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December 10, 2023, 10:40:33 AM
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It therefore means data analysis isn't 100%  sure but can serve as a lead way to making the correct bet options in your bet predictions while using your own intellect too in decoding what from what could be a likelihood away from what is not, and in addition to luck.
Data analysis cannot be 100% accurate, but it can help people doing the analysis find the right team to bet on. They may need to learn more so they can improve their analytical skills and be even better. For this reason, those who frequently bet on sports must have good analytical skills so they can get accurate information, even if it could be more accurate because it will depend on the match. At least they can choose a team that has greater potential to win than the opposing team. By using correct analysis, they will get more information, especially if they can find sources that can provide more accurate information.
The importance of data analysis in sports betting can't be over emphasized despite how much bookmakers attempt to influence and mislead us in the information we gathering. Like you said it depends on the gambler in finding the right team, for instance in the EPL we know those teams that are in great form and consistent performance this season.

And with that knowledge we can analyze what can possibly be the results of the game depending on which team they are playing against and the current form of their opponent and their weak loopholes and many others. When informations are gathered it becomes less confusing on what options the gambler should go for in the game.
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December 10, 2023, 10:58:03 AM
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They are definitely good analyzers when it comes to sports because they have to. If they want somehow a "fair" but profitable business, it should be done properly based on the stats that were made from previous matches. They probably have the tools to do that.

I think you can win just by betting lines but it would be hard. Luck plays a role IMO as well.

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December 10, 2023, 12:50:51 PM
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Data analysis helps, if you don't use them how will you know want to place bet on? It helps a lot in decisions making and it also increases the chance of your luck, but all in all, you have to be still lucky to win.

My answer is yes and a no, the yes is about how important data analysis is if you are betting on sports games, and my No is saying that even after every data analyses you can still lose your money in the end of the match.

The best bet is to never risk more than you are willing to lose, if you think about losing the money, which is possible, always make sure you won't get affected if that dream of losing money finally comes true, it always come true faster than winning, gamble responsibly.

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December 10, 2023, 01:44:34 PM
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You can win of course, the only question here is that if you have the luck to win without even analyzing the data.

The probability to win in sports betting are high compare to other games because you have the chance to analyze here and look for the previous data especially the previous games and the team history as well, but if you choose not to do this then expect to increase your chance to lose, and that can make gambling more risky.

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December 10, 2023, 02:02:28 PM
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In my own opinion that gambling is all about luck whether it is sports betting and whatever others games all kind of gambling at the end of the day depend on luck. But in sports batting I believe that if a person good at analysing on sports for he gamble then it can be possible that is winning probability is more rather than those gambler who didn't know good analysis. So I believe that a gambler if do a good analysis then his winning probability will be more higher.
Regarding betting issues in gambling, most games do not have clear data and that makes it impossible for gamblers to apply their analytical skills.
more exactly, they don't have any basis for analysis and gamblers just wander around making spiritual choices while casinos are the ones with data and analysis of how gamblers are choosing. But sports is not where the casino can interfere too much, the chart of strong and weak, it is very intuitive, what the casino does is just give reasonable betting odds, the parameters of sports gambling always show a higher winning angle for the gambler

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December 10, 2023, 02:25:53 PM
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The lines represent bookmakers' quotes, that is, they make their own forecasts for the event, but it would be wrong to place bets only on the basis of these quotes. Bookmakers determine the favorite and expect certain outcomes, but they are often wrong when sensations occur, and if it were so easy to bet and win just based on the bookmakers' lines, then bettors could easily win, but this does not happen.

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December 10, 2023, 02:52:11 PM
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When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

Last year, you could look at the lower line and pick the range of 1.2 and 1.3 odds from any Basketball, either from the NCAA or NBA and you will win without even understanding anything from the League or the match because the algorithm works perfectly but I can count how many times I won Basketball this year, it doesn't seem to work again but you know something about sports betting, as long as the options are not straight options like straight win or draw from football matches, no matter how they twist the chances of winning, sometimes the scope of the match beats how the bookmakers think.

Last week, I made some random selections of over 1.5 goals from the Premier League features and some from other local leagues, the Premier League that I expected went smoothly, I had them over 1.5, now the local leagues I was afraid to give me over 1.5 were even printing over 4.5 and most of the goals from the previous matches were not consistent and weren't up to 3 but I was surprised to see that and I imagine if I have selected over 4.5 goals, my odd would have been bigger but the ticket was won and I was happy about my selections. Sometimes, the result just beats your expectations and that of the bookmakers and that's why they called it betting.

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December 10, 2023, 03:47:35 PM
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The lines represent bookmakers' quotes, that is, they make their own forecasts for the event, but it would be wrong to place bets only on the basis of these quotes. Bookmakers determine the favorite and expect certain outcomes, but they are often wrong when sensations occur, and if it were so easy to bet and win just based on the bookmakers' lines, then bettors could easily win, but this does not happen.

It should be taken into account that bookmakers can specifically indicate false quotes to deceive too gullible players, so you can not overly trust only one statistic. You need to trust more and your own intuition - without it is impossible to participate in gambling
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December 10, 2023, 04:11:39 PM
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When I say 'line,' I am referring to the spreads or handicap of a certain team in the game. Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.

I got this belief now that bookmakers are already knowledgeable about these aspects, and they take them into consideration when establishing a betting line for a specific game.

How about you? Do you share the same perspective or not?

I don't have a friend who is a bookie so I'm not really sure about this perspective (that bookies have very strong analytical skills and already know which team will win), I also really like betting on sports and have tried analyzing a match long before the match starts, but the final result I don't always get is a win, I also get a lot of losses. Some people also think that the bookie's chances of winning are much greater than the bettor's, well I don't think so either.
 

I think it is true as OP said that bookies have stronger analytical skills to determine odds and we as bettors can only use our ability to analyze whose abilities are no better than bookies. Many gamblers experience losses in sports betting even though they have analyzed it, including you. who often experience defeat, if the bookie does not have the ability to analyze the bookie will certainly experience a lot of losses, they place odds, not just any odds, but odds that they think are right, we as bettors cannot beat the bookie, even though the chance of winning in sports betting is always there, we cannot beat bookie significantly.



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December 10, 2023, 04:20:34 PM
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You're right that they do analyze it, but also other gamblers do that. Let's say you have 10 people betting on a boxing match and 8 of them try to do some work and check what pros like coaches, commentators and other boxers say about the fight and who according to them is favoured. Most of them will bet on the one that's more likely to win, up until there's huge money to be won if you bet against him, in which case people will start to balance it out, betting against the favored fighter. In the end, you'll clearly see the favored player and also be unable to make too much by betting against him.
Most of the time you can simply choose if you want to swim with or against the current depending on how you feel about the match and you don't have to analyze anything. 

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December 10, 2023, 04:50:15 PM
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You're right that they do analyze it, but also other gamblers do that. Let's say you have 10 people betting on a boxing match and 8 of them try to do some work and check what pros like coaches, commentators and other boxers say about the fight and who according to them is favoured. Most of them will bet on the one that's more likely to win, up until there's huge money to be won if you bet against him, in which case people will start to balance it out, betting against the favored fighter. In the end, you'll clearly see the favored player and also be unable to make too much by betting against him.
Most of the time you can simply choose if you want to swim with or against the current depending on how you feel about the match and you don't have to analyze anything. 

if we are talking about the favorite fighter, the bettors will more likely to bet on them and the risk taker will choose the winning by method or which round the fight ends to which is where they will analyze the most.

some of us don't bother analyzing when there is a huge gap between fighters' skills where the underdog is pretty much unknown and 90% chance he could just fall to the ground with a jab.









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December 10, 2023, 05:26:15 PM
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Through my years of experience, I have noticed that putting effort into analyzing the team's statistics and other factors, such as news and rumors, does not significantly affect my chances of winning.
. basically my passion in watching football has depreciated due to some personal reasons but yet I still love gambling on the sport bets such as one of the footballs.
So I have really lost most of the teams capacities and their formation lines in the games. So to make an reliable bet giving hopes that I know what I am doing during my prediction, I goes through researches in the magazines so to understand the teams historical performance and then I could be inspired with some analogical analysis to make my prediction.
Gambling is a game of luck no matter how the outputs of being an experience or a professional may be diluted with the privileges to win in the gamble.
So yeah. Sometimes times it fails me to loose and sometimes it gains me to win.

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December 11, 2023, 01:38:35 AM
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Most of us probably analyze the betting lines but we cannot deny that most of us also are losers when it comes to sports betting.

Just make it simple, since most are losers, that means they aren't doing the right thing, and most of the time the reason why they losses is due to lack of focus and discipline. For example, a gambler could win 7 out of 10 bets, that's 70% win rate, right? However, if some bettor doesn't have the discipline, he'll like double when he losses, what if he won the first 7 and losses the 3 but since he doubled or chase his losses, he ends up losing everything.

That's 70% win rate and still lose, that's insane, right?

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December 11, 2023, 01:48:08 AM
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It helps but still just like any analysis, it does not give you guarantee to win at all. It is actually hard to bet with sportsbetting. Like I mean that you can easily bet because you either pick 1 or 2 but determining the winner is tricky because you do not hold the game. Your money's destiny depends on the players and teams that you are betting. For some reasons that you have dealt with some analysis and it didn't resulted to a good one. You are not a bad analyzer but it is that in sportsbetting is hard to win because even games that has high or low odds, they are still unpredictable to be honest.
True. It's not a guarantee.
Sports betting is not like casino games which large part depends on luck. In sports betting, it is combined luck and analysis and I think most sports bettors know that fact.
If one gambler aims for player props he will understand the difficult part of it. There you cannot just rely upon the odds given by the sports bookies, you must know if a player's stats do hit the amount that is being given in the betting line. Most of the time their average stats give out 1.20 - 1.30 only and there's no assurance with that yet. Other sports bettors like to reduce that so there's a higher guarantee to win. Let's say a player can make 10 points per game based on his stats, they will reduce that to 9 or 8 with only a 1.10 - 1.15 win. Then, the plan is to combine it with another player with the same strategy of reducing the stats. A same-game parlay can sometimes be profitable if we ain't that greedy but for those who like winning big, they will make it longer or take the higher risk by adding more stats for higher odds.
It will depend on how a gambler likes it or if he is a risk taker or loves to stay in the safest route.

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December 11, 2023, 02:58:37 AM
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Well, yes, I don't think anyone didn't analyse who would win. Like what we are doing, if we see the match, we can distinguish who has the advantage based on how familiar we are with the team. For example, in the NBA, if you are a fan of the NBA, you mostly know the teams—the strong ones and the weak ones—so you know if there's a match that will have a higher chance of winning. So analysis is very important in sports betting if you want to have higher chances of winning, but for some others who don't rely on analysis or don't want to analyse because they don't have time and rely only on intuition, they are most likely to have a higher rate of losses. So analysis is very important in gambling. Even if you are more reliant on luck and your knowledge, you still need to analyse before deciding whether to bet.

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That is true, I believe bookmakers are watchful about the likely outcomes of matches and what analysis cum options gamblers could go for.

Have we wondered why in some football games, some betting options are not available to be staked in that match? I'm beginning to reason that out too myself, probably they understand it could be a likely easy outcome and so they rather make it unavailable. Probably so, and gamblers have no option than go for other options without choice. This could be likely so, that bookmakers are really at work to read the minds of gamblers on likely outcomes of predictions.
Of course, bookies definitely have good analytical skills to provide choice options for us gamblers. In sports betting, there are many types of options that we will bet on, starting from single bets, double chance, multi bets, special bets, score predictions and so on. each has a different chance of winning so that it makes the gamblers confused about placing their bets so that the chances of the gamblers winning are smaller and the profit is based on what they choose, it is difficult to beat the bookie because they have more accurate analytical skills. I even thought that betting Sports have been arranged in such a way as to frustrate gamblers who bet on teams that they choose a lot because sometimes when I make a multi bet which I think is correct there is always a team that makes a blunder and thwarts my bet Sad

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December 11, 2023, 03:44:45 AM
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Well, yes, I don't think anyone didn't analyse who would win. Like what we are doing, if we see the match, we can distinguish who has the advantage based on how familiar we are with the team. For example, in the NBA, if you are a fan of the NBA, you mostly know the teams—the strong ones and the weak ones—so you know if there's a match that will have a higher chance of winning. So analysis is very important in sports betting if you want to have higher chances of winning, but for some others who don't rely on analysis or don't want to analyse because they don't have time and rely only on intuition, they are most likely to have a higher rate of losses. So analysis is very important in gambling. Even if you are more reliant on luck and your knowledge, you still need to analyse before deciding whether to bet.

Yes, analysis is important, but sometimes the match results still don't match our analysis. especially if you only look at the more popular teams and also the chances of winning without considering the squad which might be left behind by several main players due to injury or card accumulation.
Of course, you have seen teams whose quality of play and standings are far below and when they face a better team they can hold a draw or even win. things like that are beyond the predictions and analysis that we do. but that often happens in football betting.



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December 11, 2023, 04:11:43 AM
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Yes, analysis is important, but sometimes the match results still don't match our analysis. especially if you only look at the more popular teams and also the chances of winning without considering the squad which might be left behind by several main players due to injury or card accumulation.
Of course, you have seen teams whose quality of play and standings are far below and when they face a better team they can hold a draw or even win. things like that are beyond the predictions and analysis that we do. but that often happens in football betting.

Sometimes too apart from the injury on the bench, the injury that may come during play can also spoil the already good plan we have on the game. For example if a very good player like top striker that team depends on that we also hope on in our analysis for him to score some goals is substituted for the reason of injury, that can be devastated to any team. A top player many times is not compared to a bench warmer or some one not regular. The point therefore is the quality of play can be reduced due to injury that can be sustained at the time of the match.
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December 11, 2023, 05:00:38 AM
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In a way, you can do that, but that means you will blindly trust what was served in front of you and not do anything on your end to analyze who you'll be betting with. Though the lines offered by bookies really are the odds of a team to win as observed by other bookies, there are still some minor details that can really help you make a decision on who to bet. Injuries sometimes are not taken into account last minute by bookies, and the only way to know that is to do a little bit of research before locking in your bets. That can make or break a team's game, and you wouldn't know that info based on odds alone.
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That is true, I believe bookmakers are watchful about the likely outcomes of matches and what analysis cum options gamblers could go for.

Have we wondered why in some football games, some betting options are not available to be staked in that match? I'm beginning to reason that out too myself, probably they understand it could be a likely easy outcome and so they rather make it unavailable. Probably so, and gamblers have no option than go for other options without choice. This could be likely so, that bookmakers are really at work to read the minds of gamblers on likely outcomes of predictions.
Of course, bookies definitely have good analytical skills to provide choice options for us gamblers. In sports betting, there are many types of options that we will bet on, starting from single bets, double chance, multi bets, special bets, score predictions and so on. each has a different chance of winning so that it makes the gamblers confused about placing their bets so that the chances of the gamblers winning are smaller and the profit is based on what they choose, it is difficult to beat the bookie because they have more accurate analytical skills. I even thought that betting Sports have been arranged in such a way as to frustrate gamblers who bet on teams that they choose a lot because sometimes when I make a multi bet which I think is correct there is always a team that makes a blunder and thwarts my bet Sad
Yes, gamblers face stacked odds. We wager on sports with hope and strategy, but the bookies' powerful analytics give them the edge. They offer single, multi, and special bets. The dangers and rewards of each approach vary. We walk cautiously but often reach a crossroads.

Brief story: I knew a gambler who thought he had solved the code, like many of us. He carefully chose his multi-bet. One team mistake doomed his castle of cards. Bookies use their analytical skills to manipulate the odds.

This illustrates a key healthy gambling lesson: accepting the risks. Play responsibly, not only to defeat the bookie. The house usually wins this high-stakes game.

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