great for miner.

So if low fees mean huge adaptation price could truly moon as many hope.


but my day is made as proundhons 45k thread is dead.

I really wish the mods had left my locked slots of threads  alone.  no fucking sense of humor or history on their part.

Tricky , but maybe very very very good for mining.

At this moment

whyfly = 1x 3060 pd for it.

fyoung55 = 1x 1080ti

and

kingkernel = 1x 3060



ncsupanda

pm an offer for the L3+



I will look for s9k prices on ebay


Okay

ncsupanda wants the L3+


@ kingkernal

please pm me when allowed.

buy and hold doing a one shot buy is the highest risk you can do.

dca buy and hold reduces risk greatly.

mining sucks until

A) you get a good power deal.
B) you paid off the gear.

If a and b is true mining is really fucking good.

This may have been his best work.

I also liked Porco Russo.

Danny go to viabtc.com

they show you  what they pay per th.

about 35 cents of the top of my head.

So a s17 pro using braiins software can do 50 th at 2 kwatts

so 2 x 24 = 48 round to 50 kwatts a day. that is 50 x .13 or 6.50 a day

and 50 x .35 = 17. 50

17.50- 6.50 = 11 in the black. but costly to buy a s17pro.

two s9 set to 10th each will burn 1600 watts or about 40 kwatts a day that is 5.20 power cost

they earn 20th x .35= 7 a day

that is 1.80 in the black but much cheaper to buy.

Pm for more info.

it is likely a bank advert try to hurt btc

I have lots of rigs. I don’t rent them I mine them for myself.

so use smos pay 2 bucks a month use a dummy email.

point to nicehash and mine to a btc address.

you can do this anonymously.

until you convert the btc to cash.

Sold the L3+
sold the evga 3060
sold the second evga 3060
sold the 1080ti blower card.

I shipped all but 1x 3060
I will ship it on thurs.

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1 antminer L3+ with bitmain apw3++ psu

2 evga 3060 they do 37-38 on simpleminer  full paperwork.
1 is kind of sold.

1 antminer s9k it runs hot 🥵 so I detached the center board and it hums along doing 9th
if you have a cold place the center board should work.

the antminer l3+ is over 1300 on eBay as buy it now. https://www.ebay.com/itm/185021935655?

I would take any decent offer ie 1000 or more.

the evga 3060 go for over 675 used on ebay

I would take any decent offer ie 500 or more. 1 is kind of sold.
I have full paperwork on them they are warrantied for 2.5 more years.

the s9 k not sure how to price it.

two solid boards and likely three in a cold place has value.

make offers.

i will only ship to USA the lower 48 states.


I looked more
and maybe a blower style 1080ti will be listed.

so we moved to +4.8%

about 30% in

quick math

25/18 = 1.388

1.388 x 48 = 66.666

so even a five percent diff jump in ten days keeps us ahead of spring price of 64k

Its late I just spent 3 hours driving to a sick relative. Two accidents made a 95 minute trip about 180 minutes.

I do not know florida rules for solar.

grid tie in is a must for usa miners and every state and each and every power company has different rules.

I do not know what connection you have with a solar installer.

But if you can do 50 x 400 watt panels that is 20k watts an hour.

fl is a six so 6 x 20 is 120 kwatts a day with good grid tie in rules.

so maybe 5 kwatts an hour. surely 4.5 an hour for free.

you could do 2 big rigs 🚛.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356556.0

those rigs above are costly maybe 25k
the solar maybe 30k

so 55k out of pocket.

zero to run

right now earns 1400 x 7 cents or 98 a day.

in a year 36k
in 1.5 years  54k

and those are generous numbers.

No trips for bud this round.

but the parents and the crooks names are exposed. So they will always need look over their shoulders wondering if this guy that spent all this time and effort to track them down will or won't hurt them.

Yeah and xec is up to 0.00017389

I went in at              0.00002700 I pruchased 2 million  about 55 usd and mined 3.3 million

I sold the 2 million for   about 0.00014 or 280 and I am holding over 3.3 million coins

all in about 1 month