Lack of knowledge.

Just gave him negative feedback .. for what it's worth ..

Thanks for the easy link to the profile. Made it easy.

Trying to avoid that as much as possible :\

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Also trying to avoid this as much as possible


Listen guys, I really appreciate the response and your opinions right now. I am trying to avoid banks, lending corps, etc. I will look into and see if there's anything I can do.

If anybody has a good bank "any credit" feel free to post or PM here and I'll give it a stab, but it's just something I really didn't want to mess with :\

Come'on man .. Side bets in another thread!

lol .. I'm just playing around. Anything that keeps this thread active I'm a fan of .. Keeps my hopes alive anyway :\

I understand what you're saying, but there is a lot of fees and everything involved with it. Not to mention the time and stress. And they ship away your title and I think you have to pay extra to get it back.

The 2.5btc interest I'm paying here is looking better for me personally. I'm not saying it's in anyway beneficial to the possible lenders, but that's up to them.

I'm just putting it out there. A "Shot in the dark" if you will.

Thanks for chiming in though -- It's very possible I may do that.

All I'm saying is it' very possible for me to pay this back and make somebody money. That's what my goal of posting is here was:
- Quick and reputable loan
- Make somebody money


For what it's worth I just did a KBB on it .. It's worth 3500.

So to a dealer wholesaled it would be 1500 (still not 2k, but it depend on the dealer) .. a private party much more.


Good question.

I'm asking to borrow 17.5 btc. I'm never going to cash these out .. They are just send to the current guy I'm looking to pay.

NOW for paying back - I would prefer to pay back in BTC. Keep things simple. If you would prefer me paying you back in cash or maybe half cash and half coins .. I'd be open to that as well.

I understand that from the point in time I borrow the coins to when I'm looking to repay COULD double. So I would have to buy them at possibly double the value -- that would indeed suck, but keep in mind I'm planning on paying 5btc per week.

Example (and planned payment dates):
September 27 (tomorrow) - 5btc
October 4 - 5 btc
October 11 - 5 btc
October 18 - 5 btc

Make sense?

And yes, by tomorrow I technically only need 15 btc if I purchase 5 tomorrow.

I'm just the guy asking.

I'm basing the "guarantee" off the extra money I make in a month. So I'm able to use that money towards the loan.

I also did offer the title on my jeep. I'm a little nervous for that, but if somebody can walk me through how to do that. I'd be down.

If there anything better I'm missing. Feel free to put it out there.

I'm going to the lenders here. If there's anything you need to hear or see from me. I'm game.

I clear a little less than 800. So now we are talking 3600 a month.

3600
- 500 bills
- 400 groceries
- 250 gas
- 250 on dinners/entertainment

Ballpark, but you get the idea. Adds up quick between taxes and whatnot



Taxes are a bitch man .. It's not 3500, but it is a little less than 400 a week.


Honestly I have no clue what I need to do to convince the thread I'm not. Geez.

Haha .. I understand what you are saying, but I sent this guy pictures of the GDMP.

So why in gods name would I give a picture of them to somebody.

I get it, it's my fault, I shouldn't have done it, but that's where they are going to say it was my fault.

No no, I apologize for that. It was all GDMP.

Like say, I have the GDMP #'s and I have the pictures, and I have the receipts. So if anybody wants there ... Just ask.


lol what?

Already address it, I told them that I gave the GDMP to somebody to pay. That doesn't fall under the ToC. You pretty much need to have the number stolen from you without ever giving it to somebody.

Unfortunately it does not work like a credit card transaction. You just can't say

"I never got it"

I think I reference this in the other thread, but it's for business.

So somebody is willing to give me a minimum of 5k cash per week if I can convert it into coins. This was our first transaction and I messed up. Ugh. So I just need to not do this again. Make sense?



I already spilled the beans with them. As in, I told them I used it to pay somebody. They only refund if you say you never gave it to anybody. It's recorded as well .. blah blah blah .. I'm not getting it back.

I just want that guy to get caught .. Yup. That's what I want.

I sent him 2k GDMP's (500*4). I don't believe there's any TxID's that you speak of.

I'm more than willing to GIVE YOU the moneypak Id's, but I don't think it would be best to post them in a public forum.

I can also supply you with the pictures and receipts of the moneypaks. Once again, I don't want to post this in a public forum, but I'm more than willing to send this to a select group of people.

It's something I'm considering now. Never thought I would have to get one. It's honestly a bit of fear between the paperwork, fees, and lien that its stressful. Just something I would rather not do.

I saw reaching out here as a good option. Figured I could give a good outlet for somebody to make money and possibly a consistant flow of btc.

I mean, I guess that's what I'm asking -- Is there any legal way you can get me to pay. If I have to sign paperwork or something. I'm more than down to do that

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I get it, it sounds weird .. there a bank that offers money. And I'm not going to it. Everytime you open up a loan it does a lot.

This was not only a thread asking for a loan, but also:
- Looking for a lending that could give a stressfree loan looking to make 3.5 btc
- Looking for somebody that was looking to convert at least 5k into cash per week

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Whoa whoa whoa .. Lets not go start throwin' out the 'S-Word'. Feelings get hurt that way.

But seriously, I'm not, I do realize I'm asking for a considerable chunk of btc. I understand that, I get it, but I'm also offering an opportunity to get somebody money. 3.5btc in a month and hopefully 5k (converted to btc) per week

I offered the bank deposit because I posted it at night. So when I woke up in the morning I would have somebody interested. So in theory I could roll up to the bank before work and make the deposit.

Like I said, I'll talk to somebody on the phone if it would build my rep. I'll send personal information to the right person. And connect with them on  my social networks.

Fact is, I don't have the money, I just don't. That's why I'm looking for a loan. So the answers are going to be semi-templated for everything such as why don't I

"Go to the bank for a loan"
"Go for a cash advance"
"Go for a title loan"
"Ask a friend"

Dealing with all this involves: time, paperwork, and stress. I was looking for a different avenue here. I was. I get it if you don't want to invest, but please don't call me a scammer without some cold hard facts -- I'm looking to reach out and talk to somebody 1-on-1. I'm doing everything I can here.

It's very possible I might do this, but doesn't this mean they would own the car?



Not sure if you are saying 60k is a little or a lot? Or just taking shots ..


No problem, I understand, thank you for your time.



This could very well happen, but in the next year I plan on opening a mortage. So I would really like to NOT mess with my credit rating in that regard.


Sorry you feel that way :\


Ahhh ... man I gotcha. I'm gettin tore up in this piece :\


Pretty sure you are referring to a title loan .. Dude, those interest rate are killer. NOt saying it won't come to that for me .. but they are KILLER! Not to mention there's hidden fees I'm sure that I don't want to mess with :\


No clue what that is -- but if it's a title loan I REALLY do not want to mess with that :\

Listen guys, like I said, I'm not a scammer. I will talk to anybody on the phone. Connect with you on my social networks where I am very active. Give you my ID with my home address on it. I really don't have anything to hide.

It's very possible I might do this, but doesn't this mean they would own the car?



Not sure if you are saying 60k is a little or a lot? Or just taking shots ..


No problem, I understand, thank you for your time.



This could very well happen, but in the next year I plan on opening a mortage. So I would really like to NOT mess with my credit rating in that regard.


Sorry you feel that way :\


Listen guys, like I said, I'm not a scammer. I will talk to anybody on the phone. Connect with you on my social networks where I am very active. Give you my ID with my home address on it. I really don't have anything to hide.

I actually ended up getting 10 btc from coinbase from a friend. Then I ended up buying 7 btc from episking.

So I needed 34.5 actually (34.5-10-7=17.5). I'm just asking for the rest.

So jealous of you right now. Wish I woulda been smarter and took that route.

Sucks that I got scammed  because I was working and was rushed. There probably some unemployed dude blowing my 2k on hookers and blow right now.

Alright, here goes. I read all the terms and what not, but I admit I'm a tad uncomfortable giving away any of my person information on a public forum.

With that said, I have no issues giving it to somebody via PM, phone, or Google Hangout.

Here's my sob story (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300488.0) - I n00bed it up and sent a guy 2k worth of bitcoins. He played me so freakin bad and I feel like an a-hole.

What timeframe are we looking at to be paid back?
One month, that's all I need it for. I just need to get settle down and back in the swing of things. I'll pay back 5btc a week. It's very possible I can get this paid back sooner if I take up another job or overtime.

What do you do for work - Can you pay this back?
Paying back is no issue. I work as in IT Director and make around 60k/yr. I have around $500 in bill each month. So I usually have $1000 in "spending money".

Do you own anything else or collateral?
I have a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee that is fully paid off. If for some ungodly known reason I can't pay 20btc in a month

What else didn't you say in the forum?
I made a deal with a friend that has a lot of btc coming in. Like around 5k per week. He wants me to exchange for btc. Sooo ... this was my first deal. I messed it up. Now if I can't get it paid back he'll probably freak out and god knows what, but worst of all I'm not going to work with him anymore.

If I loan to you - Will you convert the cash to coins through me?
Sure I don't see why not. I was already promised 8k Friday (yes tomorrow). So I can get you 8k cash if you are in the area.

Honestly, I know there will be A LOT more questions and flaming. I have no issues connecting via phone if needed, but the fact is that I'm looking for the loan so I can continuously keep up with this bitcoin business.

I'm an honest guy. A good guy. And I just want this work. - So please stake me if you are looking out for the "good guys" or you just want to make some money.

I'm offering around 14% interest that I can GUARANTEE you'll get paid back. Plus I can offer a good source of cash flow (bitcoins to cash) if you are looking to go that route yourself.

Thanks for looking - Please PM me anytime day or night. Thanks.

Yeah, it was GDMP's.

He initially asked me to e-mail him at selecthyip@gmail.com because he's not on bitcointalk alot.

Once I e-mailed him he sent me a google hangout request. So we chatted on there.

Then he asked me to send the photos of the GDMP's scratched off. He said he didn't need the reciepts, but the actually photos of the GDMP's. I thought I would be safe because of this.

Once I gave him the GDMP's he said he would have to call and verify everything is OK with them. Got back to me and said they were backed up and he would have to call back in an hour. I was busy at work and didn't follow up til 3-4 hours later. He was being very weird and I decided to check the GDMP's .. all already had a $0 balance. Even after I brought that up and was sure I was scammed he was still talking to me (what a freakin scum) and so I called GDMP and they pretty much said I was f**ked.

Finally he said, bitcoins are "sent". Then logged off and never logged in again. Obviously the coins weren't there. Name he went under was Ryan Cruck.

As I already mentioned I already admitted to GDMP that I was trying to buy goods with the moneypak. So I'm not going to get the money back. As depressed (and broke) as I am. All I really care about right now is him getting caught.

I was dumb. Was in a rush.