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8881  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The kill/trade game on: May 25, 2013, 03:14:13 AM
Do not fear my loyal subjects, I have not abandoned you! I had to tke a brief visit to the hospital, BUT: things should be back up and running this weekend.

Kill/trade game is dangerous.
8882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Will we reach the point that people do not even know they are using Bitcoin? on: May 24, 2013, 11:18:10 PM
With the services being built around Bitcoin, I could easily see people using Bitcoin without even knowing that they are doing so.

Maybe a website where you buy "points" and you are able to buy things with those points but in reality you are buying mBTC and the site is paying merchants in bitcoins.

Or a bitcoin card that does everything on the back end in bitcoin but the user does not necessarily refer to it as Bitcoin.

Maybe major financial institutions will start moving large amounts of money back and forth via Bitcoin for its compatability and ease of transfer.

If that happened, how do you think the price would be affected?
8883  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness on: May 24, 2013, 10:56:54 PM
The right to pursue happiness is implied with the right to liberty. That wording was a comprimise in the Declaration of Independence from its original Life, Liberty and Property.

Bitcoin helps with liberty in that you are able to live free economically. With government money that is not the case.
8884  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin and terrorists on: May 24, 2013, 10:52:31 PM
Not any time soon.
8885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price skyrocketting!! $266 here we come!! on: May 24, 2013, 09:28:19 PM
$133...half way there!
8886  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 24, 2013, 09:24:59 PM
Are you saying that anyone who does not pay taxes and still uses government services is a thief?

No. Just those who don't pay their entire required share, as laid out by the law.

So some people can not pay taxes and use government services and not be considered thieves and other people can not pay taxes and use government services and be considered thieves?

Are those people forcing the government at the point of a gun to provide those services?
8887  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 24, 2013, 09:19:06 PM
Dude, we don't "execute violence against those who did not consent" except those who are in jail/prison.  This is a modern country.  We ended slavery one hundred fifty years ago.

"(pointing a gun at people)"

Facts or it didn't happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Elaine_Brown

April 2007
 On April 24, U.S. District Judge Steven McAuliffe sentences Ed and Elaine Brown to five years and three months in prison each for concealing earnings and failing to pay federal income tax on nearly $2 million of income. Neither of the Browns appeared in court for the sentencing.

May 2007
 On May 18, Ed and Elaine Brown are reported as stating they do not intend to appeal their convictions on federal tax evasion charges. They said they have abandoned "man's law" and now follow only the rules and laws put forth in the Bible.
 
June 2007
 On June 7, police, SWAT teams, and armored vehicles are seen gathering in a field near the Browns' home. United States Marshal Stephen Monier confirms that one Brown supporter was detained near the Browns' property. Several sources later identify the Browns' supporter as a man named Danny Riley, and state that he was detained while walking the Browns' dog, Zoe. Monier's office later releases a press statement indicating that the government agents were not raiding the Browns' home, but were in the area to serve a warrant for the seizure of Elaine Brown's dental office in West Lebanon, New Hampshire. (Subsequent testimony at trial revealed that this operation was in fact an arrest attempt.) In the evening of June 7, Riley records a video describing his encounter with and detainment by federal agents earlier that day. In the video Riley claims that one camouflaged agent fired two shots over his head after he fled from the agent once happening upon him hiding in the woods near the Browns' property. Riley claims that after being tackled and tasered, he was threatened with 15 years in jail by the FBI unless he told the media that the siege was expected and planned for, and was not the outcome of an abortive attempt to serve a warrant.[
8888  Other / Off-topic / Re: Truth on: May 24, 2013, 08:44:16 AM
Lies.

Unicorns are real if you just believe.
8889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price skyrocketting!! $266 here we come!! on: May 24, 2013, 06:46:17 AM
Based on the fact that Bitcoin will be worth $10,000 by Monday I went and told my boss he can take this stinkin job and shove it where the boys at the gym shove it. I then threw my computer through the window and kicked it when I got outside on the way to my car.

Early retirement baby!
8890  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Pentagon points towards Mecca on: May 24, 2013, 05:20:03 AM
If you make a line from its northernmost side and extend directly southward through the southernmost point it runs through Key West.

Most likely has something to do with cheeseburgers in paradise.
8891  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 24, 2013, 03:17:55 AM
sorry Osama I shoot you in the head.

and I laugh an evil laugh.

Woo hoo!!! USA! USA! USA!

8892  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 24, 2013, 01:13:24 AM
wants to allow a quasi-currency to fund terrorism.  Nor do I.

The drug war does more to fund terrorism than anything Bitcoin could ever do. Only 20% of Afghanistan men can read. Do you really think they are using Bitcoin? I live among them, they do not even know how to use a toilet properly let alone a crypto currency. Whoever is telling you that all of these restrictions they are putting on Americans' freedoms is to help stop terrorists is blowing a lot of smoke up your ass.
8893  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 24, 2013, 12:59:26 AM
No they won't.  It's easy to think the US government is some evil group who shoots at non-tax payers but there is no evidence to support that.  

All the government does when you don't pay taxes is seize your assets.  They do not shoot at you or take you to jail or point guns near you because we are a civilized people who do not jail paupers.  You are spreading FUD.

Tell that to Ed and Elaine Brown who tried to live peacefully and free but because they did not pay taxes were survailed by SWAT teams and police for weeks for not paying taxes and then finally attacked. And when they chose to defend themselves (as a free person will do when attacked) they had more charges thrown against them and are now in jail for life.

Or Irwin Schiff who had all of his property seized and was taken away to jail after being in front of a judge who said "I will not allow evidence in my court room".

They take you to jail.

Do not ever claim that America is the land of the free as long as people cannot live free without being kidnapped and held prisoner.
8894  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 09:57:54 PM
Tax could be considered theft, if you were not already aware of the deal for employment in your country.

If you are not willing to pay a percentage of your income in tax, you are not allowed to work. 

Just spending bitcoins incurs a tax when the value goes up compared to the dollar, no employment required.

And just because a government has its rules of theft if you perform your daily activities does not mean that you consent to the theft by performing your daily activities. We are born with inherent rights to life and liberty.
8895  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 09:42:27 PM
If you don't like paying for the "society" you live in and benefit from, thats OK too. It just makes you a freeloading societal leech, much like a welfare queen or career criminal.  

If/When you don't pay all of your taxes, you are stealing from the rest of us who do. You can try to justify it all you want, but the truth is YOU are the thief, not the government.

Merely living does not imply consent to be robbed.

Please do take away all government services, including the SEC, DEA, CIA, IRS, DHS, FBI, FDA, EPA, NSA, TSA, DOT, CPS, Foreign Aid, bank bailouts, automobile bailouts, welfare, warfare, and everything else.

Are you saying that anyone who does not pay taxes and still uses government services is a thief?
8896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Financial Times have a Bitcoin only section on: May 23, 2013, 09:31:16 PM
I have noticed that the Financial Times always posts negative articles about Bitcoin. "Why you should fear Bitcoin", "Bitcoin won't last...", etc..
8897  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Alpha] Killer App for Bitcoin? BitPools - Vote with your bitcoins on: May 23, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
Or take one from this forum's signatures. It is not that much of an issue and the way you do it gives some protection. I only thought your statement was pretty bold.

True, I had not thought about people who's addresses have been emptied. But that is a gamble on how long it will be before someone has BTC in that account.

Though all that gives you is access to a group through your pledge.

But that is a good thought, maybe a requirement of verifying your address within a few days of registering would be good. There is not much point in registering if you do not plan on joining a group.
8898  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Alpha] Killer App for Bitcoin? BitPools - Vote with your bitcoins on: May 23, 2013, 06:01:04 AM
Question:How do you prevent your website from being used for assassination market-type deals and other nasty stuff?

I have considered the different types of illegal activity that such a service could be used for.

I do know that the terms of service need to be concrete to avoid most litigation. I will likely add that the use of the site cannot be used to initate force against anyone. Just as a community can pool their money to build a park, they could pool their money to hire a security team (police) to enforce some bad laws. Non-initiation of force covers most bad things people can do to each other. But it certainly needs to be hashed out.

Though in theory, people can do all of this coordination outside of the website but they could also pool their money together outside of the site as well so I doubt they would come there just to do the final stage of pooling their money if they are already coordinating outside of the site. Also, if it was all coded messages and such they could do the same with any crowdfunding site calling a bomb an "algae farm" or whichever.

And the proposals will come from escrow services which will be viewable, if someone creates the proposal of assassinating someone (or any use of force) it can be easily pulled before a vote goes through. And most escrow services will be vetted, mainly for the sake of the users that the money will be transferred to someone trustworthy.

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Finally, have you considered the possibility of starting this website as a Tor hidden service and/or as a Freenet site, possibly in combination with having it run on a normal public website;  simply to reduce the possibility of legal retaliation in case a terrorist group uses your service and the government decides to make a public example of you?


I would like to move it more and more toward decentralization and anonymous as the concept becomes more hashed out. But starting out, I think the concept is so new that there will be some growing pains as we all gain a learning experience from this. I am no Satoshi Wink
8899  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The kill/trade game on: May 23, 2013, 05:05:56 AM
Peace, trade, and honest friendship with all users — entangling alliances with none.
8900  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What is the place that lets you use Bitcoins on Amazon? on: May 23, 2013, 04:59:19 AM
BitSpend

https://bitspend.net
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