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901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 10, 2023, 02:39:38 PM
Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

The gambler who had more experience in gambling,whether wife or husband should play the game and the less experience can quit the game to make the results.Because if the both family members involved to the gambling,then they will face the financial problem.If one had do the gambling loss and other make profit, this leads neither loss and nor profit.The experience gambler made the profit and the other quit the game means,they take some money into their pocket.If both husband and wife can make money in gambling,they can do gambling on their own knowledge.Winning only the reason in the gambling,the family also need of money in gambling.
Quite interest you are the first person that have given an idea different from what all other members have raised I don't know for sure  if both spouse will agree to quit, however when the cue is raised about  the best and experienced should continue while the one with lesser experience and with much losses should be the one to drop, rationally that will make sense to both spouse to amicably agree.

Gambling can be so enticing and addictive so there has to be a strong defensive reasons why you have to tell a person to quit it, otherwise there might be a matter of contention for both parties involved. Also, it shouldn't be based on gender too because at this current era gambling is no gender based activity.
902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Who should quit, and why? on: December 10, 2023, 11:55:58 AM
Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe you can win on sports betting by analyzing a betting lines only? on: December 10, 2023, 10:40:33 AM
It therefore means data analysis isn't 100%  sure but can serve as a lead way to making the correct bet options in your bet predictions while using your own intellect too in decoding what from what could be a likelihood away from what is not, and in addition to luck.
Data analysis cannot be 100% accurate, but it can help people doing the analysis find the right team to bet on. They may need to learn more so they can improve their analytical skills and be even better. For this reason, those who frequently bet on sports must have good analytical skills so they can get accurate information, even if it could be more accurate because it will depend on the match. At least they can choose a team that has greater potential to win than the opposing team. By using correct analysis, they will get more information, especially if they can find sources that can provide more accurate information.
The importance of data analysis in sports betting can't be over emphasized despite how much bookmakers attempt to influence and mislead us in the information we gathering. Like you said it depends on the gambler in finding the right team, for instance in the EPL we know those teams that are in great form and consistent performance this season.

And with that knowledge we can analyze what can possibly be the results of the game depending on which team they are playing against and the current form of their opponent and their weak loopholes and many others. When informations are gathered it becomes less confusing on what options the gambler should go for in the game.
904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe you can win on sports betting by analyzing a betting lines only? on: December 09, 2023, 10:58:06 PM


I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?
Gambling is a psychological battle which only the most intelligent that is many times fast ahead of you will always win . True, by good analytical skills you can make a win especially with sports bets but that being said, bookmakers have taken an advantage of the analytical and history of the game to play smart ahead of the gambler by deceiving us with data's they only want  us to see and believe.

It therefore means data analysis isn't 100%  sure but can serve as a lead way to making the correct bet options in your bet predictions while using your own intellect too in decoding what from what could be a likelihood away from what is not, and in addition to luck.
905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 09, 2023, 03:46:19 PM
The first match of the day will be between Crystal Palace and Liverpool. Liverpool are second in the league behind Arsenal. And if they win this game they will be the league leaders, one game more than Arsenal. Crystal Palace are winless in their last 4 league games. On the other hand, Liverpool are unbeaten in their last 7 league games. Liverpool are in better form than their opponents. I think Liverpool will win this match. I think they will have a comfortable win today.
The Liverpool match against Crystal Palace is still going, the match is still goalless, and they are already in the second half. From my observation of the match, I can't say Liverpool will win the match because Crystal Palace has not beeing given them any chance to make a good move to their net. Liverpool is the team with ball possession but  not short goal on target, and Crystal Palace has got one short on target, so what I think will happen in the game is a draw, or if Liverpool is lucky, they can probably win, but I can't see they will win with what they are playing.


Edit: Liverpool score a brilliant goal through Mohammad Salah, and we have a red card for the Ayew now in remaining 12 minutes we will have Crystal Palace play with 10 men and this is good chance for the full three points and leading the league table.
Incidentally it was another disappointing match for the Crystal palace side playing with a 10 man team due to a red card to one of their own, Ayew. Great player Mo. Salah with his assist and the goal in that game that gave his team the winning, now positioning Liverpool at the top of the EPL table with 1 point ahead of Arsenal who are now in second position. And just maybe if Arsenal could get a win against Aston villa tonight they be back at the top in no time with 2 points ahead.

Mo. Salah this season has been exceptional having scored 14 goals and 8 assists in his 22 appearance this season, currently with a total of 150 EPL goals and most likely to be listed in the all time list just behind Germaine Daffoe with a record of 162 goals.
906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 09, 2023, 12:28:54 PM
The first match of the day will be between Crystal Palace and Liverpool. Liverpool are second in the league behind Arsenal. And if they win this game they will be the league leaders, one game more than Arsenal. Crystal Palace are winless in their last 4 league games. On the other hand, Liverpool are unbeaten in their last 7 league games. Liverpool are in better form than their opponents. I think Liverpool will win this match. I think they will have a comfortable win today.
In the EPL we have watched many early kick-off games usually ending in a draw result after full time, based on that with my instinct I don't think Liverpool will be winning today's game of which they probably may not lose either.  Just as we saw in the mid week in the game between Aston Villa vs Manchester City many of us didn't expect it that Villa would be so solid on Manchester City, winning that game with a 1:0 result possessively. Who knows! Just maybe, it could be a likelihood for Liverpool today against crystal palace, a team we picture as a weak team this season due to their performance.

As for the game between Arsenal and Aston villa this evening  I don't know who's going to have all three points in the bag but by form Arsenal are a far better side than Villa whoni see in that too for table as just position holders to qualify for the European competition's next season unlike Arsenal that are bend on aiming for nothing but the EPL title.
907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you feeling FOMO like I am? on: December 09, 2023, 11:56:37 AM
First is excitement, I was and still excited, but somehow, I have this feeling of fomo running through me, I feel like I have not enough bitcoin and I am highly tempted to buy even more now Grin, this was the same amount of bitcoin I was very comfortable with during the bear seasoning.

Anyone else feeling same way?
Op that's the "how I wish" syndrome running through your head.

How I wish I had bought much more than I did!

How I wish this... How I wish that...

Innately as humans we are not satisfied with what amount of a thing we own, we can only wish we had more, but have you asked yourself what happens to those that have just a piece/little of what you have, it about those that don't even own it BTC at all?

Maybe with this food for thought we can always appreciate the amount of bitcoin we have been able to accumulate and hodl, and them work out ways to continue accumulating more because that amount bitcoin you think you haven't accumulated well enough is someone's else's dream of reaching at as a bitcoin owner.

So far so good, let enjoy the bullrun and the profits the follows, no FOMO no worries. Grin
908  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Be careful during the halving season on: December 08, 2023, 10:20:44 PM
First, as an internet you always come across scammers it is inevitable and it gets worsen when you become a crypto user which is why at all time we have to be vigilant and to treat everyone we don't know as a suspect before anything else. When you create that attitude of treating people as suspect you will be careful on how you deal with them and whatever link you see online. And in the forum ignore all PM's from users you don't telling you about any juicy returns project, you will only end up being scammed.

The bullrun period is the period scammers for the most part scavenge for gullible newbies with sugar coated approaches and promises about quick doubling of their crypto in a professional way, by using the excuse of them arriving at bitcoin late and for them to catch up the train quick at the pace of others they have to render certain personal informations to them (the scammers) to help them in doing the needed mechanics.

 Newbies be aware that all of these!.
909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for newbies on: December 08, 2023, 02:09:38 PM
Hello everyone, as you can see I'm new here, I'm looking for recommendations for a game to bet some money that I don't mind losing, I would like recommendations and if possible a recommendation for somewhere that teaches how to play. Thank you very much. Grin
Op you are at the moment promoting a gambling site which you can make use of, it's expected you make use of what you promote before others, right? Anyway, you can check my signature just below this comment and with just a click you  will be directed to a world of variety of games for your gambling pleasure and am sure you gonna love it.

As a newbie in gamble dont be carried away by the euphoria and emotions that tags along with gambling, and since you're to use money you don't mind losing I assume you won't be having issues with loss chasing as it's the mother of gambling addiction and lack of self discipline/control.

Welcome onboard and enjoy your time in the gambling world by playing responsibly.
910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 08, 2023, 01:27:17 PM
Well, finally Manchester United scored the second goal and won the match, McTominay deserves to be man of the match today after scoring 2 goals. On Chelsea side, this defeat will confirm Chelsea status as an unstable team where in each of the last 5 matches they will experience a win, draw and loss but yeah overall it's not bad because the one who beat them was another strong team starting with Newcastle and Manchester United today.
I've never seen such an spectacular and remarkable performance from Manchester United, the way the players and supports echoed chants of victory, it was really out of tract for the Blues and their supporters. They chilled down and couldn't belive their very eyes the type of danger that have befallen them. Erik Ten Hag have been praised by the wonderful display tonight at Old Trafford and that's the exact way they want to see Manchester United perform, because that will elevate them in all round performance. McTominay should be crowned MOTM after netting a brace against Chelsea.

I am just going to say this and I am sure I am going to get a lot of hate for this. But Manchester United was able to beat Chelsea because Chelsea is not performing well at all currently. The performance of Chelsea is pretty bad. Even weaker opponents are able to win against Chelsea.  So this had to be a three-point for Manchester United. And by the looks of it, I actually thought that Manchester United might walk away with only one point from this match. But luckily they kept pushing and got the three points in this match.  Let’s see if they can actually continue performing well.
Before Manchester United succeeded in defeating in two of their different games they met with Tottenham and Manchester City they performed very well expecially with the game they had with Tottenham.  This games they had with Tottenham and Manchester City gave many people the impression that Manchester United won't be able to defeat Chelsea because of how Manchester have been struggling for sometime this season,  but Manchester ended with a victory which was a surprise.  With this lose from Chelsea it seems Chelsea has gone back to bad performance.
Chelsea has so much problems to combat with and take care of  right from strikers, midfielders and defenders are all without creativity. As in Chelsea had so many opportunities to score many goals in that game but they wasted all the chances like an amateur team. Enough with the experiment's by coach  Pochino it's part of what is putting the players in an inconsistent position as they keep playing out from one different wing to another not allowing players master a constant wing and position. Up till now Chelsea has no first XI team.
This problem of not having a specific first eleven was same issue that Mourinho and ole had in Manchester united and that's same issue Chelsea is facing, rotating of your squad every week or every game just reduces the mentality of the players to actually adapt to one position and that's why most player fail to meet the expectations the coach have on them to actually play that position.

Chelsea and Manchester united yesterday all performed very poorly if you ask me because towards the early and the mid section of the second half it was totally poor performance from the both teams as the pass accuracy too was a shame.
Hey Mr.suevie you were really observant in that game both teams were just running with the ball from pillar to post, as in there were no complete passes, none of the team both Chelsea and Manchester united could be said of possessing the midfield area it was an obvious porosity more like two amateur teams playing because they were mainly running end to end with the ball.

As for Chelsea the faster the coach make decision about his first eleven team the better so that the boys can expect and be sure about their positions and worked hard towards improving on it, and swinging here and there it makes no sense. I don't know if you observed how Caceido and Enzo Fernandez were no where to be found in that game. Should Chelsea keep playing this way they might find themselves fighting with relegation again instead of a place for the European competition's next season.
911  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2023, 01:13:43 PM

when the doom they all had been waiting for fails to materialize but instead they see bitcoin soaring higher breaking range beyond their imagination, next they do is to coin excuses,"oh he just got lucky, blablabla".

Last time I checked many pessimists spreading FUD about bitcoin years ago are now hiding their faces, some have got no choice but to swallow their pride and joined the BTC camp to financial freedom while others are still scouting for excuses to massage their ego.

One thing I know for sure man, it isn't luck that got us this far, it's we doing what they feared and failed to do. Grin
912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 07, 2023, 04:44:23 PM
Well, finally Manchester United scored the second goal and won the match, McTominay deserves to be man of the match today after scoring 2 goals. On Chelsea side, this defeat will confirm Chelsea status as an unstable team where in each of the last 5 matches they will experience a win, draw and loss but yeah overall it's not bad because the one who beat them was another strong team starting with Newcastle and Manchester United today.
I've never seen such an spectacular and remarkable performance from Manchester United, the way the players and supports echoed chants of victory, it was really out of tract for the Blues and their supporters. They chilled down and couldn't belive their very eyes the type of danger that have befallen them. Erik Ten Hag have been praised by the wonderful display tonight at Old Trafford and that's the exact way they want to see Manchester United perform, because that will elevate them in all round performance. McTominay should be crowned MOTM after netting a brace against Chelsea.

I am just going to say this and I am sure I am going to get a lot of hate for this. But Manchester United was able to beat Chelsea because Chelsea is not performing well at all currently. The performance of Chelsea is pretty bad. Even weaker opponents are able to win against Chelsea.  So this had to be a three-point for Manchester United. And by the looks of it, I actually thought that Manchester United might walk away with only one point from this match. But luckily they kept pushing and got the three points in this match.  Let’s see if they can actually continue performing well.
Before Manchester United succeeded in defeating in two of their different games they met with Tottenham and Manchester City they performed very well expecially with the game they had with Tottenham.  This games they had with Tottenham and Manchester City gave many people the impression that Manchester United won't be able to defeat Chelsea because of how Manchester have been struggling for sometime this season,  but Manchester ended with a victory which was a surprise.  With this lose from Chelsea it seems Chelsea has gone back to bad performance.
Chelsea has so much problems to combat with and take care of  right from strikers, midfielders and defenders are all without creativity. As in Chelsea had so many opportunities to score many goals in that game but they wasted all the chances like an amateur team. Enough with the experiment's by coach  Pochino it's part of what is putting the players in an inconsistent position as they keep playing out from one different wing to another not allowing players master a constant wing and position. Up till now Chelsea has no first XI team.
913  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: December 07, 2023, 04:12:47 PM
Does any of feel behavioral change in you based on the win/loss in gambling. Myself had experienced it, and personally I used to be happy and I used to be polite with my family members and kid whenever I am on profit. On the day of losing it changes exactly in the opposite way, even for simple things I get much anger. Particularly while giving food to kid patience is must. On winning days I let him take his own time and eat. On the losing days I used to shout at him. I'm addicted, and I want fellow gamblers to make a self analysis at regular interval and be on the safer side.
This is bad if you let it always get the better part of you. Before we go to gamble we have it in mind that it's either we win or we lose so why let the outcome determine your reaction towards family members or anyone at all.

 It's understandable nobody loves losing money and it hurts when we do but allowing it to affect our behavior thereby transferring aggression to people that don't even have a clue of what had happened to you like the kid that's way out of normal and you should learn to get yourself together.

No doubt our emotions are affected by the  outcome of our gambling results but we should quell the negative emotions right there before we move away from the position we stayed to gamble it will really assist us in making others not encounter from us reactions of  what they know nothing about.
914  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: December 07, 2023, 02:34:44 PM
Personal willpower is crucial to resisting gambling. The psychological appeal of gambling must also be considered. We could also promote self-regulation and mindfulness in our culture. Could community support groups or gambling psychology education be helpful? A community that encourages self-awareness and responsible gambling may help us address this issue on a personal and societal level
Personal willpower alone will not stop gambling. You need support from therapists, or support groups as it will help in developing accountability and addressing underlying issues. Will power alone will only give a brief solution to gambling. I know that gambling websites have a portion where write about getting help with gambling addiction. They are very helpful can connect gambling addicts to communities and the help resources they need.

I will have to disagree with you to some extent, not completely. Will power can definitely heal one off gambling addiction, but it all depends on the level the addiction have gotten to, you would agree with me that addiction are of different stages, and for the gambler who have gotten to a very deep level of addiction in gambling, I agree that, will power alone can not bring the gambler out of that addiction, the gambler will have to seek external help, like the one being offered by quitgamble.com.
But for the gambler who is still in their shallow surface of gambling addiction, such gambler can easily quit and come out from such addiction if he or she so want, and apply will power required to stop.
You all in the right in what you have all said. You know, for an addictive gambler to start responding to external supports system he/she must first recognize that what they are doing is wrong and harmful to his/herself and to bear it in mind that whatever measures external bodies are building towards him is for his own good interest.

So first it's the personal will power that count for an addictive gambler before the support from specialist or family and friends come through to compliment it all. It is extremely difficult to give support system to an addictive gambler who sees nothing wrong with his compulsive gambling habit.
915  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is the only currency that has grown the most!! on: December 07, 2023, 02:13:04 PM
Present, there are many altcoins in the crypto market and they have grown a lot. But it has gone down and gone again, but Bitcoin is the only currency that hasn't gone down yet, instead it's going up. I've noticed that Bitcoin has grown the most over the past couple of days, but altcoins haven't grown as much in comparison. Currently, we see Bitcoin market above $44000, I think it will bring $45000 very soon. Will Bitcoin Touch $50,000 By This December?  What do you think about the way the Bitcoin market is currently growing?
As a pioneering cryptocurrency you don't expect it to perform less, therefore in it's leadership position as the leading digital currency bitcoin has been up and doing since it's creation and all other crypto rally around and depends on its growth for that of theirs. The $44k mark is na impressive one and a boomerang of shame to those that were criticizing bitcoin with all sorts of degrading and discouraging articles and discussions on socials when bitcoin price was down to $15k this year. But for those that filtered the noise, didn't sell out of the FUDs instead hodl and kept on accumulating it's now a profiting bullish market for them.

Just this month bitcoin moved from $36k+ to rally around $42k-44k within days so therefore there's a positive propensity that it can go touch $50k by the end of December 2023. The fundamentals has been on the positive side for bitcoin and with the spot ETF approval in focus anything good is possible to happen with bitcoin price right now.
916  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The message remains consistent from January to December on: December 07, 2023, 01:30:44 PM
Bitcoin was purposefully created to give users financial freedom and security from the middle man, but some users after owning bitcoin they go on handing it over to the middle through the behavior of leaving their coins in centralized exchanges. At this level you don't have to feel pity for such people they knew the consequences, not that they are ignorant of previous horrid and frightful experiences of others  who were holding their coins in CEX.

The slogan, " not your keys not your coins" is a motto that rarely any crypto enthusiasts would say they have no knowledge of, how much more someone with coins worth  $15k, when exactly will people learn?.  For the CEX it's their home,  they have cleaned up all traces as simple as that and as an individual you'll have no concrete evidence to prove your allegation making any class action a step in futility.
917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Do You Convince Someone On Something That Will Not Work on: December 07, 2023, 10:44:37 AM
There are people that don't have a strong mental construct to deal with situation of financial joy specially the one that occurred spontaneously with gamble he never expected but out of a first time trial it just happened. Before you know it they get absorbed by the delusion that by increasing their wagering they are going to get a bigger chance of winning big amount.

When we having a conversation with people for the first time or people that it has been long we last saw, we shouldn't introduce gambling in the discussion no matter how interesting the conversation gets, as we don't know what circumstance and situation that person has been facing and probably have been cracking his head to think of something to fetch him money, and now you have brought one up, gambling, and behind you he gave it a test and it was in his favour and you expect him to listen to any advise you have to say to talk him down from continuing.... Hell no.
It would have been better you never chip in the discuss  when you both first met.
918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 06, 2023, 03:49:06 PM
The last time Chelsea won Manchester united at home was two years ago and the margin was quite a good margin (1-3) but ever since Chelsea hasn't been able to win Manchester united bit at home or away it has ended most times in a draw and a few times in favour of Manchester united especially in their premier league games.

This will be the first time Manchester united will be playing against Chelsea in the premier league this season and I don't have an expectation for this game because both teams has been really inconsistent this season and one cannot really ascertain their form at a point I time, in some game they both perform so we'll while in the other they will perform poorly and one will think they may end up loosing but then Manchester united is in a better position considering their points and position on the table, they are aswell playing from home, although they have been beaten at home severally this season so I'm not sure how different it will be with This so I will just keep an open mind to it.
You just hit the nail straight on the head, keeping an open mind in this game is what both club's fans should hold to heart tonight as both teams has been so inconsistent that when you expect them to win a game that's when they lose woefully.

But let me try to be bias here with a few sharp ends about Chelsea this season. From all the clubs they have lost points to it has all been  average teams that could be refer to as underdogs in the premier league but when have been able to pose a strong form on bigger teams either winning them or a draw, and tonight Manchester united isn't an average team but one of the most top four teams in the EPL history, therefore my bias tells me that Chelsea might rise up fiercely to the duel against them as a big team and this game could probably end draw. But that Ben said I still want to maintain an open mind.
919  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: A piece of advise concerning various links flying around on: December 06, 2023, 03:16:01 PM
Op thank you for this piece, to be frank this is a right information at the right period and at the right place. And I'll like to extend my thoughts from where op stopped. For the past days I have been receiving similar links in my WhatsApp from my WhatsApp contacts in respect to the purported #25k that the FGN reported to share among millions of Nigerian households, although from what I heard some persons have received theirs recently even a close friend of mine received his last week.

But that is not the concern, my concern is how these fraudsters and scammers are taking a drastic advantage of the news to create fake sites where people are required to fill in sensitive data about them such as NIN, phone number, email address and password, after which they will ask you to refer the site link to other social groups/platforms as part of the registration eligibility process.

It's quite unfortunate that people still fall for this infantry pattern of scam because they act greedy and also fail to do research about the integrity and genuineness of any link and forms they see online before taking further action on it. All this naw we go direct am to the hunger for the land abi?

Let beware, avoid link and online forms you don't know and sure of.
920  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2023, 01:52:23 PM
When I think back and the whole journey since I’m a bitcoiner …

Many know my story but when my friend showed me BTC and told me to buy/keep/hodl it.
I knew he would explain me everything a long the way.
But at the very beginning he said you just buy BTC and you hodl it everything in between is noise that you just ignore.
I think that’s the best advice for almost everybody.

Life changing, that's for sure!..

I can only count on one hand, the amount of people who listened to me over the years and hodl.

Maybe it is because I am a shit salesman, but I'd gave it my best!
I concur, filtering the noise is one basic psychological strength to hodl for long.

At this epoch as an internet savvy person and,
 you don't own bitcoin still questioning it's a risk,
hey bro, the risk is all damn on that person not owning BTC


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