Yup using an escrow is safe hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

TRUST SYSTEM?
See my earlier ha ha

Not the scammers fault?

Here is a thought.. Don't trade with shit heads here.
Problem solved.

Then what does your trust rating here mean after that?
I could care less if I had -999
What difference would it make it?
If I wanted to buy or sell coins I would go to an exchange or LocalBitcoins etc.
Anything else I would look elsewhere than dealing with scammy fuck tards here.

Maybe quit being low hanging crypto fruit?

Is there any legit reason to buy or sell anything here ever?
Not really..
And if there is just do what I do and that is deal with people you already know and trust.
Anyone trying to do shit on a notoriously scammy forum is an idiot that gets what they deserve.
Don't like it?
Go to a forum that disallows scams maybe morons.

And aside from greedy buying selling schemes what does the trust rating here do for you?
Unless you are having it used for some purpose it then serves no purpose.

Topic?

I couldn't care less.

I see this and other topics are being reposted..
If you don't get the reply you want wait.. And post it again huh?

Cuban is a piece of shit.
Of all people on earth he should know better.
I lost any respect I had for him.

Max Keiser around still guys? LOL

Future means what now?

And you noobs getting here late are blissfully unaware of a massive Altcoin recession that hit us hard for a couple years.

I seen a topic from kid who said he told his mom in late 2013 that this coin crap was on fire..
She lent him 5 grand and he bought namecoin with it.
His topic was asking us what he should do because it had been many months of the coin dropping in price and all coins were too.

You see loud mouth little expert noobs..
You have no clue how many people took a huge nasty loss.. And walked away from crypto a broke loser.
You sit there and act like it never happened.
I know it did because I seen the same story and watched it beat us down as I too was trading..

Before you got here chanting about Altcoin future like a fucking moron.

Profit is the loss of many.
Profit does not happen unless a bunch of guys lose.
Where is your "future"?

If it hinges on profits then you are in a lot of trouble investards.
For one thing you are impatient brats.
If the price tanks are you going to hodl for 2 or 3 years waiting patiently?
Fuck to the no..
You are going to take a loss then scream scam and bitch & moan flipping sides on what ever coin you were previously shilling.

Listening to people here is a waste of time.
Most are scammy morons.
.

I think there is something wrong with you.
I never brought up anything about you losing money at Cryptsy.
I mentioned how I did not fully believe your claim of being there a long time ago.

And yes he has been frugal with the truth because he said he quit and had an NDA and since all kinds of things have happened such as Cryptsy closing..
You really should read the topic LOL
Economical of course but he has divulged more than anyone else about what happens behind closed Cryptsy doors and rather than focusing on the info given you jump to making a determination as to who the good guy or bad guy is.
You seem obsessed with coming to some be all end all conclusion over the personalities behind Cryptsy and are simply jumping to conclusions and posting your opinions on it as each bit of the story is repeated back to you.. An old time user.

You will notice two things..
Horus and BitJohn have stepped up to say a lot.
The others not so much.
I appreciate that.
I am not looking to pounce on the staff if they show up to speak either.
I have been suspicious about Mullick since all this started for example but if he wants to come and talk I won't give him a hard time.. Too much LOL

You all can realize one thing shit bird's..
Horus and BitJohn have both numerous times PM'd me to say they saw my commentary..
And apparently they could "get" what I meant to some degree unlike you JollyGood hahhaha
And?
They have both said it was because of my comments that they are going to be commenting publicly.
Get it?
You HAVE info to debate about because I teased it out of them in a fair and sincere way while trying not to be overly judgmental.
You are welcome guys

I've spent a lot of time way back with these guys talking about doing laundry or what we were eating for dinner everyday while flippin coins for profit way before JSHock showed up and the late 2013 rush of NOOBS piled in..
I was with these guys when crypto was a quiet peaceful place aside from drama occasionally from the usual guys such as myself or HippieTech or iGotSpots..
And funny enough I was ALWAYS the bad guy and probably considered Cryptsy's no. 1 thorn in their side.

I am known for raising doubt and asking too many questions.. AKA: FUD
They all knew I was sincere and not simply trying to pick on people to be a jerk..
But simply trying to be provocative and have a healthy exchange about all things good or bad.

I don't care about e-friends or drama or trust ratings or profits or anything.
I just want to see a digital currency like Bitcoin used world wide.

Summary?
JollyGood you came out of no where claiming to be from Cryptsy way back and I am not the only one who questioned that.
You have a weird air about you.. I can't put my finger on it but something is off.

And I was right wasn't I?
What 20 years old?

I will get right on chillax'in bruh..  

No idea how you got that from what I said..
And I quoted this because it's shorter.
You and many others are quote pigs.. Funny we were talking about this in meta.
You also seen me post a picture and have ever since tacked one on to almost all your posts.

Your behavior here is odd.
I can also guarantee you are fairly young
And I am skeptical you even used Cryptsy way back in the old days like you claimed.
If you did then I would not have to tell you who BJ is and give history lessons..

BitJohn stated he quite long ago and I created a topic on it.
So for a chunk of time he didn't even work there anymore.
So that that sort of ruins your weird little conspiracy.

What I was eluding to earlier is that BJ said they had to be US govt compliant.
If they had a request for a user's info they they would make up some shit to stall the user such as claiming network problems then hand over their info to the Fed's.

And that is standard across crypto too.
I warned you all that was going to happen loudly before it did.
I called it in 2013.

Later most exchanges now have a verified policy in effect.
And I told you why..
Ask Artem from KickAssTorrents why..

Unlike everyone else I refused to go along with the AML shit.
I stopped using Cryptsy and left.
You all handed over your ID like idiots.

I believe in crypto ideology.
You idiots "say" you do.. BIG fucking difference!

BitJohn left Cryptsy and had some scathing things to say about it..
Horus was still there crying FUD and muttering about lawsuits with JShock for another year or two..

BJ stated the obvious.
Something that has been under your nose all along..
Care?
Of course not.. As you all love to say "I need to get paid"
Ideaology sure as hell won't stand in your way.

Look around.. Damn near all the exchanges do AML shit.
Does anyone care?
Nope.. They are happy being govt compliant.
How else are you going to make money from shitcoins?

Me?

I don't.. Pretty simple.

Oh and neither does BJ because he quit a long time ago also.
You?


EDIT:
I agree with the Gamow too.. I was thinking that all along as well.

I post like I'm in an episode of the A-Team.
I know starting I gotta help the people I just don't what I'm building yet.
Gonna make a van into tank?

It was funny looking at this with my tablet..
I could not read it until I zoomed in..
But i knew I was quoted by the "poem form" paragraph formatting I used.

It's important to be you on the web.
There is too many boring chuckle fucks out there crying about bad words or NSFW posts etc.
The web is a crib now for a legion of boring losers.
How many sites can you say fuck anymore?
When I started on the web heavily in 1998 roughly it was common.
So..
It's not just this forum that changes in time but the whole pussy wiped scammy self entitled brat millennial douche web.

That picture was funny though LOL

AND.. I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER!

When I started here there was no such thing as an ICO.. Or a. SIG campaign.
I also was stuck in the nooby jail section.

Things have changed drastically

And the lack of a show of force makes it look like theymos approves of it all.

There is a variety of problems ongoing that seem to grow larger..
And all I know is I vote "punch in the fucking head" ahahahah
Oh yeah I forgot.. And account banning etc too LOL

It's a forum for fuck sakes not a business.
Or is it?
If theymos let's everyone else monetize this place then it's fair to speculate he is getting a slice of the pie above the donation money
Which I was told in 2013 was over a million dollars back when BTC was sub $50.

In other words it seems like he likes it this way.
I'd be curious what his thoughts are on some of these common complaints..

Ripple was was fined by FiNCEN for a reason guys.
And BlockNET scammers got 1 million for their ICO too..
Then puttered around for a year doing nothing then spent the money they said on some other coin..
So.. Why does BlockNET STILL get a free pass?

But yeah tag a scammers new projects.
And if course they have a good trust rating.. This forum is a gamed circle jerk where scammers control armies of accounts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg20027991#msg20027991

You have any idea how many flippant snotty NOOBS told me they have been here for many years but never registered?

So bullshit.

Murder is impossible to enforce so should we simply drop the law?
That logics is a cliche here.
That is what people say about scam coins.

I seen that retort defending every aspect of bad behavior here lots.
Pick anything..
Then some idiot says we'll.. It can't be stopped.

Bullshit.

If enough people are seen getting a hard punch in the fucking head..  I can assure you most will think twice.
VS...
Doing literally nothing at all.

Do you even smart?
People who defend bad behavior are bad people.

I can't believe the level of shit that has risen up here on this forum.
Have you all been to another forum before?
I've been in many and run some of my own and moderated in some big ones too and NOTHING like this has ever happened.
This is a retarded shit show from hell.

I was a Mod at cs.rin.ru

I was banned for scratching my ass at Neowin.net more than once.
Here?
WOW.

Let me point out how half the sleazy little pricks here say this is their job.
They say this forum is their business
Many say they have no other income.

Theymos has a sticky warning user's about PayPal charge backs but..
Says nothing about the widely known fact it is a violation of the TOS.
And that when caught PP will seize your account and take your money..
And... Launch one hell of a nasty hellish investigation (mine was about 2.5 mo's long)
.... Leaving all the user trading in the market section ripped off.
These guys told me they know.. And they have been caught but simply create a new forum account and a new PP account them continue on... Even if the previous account ripped off users after funds were seized.
The market section has a large dedicated user base involved in fraud.
We have known since 2012.
When it happened to me in late 2013...
I Google searched my PP email and I ended up seeing a guy with the same exact email POSTED HERE from PP in 2012.

This is now nothing but a scam industry..
Not a forum.

To be honest it's such a shit hole of greedy penny pinching shady scumbags I could care less if I was banned.

The place is effectively usable in many sections and at best iratating.

I did not sign up here to start a shady shit small business by account farming etc.
I joined because this was a forum on crypto currencies.

So you tell me who is the forum for now a days?

Fix it.. Or suffer the consequences.
It's bad enough as it is.
How much worse do you want it to get?
How many older legit users leavenuntil you care?
As long as they are replaced by shady Altcoin sleaze balls throwing money around then who cares?
Take your pick.. Scammy NOOBS or crypto currency SUPPORTERS.

This is not my job.
I did not sign up to start a business out of my forum account here.
So who is theymos backing up.. Us or THEM?

Nope.

Ethereum is scammy in every way possible.

Further more ETH's market cap got to where it is via heavy manipulation.
Then it was inflated even more after that by scummy shit heads..
Chanting it has a better market cap.
Hey chucklefucks.. You are stupid.

The perception of a market cap is just that.. A view point.
Historically NOOBS they are manipulated on a scale far grander than any stock market IPO is.
Market manipulation in the stock markets gets you put in a jail cell.
In crypto you are celebrated as prince of crypto.

You are sleazy idiot douche bags knowing full well you are portraying a dishonest picture to new users.
But since literally no one anywhere gives a fuck if the facade is real or not it doesn't matter.
Fake bullshit and lies are not a problem if it is paying out Bitcoin / FIAT profits.


You people are fucking dirt.
You are here jumping on coin number 2 ..what ever that may be collectively inflating the price because of two reasons.
One you think Bitcoin is too expensive.
And two you are using the no. two position coin as a vehicle for profit.
Essentially a pyramid / ponzi of sorts.

Bitcoin has real usage and Ethereum does not.
Bitcoin is used in a large variety of ways as a currency.
Such as.. Buying ETH scam coins for profit.

Bitcoin's market cap is reasonably real.
ETH's is not.

You all do not know the history of crypto.
You are NOOBS and idiots.
You could know but you choose to plug your ears.

You.. And your coins are scammy.
If Spoetnik coin was ranked as coin number two you all would be chanting about it having a future too.
You came here and bought what ever had the next highest cap after BTC.. WHICH ONE WAS OF NO CONCERN TO YOU ALL!

And what exactly does a fake inflated market cap RIGHT Now have to do with a coin having a good FUTURE?

NOTHING.

You have no defense of any kind what so ever to post here ever.
None.

You and your coins are scammy pointless garbage for profits.. Nothing more period.

And that my NOOB investard broken English kidiot friends is irrelevant.
The price of a coin is of no concern.
The only thing that matters with a currency is if it gets used.
If it does not? ..then it is in fact not a currency.

So what is it then?
A digital ICO "fuel tokens" not a currency profit "coin".
Which translated means scam.
And I say that easily with no doubt what so ever..
Because all of crypto agreed on that criteria long before you kidiot scumbags got here.

If you created a clone coin for nothing more than profits it too would be considered scammy.
So why is it if you tack on a gimmick then manipulate it into having a large market cap it's legit?

You are full of shit.
All you do is chant currency and one day.
Bitcoin has been out for 8 years and Ethereum had it's scammy rigged manipulated ICO launch in 2014.
Far before you NOOBS got here jiggling your little profiteer dick holsters around.

All you do is chant one day and then talk about literally nothing at all but profits and coin prices and market caps.
Not adoption or real world usage by average people.
You are fucking full of shit.
You are stupid scammy NOOBS peddling a fake market cap scam ICO coin for profits chanting one day to new users here showing up who then also buy into the fake facade so they too can chant one day and count their money.

I look forward to seeing the repercussions of your poor actions.
You deserve what you get investards.
And I will be drinking your tears like Gatorade fap'ing to your scammy ass misery.

PS:
Remember when guys were selling trade advice for AUR?
REMEMBER WHY?
IT WAS MANIPULATED INTO JUMPING THE CAP STANDINGS.
AND IT WORKED TOO.
IT WENT TO $14 A COIN.

REMEMBER?

NO YOU DON'T BECAUSE YOU ARE SCAMMY IDIOT NOOBS.

Oh and any NOOB douches with an ICO sig have zero credibility here.
Get a job at McDonald's little kids..

How many votes did I get?
And what is the topic about again?
Something about Jew's and NAZI's and women's rights?

I hope you realize you been scammed..
Elian Gonzalez is STILL in the closet!  
And that is not a shock emoticon but an open mouth.

Hey theymos.
Can you see the topic about account farming?

This place is mostly bots and farmed accounts and other misc crap..
Ever looked in off topic before?

You tell me..
Do you like choice A or chose B.?
And I am dying to know what your favorite color is..
Do you care?

Ahhhhh now I see what WO is..
It is a walled garden where you can escape the rest of the fucked up forum LOL
So we're ignoring it?
..sorry then no one told me.

You line Up to say YES..
BUT you all do not "use" altcoins.. You exploit them for profit.
So if you say yes.. You mean yes they have a future and that is?
Profit.

It has nothing to do with a used and adopted functional on launch digital currency.

It is about jumping from shit to shit for profits.
And then saying that is in some way good behavior.

They have an ear the guy said earlier?
Who's?

..the profiteer

I was not being personal.
Being a NOOB means you are a NOOB.
I worked my ass of to get my rank.. You didn't.
And when I show up at a new forum I tread lightly knowing then I am now the NOOB.
It is not a personal insult.
It is a fact.

You NOOBS know fuck all.
But you speak the loudest.. About things you know nothing about.
All so you can profit off of scammy garbage.
Few NOOB account are sensible about this but when they are I have no problem giving them their props.

I have never seen a forum where people show up shooting their mouth off like experts with their very first post.
That is unique at this forum.

You NOOBS here don't show us older users a shred of respect.
I get told off with swearing and insults regularly by your kind.
It's been happening for years too.

NOOBS... MOST OF THE TIME YOUR OPINION IS WORTHLESS.

When I started here I was stuck in the nooby jail section.
I was blocked from showing up in ALT Main spewing bullshit with a sig campaign.

Want personal.
How about you NOOBS are not liked or wanted here?
That is how I feel.
I don't like you.
You bring nothing of value to crypto.
You are selfish short sighted greedy little piglets.. Pissing all over crypto for some quick chump change whale scraps.

If you want your opinions to be valued then you are going to have to work at it.
You will NOT be given the benefit of the doubt.
You are a noob.. So know your place.

Pearls he did though.. There used to be a nooby jail..
I know I was stuck in there for a bit when I registered here.

I concur mostly.
The place is over run and SIG campaigns are a key problem.
Why not just ban them?
Idiots don't need to make pennies with them.. They can get a job at McDonald's.

And freezing account registration is a great idea.

For me it sucks looking in some sections.
How can I use the off topic section when it is abused like that?
The section is rendered unusable.
Does that section even add to your activity here?

I suspect most users claiming their account to was stolen are lying.
I don't think account sales should be allowed.
It is an avenue of scam now.

These scammers and spammers know how to game the system here hard..
And instead of making the NOOB jail time limit longer it was Removed.
I still can't believe they ditched it.

But yeah if theymos needs help to get the ship running right then ask.
A lot of people would be willing to help how ever he wants it.

It was BitJohn quoted on this topic before from years ago about the cold storage practices.
More than likely what he was told..

Vern is the one who should be doing the explaining here.
And his hiding from this does not look very good.

I just don't think it was started initially for scammy purposes.
But people run a business to make money obviously.
I think at some point Vern just wanted out and seen crypto in a long rut.
His level of guilt is questionable a bit.. But he is guilty of wrong doing for sure.

And I am not trying to be frugal about it either just saying 99% sure speculating from an outside perspective is not the same as being 100% sure.
I think Vern was the hacker most likely and he had Mullick help him with the Lucky7coin shenanigans.
It could have played out differently but that was my first thought when I heard about the hack.
Why would Mullick be running downloaded new shitcoin binaries?
When he said in the past he compiles them.
And that bit of hacked code was not in the coin on launch either..
It was a newer commit where that IRC code was added.
A lot of it doesn't seem right for the hacker story..
If Vern was infected why did he not state publicly what malware was installed on his network?
All known malware is identified by name.
And what security was he running?
The hack claim is monumentally vague..
I know because I had to fix people's computers who were infected for a living.

And it goes on and on..
Such as Vern claimed he did not know who to contact about it.
But BitJohn mentioned AML related requests on them..
Uhhh duh?
Any agency would redirect him to the FBI etc.
Had he made the call evidence could have been collected.. On his PC's.
And as the guy said earlier.. The other exchanges could have been alerted and money frozen etc.

So yeah best i can tell Vern and maybe others also were behind it.

What baffles me is the money never moved.
And will it?

No sane person would delete or lose the private keys.
I contend someone is deliberately avoiding touching them but could.

..just thinking out loud (in poem form) 

PS:
Cryptsy China..

No you give me YOUR cock!

Funny story but vague..

Hey what is the crime here?
Well if they used a condom that would be a sin and they would burn In hell for eternity.
So there's that.

But everyone enjoys a little ass play every now & then..

And Priests should be allowed to get their dink wet.

How did your account get hacked and what was your password.

To those of you defending this.. Define what YOU think is an Altcoin scam then.
I made a topic on ideology not long ago so we could all discuss it..
I got 0 replies.
You guys refuse to talk about the issue of morality.
And it is in fact tantamount in an unregulated scene.

When I got into crypto years ago I was surprised at how this was all so much about morality.
It is an issue that you can not escape..
And it will be a learning process I soon learned.
I started out believing in FTC babble ignoring that it offered nothing different than Litecoin.
I quickly dumped my support for it and learned a lesson.
I learned many and had to grow as a trader in many ways.
It does not matter if you are young or old.. We all have things to learn with this stuff.

I had to increase my standards in time as to what coins I would support for profits.
I had to draw a line in the sand I would not cross..
Then redraw that line lots.
The ICO itself was an easy decision..
I have never supported any of them and I never will.
They piss all over the idealism of crypto.

And support is in fact trading coins for profit.
And don't forget we have children here being exploited.
And foreigners who do not grasp English.

For example my room mate is from Guatemala and he applied for a job..
He got a call back and he couldn't figure out what was going on.
I had to listen to the cell message left then call the employer for him and then translate etc.

That.. applies here.
If Coinmarketcap and Poloniex list Leo coin or blocknet then the majority will simply jump in supporting it.
It all snow balls.. Whether it should or not.

We all have a small little role to play in crypto.
Our collective level of morality is what steers the future of crypto.
What matters is the little things we all do when we are alone and no one is looking.
Each user being just a little scammy'ish and a bit greedy..
Amounts to a larger sum total.
It creates a majority steering the direction into a place destined to collapse.

Endless ICO's.. Pumps & dumps.. Endless new coins etc will not end well.
At least not for us little guys.. After the whales and service operators take our money.

All I ask is people look towards the future..
If you believe in the intended premise of Ethereum for example then so be it.
Offer it your support then.
Just go in eyes wide open and aware of the context of all this shit guys.

See JollyGood?
Not everyone has a problem with my post length.
And the intention was to be interesting / provocative..
It worked.. We got a rare appearance from BitJohn.. Which is always good!
He is like Horus in some ways flexible and honest etc.

I got a pm first saying he posted here and Wow.
Thanks BitJohn.
I could have as usual chose my words more carefully or tried to be a bit more accurate.
But over time you don't care about how you come across to others here.

Shit after reading this I am having some small doubts Vern was the so called "hacker"  
It's tough to be 100% perfectly certain about things.
Perspective is a fickle bitch..

Thanks for the input here BitJohn and sadly many of these NOOB don't realize you were an influential key person in the rise to Cryptsy's success.. BJ was staff way before Horus was guys.
BJ in a way is an early guy that helped get the Altcoin scene going.
It was insulting when I seen Jshock show up after the boom and fail to give him the props he deserves.
It's decent patient / flexible people that made this stuff take off and get popular.
Not overly aggressive ban jockeys with a short fuse.. Jshock banned himself regularly LOL

And I have no ill will towards Jshock either.
There is no pent up anger to unleash on him etc from me..

Lastly I seen screecaps of the Cryptsy admin UI so I do believe they were being jerked around with a false UI.. Showing wrong info etc.

But.. That was not needed.. It was obvious there was problems with or with out the admin panel data.
Some people will always think the staff should have walked earlier..
And some did.. Such as BitJohn.
He said he quit quite a while before this all.
But.. He was on the first pages here helping the OP
So was that in a non official capacity?
Not that important though.. What ever.